OverDrive - Willson on the Grey Cup matchup, the experience in Winnipeg and Hayes and Bro's TNF selection

Episode Date: November 13, 2025

TSN NFL Analyst Luke Willson joined OverDrive to discuss the headlines around the Grey Cup, the protocol on touching trophies and walking over logos, the Packers and Bills' current tough stretches, the experience in Winnipeg, the Grey Cup matchup between the Roughriders and Alouettes, Hayes and Bro's selection and more.

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We are in business in Winnevegas, Winnevegis, and Luke Wilson has joined us around the table. Nice. What's happening, Lukey boy. How are we doing? I'm fired up. I got into town and the airport was buzzing. And like a lot of fans. Hey, hang on.

Didn't it feel like home when you stepped off the bird? I said it felt like home. I love it here. I do. I know. It's going to be a big night tonight, too. Yes. Big night.

You're right. The award show is going tonight. And you're right, man. We said it too. Like, right when you got here. Noodles was coming from Edmonton, we're coming from Toronto. There's people from Ottawa, Montreal on our bird. Obviously, there's a lot of Argo fans that are coming out.

It's amazing how all nine fan bases and everyone in between just kind of connect. And you make the call year after year. You have no idea who's going to play in the game. Now we know it's Montreal against Saskatchewan, but it's an incredibly cool vibe out here. It was. And again, I've been here for four or five hours, but you know, sometimes you land in a city and you're like, man, there's kind of like an electric atmosphere brewing. It's a vibe, yeah.

Winnipeg's on fire right now. Winnipeg is on fire. Winnipeg's on fire. I got one question. Are we allowed to touch it? You know, the Stanley Cup? Like, I've never touched the Stanley Cup in my life. Right.

Me neither. I'll never win it or whatever. I don't even know. I go to Buddy's parties who have it. Are you allowed to touch the Great Cup? I'm touching it. You're talking because it's superstitious. Superstitious.

I wrote in a cab with the Stanley Cup to an event. I just happened to get in the last cab, and the guy that was bringing the cup, sat it in, put it a seatbelt on it and everything. Yeah. And it was later in the afternoon, and I had been having a nice time throughout the day. I took the seatbelt off the cup at the restaurant, and I was going to grab it and put it over my head. And he looked at me and said, don't even think about it. No one's allowed to put the cup over their head.

And I was like, are you serious? He's like, yeah, put it down. Well, what's the rule with the great cup? Yeah, is there rules? We can't do it? All right, we're not touching that thing. I touched it. I'm sure.

I think we're allowed to touch it. Are we not? Oh, you can't touch it. You got to have white gloves. Throw some white gloves on. Put them on. Philip Pritch. O.J.

There's not going to fit his sausage. The sausage hands here. Taking right up the gloves here. You got triple XL hands? They're as long as they are wide. His fingers. They're like bricks. They've got potatoes for hands.

All right. There you go. The great cups in the house. No one's allowed. I didn't know. That's why I was asking. What's the rules? That makes sense.

I would say, I don't know the exact rules with the Grey Cup. I would say that in general, hockey's way more superstitious than football. Like, the one that was weird for me was, like, don't step on the logo on the ground in the locker room. Yeah. Like, we had a big Seahawk logo in Seattle, and we met on the logo all the time. Like, it's on the ground. Right. Well, you know what's even crazier is players will yell at media for walking over the logo.

But it's like, the media's like, oh, sorry, I'm just trying to walk around. Cameron's walking across. What about Jersey on the ground? No, no jersey on the ground. It's disrespectful. You don't just take your jersey off and throw it on the ground. Ours are taped to our pads. So, like, even for me after games, it would be, it's very hard to get that.

You don't take the jersey off. It comes off with the pad. You just take it off and you hang it up. You don't throw it on the ground. I would have to go to an equipment guy. I'd, like, pull it, like, it's like one arm, the other, and it, like, lands in the ground. There are superstitions. Now, what media people are doing in the National Hockey League is morning skate, they'll open the room.

