OverDrive - Willson on Taylor's MVP rise, Maye on fire and Commanders-Chiefs matchup

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

TSN NFL Analyst Luke Willson joined OverDrive to discuss the headlines around the NFL, the Packers' win against the Steelers, Jonathan Taylor in the MVP sweepstakes, Drake Maye's impressive season, Josh Allen and the Bills' ceiling in the AFC East, Hayes and Bro's pick for MNF and more.

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in the last series, too, we are in a fight and we have serious problems. We can take it back, but don't see him and be like, I don't know why everyone thinks the Jays are cheating. They have a notorious guy who came from me. They got one guy. They got one guy who's an affiliation. And I'm not, I don't think the Jays are cheating, but I get why the cremudgeons on the internet are trying to

point that angle. It is documented that George Springer did not partake in any of the monkey business. Man of integrity. Yeah. Man of integrity. Again, I don't think the Js are cheating whatsoever. I'm enjoying it's a historical run they're on. I think they got a legitimate shot tonight.

Hearts, what about the run we're on? It's not great. It's certainly not great. Is it like Pitts Unis last night? Pitts Unis were the worst thing I've ever seen. I think the most heinous part of it was the fact that the numbers are different colors. So the numbers on the front were white and on the back were black. But it's not as heinous as Hayes' bow tie right now. I can't go over.

This thing's elite, man. I can't get over it. It's beautiful. This is elite, man. This is custom. This is custom, dude. Is it Buster-only? Is Buster Olney the big...

Who's the baseball guy? Ken Rosenthal. Ken Rosenthal, that's it. Hazenthal. He's Hazenthal. He's Hazenthal. Bruce Garriock rocks it, too. Brousie just sent me a note.

He looked phenomenal. Dude, Bruce loves a bowtie. He's right by the set in Ottawa with his little table, and he's got the bow tie on. He's a big deal over there, Bruce. Bruce loves a bow tie. He did not send you a note. Take that back. He did.

He sent a note in. He said, it looks great. That's an accurate statement because he was calling me out last week. Because he said, I said, if the Jays made it to the World Series, I'd wear a bow tie. I don't even know why I said it. It was such a stupid, dumb conversation we were having that had nothing to do with anything. And I blurted it out, and naturally our fan base will not stop it. They're all over me about wearing the bow tie.

You've got to wear the bow tie. If you're not, you're a fraud. If not, blah, blah, blah. So I said, all right, I'm wearing the bow tie. He's a man of the people. It looks phenomenal. Man of his word. Luke, what would you rather wear that Steelers' uni or Hayes' bowtie?

Hayes' bowtie. I'll be honest, Hayes' bow tie. Thank you. Those units were so horrendous. And what got weird about it was the helmet. First off, what was unfortunate is the Steelers have one of the most iconic uniforms to begin with. Like the Steelers' uniform, I think, is one of the coolest logos, the helmet, the whole ensemble. So you go away from that, and then, like, the helmet was kind of modern.

It was like a matte yellow helmet. into this like just gross looking childish design of a jersey with different color numbers. It was brutal. As was the second half. You're backing off the Steelers parts, the shine coming off of them. The shine's coming off for sure. The defense has been, what's been unfortunate about them is that you kind of thought it might be Aaron eventually,

and I didn't think Aaron played great yesterday, but he wasn't brutal. The defense for two weeks in a row has been atrocious. And it's just such a strange one because, you know, you talk to any Steelers fan. The last few years, it's been, man, our defense makes a lot of plays. They create turnovers. Do a lot of good things. Keep us in games.

But we've got Kenny Pickett at the helm. We've got Mason Rudolph at the helm. We have Justin Fields or Russell Wilson. And Aaron's, you know, playing at a decent level, obviously not an MVP level, but he's doing okay. And it's just the defense can't stop anybody. Not creating turnovers, not doing anything. Tough to watch, really. Doesn't it feel like with Tomlin, there's half the fan base that Tomlin is a legend and can do no wrong,

and there's some people that basically say, like, this guy stifles offense no matter who's there, and we're always going to be a team that's like one or two games above 500. Like, I don't know. What's the correct read on Mike Tomlin, and is there a certain ceiling that the team can only hit with him being the head coach? You know, Frankie, I think the tough part of Tomlin is that for the, last X amount of years, they seemingly haven't, they've been very stagnant. And that's one of those things where you're like, man, you know, we're grateful that we're in the conversation every year. We're grateful that we're in the playoffs or on the cusp of the playoffs. But

at any point in the recent future, have you ever sat there and been like, man, this Pittsburgh Steelers team is going to be real dangerous in the playoffs? You know, if the playoffs start tomorrow, they win the division. And I think most of us on our card would be like, they're going to get absolutely waxed in the first round of the playoffs, the way they played the last few weeks. So I do think that Tomlin is on a bit of a hotter seat than what most people would think.

