OverDrive - Willson on the Chiefs' winning run, Allen's MVP stance and Nabers making a statement

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

TSN NFL Analyst Luke Willson joined OverDrive to discuss the latest around the league, the Bills' search for the AFC title, Patrick Mahomes leading to the Chiefs to success, Malik Nabers' comments towards Giants fans asking to fix the dumpster fire in New York and more.

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or visit askkelvin.ca our two overdrive continues i love that millie finnelli man It's just a great, great song. It is a great song. It's fraudulent. Luke is in here with us. But it's a pretty good track. It's great to see someone else who was in the big leagues. Yeah, there he is. Luke Wilson, a professional athlete.

You know what I thought was real scummy yesterday? What's that? Real scumbag move. You're a partner, you know. Generally, you guys have a good weekend. He'll put a tweet out there like, let's say you guys hit two and we miss our pick. You know, he'll be, oh, Hazenbro, 3-0.

Yesterday, because we all went 100%, but you guys had more games than us, your overall record was 2-1. But this guy, because he's a frontrunner and a scumbag, tweets, Hazenbro, cause he's a front runner in a scumbag tweets. Hazenbro two and oh, on the weekend. No, you weren't. I know you might've been like, it's fake news. Well, I mean, I know he loves the Trump dance. I know it's his jam. That is his thing right now, but that's trash. Well, you know, competitor, you guys did pick a winner in the afternoon. It was very good pick tough game, Tough game. Very tough game, and you picked a winner.

Dude, he tried to jam me. He's not wrong that on our picks, we did go 2-0. I just want consistency. I gotta stick up for my guy. Don't claim your 3-0 then when we miss one. You know what Al's brother's got? He's got a... Nothing. Well, he's got a security

guard vibe to him. Doesn't he scream? Give him a little bit of authority? What do you mean where it's like, don't touch my guy? Well, or Mr. and Mrs. Soto, you're not allowed in this part of the park. Because we referenced this clip. This is John Amon. Wait till you hear this. This is the most afraid human being on earth.

Yeah, this security guard up at Yankee Stadium. And I think this fits all three of you because you would have dealt with a million security guards. And again, some of them I'm sure were more like mall copy than others or a little bit more, hey, watch it. You're not allowed, or especially if you're a rookie, they probably thought they had some authority over you or what have you. But

John Heyman of MLB Network had this report on what Juan Soto maybe was a little bit disappointed with in terms of his time with the Yankees. One little issue, and I asked Juan Soto about this after they lost the World Series. I took him aside and asked him. There was one little issue with the Yankees where a security guide booted either his mother or his father out of some area, and there were some negative feelings at that moment.

Now, this, I think, is back in April or May, and the same guy did it to his driver and chef, and the chef and driver had a way out in the rain, and Soto is a family guy. He was not too happy. So if you're that security guard right now. Who is that? Who's the security?

Who is the reporter? That's John Heyman. Is he like accredited human being well he did report that aaron judge was signing with the giants and then had to rescind that pretty quickly he's pretty what happened party is juan soto was going to sign with the yankees and it was between the yankees and the mets and this guy brought up the idea that maybe the security guard pissed his family off and he left the organization. You think that's greasy?

Because there's a part of me that thinks the security guard now is probably like, dude, I'm a dead man now in the Bronx. There's literally a 0% chance that this man reporting has any... I mean, that is the most embarrassing report. First and foremost, if Juan Soto wanted to be a Yankee, and what was jamming him up was the security situation. He's going right to the red hat. The idea of it being reported, they're going to track down who that guy is and say,

what is the deal? 100%. Because if Soto wanted to sign with the Yankees, he'll go, I will sign for 760, but I want one thing done. I want you to call that guy who's kicked my parents and my driver and my cookout. You bring him into the office, and you fire him right in front of me. No, you let me fire him. You let me fire him, like something like that.

But if that is somewhat, like if he sat there with his parents, if he sat there with his parents at a table and was like, I've got a choice between these two, and the dad is like, well, that guy kicked me out. I'm not going back to that stadium. It would be insane. That security guard, man. Here's my next thing, and I don't know how it is in hockey.