They put a carpet over the logo. So now you can walk on the carpet. Is that a bit absurd? Imagine being the worst team in the league and you're so worried about your logo on the floor. And the thing about the jerseys, I believe in no jersey on the ground. But it's okay to hang it on a grubby cart that you got from a grocery store. That's fine. But don't put it on the ground.

Maybe that night you had the worst game of your career. There's so many. Like, you're not paying homage to the jersey when you're out there playing necessarily. There's these unwritten rules. But, like, even Ray talks about, you go into Buffalo and the team service, or the guy who helps out in the dress room, he's making the gatorade, and he's stirring it with his arm. You can do that, but he can't throw a jersey on the ground.

You can't walk on the logo on the floor, but the guy can stir it, and he's got hangnails and whatever else is going on there. I would say that's not, at least in my experience, there was none of that. Yeah. It seems like that's all across hockey, though. It is hockey. Logo, Jersey on the ground, you just don't do it. But football doesn't have those types.

Like I said, I just touched, you're not supposed to touch that, right? Like, that's the thing. It was weird. NFL Canada brought the Lombardi trophy to Toronto a couple of years ago, and I was doing an interview, and the guy there was like, the only person in here that's allowed to touch this trophy is Luke because you won it. And it was the first I'd ever heard of it. That's cool.

Did you get it for a day or something? No, so that was the worst part. The worst part was because I'm Canadian. and, you know, everybody at home was like, when's the parade going to be? When are you bringing the Lombardi trophy by? And I'm like, that's not, you don't get the trophy. Really? Not even a replica?

Like, I know the Stanley Cup has a replica. Yeah, didn't get a, no one does. Is that because, I guess, history or because there's so many players and it's just too difficult to do? I think it's a combo of both. And then the other weird one is, correct me for wrong, with the Stanley Cup, and it looks like from this, the Gray Cup, is the same trophy where, like, the Lombardi Wii one is sitting in the facility in a, a nice case in Seattle, and then next year they'll make a new one. Like, every year is a new Lombardi trophy.

The reason why the Stanley Cup has a chaperone is because, I believe it was like the Oilers in the 80s. Like, I remember Graham Fehrer's my goalie partner. They would get, you would get the cup. Yeah. And they'd take it to the bar, and then Mark Messier would bring it to a strip club in St. Albert called the Brewing Inn, and it would stay there for four days, and then the cup would go missing. Fearsie told me a story.

He's like, me and Glenn Anderson would draw. drinking one time we forgot it we'd a cab driver had to bring the cup back to the rink because they were just like they just left it there that's amazing so now it has a chaperone and i mean these parties you hear these parties i believe the the cup got injured i don't know it was injury but it's on the i r it was at viny pantera's house in dallas when they won it 99 and they threw it out of the window tried to put it in the pool and it they didn't make the pool it bounced and then so it dented or something that's trouble that's going to cause a problem yeah absolutely so you didn't even get a replica or anything, like a replica this big nothing.

Nope. That sucks. Yeah, I agree. You can make your own. You get the ring. I don't know if that is anything. Oh, the ring is obviously awesome, but you want to just have like a replica trophy that sits in the back year. Totally.

That would be kind of fun, but no, nothing like that. Yeah. Maybe that should happen. And the owner gets it first, too. Doesn't the NFL for sure? Like the owner gets the trophy? Basically every other sport, but hockey. Every other sport, like in baseball, they get it.

Totally. Larry O'Brien goes to the owner in the NBA. Like, they'll shift it off pretty quickly, but the owner's at the forefront of the win. I loved our owner. May he rest in peace, Paul Allen, Microsoft guy. So I didn't mind that. He was, like, one of the coolest guys all time. I didn't think he actually knew anyone's name, and I got hurt one year.

