OverDrive - Turbin on Cook's hold-in with the Bills, Parsons' future in Dallas and the Bengals' pursuit for a better start
Episode Date: August 5, 2025Former NFLer and SiriusXM NFL Radio Analyst Robert Turbin joined OverDrive to discuss the headlines from the NFL training camps, Micah Parsons's future with the Cowboys, James Cook's hold-in with the ...Bills, Terry McLaurin's next steps in Washington, Travis Hunter's two-way game, starters in a preseason matchup and more.
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Let's welcome in Robert Turman, former NFL running back, Sirius XM NFL analyst.
What's up, Robert?
How are we doing?
Hey, I'm doing great, fellas.
How about yourself?
Thanks for having me.
We're all right.
It's always great to have you on the show.
One of the best guests when it comes to talking NFL.
And I'm curious to know how you think this Micah Parsons situation will unfold with the Dallas Cowboys.
He'll eventually get a contract.
You know, it will be some give and take on both sides.
But, you know, I think by the time.
time the season starts, you know, who will have a contract, and it'll be a Dallas Cowboy.
The relationship will be, you know, probably a little bit rocky, but it always ends up
being mended.
It was mended with that press guide.
It was mended with C.D. Lamb.
You can go back to Des Bryant and some other players.
They always end up working it out.
Yeah, my question, though, like, you think Jerry Jones knows that the contracts come, and
it seems like everyone else in the world is well aware that Mike apart.
Carson's going to end up getting his deal.
You think Jerry knows that?
He's just plying this out for what reason I don't know.
Yeah, Jerry, Jerry knows, you know, look, he's sitting in his presser.
He's been doing this 30 years or whatever it is.
He knows.
He knows the contract is coming.
He just, you know, he just likes to, it seems like he just, you know, he likes to try to hold the keys.
You know, he likes to try to, you know, be in charge in some ways, be in control.
You know, it's probably a better word to use.
of the day. He knows like everybody. The contract is going to get done one way or another.
Another kind of contract standoff that we have right now around the NFL, especially of interest
here in Toronto, right down the road. You got Buffalo, James Cook, a member of your running
back community, a little holding situation. How do you think that plans out? Do you think he gets
the contract he wants to? No. James Cook will not get the contract. And unfortunately, yeah,
I don't want to say that he doesn't deserve it,
but what I will say is that the bills are going to be good with or without.
James Cook, James Cook does not move the needle like that for Buffalo.
And if you look at the other running backs that are in that room,
Ray Davis and the other guys, even Frank Gore-Jr Jr.,
for crying out loud, good players.
And they showed that they could be impactful in the run game
when James Cook was hurt last year.
And the bottom line is
James Cook is not the top ten
running back in the league.
So the hold-in is,
I hate to say it's laughable,
but what I'm trying to say is that
he just doesn't
he doesn't move the needle for that team
for them to want to give him
likely the type of contract that he wants.
So I don't think he's going to get paid it.
I don't think after this season, it will be a Buffalo bill.
When you look at the situation in Washington, McClain,
is it closer to what's going to play out in Buffalo, or do you think in Dallas?
No, I think more of Dallas.
You want to talk about a guy that moves the needle without Terry McCorn,
at least this season.
You know, maybe in the future, maybe down the road,
the Washington commanders will be okay without McCorn,
but you don't want Debo-Sanel being your number one-wire season right now.
And so you talk about a team who's right on the doorstep of being a Super Bowl, you know, going to the Super Bowl.
You're talking about a quarterback where everybody is seemingly, you know, discussing him in the MVP conversation this season.
None of that is realistic if, you know, Terry McCorn is not in your lineup.
And so they got to get this done.
They will get it done.
I think he'll be a commander this season and be.
Our guest is Robert Turbin, former NFL running back, now with Sirius XM NFL Radio.
A player that I'm really excited to watch this year is Travis Hunter, who won the Heisman
trophy last year, the number two overall pick, and the debt chart came out for the Jaguars
today, and he was a starting receiver and he was a backup corner.
How do you envision this playing out with Travis Hunter, of course, at Colorado was playing
both sides of the ball?
Do you think that's something he can replicate in the pros, Robert?
well I think it just depends on how you monitor his reps you know throughout not only a game but you know throughout practice and the entire season you know as long as he's got his legs under and play him you know he wants to play both sides you know let him play as long as he's you know as long as he's being impactful in the game as long as he knows what he's doing out there as long as he understands the calls and he knows what the signals are and he knows what the audibles and the adjustments are you know
You know, Wallachated is going on pre-snap player.
You know, that was part of what he wanted, going through the draft process,
and I think the Jaguars are going to grant him that opportunity.
But you've got to monitor.
At the end of the day, he's only human.
So you've got to monitor his minutes, you know, for lack of a better way, to describe it.
Robert, the Bengals head coach, Zach Taylor, came out today and said that his starters,
including Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, and a number of their big boys,
are actually going to get some reps
play multiple series in their upcoming week one
preseason game.
They're one in nine through the first two weeks
in the Zach Taylor era.
How much do you think that had to do with this decision?
I think it had a lot to do with it.
You look at a team like the Kansas City Chiefs
who have been dominating the NFC now
for a number of years.