The security guys that we deal with, there's your people in the stands that are the hired help, but the security guys that are on the Seahawks staff, and this is not just Seattle. When I was in Detroit, everywhere we went, the small time I was in Oakland, these guys bend over backwards to make you and your family feel comfortable.

So at what point, if this actually has merit to it, what was Juan Soto's dad doing to be kicked out of an area? That's the next thing. Or the chef. What's the chef? Is he trying to fire up a stir fry in the outfield? Or what is... This is the security guard

that Juan Soto's dad... I don't know if they get... That's one of the places. Yeah, man. I gotta know this guy. I wanna know the backstory. I'll tell you what tripped me out, and I don't know if that's one of the places. Yeah, man. I got to know this guy. I want to know the back story here. I'll tell you what tripped me out, and I don't know if Doogie can pull this up. It might take him a second.

But did you see the video of him getting champagne poured on himself? Oh, in the hot tub. That was maybe the weird. Now that I've heard this. Very awkward. That'll trump that. And furthermore, Heyman, I'm pretty sure the report, didn't he say he pulled Soto aside right after the World Series?

Yeah, like who's doing that? That guy is lying. He said that Aaron Judge is going to the Giants. He's probably the same guy who claimed that show rate was coming to the Blue Jays. He fired a radio station this week because the guy brought it up again. Yeah, he was on the fan in New York, and the guy was goofing on this guy about being in the pocket of Boras. The thing about it is he broke Aaron Judge, but he spelt his name wrong.

He called him Arson Judge. Arson Judge to the Giants. And then like an hour later, oops. Yeah, that is kind of weird. To be honest, I'm going to be completely honest. If I were to ever sign a $700 million deal, first off, there would be no videos of that party. That's another thing. Secondly, if there was a video, I would not be solo dolo in a hot tub with my boy pouring champagne on my dome.

And that bottle looked like it was a 375 milliliter one, too. That was a tough look for me. Yeah, that's not 50 grand at a Vegas club bottle. That thing was the size of this. It was baby duck. It was a baby duck. Yeah, that was $12 at the local store. Like, we're humming.

I think of, you know, and again, it's nowhere near 700. That looks like a Bud Light, man. I don't even think that is champagne. Like, it's really, really strange. Yeah, that's a weird vibe. That is weird. But that's the world today, though. $750 million, man.

That's a video you put out there. We all are pretty private. I don't know if I'd put that video. I think you say thank you, and that's it. I don't know if you let your buddies film you getting beer or champagne. You posted it, too, right? Yeah, that's what I did. I guess you're having a party. Cool, go for it.

But man, $765 million. I'll be honest. He's doing his thing. He's living his life. I was in LaSalle, Ontario when I was drafted to the NFL. After the phone call came, you know, you do your business, you sign the dotted line of when I'm leaving, and me and my boys went straight to

Ouellette Avenue and burned the city down. Yes. I mean, that's, and if I had 700 million, we would have been on a plane to, I don't know, maybe somewhere in Europe. That's where you can go anywhere. Where are we going for a week? It's on me, man. I'm going to pay a million dollars cash.

Yeah. I have a, I have a, I mean, again, uh, Windsor, Ontario is a special place for partying. Great ballet. If you know what I'm saying. That's great. But other than that, um, you know, I have a hard time with that video. Okay. Well, let me play another video here.

This is a New York one. Another New York one featuring another player in New York, Malik Neighbors, where someone paid a lot of money for a plane to fly over MetLife. This is the best. I saw that. Just saying, Mr. Mara, enough. Please fix this dumpster fire. And the Mara family are the owners of the Giants.

So Malik Nabors, who's a rookie on the team and has already been bent out of shape on multiple occasions this year, I think gets posted a layup from the media here. Gets asked about it and could have easily said a litany of things. We're trying in here. Yes, we're going to get it done for you. Even just go speak to the owner. That one's not for me. This is how

Malik Nabors responded to being posed the question, what do you make of that plane flying over MetLife? How do you as a player, what do you make of that? I ain't paid for the plane. I ain't paid for the plane. I ain't paid for the plane and then turns around, end of discussion, and leaves. Yeah.

