OverDrive - Willson on Bills' come from behind triumph, Rodgers' elite debut and Parsons' start with the Packers

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

TSN Football Analyst Luke Willson joined OverDrive to discuss the storylines from Week 1 of the NFL season, the Bills' comeback win against the Ravens, Josh Allen greatness in comparison to Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers' stellar debut, Daniel Jones' career game, Micah Parsons' start with the Packers and more.

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I'm going to even it out because on Friday, Hayes, I did that weird thing that you and our brothers do. I love it. So I'm going to hand out a pro-athlete salute just to even it out for one. I'll be Peter Schreger. I'll shregor this. It's now called the Ryan Clark salute. The Ryan Clark salute. What did you make of that party?

The Ryan Clark comment. Honestly, the guy's unhinged, and I don't mean that in a fun way. Like, it's one thing if he's unhinged and it's funny. Right. You know, it's just ridiculous. It's a wild profit. And it's like week after week after week after week. and you're just like, this has gotten to a point.

It's almost like he keeps doubling and tripling down. Calling Peyton Manning, not a generational talent. What about Brady? Brady? Outrageous. And it's outrageous. Like, what is your definition? And then all of a sudden from there, now of a sudden, Peter Shrager,

who is like an extremely respected NFL guy. Like, even when I was playing, this guy is extremely respected. Yeah. To be like, no, no, no, you can't, I mean, have an opinion. and like, that's the non-player in you talking? A wild comment. It's a wild comment. And then the craziest part was when he tweeted the apology.

I don't know if you saw this. Yeah. It was in the building. Live tweeting. Yeah. Kind of like sliding in. Sorry, Pete. Wow, what a cat.

It was the greatest little slide-in I've ever seen. I actually appreciate that greatly. Oh, man. Because now you can point to the tweet and just say, well, I apologize. Yeah. I apologize. Hayes, have you seen them like together on a panel yet? They're in Chicago right now.

They're on the Monday night football panel. But have they done the old those two alone and? No, I don't think. I guess they did a little dapp to start the show. And I don't know. We'll see what comes. It's all going to blow over. And the NFL's back.

And look what we've already had. Outranged. Between the opener and then the Friday night game. Blew my mind. And then like last night, okay, I'm going to make a statement here. You guys can all tell me if I'm right or wrong. Yeah. Josh Allen is the most entertainment.

entertaining athlete in pro sports, period. That includes McDavid, Otani, Alcarez, thinner, Lamar. I think he's the most entertaining athlete, period, in pro sports. I'm not putting him ahead of McDavid. McDavid is the only guy that I'm putting in mind. I was going to say Otani because Otani was throwing like 97 the other time. I'm going to say yes. Dude, he's so fun.

I would say, though, that my two is Lamar. The scramble Lamar had We're both sides And Russo These are two World-class athletes Chasing him down

Right But I would say yes I would say Josh is one He's that good man He's that much fun And he's a one-man show And Josh doesn't He's got good players around him

Don't remember I think the bills have a lot of good players But he doesn't have a Derek Henry Like Derek Henry Is from a different planet That guy's not a human He's not Was outrageous

I couldn't believe him fumbling. I couldn't believe it either. I don't think I've ever seen him do it, man. With the game he had for him to be on the wrong side of that fumble. Yes. And like Ed Oliver had himself a night last night, even though they gave up 40. That's what's crazy. Well, how can you not?

This is what I think if Baltimore, we talked a bit about this on Jay last night, is for me, I tip my cap to the bills. You got to. You got to tip your cap to Josh Allen, the Ed Oliver, like the whole thing. and I'm not trying to take anything away from Buffalo. I'm saying if you were in Baltimore's locker room, you're sick to your stomach. I mean, you're up 15 with four minutes to go,

and you scored 40 points, and you lose 41 to 40? Yeah. And again, it kind of goes back. This is what Baltimore will be saying, but you go back to how they got knocked out last year. You have the really bad turnovers by Lamar, and you had the drop by Andrews on the two-pointer late in the game. Right.