And he came into the training room and was like, hey, Luke, whatever is it matter with your knee, don't worry, we'll make sure you have the best care. And I was like, whoa, ball knows. You're like, can I get some stock? Yeah, no kidding. You could have been Steve Balmer. You could have been Steve Balmer. Balmer came by a facility a couple of times. Really?

Is he a lunatic in person or what? He seemed like what you see on television was very, very similar to what he was like at our facility. And the Clippers are awful this year. Bradley Beal's done for the year now. Like he's getting sued by that tree planting company. Like it's a mess. Yeah, the fake company. I think that happens a lot more than people think.

I love that. Under the table stuff? I'm sure it does. I love Steve Balmer. He's trying. Yeah. He's trying like good. Good on him.

I am with you. I think he's the 15th most wealthiest person on the planet. He's one of them. Spend the money. Yeah, my favorite owner in sports right now is the Colts. Yes. You love the daughters. She's the best.

The one on the sidelines. She's the... With the clipboard. That level of accountability, you're going to start seeing more people in the NFL do it. Here's my concern with her quickly. Yeah. I think she believes in Danny Dimes.

I wouldn't be so quick to do that. He's starting the old... The old Danny started a little bit. I thought it was Indiana. Indiana, there's a scale now. Those Danny Times or Indiana? He's driving back to New York. He's in like Pennsylvania right now.

Yeah. Give me the skinny on this trophy. Who's got the advantage? Who do you like? Honest, and I know Winnipeg's not going to love this, but it's Saskatchewan for me right now. I know, I know, but here's where... I'll tell you what's getting a little funky for me.

I'll tell you what's getting a little funky. I worry about the hamstring of Davis-Alexander. And like, you never know, But these reports where it's like, oh, he's getting five treatments a day and that'll make him 100%. That's not a thing. Nobody gets five treatments a day. At some point, you're like overusing the treatment or not. So I do get nervous about that.

But I think that the riders have been constructed as a very, very tough football team. And you love that. And I do think that like in a Great Cup game like this, that it's going to be the difference. And then the next thing I'll say is, and we'll see tonight. but I have a feeling that Hardrick their tackle is going to win linemen of the league. If A.J. Olet

gets rolling, it's very, very hard to stop. They have a very physical offensive line in a absolute bowling ball in A.J.O. Let and that takes a lot of pressure of everything else. Right now, my early lean is Saskatchewan, but I got a big day with my iPad in the film

tomorrow when I wake up, so I'm going to revisit that tomorrow. You're on the clock tomorrow, man. You guys are on the clock. We need a bad. So you're leaning Saskatchewan, but you might lean over to Montreal. Yeah, it's very, very close to me. And I think... Three and a half.

It spreads three and a half. And to be honest, I think it should be tighter than that. I think if it wasn't his hamstring, it'd be really like almost a toss-up. But you've got to respect, like, Jason Moss, the head guy in Montreal, and he's also their play caller. I find his game-calling skills to be second and none. Like, it's almost a work of art. Everything plays into one another. And I'll just be...

Again, it's easy for me. I'm watching it on the film. I'm not in the moment. but I'll be like, oh, man, I wonder if he's setting something up. And, like, two plays later, the thing that I'm wondering, boom, they hit. And Davis-Slexander has got a very good feel for the deep ball. So he can really nickel and dine you.

He'll be patient. They do a lot of things where it's, hey, we've got a run-play call, but I'll do a wide receiver screen. Pick up six, pick up seven. And then all of a sudden, it's like, boom, there's a six-a-yard bomb over the top. So I have a lot of respect for that. But I think it's going to be a great game.

Either way, I think it'll be very, very tight. Okay. Well, and last week, both games, were pretty low-scoring games. Yeah, this is, this is one thing. I don't think low-scoring games are a bad thing. No, if it's a tight, they were both great finishes. And that's my thing.