And again, I point the finger at the defense this year. If the defense was playing at a better level, they don't need to be an unbelievable unit. But if they're playing at a better level, they've probably got this division wrapped up with a bow on it. But now they've let everybody back in, including the

Ravens, because the Bengals puked all over themselves. Granted, it was a tough packer's team, but a game you would have liked the Steelers to win. And now you look in, Lamar's allegedly coming back. We'll see how that whole thing plays out, but there are only two games back of the division

lead. And everyone is in Chambles. Well, conversely, the team on the other side of the field last night, frustrating first half, yet the second half was an absolute clinic offense on both sides of the ball. I thought that Parsons sack early in the third

quarter basically set the tone for what was going to happen the rest of the game on a Pittsburgh offensive side of things. But having Watson back is big because he can burn. You know, they've got guys who can take the top off the defense. And as a result, Tucker Kraft, man, he just, he runs routes, catches everything, and he puts up numbers. And, like, I still don't think they have a true bona fide number one receiver. I don't trust Watson.

He's hurt all the time. Golden didn't get many touches last night. Dobbs is okay, but he's not like a superstar. but I'll say this, man, Jordan Love, man, was that efficient last night? He was slinging the pill last night. And very accurate. Very accurate. He never throws picks, man.

Yeah, and honestly, his off-scheduled stuff, I thought was pretty phenomenal as well. We're seeing your MVP ballot, halfway through the year. Where's Jordan Love? Fifth, six. Halfway through the year, if you want my honest ranking at this point, now you guys are going to shred me for this. Drake May. Drake May is two for me. Drake Mays, too.

And I know who's first. Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor. Taylor. Taylor over Jones. Is he in there? He's probably three or four. Bakie's in there, but Baker's kind of had a couple of rough two weeks.

Indiana, I mean, here's my thing, parts. Indiana Jones, if you look at that team, the best record in football right now, but who's the most valuable player in that team, you can't not say that it's Jonathan Taylor. I mean, he's on pace for a historic season right now. So it's Saquan 2.0. His numbers look like they're going to be better than Seqon's last year, including way more touchdowns. Now, part of that was because of the tush push

and all Jalen Hart's stealing kind of some of the thunder. But you look at Taylor right now, I think he's got 12 rushing, two receiving. He's at 850 rush yards through eight games. Like, this guy's on pace to break all the records known to mankind here. But parts, I just got one quick question for you, and I know we've done this problem. probably five times, but what is

Daible and the boys, like when they're in the coach's room, eating wings and having beers and stuff, like, do they not look at that guy and say, how did we butcher Indiana Jones? Like, what do they say? And Sequin. Well, Sequin's a whole different story, but we

carve Danny Dimes for years, Hayes. Carves. Yes, you're right. And rightfully so. Rightfully so. And to me, you know, beyond what happens with Jackson Dart, and Jackson Dart right now is making a lot of plays off schedule. The Danny Dimes thing in itself is the biggest indictment on dable known to mankind.

And I would say what makes it that is not so much that even Danny Dimes is playing at an MVP clip, but it's the fact that he was horrid. You know, if Danny Dimes was okay in the Giants organization, they're like, oh, this guy's okay, but we're looking for somebody to get us over the hump. But it was like, he was brutal there. We all thought, like, his career was over. He's going to maybe play a couple of years of backup and be done. He goes and beats out of Anthony Richardson, which obviously is not maybe the toughest thing to do.

Maybe it is. We don't know. And is now arguably, you know, the best quarterback in the league through eight weeks. Now it does help with Jonathan Taylor, but it is a huge indictment on Dave. Yeah, and you know that certain teams that always screw it up, New York teams do it. Cleveland. Cleveland's big one. Chicago.

