OverDrive - Willson on the Bills' inadequate showing, the Colts and Chiefs' matchup and Week 12 picks

Episode Date: November 21, 2025

TSN NFL Analyst Luke Willson joined OverDrive to discuss the headlines around the Bills' disastrous performance against the Texans, Houston pouncing on Josh Allen, Joe Burrow making his return, the Colts and Chiefs' showdown, Week 12 picks and more.

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You can't do it No, no, no, sorry I'm tempted What's up boys? Good to see you Luke, good to see you you um how you feeling plus nine big cover for your texans big cover parts they try to they try to bait us and taking the bills we're pro athletes parts there's no way we don't rent cars and we're seeing the board we are seeing the board right now i know and just a correction there you said the

sentence wrong we don't rent crappy cars i did i got to make sure i'm on that i got to make sure him on that. All right, so, Luke, you guys are feeling a lot better than Bill's fans today. I mean, not the best performance. Josh Allen was under constant duress, sacked eight times. He was just running around for his life last night. That Houston D is nasty, but the Bill's seven and four, the division might be gone. How do you feel about Buffalo at this moment?

You know, A.K., the reality is you could get into, like, the weeds of this thing, but they were thin on defense to start the year, and they've lost. their best players. You know, Ed Oliver, the big signing of Michael Hoyt, obviously, as well. It's tough to come around that. And you were watching right now, Spencer Brown, he's an unbelievable offensive line, but he's playing with one arm yesterday. And you've got to respect the toughness, but he couldn't get it done against a great, great pass rush from Will Anderson, Jr., with only one shoulder. So this defense, the Texans, are real. And I know that right now everyone's cold on the Texans. And there's, you know, you've got to look at

the recent success they've had, where They started 0 and 3, I believe, and they've won 6 of 8, and their defense is statistically the best defense in the league. I will say this, as far as the bill's defense, when they're banged up like this, I have found in the past that McDermott can really game plan and help them out. So the short week also, I thought, jam the bills. That's the one silver lining.

I do think McDermott, for better or for worse, is a very good defensive mind. So having a full prep week would have helped them against the Texans. it's tough sled men it like they don't have the johnnies and joes you know everyone wants to talk about the ex and o side and joe brady where it's like you know king kate's out so who are you throwing the ball to honestly keon and colman's a healthy scratch it's like you got calil shakir and that's pretty much it after that it's just a group of guys right now parts where does the head coach where does the head coach fall in all of this because i work with somebody doing leaf games who's adamant that he thinks that the Buffalo Bills need to change a coach.

Like, I think he's a good coach. He has been there a long time. He can't seem to break through with the big one. But what are your thoughts on that? I see where he's coming from. And my thing right now is, you know, you go to Brandon Bean, and it's like, oh, we think we can win with the roster we have. And they can win, but not consistently.

You know, the margin of air is very thin. So I would love to know if I could be in that organization, Who is telling the GM that? Who is telling the front office that they don't need to go out and get someone? And again, yesterday was another prime example. They played like garbage, but they're still in the game. There's a moment there where they're down seven. Wouldn't it have been nice to have Rashid Shaheed on a big play?

Or perhaps you overpaid for Waddle. You know, wouldn't have been nice at some point yesterday that even though you would have had to overpay for them to have Quinn and Williams on your D line. Like, that was a crucial game. and AK, you said it, where it's like, how are they going to win the division? And I asked Dave Naylor, by the way, unbelievable, Dave Naylor, the nail guy, love that guy, but I asked him on the show after the game. He's the best, okay?

And this was a spur of the moment. They just stuck him, like, Luke, you're going to ask Naylor questions. He had no idea was coming. And I said to him, I'm like, who do you feel good against right now playing if you're the bills on the road in the playoffs? And he had the only correct answer, which is the Pittsburgh Steelers. and there's a legitimate opportunity for Pittsburgh to blow this division lead, and now you're looking at, on the first round,

you're going in and playing Baltimore. You have the second worst run defense in the NFL, and in round one, you're potentially going to see, potentially, Lamar Jackson and Derek Henry. There's no Bill's fan that feels good about that. One week, Bill's fans are like, bring anybody on. It doesn't matter, or not Bill's fans, but analysts like yourself would say they should they have a big win it's like bring anybody on they shouldn't be afraid of anybody

and now this week it's like they should be the Steelers it's that's a that's a that's a crazy flip-flop it's a crazy flip-flop but here's the thing it's like we all it was after the kC game the kC game you're sitting there and you're like whoa and i said on the thing i'm like that might be the most statement when i have ever seen buffalo make okay but since then okay and this is a what have you done for me lately they've gotten more injuries they've lost a couple brutal games and like everyone's big oh do you see Josh scored six touchdowns against who the bucks I love Baker Mayfield I really do

but the bucks are not a Super Bowl ready team right now especially with Bucky Irving and whatever he's got going on there and their defense outside of Vita Vaya is average of best Vita really saves that whole situation so like it depends what we're talking about we're like again after the KC game I could not get over how great that win was

But since then, you have not been that team. And I don't put a ton of stock into the performance against Tampa Bay because you're not going to be seeing Tampa Bay defenses in the playoffs. That's just the reality. So, like, you hear reports after the game last night that the zippers from the, like, equipment bags being packed up are louder than the conversations that are being had between the players after a game. Like, that's quiet, man.

And listen, things can turn around. sure, but you've been in a lot of locker rooms. When it's like that, and it's like a morgue after a game, is it not way less likely for things to turn around when that's the kind of morale that everyone's walking around and carrying? Yes, yes, Frankie. It's much less likely, and the only cure is winning. There's no hugs, oh, we're still boys.

It's like, I don't care how toxic or how friendly or what part of the spectrum you're on, The only thing to cure this is winning. And again, you go from the ultimate high of absolutely smack in Kansas City to a 17-point loss to the Miami Dolphins. Let me say that again, a 17-point loss to the Miami Dolphins. You go toe-to-toe with the bucks, and if it wasn't for a late turnover, that game looked like it was going to be who has the ball last. And then you come out here, and I'll be very frank with you guys. I thought the bills were lucky to keep the score as it was.

Like, that was a four-point win that felt like for the Texans. It felt like it was a 21-point win, eight sacks, three turnover takeaways for the Texans, and a turnover on down. Like, it was utter domination. And once again, boys, I want to bring this up, of the 19-point scored yesterday by the bills, seven of them were on a kick return. So on a short week, again, you guys. put that in there. Buffalo showed up to Texas to, you know, Houston, Texas

and scored 12 points offensively, and one of them was a 45-yard scamper from James Cook. So you got a big play, and that was pretty much it. So, Luke, Bill's fans are trying to paint the positive picture that, yes, they're not going to win the division, but there's a chance they avoid KC, they avoid

Baltimore in round one, and potentially go to Denver or Indie or New England. Do you like Buffalo's chances going into one of those spots on Wildcard weekend because you can make the case that might be an easier matchup than maybe hosting Kansas City or hosting

Baltimore. I would agree with that case. I would agree with that. I don't want to host whoever gets Casey, I don't care what their record is. I don't care if Casey sneaks in with the 7 seed. Nobody wants to see Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes the playoffs. That's just a fact. So I agree with that. But my point would be, you know,

if you have to go to Indianapolis, you have an awful, a horrible run defense. If you really look at this. Do you want to see Jonathan Taylor? The guy might be MVP of the NFL this year at running back. So I don't love that matchup. Now you go down the board here. Denver, the second best defense in the NFL. Did we see how we fared against the first best defense in the NFL? I don't love that matchup either. Now, I like the matchup as far as, you know, it's easier on the defense, but that is not a matchup you want to see if you're Buffalo right now. So again,

and I think the only one you're feeling good about, okay. about is going into Pittsburgh. Yeah, and they have Rogers with the wrist. Correct. Into Pittsburgh, if that's the case. If you have to go into Baltimore, now we're talking a very different story. So Joe Burrow looks like he's going to return this week.

He's been out since the early part of the season, had surgery. Dude, what does that even mean, though, A.K., what is their record right now? They're three and seven, and that's my question for, look, I mean, this guy's always hurt. The chances to make the playoffs almost. zero. They probably have to win out. Why

bring back Burrow, considering the circumstances? I think that it's one of those things, guys, where if you're a competitor and he's healthy to go, he goes. You pay him this money. You don't pay him this money to nurse whatever. His ankle, his wrist, his shoulder, whatever injury he potentially might incur.

You come out here and it's like, listen, he's a starting quarterback. We need better vibes right now. We need more reps. If he's healthy, If he's healthy, you play him. You can't play in this league being like, okay, he could play, but we're not going to because we don't want him to get hurt.

That's just not a thought process of a coach. You've got to compete. Bottom line. If the Colts beat the Chiefs on Sunday, what does that tell you about the Colts? The Colts beat the Chiefs on Sunday, that tells me a lot. You know, and the fact of, there's been times right now where I've kind of looked and it's like Indiana Jones or Indianapolis Jones has been kind of fading a bit and it looks like Danny Dimes has been rearing his head where if they can come out and get a winning, it's a desperate, desperate Chiefs team.

