OverDrive - Sanchez on the Bills’ season outlook, Jackson’s playoff reputation, and the concerns surrounding Stafford
Episode Date: August 15, 2025TSN Football Analyst Davis Sanchez on the Bills’ season outlook, Lamar Jackson’s playoff reputation, and the concerns surrounding Matthew Stafford....
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supply. The final score, Brian Hayes, Dave Feschuk. Look who we have here, Davis. Joining us in
studio, what's happening in Davis? Be here. How you doing, man? You're wearing every hat. You got
CFL, NFL, NFL? They say the more you could do, right? That's right. That's right. That's it. And it gets
me out of the house. Absolutely. And Dave, you were talking about the bills. Davis came in just immediately
you start hammering about the bills and expectations and what we think are going to happen this year for
I got a lot of Bill's fans of my life, and of course, a lot of Bill's fan heartbreak racked up over the years.
And I was just Santa Davis, like, I don't know, like, the more you see this team come close and miss, come close and miss, you start to wonder, like, will they ever get over the hump and Hayes, you're saying it might be their year?
How do you see it?
Yeah. The lack of, here's the thing, the lack of offseason moves is a good thing. Like, it's the loaded.
That's the thing. You look at what the bills did in the offseason.
They didn't do much.
I mean, I think Joey Bose is a good signing.
I think Harrison's a good young corner.
But we don't have to make a lot of moves.
That's because you have a pretty good roster.
Yeah.
So, I mean, the problem with the Buffalo Bills is not,
this is not groundbreaking, but if the AFC is so damn difficult.
I mean, that's, this is a great, this is a great team,
an excellent team with a superstar quarterback.
And just because of the Mahomes, the Burroughs, the Jackson's,
and the pieces around, it's just, I mean.
Well, it's got a.
Raptors running into LeBron
feel to it, right? Because it is
fairly acute. It's
Mahomes and the Chiefs that they have an issue.
But why is that, you said this is their year? What's
what's the difference? Well, here's what I think
the Chiefs are, they're bound to
take a step back personally. I think
I'm not convinced this, Travis Kelsey,
I'm back in my prime because I'm doing
photo shoots and I tell you, I'm back
in my prime is going to be legitimate.
You know, we'll see what happens with Rice
and what happens with him into the season.
But I look at them. They're defensive.
has been stout.
They still have spags.
They still have what could be a top five,
top seven defense.
But I just,
they won so many one score games last year.
I think they were 10 and 0 or 11 and 0 in one score.
That's just,
it's not going to happen again.
And that division,
I think,
is better.
Denver was probably the biggest surprise
in the league last year or close to it.
I think that continues.
I think the chargers,
I worry about they just lost their tackle
for a season.
That's going to be troubling.
That's really,
really big.
But I think the charges are going to be pretty good.
I think Pete Carroll and Vegas,
is probably better than they were in the past.
So I just, I'm not convinced the Chiefs every single year
are just going to be able to keep doing this.
It just doesn't work that way.
It didn't work with, like when Brady was in New England,
it wasn't every single year they go to the Super Bowl.
Like he's, he's been doing interviews recently.
He's like, when I first got in the league,
three Super Bowl is my first four years,
I thought this is nothing.
He didn't win again for over a decade.
It doesn't, it's never that easy.
So I think Kansas City takes a bit of a step back.
Buffalo's chomping at the bit.
I think they run away with the east.
I think they end up with the top seed in the AFC,
and everyone's got to go through Buffalo.
I think that's a good setup for that.
I'm seeing the vision.
I'm getting a sense here that you're just catering to your fan base here, Hay.
That's part of it.
I'm not buying this.
I'm not buying this.
Western New York, man.
We're big.
It travels across the lake.
But I like Buffalo.
I mean,
I'm not talking about some horrible team that's going to take off here.
You're a Bill's fan.
You fall the bills.
I fall the bills.
We know what it is.
I'll say this about the Chiefs real fast.
The Eagles, what the Eagles did to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl,
that shouldn't be a surprise.
And it should tell us something about the roster.
Because they absolutely dominated the Chiefs.
