OverDrive - Rosenthal on Fields' injury impact, Rodgers' steering the Steelers and the Cowboys' tumultuous ride

Episode Date: July 25, 2025

NFL Daily Podcast Host Gregg Rosenthal joined OverDrive to discuss the headlines from the start of training camp, Justin Fields' injury for the Jets, the Cowboys' contract saga, Aaron Rodgers' stature with the Steelers, his top players in the quarter century, Patrick Mahomes' journey with the Chiefs and more.

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So do you track the stats of quarterbacks early in camp? Like at what point do you start actually caring about whether or not there's completions being made maybe not that's uh... you'll get you'll get admonished by all knowers like jj y on twitter today was saying everyone's an idiot who looks at the fact you gotta wait a little bit but i do think you can pick up some things in the first week but can't certainly like the rotation

who's playing with the starters like how certain players look like that yes and listen we were waiting for the nfl for a long time finally arrived in i guess today justin fields was carted off the field in in new york but dislocated toe day-to-day will be okay uh... but you know the jets fans are freaking out i'm not sure what they expect in new york though like it

if fields plays if he doesn't play what are your expectations for the Jets? They seem higher for me than they are for almost anyone like I think they could be a competitive team a 500 type of team and yet they're projected in Vegas and I've seen some you know analytical models have them as the worst team in the AFC I think they're really talented defensively. I think the offensive line is a little underrated and I do buy into Aaron Glenn as a head coach and Tanner Engstrom, this guy that he brought from Detroit as the coordinator. And so I have a little optimism.

I probably am higher on Justin Fields than most. I think they could have like a decent run first Offense, but he's immediately hurt and then suddenly think all this thinking I did all offseason. What am I thinking? It's the Jets just something bad will happen Well, you know just like something bad is always happening to the Jets something Very public is usually happening in Dallas Greg and I was I was kind of intrigued by one of your tweets from, I think it was yesterday, where you were talking about if you kind of look away from the drama, the Jerry Jones show as it always is, they have a really fascinating team.

You sort of had them, in your estimation, as a top three NFC feeling, but also a bottom five floor. I mean, explain how you sort of see the Cowboys in that light. Yeah, first of all look I like watching Zach Prescott play football certainly C.D. Lamb and George Pickens is a really intriguing wide receiver group and then you look at their offensive line up front it's a lot of high drafted players some players like Tyler Smith who've also already looked good and so it's a good potentially

young offensive line but a lot of you know question marks about how good they will be and then you look at their pass for us on the edge with Micah Parsons the depth that they have a lot of young players some of them coming off of pretty serious injuries and yet I think overall talent behind Parsons like it could be a really good pass for us. You combine that, to me they could be back to where they were a couple years ago which was a team that's winning 12 games three straight years. It really wouldn't be that surprising but because it's the Cowboys, because there are some I think big variances with that offensive line certainly in the

secondary there's questions like they might not be a great team the Jerry Jones of it all might ruin it all but I'm interested to watch them just from a football perspective. I think they're an interesting team We were jokingly I think talking about Aaron Rodgers and how you know every move is kind of watched by him Especially at this point in the summer, but it is interesting You know the dynamic between him and Mike Tomlin is that one of the more intriguing storylines that you're you're following at this point? Yeah no question his first throw today in 11-11 was intercepted so that seems like a bad omen for this season and everyone's saying the right thing and Mike Tomlin

they wanted Aaron Rodgers then again they wanted Justin Fields before they wanted Aaron Rodgers and they didn't offer him as much money as the Jets did. So he was kind of a fallback plan for what the Steelers were doing. Matthew Stafford was a guy they actually went after first, so he was like the third option ultimately. I just don't see it. The list of quarterbacks that are 42 years old with Rodgers will be at the end of the year that have ever even had a halfway decent season is one name on its time brady

it's literally he's the only quarterback in history that ever been any good at at age forty two and i don't think rogers is shown enough the last couple years when he has played uh... to believe he'll be different uh... i just saw and fando the still is when totals eight-and-a-half would you go over or under? It's so funny because Tomlin's never had a losing season

Man I do and yet I do think I don't know like I never bet against Tomlin And I'm not allowed to literally bet at all But I think when I make my predictions that division is so good At the top that I do think I would go under i would have a man eight when the fact that with greg rosenthal nfl daily podcast and you know that division that the pace cars obviously baltimore and you know you look at the more jackson we

talk so much about the bills up here on this show and josh allen and you know both of them racing towards an mv in the end Allen ends up winning it. Of those two players, Allen Jackson, which player do you believe needs a Super Bowl more? Oh man, I think they're, it's a cop out but I think they're even because they're so similar. I think Lamar maybe takes a little more national heat so he doesn't strike me as a guy who's particularly concerned about it, about legacy, like he's put up those two MVPs and a first team all-pro which he got last year so that's three first team all-pro's he's been doing it a little longer so I hate to do a cop out and not answer

so I will give you Lamar and yet to me they're so similar. They're the exact same position. They're quarterbacking two of the really three most consistent teams in the entire NFL over the last five years. The problem is the number one consistent team is the one that keeps beating them or getting further than them in the AFC playoffs every year. Greg, I know you love ranking players.