Like, what an answer. I like it. You like that? I like it. What is he saying then? Well, it's almost like saying if I thought about it, maybe I would have paid for that guy. Yeah, I agree partially. But did anyone think that he was paying for it, like Malik Nabors? No, but I think it's a

shot. Does he have the right to give a shot? He's a rookie in the league. That's fair. I'll take that take, but here's my thing. I do look at Malik Nabors, especially early on when Daniel Jones was still in New York Giant. It was like, man, they got a little connection going on. Yes. It's tough

because you look at these guys and guys like Malik, and this is where i feel for him where i actually think he's talented enough you know to be the offensive rookie of the year you know be that guy where hey he becomes the next jefferson or the next jamar chase and i'm not saying he can't become that guy but right now he needs help around him in order to become that guy and you look at it now like drew lock Locke yesterday was Mary's lost little lamb out there for three and a half quarters. The man's just got 11 points.

I mean, I feel for the guy when he's probably sitting there going, yeah, I'm a rookie, but he's the best offensive player on that team. He's really been the only bright spot on offense on the team. He probably thinks his name should be out there. He was great the first five or six weeks. Yeah, and they're jamming him. And one of the things you expect as a player is that the organization would want to win and be professional.

And clearly, the New York Giants are not those things. They all want to win, the Jets, the Giants. They just suck, and they have no direction and no leadership up top. Sorry, it's a joke. I agree. I look at Deion Sanders right now and people were dogging him being like, there's certain places my kids aren't going.

I heard that and was like, if I had the power Deion Sanders had, I would be saying the same thing. Would the Giants and Jets be on that list for you? Absolutely. Which is amazing considering Eli was like, I'm not going to San Diego. I want to go to New York. Yes. And now it may actually be reversed. Now Coughlin was a

different, I would not put the Giants when Tom Coughlin was there in the same category as how they are right now. Yeah, listen, Eli won two Super Bowls there. Yes. So it worked out pretty well for him. But I get it because this is the thing. It's like, man, you could have as much talent in the world. You get put into a bad organization, things aren't going to go well.

You look at the Cleveland Browns. I mean, Baker Mayfield's a prime example. They picked this guy first overall. They ship him out of town. Baker won a playoff game for these guys. The Browns have been an abomination ever since. Baker Mayfield is, what, a top-ten quarterback in the NFL right now? He's been great.

He's been great. Yeah, he's been really good. So I sit here and say to myself, like, I get it, and it's tough. I don't mind Malik Naver saying I didn't pay for it. He doesn't disagree. Okay. All right. Is that weird?

Listen, he said what he said. I ain't paid for that play, and then he took off. That's an all-time line. How do you look at, like, the Bills and the Chiefs yesterday? Where the Bills, they gave up a ton of points to the Rams. Rams offense has not really been clicking all season, and it clicked yesterday. And McDermott's now on the firing line for the timeout late,

them going for the sneak and it not working, and the reaction to all that. All of it justified, in my opinion, the heat that he's taking and where he's at. Because McDermott is a guy that when it gets tighter later in the season, he's put himself in bad places. Dude, what do you mean the firing line, Hayes? They're 9-3, dude.

Well, listen, they've been a playoff team for four years. And a lot of the issues Bill's fans have by the end of the year is, does McDermott have what it takes to really close out games? And then you look at the Chiefs, who are 12-1, and they've won back-to-back Super Bowls, yet it's the weirdest 12-1 season ever. Like, they doinked one in last night. He called them frauds. He did call them.

He called them covering frauds. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. He may have called them outright frauds. But they did win, but didn't cover last night. So he's right on both. It was 13-0. I know.