And to your point, all the things that we saw the Chiefs doing,
the wins that they had that they probably shouldn't have,
it speaks to their greatness and to Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reed in crucial times.
But what the Eagles did to them also speaks to the difference in rosters right now
between the Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas Chiefs.
Yeah, like the Eagles, I think still, they deserve to be the prohibitive favors to win the Super Bowl again, I think.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Is it the Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs that where the big golf is or is the Eagles and everyone else?
It's the Eagles and the Ravens are the two best teams in the NFL, in my opinion.
Where are the weaknesses in those two teams?
Yeah.
And the scary part is if we look back in the history of football, you see great rosters with pretty good quarterbacks.
These are two really good quarterbacks.
with great rosters.
Yeah.
Well, and that's like Lamar,
you look at what he's done,
Lamar Jackson early in his career.
He's already got two MVPs.
He could have had a third one last year.
Like he was right there.
It was him and Alan just going back and forth.
You know,
he doesn't turn the ball.
He doesn't get hit that much anymore.
You know,
like that was the concern because he's not a big guy
and he can run like early in his career.
What if he just gets laid out?
He doesn't allow himself to get hit.
Very true.
So,
but he's got a reputation
that Alan,
doesn't like Josh Allen has a reputation
of he just can't beat Mahomes
and even in the games where he can't beat Mahomes
he's putting up stats and numbers
Lamar's got a rep that he doesn't get it done in the playoffs
right like that concerns me more than the bills
right like how do you
how do you marry the two where I hear
what you're saying like the Ravens are stacked
but how do you have faith that Jackson
is going to get it done in the biggest games
because he's got to go through the same
quarterbacks the Allen's and the Mahomes
and burros and other guys like that
Any of us by the fact that Lamar Jackson's playoffs struggles
or somehow, you know, Lamar Jackson is not clutch?
Lamar Jackson is shrinks in the biggest moments.
I'm not, I'm not buying it.
Do you buy that?
I mean, he hasn't been transcendent in big games.
But it's, to me, I ask the question because I think it's circumstantial.
Okay.
I don't think it's because Lamar Jackson doesn't have a clutch gene in him.
I don't think it's because Lamar, you know, chokes in big moments.
I think it's circumstantial.
So for that reason, Hayes, I don't worry about,
you know, the Ravens in the playoffs
or Lamar the player. Well, and it is in some
ways the nature of the sport. You get
like one game and if you're not ready to play, you're
out, right? It's like, at a best of seven, you may have
a struggling game one and be great in game
two and three and four. In football, you don't have it.
But it probably also speaks
to just what Mahomes has established
so early in his career that the bar
is so high. For
Lamar, for the evaluation of Lamar and
Josh Allen and Joe Borough, you know,
these other three quarterbacks
who like have all
great, all-time great talents, you know, like when you look at the statistics and how fun
they are to watch play. Like, Alan, Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, in my opinion, the two
most entertaining players in the game. Like, you can't, you can't stop watching them play.
They are a blast to watch and they win and their stats are incredible and their leaders
and, you know. But you look at Mahomes. But then it's Mahomes.
The Holmes is highlight real and big games might be the most entertaining thing to watch.
Like, this guy's ever.
believable place. Yes. In the biggest
moments. Right. Exactly. Those other guys
I'm not sure they have. Yeah.
I mean, Allen's had some moments,
but then they were ripped away from them in some
circumstances by Mahomes.
Exactly. You left 13 seconds on the clock.
Or by his own coaching staff. And by his, and by his
defense, which, again,
I don't know if the bills fans
in which, I'm a believer in the bills,
that's the thing. I don't know if they answered
all the questions. I mean, look at
look at the secondary of the Buffalo bills. And I say, it's a
great roster. But when you have Trudevius White, penciled in as your starter, not to say he
can't have a bounce back, but I question that. You have Maxwell Harrison, who has never
played a snap in the NFL and is 5'11. I have some questions about that. Even Benford's a
sixth rounder who's been excellent, but he's still a sixth round physical talent is still of a
six-rounder. So there's just more questions than the others. But Josh Allen, his
great. It seems to answer a lot of the questions or maybe camouflage some of the questions.