And it's just like, hey, we're in cruise control. up 15, we've ran for 10 million yards, we've thrown for a bunch, and if we needed it, Lamar's cooked everybody as well. And it's like, pretty much all we've got to do here is not fumble. Yeah, and then we fumbled. But then the crazier one to mean was, okay, it's a bad bounce. Henry fumbles, you stop the two-pointer. It's like, get a couple first downs, and this thing's, it don't matter.

The fumble is irrelevant now, and you get stopped. Here's another statement. I'm curious your answer on this, because these guys, these guys responded, I think they're in agreement with me. I would implement a new rule as of today if I'm a team owner in the NFL. I'd send an email to my coaches and I'd say, if you are in a scenario

where it's fourth and short, I don't care where it is on the field. I said this, I think I know you're going. And you punt to either Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, or Lamar Jackson. You're fired. You're fired. I agree. You're fired. And Harbaugh does it every single year. I honestly, I sat there and I was like, okay, so D-Hop caught the little shallow route and it was like fourth and two. And I had lightly brought it up last night on J-show as well where I'm like, anybody else you punt there.

If it's not one of those guys, you punt. Sure. But I'm like, Josh was doing whatever he wanted to your defense all night. The only reason you were up was because your offense was scoring at will. Josh was having to manufacture. Which gives you more reason to think you can get two yards. Bingo. I'm like, dude, here are your options.

It's fourth and two, and you have Derek Henry, and you have Lamar Jackson, and you can rest the game. You get a first time, the game's over. Or you punt the ball and you say, hey, guys, stop Josh Allen, who, by the way, has put 38 up against you right now. Right. I think you had, like, it was just like punt. You had to go for it, man.

You had to. And I think there was a timeout, too, or an injury or something? Like, he had time to think on it, and he still sent the punter out. The other trippy one for me was when Jair Alexander had a tough. night. You can't make that tackle, man. You can't make that tackle. Like, you've got to be on the back end, like, hey, if we get burned here, let him score.

And Coleman's a second year guy. I wonder if he was running that in. He was running that in. He was Forrest Gump on his way to that. He would have kept running through the tunnel. I agree. With the drops last year from the tight end, who was it, Andrews? Andrews, yes.

And that last night, does that kind of, and I know everyone's been heavy on Baltimore being the Super Bowl favorite, does that kind of take away a little. I know it's only the first game of the season, but last year, this year, like the clutch gene, does it kind of get into your head a little bit? I think so, and that's where it's just such a strange phenomenon, and it happens across all leagues for me, but you look at Baltimore and you're just like,

get out of your own way. Even the idea that if, you know, that situation where it's like, hey, let's say Henry gets stopped and they don't get a first down, at least you punt it and Josh has to drive the field, you get the ball back on a tie game, you know, because it was eight points at that point. You're in control here. Like if you ask Baltimore, hey, Lamar's going to have the ball

with some time left in a tie game. Are you feeling good about that? Yes. Lamar's in one of the three. Exactly. He's one of the three guys. Yes, but it's just like parts of you said it, I'm like, these guys, they just can't get out of their own way. And the dude was boom and kicks, but here's the other one.

Loop missed the extra point. That's right. Like, that extra point turned out to be a pretty big point. It was one of the craziest games I've ever seen. They just got to get out of their own way. It was amazing last night. And even the whole two-point conversion thing started because of a... He went early on it.

Yeah, an off-side. They're like, all right, let's go for two when they didn't have to. And then that threw the whole calibration of the game out of whack. All right, something to chew on brought to you by Boston Pizza, Canada's favorite sports bar. Enjoy $15 lunch at BP where you get an entree, a side, and a drink. And you'll get it all in 20 minutes or less. A fast lunch doesn't have to be fast food. See you for a $15 fast lunch at your local Boston pizza asking people online.

will or can Josh Allen and or Lamar Jackson, do they still have enough time in their careers to surpass the greatness of Patrick Mahomes? You think there's still enough time for them by the end of their careers to say they had a better career. They were greater than Mahomes.

I don't know, man. To me, now we're talking about definitions. And I'll ask you this. Who had, who, like when you say a better career. Are you talking about entertainment or rings? I'm talking a greater career. I'm talking like, you know, we're talking goat conversation, that's what I'm

talking here. Do you think they can... Like, Mahomes is clearly still the guy of this generation. Clearly still the guy. Here's one, and I am on just so you know, don't smoke me for this. I'm on the Brady side of this. But if you were to ask who had a better career between Peyton and Tom Brady,

like Peyton's got a lot of records now. Best offense statistically ever. Five MVP's most ever. Correct. Like, who... So that's where it's like, it depends on like to me I would take Brady's career but I guess that's what we're talking about like there still was a conversation

now I think once Brady got like the last three Super Bowls it was kind of over certainly when he went to Tampa without Belichick it was like Trump card that was yes but like right now Mahomes is still in my opinion the best player I think you're forgetting too quickly Hayes like you're a Super Bowl shalacking

in a poor performance in Brazil and now all of a sudden we're bringing other guys into the equation saying you're going to have a better career than that how quickly we forget how that it used to be this guy's automatic he always wins that game and a shalacking and a poor game

in Brazil and we're like, can these guys be better? I guess let me lay it out for you. I'm going to answer no because I think Mahomes has too much of a head start. And he's still got 10 years and I think they're going to be great but if these guys are playing for 10 years let's say Alan wins

two Super Bowls in Buffalo with this roster and two more MVPs is it conceivable in 10 years, we say he was greater? I think that's possible. I think right now. But he's got to win. He's got to win.

In the playoffs. Like if Buffalo goes and has a, let's say they're 15-2 this year. I don't care. I mean, I care because they're going to have the one seed. Like, sure, it's great. But like, if he goes and they go 15-2 and they lose to Kansas City in the playoffs, crushing. It's going to be.

Yeah, crushing. You know, and even Mahomes further your point, O'Dog, you know, you look at last season, and I hated this narrative. these guys went into the last week of the season and they were 15 and 1 and they didn't start they didn't start Mahomes and lost to Denver it was a meaningless game

so it's like well and they're like oh well they're all close games they're all close games every game is a close game that like that's not a knock of anything that even proves more greatness they found a way to get it done so I do think that right now because they got blown out in the Super Bowl and you lose a tough opener in Brazil which Mahomes made some ridiculous plays in that. Like now of a sudden everyone's cold on Patty Mahomes.

I don't think we've seen the last of Patty Mahomes this year. Let's put it that way. Partsie, it's only one game, but if you had to put one person on notice after yesterday in a horrific effort, like who would you tap on the shoulder and say, it's only one game, but you're on notice? Player or coach?

Coach, anything. Brian Dable. I was just going to say Dable. Brian Daebel. And is that part of me because of my man? Danny Dimes? Yeah. And Danny Dimes, I mean... Yeah.

No, Danny Dimes makes Daibel look like a turkey. Yeah. And he deserves it. I would argue that Daible makes Dable look like a turkey, but Danny Dimes is the gravy now on top of that. Well, Dable gets so angry, so quickly. Do you see neighbors yelling at him? Oh, yeah. And then he went up for the high five, the neighbors goes, get out of here.

Yeah. Well, dude, see how smart he acts when he's like, he's doing. doing the interviews with quarterbacks and stuff and he's like putting them down and he's like, why would you do that? And he just makes himself look like such a hero. And in actuality, his team's been a joke ever since he got there.

Honestly, you just said it and that's what annoys me about the guy is you see these videos and he acts like he's like a quarterback guru. And I'm like, okay, at this point, I'm not just trying to say this, but it doesn't take much to coach Josh Allen. He's the guy who was involved in Josh Allen. That's kind of

what happens in this league sometimes. well since he's left Josh Allen has gotten exponentially better he's gone to New York he's had all these ideas none of which have worked they looked awful yesterday awful horrendous like horrendous it's hard to watch

and I sit there and they're like what's weird to me is they're like right away like Russ won the spot Russ is the guy Russ Russ Russ Russ Russ Russ and I'm like this looks like the rust we saw in Denver this looks like the same rust we saw in Pittsburgh like what has gone on to give you like you can't tell me they wouldn't have been better without James Winston out there.