I thought they were going to run away with that. We're good, and I'm going to be putting a Rick Barry tweet out there very soon. Rick in his short shorts. Rick had to stay away last night. Where are we at in the top of the AFC? To be honest with you, and again, I hope Bill's fans, because I know I go at him pretty tough. I think that was probably what I needed to see

because they should not have been close there. So Josh Allen, to me, can overcome Sean McDermott. That's just the reality. The idea that the Bills are going to have another game where Puka Nakua makes three of the best six catches in the NFL this year. Matthew Stafford looked like he turned back the clock 15 years. And in the same breath, be it only down two points, they also gave up a punt block touchdown.

So you take that out, technically we're winning the game. So I sit here and say to myself, for Buffalo, I thought it was the best case Josh Allen could make for MVP. But you talk about Buffalo's defense. Where I worry, though, is in now game film prep. Of the 37 points they gave up on defense, again, because of the pump locks, minus seven there, I now sit here and go, okay, as a player,

what would happen when we got gashed or we got shut down on offense? The next week, that team sees all that film and go, okay, as a player, what would happen when we got gashed or we got shut down on offense? The next week, that team sees all that film and says, okay, even if this is not something we normally do, clearly it worked very well. They had a hard time stopping it. We need to put our own wrinkle on what the Rams just did. And now I look at who they're playing next week. The Ben Johnson-

Going to Detroit. Detroit Lions offense. And Detroit's getting, I believe, Taylor Decker back as well, and they're hanging 30 on everybody. So now I sit here and say if they don't find a way to win that game, which I think they got a shot. I really do believe they have a shot there. But if they don't find a way to win that game

and they get another 30 hung on them, now all of a sudden you've got two great films to study from of being like, okay, how did the Rams hang 37 and how did the Lions hang whatever it's going to be? And you're going to the playoffs and they lose that. Again, we don't know exactly, but at some point they're probably going to have to see at least two of the following three teams. Baltimore, Kansas City, and Pittsburgh. So I sit here and say, especially with a Kansas City team great coaches. Andy Reid

sees that film yesterday compares it to his own and says okay this really worked. Let's run this. That's where I think more the X and O's jam them up. But all in all I didn't think the loss was that much of an indictment on the Bills. Yeah. Because Josh Allen is one of the best

games I've ever seen. He's a he's a phenom. The picks aren't there anymore. That's the biggest thing year over year. He used to fumble balls away. He used to pick balls. He threw a million picks, or it seemed that way. And he's just not putting his team in a bad place.

No. He's controlling the football, and he's moving the chains, and he looks incredibly dialed in with probably maybe the least amount of talent offensively around him. Totally. At least over the last few years. The next thing I'll say is that, and we talk about the turnovers and how he hasn't had hardly any, but what I also think is like, you look at yesterday, James Cook had 20 rush yards.

I think he averaged 3.3. So he literally had no run game. They're down a million in the second half, and everybody knows, like, okay, they're throwing every play here. And Josh Allen's still, like, when you become that one-dimensional, that's generally when the mistake happens. Hey, we're pressing a bit. We're down 10 with no time. The Kirk Cousins type vibe.

Correct. And now all of a sudden it's like, hey, he's still doing it. Again, I tip my cap because that was another one that could have really gotten away quickly. Yeah. Well, and after the Detroit game, they got a soft skid coming home, and Kansas City's got a tough schedule. Pittsburgh's got a tough schedule.

What's crazy, though, is that that game wasn't on the docket. Yeah, Doogie. Doogie not having that game on the docket was bizarre. That was bizarre. I thought that was one of the bigger games of the weekend. Yet, now we have one for tonight. And on FanDuel, it is now Bengals down to minus four and a half.

Four and a half now, is it? Bengals four and a half at the Cowboys. This is a weird game, a weird line. I would guess if you asked the average NFL fan who's not really paying attention, they would just assume Cincinnati has more wins than the Cowboys. They would

assume incorrectly. Dallas has a better record. You're not going to get me to take the Cowboys. They would assume incorrectly. Dallas has a better record. You're not going to get me to take the Cowboys. You're not going to take the points. No. Okay. No, look at that. He tried.

Hold on. He tried. Look at your buddy wants to. Look at him over there. I got to say, one of the biggest concerns I have is, like, what kind of frame of mind is Joe Burrow going to be in? Because if he's in any kind of frame of mind, this is a blowout, and it's not even close, my personal opinion parts. Totally.