Well, that's the thing. Like, he's so good. He's so good. David Sanchez in studio. So the
Eagle is clearly the top team in the NFC. Is it Detroit's clear cut number two for you?
Or, you know, like how wide open is the NFC beyond Philly, in your opinion?
I think Detroit is right there. Yeah. And again, I would look at Detroit. Same thing.
Defensively, Detroit has some questions. But yeah, Detroit's right there with Philly. And then I, then I think there's a, then I think there's a gap.
Who are our third and four teams?
Is it the Rams, the Packers, I think, would be up there?
Packers probably make a case.
You believe in the commanders again.
You've got to have the box.
Could they, you know, it's a weak division in the NFC South.
There's got to be some serious concerns about Matthew Stafford.
Yeah.
The fact of, you know, a lower back, we, you know how the back is.
And the fact, he takes one hit.
That's, I'm concerned with that, but it would be the Rams and it would be the pack.
Yeah.
But, yeah, I'm concerned.
I would not, any futures bets, which I don't love anyway, but any futures,
I would fade the Rams heavily because they don't even know the numbers right now.
That's the issue.
Or they have injury.
If staff, I mean, it applies to any team.
If you're starting quarterback.
For the Rams.
I don't even know who the back.
I couldn't tell you who it is.
Yeah.
It better be somebody good because he might get some snaps.
But, yeah, that division will be interesting.
Like, you look at the 49ers and now Brock Purdy's been paid and, you know, he's getting serious money now.
So he's got to play up to that cap hit, right?
it's no longer $850,000 or $900,000.
It's now $52 million or $53 million.
And they had six wins last year.
Yeah.
They finished dead last in the N.C. West.
A lot of injuries.
They got Robert Sala back, defensive coordinator.
I think that's fairly significant.
I don't know where you stand on bringing a coordinator like that back.
Yeah, me too.
As a D.C. for sure.
I just, I'm curious about what they do this year.
Like McCaffrey, you talked about Stafford.
McCaffrey just feels like he's always one pivot away from blowing his Achilles
are tearing a calf or something.
He'll be heading to Munich, Germany.
He's done that flight to Munich a few times.
He and Austin love it over there.
And it's Jimmy G., by the way.
Jimmy Garoppolo.
Oh, okay.
All right, back in the West Coast.
I didn't know that off hand.
I had no idea of Garoplo was the backup.
That does not make me sleep well at night
if I'm Sean McVeigh.
He's competent.
Like, Garoplo might give you five stars.
Maybe you can get you two or three wins.
We could all, we could know one thing for sure.
You go across NFL?
And take injuries to a quarterback out of the conversation
because soon as you have an injured quarterback,
the whole dynamic of your team changes,
that's going to be for, what, 30 teams?
Yes.
So, I mean, yeah.
No question.
David Sanchez in studio, CFL and TSN tonight.
The Argos are out west.
They're in Edmonton tomorrow night.
And we've been kind of waiting for them to, like, turn this corner a little bit.
We had Ryan Dinwiddie on a couple weeks ago,
and he had mentioned that they've got to create chaos to get back into the dance.
And at that point, they had just beaten Winnipeg.
And he felt like, okay, that's somewhat chaotic.
And we feel like we're maybe moving the right direction.
And since then, it hasn't necessarily gone their way.
But tomorrow's one, it's basically a must win.
But I'm guessing the Elks are probably saying the same thing, right?
Like both teams kind of high.
If you can't beat Edmonton, if you're to Toronto,
if you can't beat the Argos if you're the Elks,
who are you going to beat in this league?
Can we talk about Ryan did with his comments postgame?
Did you happen to see his rant postgame
I mean, basically calling his group or some guys in the group, pretenders.
That's strong language.
I mean, to come out and say, we have some pretenders in this locker room after a loss,
I don't know.
I mean, he's earned that.
He's been a pretty good coach.
But I don't know.
There's got to be some teetering on, are you losing the room?
Is there not to say he's lost the room, but there's got to be some guys in that room
that don't take too kindly to being called a pretender.