It's like, I would much rather see great football, regardless of the score. Absolutely. Big defensive play, big stop, big moments, then like, oh, let's just get a huge shoot-outs. Shoot-outs are fun. I'm not saying they're not. But, like, in the ranking, both games stunk. But if I go to the NFL for a second, a Thursday night game, Denver versus Oakland, excuse me, Las Vegas, was one of the worst games ever had to witness in my life.

My eyes are bleeding. Terrible. Now, the Monday Nighter was not much better, but I did find that there were a lot more fun plays. You know, Micah Parsons is running around. Brandon Graham came out of retiring, made a few plays. The new guy, Phillips from Miami, made some plays. So, like, again, for me, if this game ends up being 1714, but there's a ton of huge moments, I don't. That's a great game.

I love that. That's a great game. Absolutely. Luke Wilson with us. We're live at Boston Pizza in Winnipeg. As for the NFL, you mentioned that Packer lost the other night. Like we were talking about McDermott. Was it Billy who was saying he's got it going, Buffalo?

You've got to mix it up a little bit. I think in Pittsburgh it's getting loud with Tomlin again. And the same thing, Lafleur and Green Bay, I can tell you, man. Like, these guys... There's chattering? Yeah, people in Green Bay are not happy with Matt LaFleur. I understand that. What about for the simple fact?

It's just been a long time. He's been there a long time. and he wins, he wins, but they went all in. When they went out and got Micah, it was like, you've got to make this. Totally. And he's an offensive-minded coach, and the offense has been dreadful the last two weeks. And it's the biggest gripe is the moments where they just, it's brutal. And the first one was, it's a three-point game, it's three-nothing.

You're marching there. You hit Christian Watson. I think they got down to like the nine or ten. And it's like flag, illegal formation. How? How are we not prep? This is not week one. We are sitting at week 10, and you are supposed to be a Super Bowl contending team.

Like, to me, that is coaching, that is prep, that is practice. And then, again, it's fourth and one. And you get up there, and it's funny because I listen to the mic'd up version of it. And as they're coming up to the thing, I go, they're going to run this football. Yeah, you knew it was coming. It was so predictable. So did Philly. Philly's middle linebacker, I believe, starts screaming out exactly what's going to be called.

And in one play, a fourth and one at the game in the line, they lose three or four yards, fumble, and none of that even mattered because they lined up with any legal formation. That's coaching, though. That's absolutely coaching. And this is where you can't sit here and say this team, and they could, they have their ability, but you cannot be like, we're ready to win now.

When you do dumb, I was going to say a worst word, but doogie, I would have jam dogy there. When you do dumb things like that. Yes. Well, and that's, you know, we were talking about the bills, obviously, too. Like, I like Packers' Bill's Super Bowl. That's what I was kind of pushing for.

Yeah. I picked the bills to win the Super Bowl. this year, you know, you talk about the last couple of weeks, we know what happened against Kansas City, but you lose against Miami, you know, the weapons, it's the same kind of thing. Like, love is not Josh Allen. Allen has established himself clearly, and he's a better player, better quarterback, but they both lack weapons. Like Tucker Kraft out in Green Bay, that's a big hit.

Christian Watson's hurt all the time. Jaden Reed's been out all season. Their old line stinks. The Billsill's O'Line's very good. Very good. Very, very good. But are the weapons there to help Josh Allen? I don't think so.

Not a receiver. That's the concern. Like both guys, both teams, Green Bay and Buffalo, high expectations, both won a lot of games, both currently in a playoff spot, but looking great right now. And this is, we got a Bill's fan here, we got a Bill's fan. I'll tell you. Absolutely. Where I get jammed up with Buffalo, and I know we talked about it a bit, but if not now,

then when? And I do find it, I'm not saying this is the case. It's just kind of me on the outside looking in. But I find that there are a lot of times of GMs where it's like, hey, we're in good shape. We're going to make the playoffs every year. My job is secure. Everything's good on my end. They give themselves a big window with Josh Allen. Correct. Like this guy's going to be good for

six more years. And it's and again, to me, it's Super Bowl for these guys. Especially this year. Look at the AFC. Yeah. 8 and 2, we just talked about it with the 8 and 2 Colts. Certainly look fraudulent. It wasn't for Jonathan Taylor, that team's not even close 8 and 2.