I can tell you there's teams that are circling Caleb Williams saying, please cut them. Cut them in two years. We'll take them and we'll see if we can make it work. I don't know if he'll find it. But that's where I'm reluctant to jump on Williams, that he's a bust. He's the problem when this is what Chicago does.

Like this is what they do. It doesn't matter who their coach is. It doesn't matter how many wide receivers they get or which tight end they pick. They draft the tight end every single year in the draft. Oh, we got new linemen this year, and we brought in a pass rush. It doesn't matter. They can't do it. It is.

They cannot do it. Chicago is very bizarre because on paper that team is loaded. Yes. You bring in Loveland. You got O'Doonese from last year. DJ Mortimer is still a premier guy. You know, Swift in the backfield is, let's call it top 10, top 12 runner. Put up decent numbers this year.

Pretty good. What is the problem? Last year the defense was great. Like you said, they got the pass rush there. and it's like how do you come out and again that was a game obviously we lost and I'm going to take my licks here in a sec but I'm watching it and everyone literally everyone has been destroying the Ravens defense yes I'm watching this game and I'm going this isn't even close we were lucky to even have a sweat at the end with a seven and a half spread that game should have that game is like a yeah

a throwaway game where you're like you don't even have to worry about it. Don't even have to, I'm like, yo, this is a, they're giving them seven and a half points. I took seven and a half with Lamar potentially points. And Dugie almost did everything he could for you guys, and we'll get to that in a moment. But before we bring in Al's brother, who is clairvoyant right now, this guy is seeing the board. He's got 40, 40, you saved him. You saved him. One game.

It wasn't a save. It was a gut instinct that that's why we're such a great team right now. but this Drake May story I think is a lot of people down in Buffalo because Ed Oliver that's big man if he's done for the year that's huge doesn't look good doesn't look good doesn't look good that Oliver could be done May I keep waiting for him to kind of come back to reality a little bit the pets have such a soft schedule like they've got such a layup schedule yes the Jets obviously stink Miami stinks it's it's a two horse race

I would still handicap it as Buffalo the favorite to win that division but it is close to a coin flip right now where do you stand on that race i would lean patriots to be honest but it's very very tight i have a lot of respect for what brable's doing over there you said it drake may is he's potentially MVP and he's what's the what's the biggest factor is it the step drake may took or the coach i think both connected i think it's connected but you can have a great coach i think it's the step if i'd lean on one i I would say Drake May. Again, that was even yesterday.

Not an easy defense to go against. Took him a little bit to get going the whole unit. And all of a sudden they're ripping around. And Brable is a defensive guy. He's going to have that unit playing tough defense. They're going to be a hard team to beat week in and week out. And I do like the weapons offensively. Are they my favorite unit in the league?

No. But Diggs has certainly turned back the clock. He's looked very good. There's been moments, especially against the bills, a couple weeks back, where he's looked incredible. There are two tight ends. it doesn't get much better than that for they got Hooper as the backup

and Hunter Henry they don't use them a ton but still I would say a premier pass catching guy you know and then they've got kind of a crew of guys that are playing fundamentally sound somewhat of the Patriots of old here you know well and McDaniels are still running the offense there right and it looks very very smooth

again I tip my cap yesterday to the bills not trying to take anything away from them and you know the Hoyt obviously Canadian guy coming off the suspension look great But you said it, you take Ed Oliver out of this defense, and it's a problem. The defense is not a strong suit to begin with. We'll see what the official injury designation for Oliver is,

but I get very worried when it's a bicept and you can't come back. Generally not good. So now you look at it, and even yesterday, the O-line, both tight ends, really all three tight ends, but Kincaid's not as heavily involved in the run stuff. but they shredded Carolina on the ground, wildly impressive. But do I think that they're going to walk in and shred Kansas City on the ground? You know, if they got in a couple weeks here, I don't. You know, I think they'll be able to run a bit, but not like yesterday.

That was a career day for everybody. And now all of a sudden you go into this situation where it's like, hey, we need guys to get open or everybody eats or whatever you want to call it. and like Keon Coleman was, you know, another day where he's kind of non, you didn't really exist out there for very much of the game. A couple catches in the second quarter, or second half, excuse me. Kincaid didn't have a great one. Shakir's been kind of their safety blanket, but who's the guy they rely on? And the reality is that the bills want to make a run.