And then that, that, I'm going to see how, I would like to see how to respond tomorrow.
Yeah, that feels like a nuclear option for a coach, right?
To be like, I've tried everything else.
I'm, I'm going to zap you with, like, the integrity of a professional, you know, like.
So I'll tell you now, as a vet, that's not fueling me.
No.
To tell me I'm a pretender, I'm looking at you, like, and especially no disrespect to Ryan Dinwiddie,
the quarterback.
that you're calling someone a pretender and I like Ryan and he's a he's a good coach
you call him someone to pretend that's not a missing missing reads or you know bad
throws you're saying that you're not coming to play you're getting your butt whooped and
you're not good enough yeah that's a quarterback saying that to a bunch of defensive
linemen offensive linemen I don't know how that stands but if I'm a vet I'm not going out
there tomorrow and want to throw it on the line instead I'm yeah I might lean the other way
and be pissed.
The young guys might buy it, but I'll think of it.
But is that speaking to delusional opinions of themselves?
Chad Kelly's been quoted in a podcast saying he's a top 32 NFL quarterback.
I mean, he was the MOP of the CFL a couple of years ago,
but he hasn't done anything since.
I mean, is his sense of self maybe a little bit out of whack?
Yeah, I would say absolutely.
I mean, I mean, listen, I'm not sure what universe.
He's living in if he believes
he's the top 32 NFL quarterback considering
he doesn't really have a resume.
He's saying his resume speaks for itself.
I mean, is he talking about his college football resume
from a decade ago?
Chad's, I think he's a confident guy.
He's clearly a confident guy.
He's an SEC quarterback, and I think
he's probably looked at his career and thought
he deserved opportunities
or didn't take advantage of past opportunities.
It's tough to say that, though, to your point
when you haven't played in a long time.
And last year, he was riddled with controversy.
Yeah.
He was suspended for a long time.
You know, so, like, you, you weren't, he didn't win the Great Cup last year.
No.
Like, he wasn't playing.
He didn't play.
Yeah.
So.
I believe the, the, the playoff performance before that was not a good one.
Is that?
Well, he went in.
Yeah, exactly.
And it's, I don't know.
I think, I'm all for confidence.
Yeah.
I get it.
And you got to sell yourself first because no one else going to sell, sell yourself.
But, you know, if you're, if you're a top 64 quarterback in the league, you're in camps right now in the States.
Like, that's just a fact.
If you're top 32, you're in a uniform every single Sunday in the National Football League.
Like it's, they got taped down there.
They know what's not, look, he's not hurting anybody by saying that because it has no reflection on his current team or anybody else.
That's a personal thing for Chad.
Right.
You're pumping your own tire.
Good for him.
And he's fair point.
He is a gamer, and Chad's a gamer.
There's no question.
Yeah.
I mean, so whether he is or he isn't, that's for, we don't have to decide that he,
if he believes it, he believes it.
Yeah.
But if he's going to play this year, I mean, and they're two and seven, is there, like,
do you see a path to a rebound here?
I don't think so.
No, I mean, that's two and seven, you're in.
And defensively, they're terrible.
Like, Chad Kelly can't, he's not playing on the other side of the ball.
I mean, even offensively, there, Nick Arbuck, who's playing now, has been pretty
good but he's been sacked i think more than anybody else he's thrown i think he's up to the top of
interception so they're winning and not in that traditional ways so i wouldn't uh i think they're in
trouble yeah and tomorrow night i think that may be the nail in the coffin you come home from evinson
you're two and eight you want the gold star lockhays yeah what you got what you got tonight i got
i got the ottawa red blacks tonight red blacks on the money line i think it's uh what we got i think we got
three and that plus three and a half i believe i see i like that right now you're taking the points
right now? The red blacks are
pretty good. Okay.
There are some holes in that Winnipeg team
and the red blacks are better than expected.
I like it. There's a free. There's a free one.
Free one. We're on the points tonight. First one's free.
David Sanchez's hooking us up. We're taking the points
tonight. Go red blacks.
All right, Davis, great seeing you, man. Thanks for doing it.
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