You're saying they're going to blow them out. You think the Bengals will win big tonight? Correct. When do the Bengals ever beat anyone big? Tonight. Crappy teams. They beat crappy teams. It's only 4.5.

It was 6.5. I know. It's been bet down significantly. I sit here, and I think about the Cowboys. They lose to the Eagles 34-6. They lose to the Texans 34-0. I know. It's been bet down significantly. I mean, I sit here and I think about the Cowboys. They lose to the Eagles 34-6. They lose to the Texans 34-10. They beat the Commanders, who are not as good and clearly have not been playing as well,

which is the division opponent. And then they beat the Giants by 7. They beat the Giants by 7? Dallas. There is no way I can sit here and take Dallas to cover this tonight at 4-1. Could it happen? Of course it could happen.

That Bengals defense is historically awful. Not good. That's called boardroom chats. Not good. Boardroom chats. O-Dog, where I think we potentially get jammed, I'm going with the Bengals. There's no way I'm changing that. But where I think we might get jammed is that the Cowboys run defense is very, very bad.

And O-Dog, you said it. Cowboys' run defense is very, very bad, and Odell, you said it. The Bengals' defense is also very susceptible to getting 35 points hung on them. So I do slightly worry that the Bengals' game plan is going to be, hey, even though we can throw all over this team, we can run all over this team, let's hand the ball off to Chase Brown, keep this kind of a slower game that our defense isn't on the field that long, be up six, you know, and ride that coattail into a Kansas City Chiefs-type win,

and now all of a sudden there's a greasy backdoor cover. I do worry about that. But that being said, O-Dog, I think it's the right pick. I think this puts us even on the week. We haven't missed a pick this weekend. We're on fire right now. Since the speech, we've only missed one. We've got to keep it going.

To me, this whole weekend was the Geppetto Bot Farmers kind of like last stand. They sat back there. They said, we can weather the storm. They threw the kitchen sink at us. Doogie tried to jam us with a tough game. We absorbed that. We keep it even

here. Next week, the floodgates are over. All right, we'll see, man. We've heard that a lot. That's very Yankee Stadium security guard vibes. Just loser, loser vibes. Security guard. That's fine, man. There's no way that's a true story.

I don't know, man. The security guard with the baseball bat. The baseball bat. That was so funny. Who was that? Stu Steiner or whatever his name is. Soto's parents trying to get into Yankee Stadium. They just take

a beating from whoever it is. Hey, listen. Whether you believe it or not, Yankee fans are going to jump on that. What I love about this, and it's such a loser's mentality, admittedly, because the Jays were in on this guy and they didn't get him. At least he's not in the AL East. At least he's not a Yankee or a Red Sox.

Okay, but can I ask you one question? You're a baseball guy, and then I'll shut up. Here it is. Welcome to Yankee Stadium. Come on in. How do you say no to the New York Yankees with that amount of money? It is absurd that he turned down what sounds like about $5 million difference. Yes.

They offered per year like $47.5 with the Yankees, $51 with the Mets. It may be as simple as Boris just said. You have to go wherever they literally will pay you the most. It may be that. Yeah, it could be. And Cohen just was going to continue to up and up and up with the Mets. But I'm with you. At some point, it's your life.

You would think, you're telling me I'm going to get $760 million to be a Yankee? I'll take that. Because then I'm a Yankee. Correct. I look at Jeter and say, you think of baseball, whether you hate the Yankees or not, the pinstripes, the Yankees, it's like you can be in baseball. You're a monument park.

You're a Yankee. The idea that you do that for the Mets, it's like, okay, sweet. You'll be next to Mike Piazza. Yeah. Crazy. Not Babe Ruth. That's what's coming, man. Or Luke Gary.

But their security is top notch. Crazy. And everyone's allowed in. All right. You guys are locking it in. Bengals minus four and a half on FanDuel. Timo and Wilson, good luck tonight. Thank you.

Good luck tonight. There he is, Luke Wilson.