I was looking at the NFL Daily Top 25 players in the last 25 years rankings that you were a big part of it. Were you solely a part of that? Was that completely your ranking? That was all me. I didn't want anyone else taking the heat. Okay. So yeah, I was going to ask you about heat.

So you had Tom Brady one, Mahomes to Peyton Manny three Aaron Donald for JJ watt five Aaron Rodgers six and I won't give it a whole top 25 but of those kind of top picks For which one did you take the most heat? It's funny you ask it's Rodgers where a lot of people thought he's too low. How could you put him behind the two defensive players? How could you even put him behind Mahomes? This guy has lost, you know, one four MVP's. And then a lot more people were saying he's way too high. There's no world that Aaron Rodgers is that good. So that makes me think

that he was in the right spot because he got the most complaints on both sides and maybe that just speaks to Aaron Rodgers. He makes people mad Yeah, I think that's reasonable though like for me Yeah, I think he's probably the fourth best quarterback in the last 25 years Like I think that makes sense like Brady's clearly number one for me I might are I might have Manning ahead of Mahomes, but that's up for debate But I guess without having the list in front of me you got it Dave Who's who's the fifth best quarterback in the last me, you got it Dave. Who's the

fifth best quarterback in the last 25 years? He's got here he's got Breeze? He's got Breeze. Breeze is fifth and then Lamar. Lamar gets in there. Okay. Yeah he was the only other current one. There were, TJ Watt actually snuck in there as another current player too. When look at that defensive player the year votes in how he's been top four four straight years that it's pretty unprecedented i felt like i had to put him in there uh... breezes the one guy i gotta say i got maybe as much or more heat about him

and you do this list in the list of probably be a little different and the on the date i might have not them up a little higher he was still a bit of number five quarterback uh... but the consistency that he had the problem that he had to me was he was never the best quarterback in the league not really and

that was what i was judging on like aaron donald and jay-jay watch me they were the best defensive player in the league for years on end, which you just don't see too often. And to me, I was judging more on excellence, devity and consistency, and that's kind of what Breeze was. But Breeze was pretty awesome. He's tough to argue with, like stacking up the numbers and also the wins that he did

in his career. Who do you have as the best wide receiver and the best running back for the last 25 years? So, Randy Moss ended up getting to the top. At first I had Calvin Johnson. Man, wide receiver was a tough one to figure out. I also have Terrell Owens on the list, but Larry Fitzgerald didn't even make the list. Antonio Brown, if you ignore who he is as a person, had a truly incredible career. He didn't even make the list.

So that was tough. But I think if you're asking GMs at their very, at the very best, when these players were at their very best, I think the number one wide receiver they would have taken was Randy Moss and the number one running back that they would have taken was LeDany and Tomlinson because to me Tomompson did absolutely everything that a running back have to do at the highest of levels whether that's blocking inside right outside running big plays

chart yardage like receiving like whatever it is he he did everything so well so so those are the two top for me mops and all of the any of top of the it looks like you have to tight ends that made this less than you know how could you argue with either of these guys it's grog and it's travis kelsey who sneaks in at twenty five now i guess all the reports are out of chiefs camp that kelsey looks great and he's in unreal shape

uh... for your i a r or your opinion how much does kelsey have left in the tank he feels like a guy who can turn it on when it really matters which is what you want to hear that he said that they've been only games that really matter to them are in december and in january and february and you can see it he he isn't really able to crank it up

for seventeen three weeks i think rock was like that when he was in tampa bay as well and yet and he showed up in that Super Bowl He would show up in the playoffs and so until he stopped showing up in the playoffs And I think other than the Super Bowl last year Travis Kelsey definitely played well in the playoffs I'm gonna believe in him that the connection he and Mahomes have is just unlike Really anything that we've seen other than Gronk and Brady over the last 20 years with Greg Rosenthal And like the Mahomes story is an interesting one because you

know you got a second of the second on your list of them best players the last twenty five years he's done it all is already moved on to this like next stage of his career where i i don't think he's chasing five thousand yards of fifty touchdowns or maybe not even mvp is a make be solely focused on super Bowls, but that Super Bowl was ugly for him, for Andy Reid, for Kelsey, for everyone. Like Mahomes

struggled, man. The Eagles got at him. Does he have anything to prove this season? I think he does. I think quarterback careers are so long we forget that Tom Brady had different phases when certainly he was more team oriented when he was popping up better statistically and for Patrick Mahomes to have a career that's considered with Manning and Brady in the end, he's going to have to start popping up and hitting those deep plays. He averaged 6.8 yards per temp last year. They have not been particularly fun

to watch the last two seasons. They have been a station to station. This get with the defense gives you type of offense. And I know Mahomes isn't gonna be as athletic as he was when he first came into the league, but I do think there are gonna be years out there for him where he pops more, where he makes more wow plays, where the stats pop up more.

And I do think he if he is back in the MVP discussion this year great catching up with you Greg we really appreciate you doing this all right good talking to you guys there is Greg Rosenthal host of the NFL Daily podcast seasoned gamer or just video game curious this week in gaming is the podcast for you we break down the latest podcast. all the latest updates, even if you're a total newbie. Stream This Week in Gaming on the free iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts.