OverDrive - Willson on Mahomes' incredible performance, the Bills' tough defeat and the three-peat search

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

TSN NFL Analyst Luke Willson joined OverDrive to discuss the headlines around the NFL, the Chiefs' dominance against the Bills, Buffalo's impactful 4th down plays, Josh Allen's performance in the game, Patrick Mahomes' greatness, the Eagles against the Chiefs and more.

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It really is sickening to do that. All right, go ahead. Speak your truth. You hate on Doogie the Cock. You hate on Doogie the Cock. You hate on Doogie the Cock. I had a sickening to get cut off by that, man. It really is sickening to do that. All right, go ahead. Speak your truth. You hate on Doogie the commissioner right now or what? I'll get to Doogie first. I'll get to Doogie first. And I'm going to be honest. First off, I was able to tune in to the beginning of the show, parts. Yeah, I thought it was very articulate, very beautiful piece offering, which you gave Al's brother. I won't be except, I won't be except those basketball NBA hoops 94 cards

that I found in my basement. You will. Yeah, and we are going to retire the hashtag we stole your soul and your card. Dude, there's a Michael Jordan card in here. Really? There's a Michael Jordan card in here. Yeah, but it's not a rookie card. Oh, it's still pretty significant man.

It's an all star game. There's a Larry Bird card in here. Yeah, I thought... Okay, go on. I thought he'd like them. They could be worth money. I said, you know what? Somebody, maybe it was me, maybe it wasn't. Somebody's Snipe this guy's cards, least I can do is give them whatever I've got lying around. Okay, I like that. We're having a go-card me instead of a go-fund me, so we're going to all try and reach out to our buddies. Yeah, we got to get to the bottom of this. Maybe you should reach out to a few of your former teammates and have them send you cards for Al's brother in the go-card me.

You know what, Noodles? I could do that. Hang on a second, Bart. How quickly do you think Russ Wilson would hang up the phone if you said, can you do me a favor and ship me a bunch of your cards for my friend Al's brother? I think you'd get radio silence immediately. What I would get, that's one option. Or I would get the text to another guy, to another guy, to another guy, like six managers removed,

then to being like some 23 year old kid like, hey, I'm Russ's assistant assistant assistant manager. Heard you were looking for a signed autograph card, man. That's another way I could see that whole thing falling out. Okay, all right. So you offered the piece. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. Yeah, I offered the piece. And go ahead go ahead offer the piece and hey

I've got to be very honest here Rightfully, so I took a lot of slack this year as did my partner for not winning the regular season rightfully So I will wear that every day first time the combination the great the greatest gambling combination of all time Oh dog and myself lost a regular season matchup. You know, hell has frozen over. We then go into the playoffs and we've been dominant. As much as I'd like to say it's all been us, the idea that you and your partner are stupid enough

to bet against Patrick Mahomes is we're gonna get into that. Yeah, oh, are we ever. Right. But then all of a sudden, Dovey's like, well, give it to you by 3 p.m. And clearly had the one point lead. 3 p.m. comes, I don't have, nothing comes my way, I'm waiting for it.

Noodles is the only man of integrity, he should be the commish, but I'll explain. Then all of a sudden, Saquon breaks a 60 yard putty, and then we get a, I believe it was a fumble, the Eagles, and all of a sudden now Dovey's like here's the rules and he's got like nine points available Gatorade colors coin flip Also now the totals bumped it. Nobody has got I don't think we've got in a total, right? I think we're one total correct. It is both. It's pathetic the way we've operated on that and

We're gonna have the total equal the same amount of points as the spread in the Super Bowl it was a bloodbath that it's done because he knew you guys were gonna get jammed from patty my homes which it did and he knew we were gonna win the spread there so he tried to juice points being like let's throw these guys a bone and I like doogie is he's a scumbag, but I do have a special place for scumbags in my heart. But we're not gonna after all the personal attacks from both sides, I mean I went and sold cars out of Al's brother's trunk. Oh god we can't bet on a Gatorade color, that's ridiculous. Okay well we got two weeks to figure out whatever you guys are willing

to accept. Al's brother and I will take on to figure what out whatever you guys are willing to accept Alice brother and I will take on anything. We don't care. You want to do 20 props 30 props It doesn't matter But there have to be a certain amount of points on the table where we can still get back in this you guys are only Plus three and it's the Super Bowl last year. There were ten points on the table. I believe so at a minimum We're gonna match that so we can have some sort of fireworks come Super Bowl Sunday I think that's man about this with us being in the lead with us being in the lead we should have more say on what's available and how it's

going to get but you can't you can't just put two points on the board or something like that i mean last year we had a big lead on you guys and we threw your lifeline you guys choked all over it and then you guys scumbag all over it did let us finish the trivia to give us a Super Bowl. Last year, nobody won the playoffs, don't think I forgot about that. And this year, we put our foot down. It's like the election, you guys try to steal it.

That's probably an inappropriate joke right now. But anyways, where I'm going with this is I don't care if it's 10 props. If you guys wanna go 10 props, I'll go that all day. But I don't really wanna get, let's say this thing comes down to it, because we've 10 props, I'll go that all day. But I don't really want to get, let's say this thing comes down to it because we've only got, it's a three point lead. Right. Okay. If you guys get the spread, if that's how we're doing again, I don't know what we're doing.

And we missed the total and now all of a sudden it's a one point lead and you win the coin toss. I'd rather this thing be like, okay, you pick your three props in the spread, we pick our spread in three props, or whatever it ends up being. I don't even care if it's first quarter bets. I'll do that too. Okay. All right, fine.

I'd rather avoid the Gatorade color in the coin toss or the length of the anthem. I want this to be mean potatoes betting. That's fine. We will handle that Doogies doogies a fun guy doogie thoughts Super Bowl Sunday trying to be inclusive for everybody You guys are too cool for that. We'll put you down for real cool for that. We're getting Okay, fine. Well, that's fine. Well, we'll reestablish whatever the rules are gonna be we got two weeks here hats are in production We are them Hearts they're gonna be glorious

Once rampage and the other ones we are them every quarter it changes Okay, let's get into these games. All right, and let's begin with some of the fourth down plays here. Something that you want brought to you by Boston Pizza, Canada's favorite sports bar, this January at BP, get delicious mouthwatering pastas starting at 11.99 every single day, enjoy the pastas you love at prices you can't miss, hustle in your local BP tonight. Which fourth down play will be remembered more

from the AFC Championship game? Allen's fourth and one that turned into a stop after the review or Kinkade's fourth and five drop the last offensive play of the game for the Bills. Which one will you remember? Which one defined the loss more for the Bills? The Kinkade drop. The Kinkade drop is what I may remember. I mean you remember them all. It's unfortunate because another play is going to go forgotten. The James Cook, Fort down touchdown was wild. He could toward his body and not touch the ground. I was like, Oh, like jaw dropping, jaw dropping stuff.

But that whole Fort down play at the end of the game, the fact that Josh Allen one got that ball off Two was able to locate Kincaid in three was able to throw a catchable ball. Was it the easiest catch in the world? No But it's a it's a play that I think King Cade's gonna want back, you know, that's not much dog. The guy just the truth Part of that was the guy just the truth. He catches that parts and that plays on every highlight reel the NFL has to offer for the next 25 years. That's right. Parts I'm curious before we get into the greatness of the Chiefs and how clutch they are, if you were hired as a consultant to go in the Buffalo Bills

kind of team room and somebody said to you what do we need to do to get by these guys what would your answer be? We need an elite elite pass rusher you know Von Miller's not it anymore I Von Miller I played against a guy and there was nobody more elite than Von but at the moment he's not it you. Greg Russo is not a top five class Russian guy, in my opinion. I look at how Buffalo played yesterday, and I don't love the narrative,

they didn't make enough plays, okay sure. They made a heck of a lot of plays. They made a heck of a lot of plays, and let's start with Josh himself. The one touchdown that I don't think wasn't on Fort Down, there was a third and nine, boom, he smacked that. There was a third and 13, boom, smacks that, balls out on time, everything's rolling.

Fourth down, they throw, the book makes a sick play for a touchdown. Fourth down, Curtis Samuel in the back of the end zone. Sick play, that ball is one inch away from being tipped up in the air and potentially picked instead of the touchdown. Defensively, you know, you just, you got really nothing on Patrick Mahomes

against an offensive line that is potentially weak. You look at the week before against Houston and part of the reason Houston was able to get after him was they got a ton of pressure on Patty Mahomes. So I I firmly believe if you get one or two pieces on the defense, you're there, you win that game. The next thing I'll say that I think Bill's fans need to be very careful of is trying to go get a perennial star on offense.

You know, you get this idea that, okay, let's go get a guy. And there's two styles of offensive coordinators in this league. There's the guys that will sit there and say, okay, my offense runs through this player. And basically, if it's Jamar Chase, for example, we're gonna get Jamar Chase, 12 targets a game,

we're gonna hope he catches 10, if he catches eight, it's still a good ratio. There's gonna be explosives built in there, and we're gonna give him all sorts of different routes. Which is, if you've got Jamar Chase, it it's great and that's how you like call and plays it's great we're gonna get them on screens we're gonna get them on goal balls we're gonna get them on all sorts of different stuff and then everything will come off of that but then you've got your Joe Brady's which I

and I want to be very clear I think the Joe Brady's of the world and Andy Reid's very similar with what he's got with Mahomes, is the more easier, more efficient way to score points. And that is take what the defense gives you. Okay, we're gonna run these plays, and if the route is Shakir's gonna be opening, we're throwing that.

If the play is, okay, Mario Cooper's gonna be opening, we're throwing that. You saw this with Joe Brady last year. He got in there as the OC and Stephon Diggs went down the hill as far as his production goes. He is not a guy that really wants to star. And again, the human element of it, and I remember this in Seattle

when we got my very good friend Jimmy Graham, he'll be the first guy to say it. We ran a Joe Brady style offense. Oh, it was Golden Ppaid. It was Doug Baldwin and his Jermaine Kirsch. And then all of a sudden we got Jimmy and it was so much pressure from the media. How are we going to get Jimmy the ball? How are we going to get Jimmy the ball? And our OC at the time, Darrell Bevel, that's not his comfort zone. He's not a let's get Jimmy the ball at all costs. I'm using the term Jimmy. It could be anybody. So I

want to warn Buffalo fans, I think when you do an honest assessment, you have an extremely great offensive line, extremely well-balanced offense, your three backs are very good, Cook was very, very good this year, and Josh Allen played the best football of his career, and he's probably gonna get MVP, I still believe that.

I don't think you touch that thing very much. You refine it, and you can add a couple pieces if you want. Your weakest position, and I'm not saying it's gonna drop the ball, but you probably want a little more production out of tight end. King Cade probably didn't develop as much as Bill's fans were hoping. But the key is, if you wanna get over this hump,

go get an absolute dog on the D line. Get a game changer, a Chris Jones. Who is that? Is it, like, I think they want to be at Oliver. You get a Chris, I mean, Chris Jones got a one-of-one, but somebody that's in that caliber, you look at Philly, they got Jalen Carter, this guy is playing out of his mind.

And now all of a sudden that defense becomes elite, because parts of the last thing I'll say about Buffalo is their defense was never there very middle of pack when it came to stats, except for one, which was takeaways. And they didn't really take the ball away yesterday. Got a very lucky takeaway because of the operation issue with my homes and the check on the handoff, but it's kind of live by the sword, die by the sword. They're great at taking the ball away.

And then they run into a guy like my homes. She was an elite elite player when it comes to protecting the football outside of that fumble yesterday. I think they had done like 11 straight games, though turnover and now you get jammed and you give up 32 points. So I think they're really one player away on defense. And that, that team's legit. That team's going to do it. I mean, they they're obviously already legit they'll get over the hump where you at with the the narrative of the referee screwed everybody and they're just on my homes and the chief side yeah noodles I think it's an absolute garbage take I think

it's a garbage garbage garbage take yeah yes is there a debate that it was a first down on the fourth and one? Yes, there is. I hated how they framed it because the up top umpire referee who had a marked pass, he doesn't get the final say. If the guy runs to the left, the guy with the better view is like, this is where I had it. I saw it. Okay. So that was just the TV getting everybody wound up. They went to New York and reviewed it. As much as I would love to come on here and say the NFL's rigged, it's not rigged.

It's just not, I don't want to burst anybody's bubble here, but the fact that they went to New York and were like, there's not enough to overturn this. And there wasn't. Like if you're doing an objective assessment, there was not enough to overturn it. And there wasn't. Like if you're doing an objective assessment, there was not enough to overturn it. And I could not believe the whole game, they struggled with the push push.

It's like they've been dominant. You've got the biggest, baddest quarterback in the world. Why can't we get six inches? You should be able to get a yard and a half. But that one, I get where you're frustrated, but I cannot believe that they even made it close The catch is a is a very weird one But per the rule book and that's why I think a lot of people aren't complaining it is a test for the Chiefs

And yeah, there's other issues and there's always gonna be a moment. Look at this hole. Look at that There's also moments where the bills got away with things There's a what I thought was a very quick but a false start on a big play in the red zone one of the touch pushes that did work I believe I thought was false started but again it happened so fast they missed noodles at the end of the day there's missed calls in every football game yeah the Bills did enough to win that game they needed to tighten up on fourth and one and get a good push from their offensive line in their absolute stallion of a quarterback, Josh Allen, they didn't. And they dropped the ball late, you know, and it's tough, but you just feel like if

the situation was reversed and it was Patrick Mahomes who missed the blitz and he rolled out, he threw it to Travis. He would have found a way to make it work. No Travis would have caught it. Yeah. through travel you know that's not a way to make a world travels would have caught it yeah that's i think one thing we haven't touched on is that i thought josh allen was good i didn't think he was great i thought that

by a great and that that needs to be addressed is that this guy is superman and he just simply he didn't do it yesterday and you know it's it he didn't make any place with his his legs but he didn't even run for anything last night he didn't get it yesterday and you know it's it he didn't make any plays with his his legs but he didn't even run for anything last night he didn't get into the end zone he made some nice throws he he kept them in the game at times but he kinda did with the more jackson did the week before

this it was okay right it was a little okay that's good it's good but if you want to be mo homes that arrowhead you gotta be super superman and and j Josh Allen wasn't that yesterday. Hey, so a couple of things. It's funny you say that because I thought the Bills for the most part dominated offensively in the second half. They got out there. They ran the football right.

Excuse me. Right down the field. Just like the Ravens the week before. Same thing. Yes. But what got weird for me, and the throw to Samuel was an elite throw, the throw to Mack Hollins was an,

I mean that throw was unbelievable. Great throw. With a touchdown there. Like, there's five guys on planet Earth that can do that, if that. But what was a bit, to kind of further your point, shocking to me, was the way the Bills start, you know, I just felt like the Bills had all this momentum

that all this stuff going their way. Everything coming into this thing was like, this is their year to get it done. In that first drive, there should have been two picks on that, you know? And then the sack and the fumble, the Bills had two turnovers on downs, they did not have any turnovers.

And there was a couple throws early where I just felt like, I'm like, this is kind of the Josh Allen from a couple years ago. Not the Josh Allen we've seen this year. And that would be disappointing to me. Because like you said, it's going to take everything you can to beat Patty Mahomes. And this is, I think, why some Bill's fans are a little more let down is in the

media this year, there's this narrative that, you know, the chiefs are vulnerable to chiefs of this chief or that I'm throwing out week 18 when they benched everybody, the chiefs are 15 and one and the only loss they have is against Buffalo where Josh Allen on a fourth and two made a miraculous run that was made the play of the season to put that game away and the idea that you're playing the same team that took that kind of effort except this time in the AFC Championship at Arrowhead like you can't every single small detail of that game matters. So that's

where to me it's just like okay you said it like what did Mahomes mess up the exchange with Pacheco outside of that like I can't really name anything and I know it's tough to like compare but what did my homes do poorly yesterday? That's what's scary, man. The guy never misses. Nothing. Like you can't bank on him having an off day. It doesn't happen.

Hartz, let me ask you this before we get you out of here, pal. Yes. Do you think we could fit on a t-shirt, hashtag we stole your heart and soul and your sports card? 100%. 100%. and your sports card? A hundred percent. A hundred, what I'm hoping to do, because listen, what I'm hoping to do, to be honest with you, Tarts,

and I'm gonna, I've never really bought a sports card in my life, you know, since I was a kid. But I'm waiting for one of these to surface on eBay. I'm, he's posted a few online. And I'm actually gonna buy it from the thief if he does. And then I'm hoping that we can get a photo of the card maybe like you and me like holding it up to also put on the t-shirt we got to find these cards yeah we got a really restock our brothers break down if he sees a pic of us holding the

stolen card well it's a it's a leader with our arms around the guy who stole it. Well, we don't like that guy That guy's a guy Whoever stole this exactly like you guys are making light of it and joking but the truth is like whoever it's just such a Godless greasy move like you want to breaking into stealing someone's cards and catch them in the right position you We're on team out of justice. We we are he knows I know how it is I've had three cars stolen out of my driveway it's no fun no kidding exactly well that's just that's the world that is insane anyway all right we got two weeks to figure this

out doogies on the case by next Friday we will have rules and regulations for how we're playing the Super Bowl. Is that alright for everyone else? I don't want to hear any complaining or anything. Whatever Dougie says will go as of next Friday. Done. Alright Luke. Alright, let's do it.

Alright buddy. There he is, Luke Wilson.