What about my pats? Your pats? They're probably the best team complete. They're fraudulent. Are they not? Are they? Look at Denver. Denver's 8 and 2 looks like the worst 8 and 2 team at times. The fourth quarter of Bo Nix has been good. So it's like Buffalo, this is the year. Baltimore has been in shambles.

They look better recently, but certainly have not looked their best. Like, go do it. There's a moment. Now is it. And then you come out and you lay an egg against Miami. You got Tampa this week, which will be a tight game. You know, I think they win, but it's definitely not a gimmie. Yeah.

Well, Josh Allen and Baker, I guess, are boys. seen them going back and forth? John said he wears two gloves, golf. Yeah, did you see that? Alan took a shot at Baker? Why don't we play it? Because I think Baker set the tone, right? I think Baker took a shot at him first, and then Alan responded. Here's Baker-Mayfield.

Josh Allen leading up to Sunday. I have to walkie-talkie to him because he's so damn tall, so I can't really have a face-to-face conversation with him. But, you know, in Buffalo, it's cold, it's rainy, even though he's 6-10, his hands are small, so he better wear his gloves. I like that. I like that. So that's him setting the tone.

Obviously, they're buddies. Do we have the Josh Allen clip, too? All right, here's Alan responding to Baker. Dugie's Sporko right now is electric. I know, but we're having issues with the clips. Because he's a Randy River. He's the best dressed guy in Winnipeg. He is.

He looks phenomenal. Yeah. Do we have it? Yeah, whatever. I guess we have. He's never seen Doogie with the sport coat on. He didn't out to Polo Park. There's a naked mannequin across the street at the mall.

He stole it off a mannequin. He's a wanted man in Manitoba. Okay. I guess we evidently don't. But he took a shot out of him and said Baker plays golf with two gloves. He's that type of guy. He's Aaron Rye. He's the Aaron Rye of the NFL.

Tommy two gloves. I did think I saw something on TSN today. I thought it was kind of funny. Again, the Winnipeg fans might be a little upset, but Trevor Harris made a comment about how he thinks the team with the best record should have the home dressing room. I found it a bit interesting, and I know that it was recently changed. I agree with them.

But coming into this thing, I could see how that would be a bit weird. What do they do? Flip a coin? No, they do it. They flip every year. It's like East or West is home every other year. Okay. I can see that.

Then there's no problem. That makes sense. I mean, I think the issue they have is there's potential for a crossover and two teams from the West or two teams from the East. Yes. Like, it's possible. Better record gets the home dressing room every time. I think that would have really stung a lot of Blue Bombers fans to have the riders in their home locker room. Is that true? Is that true?

Yeah. I think that would have been. Yeah. You want to imagine that. You guys are talking about stepping on logos. Imagine being like, oh, like our tribal's coming here to play the Great Cup and they get our stalls. Yeah, that would sting. That would be tough.

Well, as for the game tonight, the spread is, what, 12 and a half? Dugie. Enjoy this pick, buddy. That's a tough, tough pick because it challenges my partner who's currently cruising through the Bermuda. need a triangle right now. We can't even be we can't even be Cart Show cruisers, man.

This guy is... I'm in shambles. It's pretty wild. This guy is Card Expo last week cruising this week. He's a Dosakis, man. Charcoteries next week. Like, who knows what the hell

he's going to be doing, but he picks winners and he sees the boards very clearly. I haven't been able to contact him, but I'm picking up on a vibe again from the Bermuda Triangle. Yeah. And we are in Winnipeg.

We are in Winnipeg. The home of J. E, T, Jets, Jets, Jets. You're taking the Jets? We're taking the points tonight. We're going to take the points. It's way too big of a spread. Here's why.

New England just beat parts. I would have taken the Jets. You have to take the points. This year means I probably would have lost. Well, that does concern me. I wish you didn't say that. But the Jets actually have been winning some games. Now, not against great teams, but they have been winning games.

They just had a buy where they seem to reset to an extent. Justin Fields can run the ball, and I think get in the end. end zone a couple of times tonight for me it's a letdown game for new england i think they look i think they're still young it's screams they're looking at it's insane i'll tell you where we might be screams i'll tell you where i think about what this guy just said i think it's absolutely jets covered tonight 12 and a half i like two one get get good yes i would have taken the jets isn't there uh but there's a but sorry go ahead no you go ahead new england's new new england's run defenses electric electric electric very very stout and as we know as woody johnson

informed all of us. The Jets do have a quarterback right now that's having a hard time completing passes. So I could see this thing getting into a third and long. The scramble's not there. We throw a pick and if we get a pick early and all of a sudden it becomes a 14 point game early, this thing has the makings of being 35 to 3.

No, I don't see it happening tonight. I think we go up two touchdowns this evening. We need to stop the bleeding. If we go up two touchdowns, like part of it is we're missing. You guys haven't missed. No, we are seeing the board as clearly as anyone in the history of gambling. worry, though, isn't there a saying

in New York, the Jets will Jets? Yes. That's what worries me. You're right. They lose by 12 tonight. Exactly. They lose by 12 tonight. I do think what does help in a weird way. Get this. I mean... This shirt is just so incredible. Shout out to the guys who brought that. Look at

Millie Vanilli. You guys actually look pretty good in those shirts. I got one from my partsy. You know what? When we make this iconic comeback, I might wear this. I might wear this all in the show. In three, four weeks we have when we're sitting dead even... wear it all night sports center everything yeah these guys the boys hooked us up man there's a lot this is haynesbro country no this is haynesbro country absolutely in the prairies they love

oh they love al's brother would get mugged here they would like people would be mad at him they'd be pissed off with his arrogance yes they don't like the arrogance that's the thing like they like down to earth like like that's the thing haze they like you else brother they'll hate his face. I'm not sure unless they love me out here, but it's all good. Well, you keep talking about Saskatchewan. We're bringing Mike O'Shea back to Toronto. That whole thing, obviously I'm new with CFL, but that whole thing is very, very strange. Well, like, what did you make of Dinwiddie jumping ship? I think Dinwiddie would have sniffed out about. I wonder if he knew that O'Shea was on the radar. Exactly. These guys aren't stupid, man. They're going to get tipped off. And he got

autonomy in Ottawa, which is big. This isn't a shot at O'Shea. He's obviously had a historic run. But Dinwiddie's won two great Cubs of the last four, not including this one. And the year they lost, they had a million turnovers in the final. And they set a franchise record. They should have floated. Correct. Arguably the greatest regular season in history. How do you let this guy walk out of your building?

That's a very valid question. That's where it gets weird. Now, I believe we just reported that it's not going to happen. But there were reports, the one that was strange is that Hamilton also interviewed O'Shea. Right. Scott Milanovic is their head coach. He's under contract. they just got the one seat and they're three points away or late last second

field goal from being here today and we're interviewing the head coaches that's I'm not going to call world it is uh yeah it's a circus right now the CFO yeah Mike O'Shea is getting everyone getting everyone fired up he sure is that'd be a big loss to the bomber so that'd be a big win MLSC needs one right now MLSC they need they need a distraction from the Leafs right now like let's bring in someone else look over here I'm not a hockey guy what's going for my dad you know my dad's a leeska what's going on over there go ahead where do you start there's not enough time in his segment to go through it they've been terrible yeah there's no there's no sugar going they're lloyd and harry sitting in the living room

wondering how bad it is that's what they are right now their pets heads are falling off right now we got a second we got a second movie with sport go on do you think the lees really miss marner well of course they do but that's still no excuse for what they're doing on the ice there's going more goals than anyone in the league, but they're just giving up more goals than anybody in the league, too. They have no idea defensively what the hell they're doing. They miss them, but they'd be like 9, 7, and 1 with them. As a non-hockey guy, one of my favorite things right now is when I'm watching TSN to see Barubei upset.