Like the Chiefs are going to be firing everything at them. And these guys know how to play in the big game. And the reality is for Kansas City, every game from here on out is a big game. Like one or two more losses and they're done. You know, they're not going to the playoffs that they continue to lose. So if the Colts can manage that storm, beat Kansas City,

stop Patrick Holmes. And on the flip side, Steve Spagnol's defense is going to be reared up to stop Jonathan Taylor's run game. I think that they'll still have success and it'll be a good matchup, but I could be wrong, but I don't think John Taylor is going to run for 200 yards,

like he's pretty much done on everybody else. Okay. So now all of a sudden, it's like if Danny Dimes can beat, Kansas City with his arm. To me, that'll be a big statement. All right, so let's get to the picks. Hazenbro, plus nine, after the very astute selection of the Texans last night for team

Owen Wilson, very astute. Listen, I'm rooting for you guys. I love Now We Go. It's one of my favorite things. It's very exciting, and I want to hear it a lot more going forward. Now, Al's brother has sent in a video from his cruise. I believe it's from a beach, and Hayes and Bro have two picks this week. This week they have the Chiefs and the Colts.

and the Rams and the Buccaneers. Why don't we play the video that Al's brother has sent in? Oh, God. What's going on, fellas, coming to live from the Ocean Cay Reserves off the coast of the Bahamas, sipping on some Bahama mamas. And it's time to get back to business. We've got to start making some picks here, Hazy Pete. Only being up nine, not good enough.

It's not the standard that we have set this season. So let's get back on the winning ways. I like the Colts plus three and a half tonight against the Chiefs this weekend. I mean, they're one of the best offenses in football. Jonathan Taylor is absolutely killing on the ground. I think it's an Indiana Jones type game, not Danny Dimes. They can keep it to within a field goal against the Chiefs. Let's take the points and take the Colts.

Sunday Nighter, I like the Rams here. They're 9-1-1 against the bucks against the spread. It's a high number, six and a half. But look, that is the number one offense in football right now. Maddie Stafford playing at an MVP pace. That secondary is brutal. So I think he'll be able to pick them apart with Pooka and Devonte Adams put up points, and I don't see Baker keeping up.

So I like the Rams, I like the Colts. Hayes and Bro, let's go. Dude, how much money does that guy make at TSN? I'm not, like, I'm not squaring around. That guy, yeah, that guy, I'm just a nosy person, I guess, but I see people like that that are just four to seven, 10-day cruises a year, and it's like... So there's another video of Al's brother

making the picks shirtless. Let's play it. No, I'm just kidding. That video does not exist. Well, I actually was going to say, like, do you think take one was done tarps off? And then, like, his girlfriend was like, maybe we should do one with your tarp on just in case.

The CRTC would pull this show off the air really quick. I know Overdrive is everywhere, but if Al's brother's doing shirtless picks, I mean, I don't know. There's only one way to find out. Maybe the next screws he's on. So those are the picks from Al's brother. Probably at least five drinks.

I'll say this. I'll say this, parts. We need one of those two. We've got to capitalize. What do we say? We've got to chip away. We've got to go two for three. So we need one of those to pick, one of those not to.

And you look at that, we're on Mahomes and Baker Mayfield. I don't hate it. One of those two guys has to cover. Baker Mayfield response game. Response game for the bucks. They have to respond after that nonsense. I agree. That's a big number.

It's a big number, too. parts. Yeah. I agree. Look at the opportunity for Tim O. Wilson. You guys could go full 283 Patriots here,

epic comeback. Yeah, we could. Just think about the... If we do that, A.K., we will never stop shouting. Now we go. Yeah. Yeah.

My buddy is starting to text me that. Now we go. Hashtag. You've got to get tattoos. If you come back and win, you guys got to get matching. Now we go tattoos somewhere on your body. I'll go Tyson and get it

across my forehead. I do not. not care. I do not care. If we come back from this disaster, I will get hashtag now we go across my forehead. Yeah. I think this is a movement. Now we go. CFL's

over. CFL's over. I'm locked in. I'm locked in. All right. So you are on, you guys are Timone and Wilson are on Philadelphia and Dallas. So that is your pick this week. Why don't you take us through it? So I'll tell you it seems like a no-brainer, okay.

And I am a little torn on it. I'll tell you what scared me. I'll tell you what scared me was that I was like, okay, we're taking Philly. And then I go on Fandual, and I'm like, no way. So taking Philly on the spread right now on Fandual, Canada is plus money. Like usually it's a minus 110. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And I think I'll get it out right now, but I think it's like minus 122 or something to go the other way.

And I'm like, how am I missing? Like, what am I missing here? And to be honest with you, I could have said the same thing about last night. I'm not taking the bait parts. I think you're on the same team as me here. Listen, so what? The Cowboys went out and beat the Las Vegas Raiders. They also got shell-shocked by Jacoby Brissette in the Cardinals a couple of weeks ago.

Yeah. Because they lost by four. I know it's a divisional game. They lost by four earlier in the year. I do think it'll be tighter than what we think. But I can't sit here and tell you that I want to take Dallas. even with the new guys in the team. I can't do it, parts.

If you want to, I'll ride with you, but I think we take the Eagles minus three and a half. I would really believe it. And the ball off to Saquan all day long and just let him plow through that. That's what we're doing. We're going with the Eagles. Yeah, we're taking the Eagles, 100% parts. But here's AK, maybe you can make sense of this. Plus three and a half is minus 122 on Fanduel.

Money's coming in on doubts. It's one to one. Yeah, that's what it is. It's inching closer to a field goal, yeah. Does it weird? Does it feel like guys in Philly are like almost bored? Like, guys are not pissed at Jalen Hertz, but you start to hear things like, I don't know, the way he throws the ball is not the most entertaining for the players involved. Like, are they just winning too much? Are they bored?

I don't get that. No, Frankie, I think that it's more of a schematic thing. And I'm not going to get bogged down too much of the minutia, but you look at the combo that they have with Devonte Smith and A.J. Brown. these guys should be like I'm going to make a hockey reference not to the exact because obviously McDavid's one of the greatest ever but like it should be like a McDavid dry-sitle kind of vibe like we should turn on the highlights and those two guys should be like what did they do this week you know what combination came in Devon like what amazing play route catch every week they're that good like Devonte Smith I'm telling you is that good at football so is

AJ Brown. He's a physical specimen. But instead they're like relegated to like let's throw it up and hope we catch a 50-50 ball. And I think for both of them, it's just gotten to the point where I'm like, we're just sick of this stuff. Like we're not asking for difficulty

and I don't put all the blame on hurts. Like I think, you know, their O.C. Kevin Petulow is also kind of like in limbo with what he wants to do as an offense. So I get the frustration. I really do because these That team, like there's no world in which Detroit's defense should hold that team to what it was, 16 points last week.

Yep. No world. Absolutely no world. It's weird, man. You have Sequin? Yeah. This is a team that's having so much success, like the record-wise, but it seems like they have so much internal strife at the exact same time. Never seen anything like that.

Yeah. And again, like on paper, that offense should be, should be rivaling. the 2013 Denver Broncos led by Peyton Manning. You have arguably the best runner in the game of Saquan. He was last year. He's obviously not this year. You have A.J. Brown. You have Devonte Smith.

And Dallas Goddard is an unsung hero that is a tremendous tight end. You have a quarterback that can run very well and has a unbelievable arm. And you have a very, very good offensive line. It's not as good as last year. but you've got Jordan Milata, you've got Lane Johnson on there, like you have two tremendous tackles. What is the problem, guys? What's the problem?

Great question. They keep on winning, though, but it's not pretty, but that doesn't really matter when it's all said and done. Luke. Artie, just before we get you out of here, are you all bunkered down and ready for an evening? You've got your setup all dialed in right now? I'm downtown Toronto at the hotel, ready to rumble tonight. It could be a loose night for me, boys.

Oh, what's going, what's going on? He's got a gallant tonight. Yeah, he's got a gal. Yeah, big galada tonight, yeah. Yeah, big galah tonight. Going to put the, going to put the tuxedo on here, boys, right after this call. Wow. Yeah.

I don't know what your prep was when you went out, like, and we're taking it deep before, but, like, you get a little older now. Get some water beside the bed, some Advil, maybe. All action, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, there's some other stuff you can prep for. Like, you can get everything all set up. Good advice. I'm a true veteran.

Yes. Listen, the phone's open, man. If you guys get a wild hair about 10.30, shoot me a note. Gal will be over by then. Buddy, I'll be in my second REM cycle by then. I know Frankie's interested. He'll be down there for sure. This guy loves tearing it up downtown Toronto.

I'll be in REM cycle number two by 1030 tonight. Thank you, Luke. Cheers, boys. That's Luke Wilson. It's beginning to sound a lot like Christmas with I Heart the Holidays. Non-stop Christmas music 24-7. All your festive favorites. Unwrap the magic of the season.

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