I was thinking, forget Jackson Dart. Correct. Winston out there. Not alone playing the next. Why'd you need to get him at all? It's ridiculous. And then again, you've got a guy neighbors is in what, year two? Yeah.

And he's got Uber talent, man. And he's sitting there like screaming at the head coach already. I can't fathom like a year two D.K. Metcalfe coming in and ripping Pete on the sideline. Somebody would have went nuts on our team. Right. You know? Someone would have grabbed the player and says I don't even think.

about doing that. The year we won the Super Bowl, I'm trying to think, like, somebody who was in year two being like, yo, man, I'm going to go repeat a new one. Cam Chancer might have came over there and killed the guy. Right. Like, this is wild. This is the operation you're running in New York. Not a good scene. And they would be hot

today because of it. I mean, you know, it's New York, but it's the Giants. They suck. Here's the thing, noodles. Yeah. And the Jets lost. New York stinks. The defense played well. That's where I was going to go, Luke, is, you know, What about your boy, Aaron Rogers? Oh, let's go.

Noodles, you're just team me up lately, man. He looked pretty good. He looked pretty good. No, it's the Jets. More Tuddies. I know. That one of was a bit cheap. The little, like, pop pass, it's like, that's really a handoff.

They needed everything out of him yesterday. He looked great. His defense did nothing yesterday. And I'll tell you this, three of his touchdowns were on the move. And I'm not saying he's a burner. But that was the whole thing last year. Oh, man, he's got no more mobility. because one of the things when we played Aaron

and I remember this back in the day he's like was unbelievable and we used to prep this and practice it all the time of okay there's the play and then he just basically moved the pocket and then he has the most electric arm in the NFL I'm not saying that now but back in the day it was like hey he's not scrambling like

Russ or some of these other quarterbacks but it is still an off-schedule play and I don't know if you guys heard Tom Brady talk about I think he was on Collinsworth podcast and he was like Aaron is the best thrower of the football in his opinion in the history of the NFL. Everybody, every quarterback that I talk to

marvels at his arm strength. And I think he has the exact same zip, no. But he can still sling that pill now. And the precision is outrageous. It's incredible. Yeah. He's got moxie. Like when he gets dancing back there, he's a little, a little.

Yeah, well, he loves the little jump-up arm-up. Wow. All those improv throws, like, off the back foot where he can just, like, side-arm it, and it's a missile, and somebody say, like, those are impressive. O'Dong, it's like he's not really set. Like the one touchdown he's rolling out, I think it was the third one. Might have been to Calvin Austin. And he, like, didn't even really have his foot in the ground,

just flicks his wrists. And you're expecting, like, the ball to come out of a certain pace. But then it's like 3X on TV. You're like, oh, my God. Yeah. Right at his chest. He looked good. I don't want to put the cart before the horse because it was the Jets,

but he did look pretty good. He looked good. He looked really good. And listen, he wasn't alone. There were a bunch of teams that look good. and then some teams that look bad, and I think the Packers' Lions game was a perfect example of two teams in two different spots.

Parts you would have call, though, a lot of people in here. You know I was going to hammer the Lions. Dude, I would have hammered the Packers. And I thought they looked great on both sides of the ball. And I think what sticks out is like they were selective with using Parsons, but they knew what they had. Like you don't acquire a guy with like Micah Parsons unless you know you got guys that the average fan isn't aware of.

I'll tell you to kind of further what you're saying, what jumped out at me, and obviously he's going to have a bigger package as he continues to be there longer. But he looked fresh. And one of the things I would say is that in Dallas, when you're the main guy, and now of a sudden you're playing every snap,

and it's like, and this is how you prep for this guy, hey, every third down, we're going to chip up with a tight end on you. Hey, early in this game, we're going to take the tight end and make sure we do a divide zone and someone's going to try and saw him in half. Like you're always trying to wear them down

throughout the game, now of a sudden when you've got a great defense like Green Bay has, and you don't even necessarily need him on certain downs, they stopped the run without him yesterday, gave up 2.1 yards for carry to a very good run team, and then be like, oh, it's 3rd and 7? Go chase. Here's Micah Parsons for you, boys.

Did you see how fast he looked when he had Jared Goff in his sight? Somebody had the best tweet there was. This is like a National Geographic video where the cheetah has got like the the old buffalo like that bum leg and he's got him in his sights he's outrageous man

you know what I loved about that too is he didn't have to be on the field no it was 276 no game was over and they said go get go get one this has been it's the lions go get him there's Matt Lafleur needs to

he needs to kind of be on top of this I think we see here the if you're watching right now that kind of effort when he's playing with that kind of effort effort and he's bought in. He's so good. I mean, it's incredible.

But there's been times in Dallas where you haven't seen that. And again, I'm not saying he's checked out mentally, but when you get beat up all game, when you're the only real guy on defense and you walk in on Wednesday, whoever is playing you, and it's like every chance we get, we're taking a shot at Micah Parsons. It's a lot tougher than, hey, we got Rashah Gary here, Quay Walker, we got a lot of good DBs. It's not just Micah. He's going to flourish.

So I think LaFleur, though, needs to make sure that he's in a mental, he being, Micah, is in a very good mental space. You get more effort like that. Big time. There was a great tweet last night. Someone posted Jared Goff without Ben Johnson, and they had a picture of Dan Orlovsky. Because, you know, the Lions, man, like both coordinators gone,

Ragnow out. That's a big loss. You're reading into that parts. Is that like a thing? It seems like everyone's piggybacked off that one comment. It's obviously a fact. Everybody knows it. but one person said it, all the coordinators are gone.

Like, is that that much of a big deal? Yes and no. I don't think it's going to be that much of a big deal on offense. It'll take, there's some bumps and bruises. They got behind the eight ball, and it is what it is. It was a really tough showing for them. And I think also Lions fans have been very fortunate the last couple years because they've had success at Lambo.

I'm telling you from first-hand experience, going into Lambo at any time of the year is not an easy place to play. Right. So in the lines I've done. well there as of recent. Three years in a row prior to this. But like prior to those three years it was 40 years of them. Of course. So there's a lot of that. And Green Bay was ready to play.

Yes. Now I'll say this. The lions still I still believe in Jared Gough. I still believe in their weapons. They're incredible. So I do think that they'll figure it out. Their new O.C. John Morton will figure it out. Where I get nervous for them and again the other thing we're talking about in Jay yesterday,

I personally don't think their defense is all it's cracked up to be. Even last year they'd be like, that's the injuries. The injuries, the injuries. And I'm like, okay, they are injured. And that obviously hurt them a lot. But even when they're not injured, like, is this an elite defensive unit? I would say they're kind of middle of the road. Well, here's another thing that would possibly concern me. They got the Bears at home next week. That becomes a must win. You can't start Owen, too. Yeah. Then they're at the Ravens, at home to the Browns, but at Bengals, at Chiefs, and then

bucks in town. Like, they got a really tough schedule. They've got an absolute bear. It's really tough schedule. And what's tough about that is that in this division, I mean, they could beat each other up, but like, you're going to have to win a lot. Look at last year. Right. Them in Minnesota went down to week 18.

Well, and it's a perfect segue into the game tonight, where Vikings bears, you got Ben Johnson making his debut at home, Soldier Field in Chicago. Vikings are minus one and a half. Yeah. J.J. McCarthy also making his debut as the quarterback of the Vikings tonight. It's a big swing game because Hazenbro took care of business yesterday. That was so, I could not.

Partsy, I'm sitting there last night. We call the pack game. We're all good. And I'm like, Ravens are out 15. We're going to win tomorrow. And we're going to develop the big lead early. And now our backs against the wall. I was nervous.

Outrageous. Al's brother was leaning Ravens. And I talked him off the cliff and picked bills. And he was sending me messages early. Oh, God. We're cooked. We're done. Ravens look on.

unreal, and I'm like, here we go. And I know, I'm waiting for, he came in and called your fraud again. Exactly. And I was waiting for, I was going to have to send him the text at the end. Sorry, my bad, bad pick. Yeah. And the win. And then he gets online, Dynasty never a tell.

Of course. He's the best. All right, you guys are on the clock here. Vikings minus one and a half in Chicago tonight. Partsy, I'm going to tell you where my head's at, but I'm telling you, if you want the other way, you can take it. Okay, I've gone back and forth on this. And what's unfortunate is there's so many unknowns.

What is Ben Johnson going to be like with Caleb Williams? I don't know. But there's a button here. Do you even want to know? There's an element of that. Do you even want to know? I don't. You see this article that's out about Caleb Williams

and people that have left the bears from last year, basically painting a picture that this guy was a disaster as a rookie? Yeah, I could see that. Yes. Don't try to, don't. I know what you just did. Nah, nah, no. I'm just pointing it.

Because, hang on a second. A disaster how? Like a pain in the ass? Doesn't matter. I shouldn't have piped it. No, just tell me. A disaster how. Yeah, yeah.

Well, a disaster how. What do you? This is like Joe Pesci. What am I funny? A disaster how. I asked you a question, Henry. I don't know. He said like work ethic wasn't great.

You know, wasn't necessarily listening to coaches. That's how, when I budged that film, I kind of think that he's one of those guys who, like, hey, I'm just going to do this. own way. It kind of jumps out to me. And I'm like, yeah, that's not really how the NFL works. Right. Now, all those coaches are gone. And he does have a new staff and Ben Johnson in particular. Anyway, my bad, I shouldn't have chimed in. You guys are on the clock. Brian Flores, obviously, de-coordinator for Minnesota. He's known for his crazy looks. You know, he's known for very exotic packages. I mean, Ben Johnson has a lot of familiarity with him.

But does Caleb Williams? Is Caleb going to go out there and execute it? I don't. don't know. I really don't know. And then the flip side is JJ. And I'll be honest, we haven't seen much of JJ. Obviously, there's going to be some learning curves there. But the fact that Kevin O'Connell has basically decided to stick with JJ over keeping

Sam Darnold, he obviously likes him. The guy's a quarterback guru. You know, outside of Sam Darnold late last year, Minnesota was pretty electric. I got to go. I got to go with my lean, I should say, not got to go, is definitely to take the Vikings. But if you've,

If you have an inkling to take the bears. Hayes just sold me with the comment. Like, I don't know if that was the motivation. I don't even know if it was true, but I just, I chewed it up. I love it. I don't know. Now I'm concerned because if you guys lose, you're going to blame Hayes from like that little. Pamper.

It's tampering. I'm worried about J.J. McCarthy. Like, what the most he all about? I agree. Like, this isn't a headline. Yeah. Like, this isn't Michigan, man. No, man.

But, like, again, when we sit here, even Friday, I know we missed the pick Friday. but I'm like opening day in Brazil like it's very hard for me to not very tough I don't call out a brutal pick no but it's like this one I don't know like I'm I'm an anti Caleb Williams guy right now I'm not a huge fan

the way he plays and I have no idea about J.J. McCarthy and now we go into head coaches and one of them has never been a head coach before so that's why I'm going with O'Conn all right you guys are you locking that in you're taking the Vikings Partsy bike up all right

It's gold. It's gold. All right. Al's brother has already chimed in. What is he saying? Rookie quarterback making his debut on the road on Monday night football in a divisional game. Tough Bears defense. What a brutal pick.

The Al's brother loves that we're on the Farris tonight. The guys won the Natty. He can handle a big moment. Lock it in. Big swing early, man. I don't want to be down too early. It's a big, big swing. All right.

Owen Wilson on the Vikings, laying the points. one and a half in Chicago tonight, Monday night football. All right, buddy. We'll catch you on the panel, TV tonight. Jay, the whole nine. Can't wait. All right, there he is. Luke Wilson. Owen Wilson, the pick is in. Pro-athletes salute. Seasoned gamer, or

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