Patrick Holmes is always playing a week one of the preseason.
You know, so there's some.
something to getting out there, getting lathered up, playing full speed,
getting the competition, and using that momentum or at least gaining that rhythm
heading into week one of the regular season.
The Bengals cannot continue to have slow starts and then expect to be the Bengals team
that beat the Chiefs in the playoffs a few years ago.
So they're hoping for a faster start to the year,
and I think that's why you see Coach Zach Taylor making this decision
to play his starters in week one, pre-season.
It seems like that Cleveland Browns have enough quarterbacks
just to play all offensive lines.
So how do you see this packed quarterback room working
with Joe Flacco, Schroeder Sanders, and company?
Well, I think Joe Flacco is going to end up being a starter,
but I think that the Browns are happy that they're in this situation.
You know, honestly, since Baker Mayfield, of all people,
left the team.
They really haven't had any consistent quarterback play other than, you know, the year, a couple
years ago when they got Joe Flacco late in the season and they were able to go to the playoffs.
So I think it's great what they created.
What they created was competition.
There's always competition at every position on the field during training camp, except 99% of
the time at quarterbackers not, okay?
Well, they've created some competition there, and it's a good thing.
problem to have. It gives Coach
Stefanski a real opportunity
to really sit back and really
dissect the tape and really evaluate
what he's got there and who he
wants to be the starter
for the entire year
this year. Not one of these guys that
you're going to, you know, plug
in and maybe have to pull
four weeks later. Coach
Cofansky is looking for the guy who can be the
starter for 17 games
this season.
And so he's letting all four and now five
of these guys, you want to throw in Snoop Hunley in there, who was recently signed,
you know, let him duke it out and let the best man win.
Our guess is Robert Turbin.
So let's talk about the AFC East.
I think we know the Buffalo Bills, barring some catastrophe will win the division.
If you had to pick between the Dolphins, the Patriots, and the Jets to finish second,
who is your bet of those three, Robert?
Well, I don't, it's not going to be the Dolphins.
I'll tell you that right now.
Until the Dolphins can, you know, I don't know, I guess, first of all, prove that they can win when it's cold outside.
But secondly, you know, show that they have like an actual team, you know, with culture and leadership and all those kinds of things.
I'm kind of out on the Dolphins.
It's a tough one between the Jets and the Patriots because both good teams.
I'm going to lean slightly towards the Jets.
And the only reason why I'm going to lean slightly towards the Jets
is because I think they have a slightly better defense.
And we're talking about a defense that was once upon a time.
They took a step back last season.
But in seasons prior to that, those young players,
I mean, we're talking about a really, really good defense when Robert Sala was the head coach.
And they got a lot of those same players that are still there.
And obviously, there was some disconnect last season,
but I think that's more of an anomaly as opposed to that's who they really are.
And so because they've always had a strong defense,
I think that will show up again this year.
And now they've got a guy who can make some play with their quarterback.
So I'm going to lean slightly towards the Jets coming in second.
Robert, my friend Jason Struttwick here is a passionate New York Giants fan,
His O.C. Human Euro jersey is not pictured in his background.
I think that's sitting beside there.
But you know Russell Wilson well from your time in Seattle?
What type of expectations do you have for him in New York?
I think my expectations for the Giants, they're the dark horse team of the NFC.
Wow.
They are.
They're a dark horse team in the NFC because they've upgraded defensively.
They're going to have a strong pass rush.
And all the attention is centered around Jackson, Dard, and Russell Wilson, and it should be.
But, you know, I wouldn't ignore the surrounding parks, you know, to the quarterback on offense.
They've got a strong run game with Tyrone Tracy Jr.
All he needs to do is be more consistent, hold on to the football.
But Camp Scadaboo is having a nice training camp.
He's going to be an added value to that run game.
And we already know what Malik neighbors brings to the table.
They've got decent wide receivers and a tight end,
sitting around these guys.
The offensive line has struggled in years past,
but they've upgraded there this season.
They just got to go out there and prove it and put it on tape.
But they're not a team that you can ignore.
And if you look at the NFC, you got the Eagles, right?
Boom.
We already know.
The Eagles going about their business right now.
But the Cowboys are dealing with distractions right now,
and so are the Washington commanders.
and the Giants are just quietly going about their business
and getting better every day at training camp.
Nobody's talking about it.
And I think when you have a team like that,
when nobody's talking about them,
that's when they become the most dangerous.
And that's why I'm saying,
be on the lookout for the Giants.
I think they're a dark horse team in the NFC.
Guests of the day, lock it, give it to them.
Give them the award.
Guests of the day, thank you for that.
I needed to be built up.
For those who are listening, Jason Strubbock has just put on his Ahmaud Bradshaw, Jers,
during Robert's answer.
Robert, thanks so much for doing this, man.
Yeah, I just had to get to the Giants' callbacks.
And I grab my turban coltschard.
Oh, let's go.
We've got to get that signed for you, Al's brother.
Robert will set that out for you.
Let's say that up for you.
Thanks for doing this, man.
We really appreciate it.
So good.
Anytime, fellas.
Thank you.
All right.
That's Robert.
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