I love, like, you can just see that he wants to just, he reminds me of a football guy. I played with him. He would strangle some players if he was allowed to. The problem is, he's been losing his mind like that basically almost every game. Yeah. So if he's doing it every game, you're like, something. something's wrong here. This is like a once a month thing. That's I'm with you.

And if you're doing it every game, you've got big time. But even last year, like, he's a very composed guy, and he's really smart and really cerebral. But you can tell he picked his spots last year. Last year, he would call a timeout, and you could see the team just respond. He might even not say anything. Just this year he's called a lot of timeouts, like, early to try and, like, jolt the guys and get him going. And you can see he's trying to press a lot of buttons. And whether they respond or no, man.

He is a terrifying. He's a scary. I sat, scariest-looking guy. Two stalls away from him, and he was a teammate, and he was still scary. I go for beers with him after the game. And how is he a beers? He's a great guy, very funny in that. But, like, he is as, like, he's as tough as he looks.

He got a mullet back in the day, too, didn't he? Yeah, yeah. Top ten toughest guy in the league. I saw him fight a guy, and a guy punched him, and he caught it. He caught the punch, and then punched the guy. He's a ninja on the side. I've got one more hockey question. You know I'm a Windsor guy.

How is this toughness compared to pro? because probert is like a living god he probably dealt with him a few times i guarantee you i guarantee you fought probert you know there's if you ever want to see anything just go to hockey fights dot com yeah no you can see anyone fight anybody but prober was the king of the jungle right he was there's a great youtube video of baroube taking him and like really yes and baroube is going nuts trying to get a piece of him that's how that's how wired that guy was he's got to be the guy to turn the leaves around is this guy i know what'll turn the leafs around why is everybody with me, why don't we start a go-leafs-go chance?

Part Cetee, go-leafs-go! Go-leafs go! Go-leafs go! Go-leafs go! These guys are not going to make it out of the building. I didn't partake in that. You and I are the only ones that are safe to get out of this building. I didn't partaking that. I'm a Manitoba moose guy. I always happen. Oh! You pulled that one out of your back pocket.

I read about them this morning. I do have a, I have somewhat of a gripe with Manitoba. So the year would have been 07, and I believe they're the Bison. They won the Vanier Cup. Right. They ruined it for everybody because they were doing this whole CJFL thing. I'm not even exactly sure. I believe they had an older, the team was older than the Green Bay Packers playing in university that year.

Right. So my brother was on the Western squad. Manitoba drummed them in like the Mitchell Bowl, whatever it's called. And I'm in high school. I call him afterwards, and I'm like, my brother was 18, 17, 18. And he was, man, I got smoked like a 28-year-old. He says to me as I'm getting up, isn't it past your bedtime, buddy? I love that.

And they had to put rules in afterwards, so you can't. It's like a certain age now. That's great, man. I appreciate that. Yeah, 2000. Got to bend the rules, man. You got to bend the rules. Like, that's a Steve Ballmer play.

Yeah, exactly. It's a Steve Palmer play. 40-year-olds playing against the kids. All right, you guys ready to rock? You two buddies again, a little pep talk. You guys can go in the corner and come up with a plan. We're ready to rock. All it takes is one.

We've got to chip away at this thing. We need to pick winners. He doesn't know pro sports lingo. We've got a stack days. Yeah, sack days. One day at a time. Go leaves, go. