OverDrive - Russo on the United States' 4 Nations Face-Off mentality, Hughes' injury impact and Matthews' captain role
Episode Date: February 12, 2025NHL Writer for The Athletic Michael Russo joined OverDrive to discuss the United States' roster at the 4 Nations Face-Off tournament, Auston Matthews' captain role on the team, Bill Guerin's mentality... for winning, Quinn Hughes' injury impact, the mindset of the group and more.
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How are you doing, Michael?
Good.
I thought I was a surprise guest for half a second.
Well, you are.
You're a great guest.
We're fired up to have you from the athletic.
We've been pumping you up.
Yeah, we've been pumping your tires for two hours, man.
It's funny enough, I sat next to CJ yesterday as he was on with you guys, so it's funny
you guys called him today.
How is the media contingent down there?
Are people fired up or are they just grinding away, submitting pieces?
Shocking enough, CJ was still at the rink when I just left there.
Yeah, we're missing the media reception.
It started at 6.
And you know sports writers don't like to miss free food and booze.
So I'll be heading over there.
Is that why they enjoy a stiff scotch?
Is that why they enjoy a stiff scotch?
Is it because the timeline is tight and it's a bunch of work and your brain's kind of fried
so it's like booze time?
Pretty much.
That's been my life for 30 years.
You don't get to look like me for no reason.
And funny enough, I mean, CJ was doing, we were in the concierge lounge yesterday when
he was doing the interview with you.
It's just also free booze and free food.
So we were very on brand.
So Michael, tell us about the vibe around the USA team.
I mean, obviously they're big, they're strong, they're very talented, and a lot's been made
of their goaltending, having the best goalie in the game.
So just what do you think their overall vibe is heading into this Four Nations faceoff?
Yeah, I think it's, I mean it to me it's exciting I'll be honest you know
as much as I'm honored to cover the tournament I was you know a week ago I
was like what's this gonna be like it's gonna be like a glorified all-star
weekend or what but then watching these practices the last couple days and how
intense it is I mean these guys are here to win it and when you you know just
looking at Team Canada when you look at their power play unit and you see it's like, you
know, Crosby, McKinnon, and McCarr, and McDavid all in the same unit, holy moly,
it's pretty exciting and I think that's what the way the US feels right now. They
feel like they're the deepest team in the tournament. We'll see once they
once they obviously suit up, they have an extra day to prepare than Canada.
They've got incredible goaltending.
Because of that, in a short tournament, there might not be much wiggle room for Halliburke.
How long can you wait if all of a sudden he does struggle out of the gate, which I'd be
a little shocked at, but we'll see.
The vibes are good.
The practices have been shockingly intense.
Even Canada's practice today, Brad Marsham's running over guys.
It's been pretty fun the first couple days and we'll see how the tournament starts tomorrow.
It seemed like the USA has put like an emphasis on like they want big and strong out there.
I know they got some real talented players but with some smaller guys passed over they
said we're going big and strong and fast and we're going to be tough to beat.
Do you not get that sense?
Yeah.
And, you know, I covered Bill Guerin as my day job covering the Minnesota Wild and that
is his MO.
I mean, you know, I mean, you remember those lines that he was on in all his USA tournaments
playing with guys like Keith Kachuk.
And then I remember Mike Madonna used to call them Khan and Kreet, right? So,
you know, Madonna was always in the middle of concrete essentially with Garron and Kachuk and
that's the way that he's built this team and the way that he wants them to play. You know, obviously
there were some guys that I think that he left off that were, that some people were very surprised
on. You know, the Clayton Kellers, of the cold-claw fields but it's pretty that
very reason that you get that in
and uh... you know they would be one uh... you know what players that are
going to accept roles uh... you know there's a lot of guys are go-to guys on
their nlp
the bill larkin to the world there
now played for flying wing here and at least to start the tournament so
um... that's just the way you get in a best on best tournament.
And I do think that they want them to play hard and fast.
How big of a loss is it going to be for Quinn Hughes not on the back end?
Yeah, I think it's a massive loss. You know, to me, it's just like losing Heiskind in Finland.
You know, and you see it, you know, Quinn was going to quarterback their number one power
play, obviously could be on the the ice in all key situations.
And to me, he is along with McCarroll,
one of the two best defensemen in the game right now, and
very easily could be a North candidate again this year.
And so I think it's a massive loss.
I was a little surprised just the way that Bill Gearon and Mike Sullivan and
John Hines have been talking up Zach Warenki all
season long, especially the last couple months, that he actually wasn't on Power Play One in
today's practice, that they are going with Adam Fox. He's had a little bit of a down year. I think
he's been playing with an injury. But Fox is obviously going to get the initial look there,
then Warenki on Power Play Two. But losing Quinn is just such a massive loss of uses such dynamic defenseman uh... you know you know what twenty five points i
think he's up on uh... and leading scoring for the vancouver cutouts right
now uh...
you know i think rock besters second behind him
and uh... it's just a it's a big big loss another jack uh... talked yesterday
about supporting it is for the family but
but uh... you know the hope is that they'll both be healthy uh year's Olympics. Was it a slam dunk for Austin Matthews to be
the captain of this team and what's the the feeling around Matthews being the
leader of this USA group? Yeah I think so I mean he's the best American in the
world and so I think I think that you go with that right from the beginning you
know they have a lot of captains a lot of leaders on this team you know to me
there really was like I heard that Matthew Kichuk got a couple votes.
I'm sure that Bill Garron, it wouldn't shock me, was one of them just because of
his history with Keith. But to me, Austin was just an
absolute shoe-in. But they've got just so many great players. I did a
huge story on Jack Igel that's gonna run in tomorrow's athletic. Here's another guy you know what what he's turned into in
Vegas being one of the top two-way centers in the league. It's been pretty
impressive. I think he's gonna be their top matchup center in this tournament
and go head-to-head against the best and but Austin is obviously you know
such a tremendous player. I think that nobody would argue that he's the best
American player just because the leader that he's the best American player
just because the leader that he is with Toronto. It just made all the sense to the world. I mean,
he is the face of American hockey in my opinion. Michael, before we get you out here,
Hellebuck always seems to be a little bit chippy. He seems to be confident in his ability,
and it seems like this tournament has really got his attention. Can you see a bit of a look in his
eye where he's like, I want to show everybody that I truly am the best goalie in the world?
Yeah, I absolutely agree with Ian, especially because of the way that last year's playoffs went for him.
I think on the big stage he wants to show that he is the best, not only the best goalie in the world,
but specifically on the United States because there's so much talk of just how good Jake Odenger or
Jeremy Swainman could be if they ever needed
him.
So I think he's going to want to go in there and shut down every team that he plays.
The guy is enormous.
Just being around him the last couple days, it's hilarious.
I'd love to see a little Canada-U.S. goalie fight on Saturday night.
That'd be something in Montreal.
You know, Jordan Bennington would be a game for that. So but I just I do think that Hellebuck is
is you know and doodles could tell you I just think that he's just from a elite
standpoint he's just been so impeccable this season and you know put himself in
the conversation obviously not just for a second straight Vezna but even the
heart trophy talk.
Michael, really appreciate you hopping on, giving us the skinny on the USA team, so have
fun in the tournament and hopefully we'll do this again soon.
Yep, anytime guys, take care.
Okay.
Michael Russo from The Athletic covers the Minnesota Wild on a daily basis.