It's the same thing we've been saying for the last five years. Josh has got to be Superman, which he can be. You know, he's electric. The guy's one of the best players of all time right now. Okay, but talent-wise, but it's just not my favorite way to go into games basically saying, hey, our defense is thin, it's not an elite unit, our wide receivers are not an elite unit, but we've got Josh, and if Josh plays out of his mind, we'll beat the heck at anyone. It's like, again, he would figure they would address some of the stuff in the offseason,

but clearly they did. They won a different way. Call me out. How's brother? That's great to see you. It's great to see you. Oh, look at that tune. Forget. Forget, call me out.

What the hell are you wearing, man? He's got a white bowtie. What do you mean? Dude, brothers. We got a bow tie on me and a patsy. Is that the farfali pasta you got there? He used to get to your shirts. This was sent to me by one of our whale pals from Shanghai.

Singapore is not just calling now. Shanghai has entered the chat. Sent me a nice bowtide to wear on air today. I'm glad you're fielding those calls. I can only take it from so many places. I got a call from Brazil earlier today. I said, guys, stop it. We're not doing it.

We're not going anywhere. We're wearing bow ties. We stick together. You look phenomenal. I was brother. Phenomenal. Me. Look at you.

You got the whole setup. I mean, hey, look good, play good, play good, feel good. You know what I mean? That's right. What's the saying, little Dion Sanders? I mean, we are looking real good right now, Hazy-B. Oh, we're up by a touchdown. By a touchdown.

By a touchdown. We have the chance at the first immaculate week in a long time. Just make the pick and end the said. No one cares anymore. Like, people are getting tired of you guys. It's kind of disturbing, Alas, brother, the way these two losers are kind of operating. Like, they're really, really bad attitudes on the two of them. They call the players-only meeting yesterday after the loss.

I mean, how'd that go? go, fellas. Well, the reality is here, this is a situation. It's seven, could be eight, could be six by the night. You know what week it is, Alsbrough? Do you know what week it is in the NFL? Week eight. You know how many weeks there are?

Lots of weeks. Lots of weeks, my friend. We're not even halfway through the year. Let's say we're down eight. We got nine weeks to go after this. We've got to pull back parts. We've got to pull back one per week, and you don't think they're going to puke all over themselves. This is a complete fluke.

I want to put this on the table right now. It's 520. What is it? What day is it today, guys? 27th. This will be the biggest collapse. The chakouterie dump all day. The chakouterie dump is about to start. Whether it's tonight or whether it's next week,

you guys are going to collapse. All right. And we're coming. I got to lock it in. I got to own it. Go ahead and you can respond on behalf of teammates. Now, Joe from the bridge is the enemy. I will be honest. That whole shenanigan on Friday. I'm locked and loaded. Can't hear anything. I'm like, I can hear you fine. Joe's like, I can't hear anything. I'm like, what's going on here, Joe? Then Hayes kicks us off the show. I'm ready to go four minutes later. This is text to the picks in. Well, I do

think that we would have talked to you out of some of those brutal picks. Brutal picks. Well, they were terrible picks. I mean, obviously, the Steelers against Green Bay and under the lights. There was no way the Packers weren't winning big last night. You were getting, come on. You're At half, you were thinking that way? At half, you were thinking that way? And furthermore, and this is where I take issue with Doogie, putting the Ravens-Bairs game on the line without any understanding of who was playing quarterback was Duggy Patel trying to do his best to raid the two of us. I disagree. I think what happened was once it came out, the NFL rigged the game so that that's why it covered the original spread. It went the opposite way.

There is some conspiracy theories out there right now. not what we're hearing right house brother out of vegas when we talked to whales in vegas that's not what they're hearing don't lose this one boys because we'll get the thursday night or i feel great it was thursday the only possibility for us to take our foot off the gas is if we get distracted house brother because we're getting invited to all these events we have again whales from coast to coast to coast trying to fly us in and we get too big for our britches we don't want that and we won't do that right we're too humbled gentlemen we look good we we feel good let's make a pick what is the line out right now is it chiefs minus 10 and a half

10 and a half. 10 and a half against the Washington commanders. Al's brother, take the floor. Where's your head out here? It's a large spread, Hazie B, and favorites are only one and six against the spread this season

when favored by more than a touchdown. However, that one cover was by the Kansas City Chiefs last week against the Vegas Raiders. And when you look at what this offense has done recently, that Mahomes' magic seems to be back. He's the MVP frontrunner

over on Fanduil, Rishi Rice, back in the fold. Second week back into the offense. He's reading this up a script. He's reading up a script. Look at his eyes. 32 points a week they're averaging. I got tons of stats for you here, boys. The commanders, their defense has been utter trash. They give it up over six yards per play and dead lasting yards per completion. You look at my homes. What does he do? Pass the ball. Pass the rock.

He's going to attack it downfield. This offense is going to put up points. And I don't see the command. Anders, possibly staying close without Jane Daniels, who's out. Marcus Marriota, he can't put up 20 points with this offense against that defense. No shot. I see the Chiefs blowing him out. The three no against the spread at home. Washington, one on three in the road.

It's a big number, but I think we rock with Mahomes and company and lay the points here, ACB. It's a big number. It's a very big number, man. It's a number that makes me uncomfortable, and it feels as if money's going towards Washington here with the spread dropping. but I have an inkling that you're on to something else, brother. I have an inkling that you're on to something because, you know, I'm worried this.

Dan Quinn, man, the book's out on your boy Quinn. He's got to turn his hat around. He's got to turn the hat around, but Andy Reid, if so, he'll bring out his face mask and he'll take a, take you, you know, flashback out. I actually kind of like this, man. Dan Quinn's a guy. He's a big rally guy, big motivational guy. But he's standing at Marcus Mariotta, man.

That's fair, but when it's, what's Mariotta to you? When it's a 17-point game, I mean, they've got the ball back with Mariotta with a buck 30 to play. Don't think Dan Quinn's taking his foot off the gas, boys. Okay, backdoor cover from Mariotta and Quinn. That's possible tonight. But I'll tell you what, down in Washington, before we locked this in, they're starting to freak out because of the RG3 Daniels comparisons.

You see Jaden's mom jumping on Twitter and kind of snapping about that. Because R.J. and Jaden, that first year was unreal. The second year, it fell off a cliff, and injuries started piling up, and the team stunk and I think it's unfair to Daniels to believe that comparison but man they're jaded down in Washington that's only because of the market man because if he was playing anywhere else no one would pull that comparison it's just they've seen the history lesson on that before absolutely too much scar tissue they're on edge down there in Washington all the time and it's too bad because Daniels was so great but he just hasn't been able to play enough this year all right

out's brother. You and I, we ride. We ride from Toronto to Singapore and everywhere in between. Whales and cheetahs. Barts. Let's start tonight. We'll claw away back. There's no quittes or cheaters. Chauncey Hayes and Terry Roselle's brother.

These bozos with the bowtie, one's made out of white paper, and the other one, I don't know where he found it. It's embarrassing. Like parts. We're on the comeback trail. We're on it. It starts tonight. It's the finest China fabric. on the market. By the way, real quick, real quick, Al's bro. I just got a message. Al's Brow's stat is wrong. The Colts were minus 14 yesterday and covered.

Let's go, baby. He's got bad info. Let's end the seven. This guy's info is trash. This is my concern, man. Let's go. We tear out the ball because Shanghai's calling now. So now you're going to read a script that doesn't have real info? This guy's fake news. Now we're getting calls. What are we talking about? That's bad means that teams later in the the season, our favoring far more often. You said one team has done it, and it's been the Chiefs. Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about. Prior to last week, there were 0 and 6. Now it's 2 and 0. It's not last week. It's this week. It's this week. Maybe let's go.

Trending in our direction. That's right. Like yesterday. Let's go. Trending in our direction. I'm getting a call from London right now. England. I got to take this. This is a serious whale over there. I was brother, I'll let you know what he offers us. I'm sure it's going to be something significant. All right, boys. Best of luck. night not that we need it else brother you look great feel great play great make picks great i could go on and on and on alice brother hayes and bro we're on the chiefs tonight laying the points the newest tracks and the next big thing baby what was that and your first place to hear it all i heart new music your digital station for brand new drops fresh vines and tomorrow's bangers

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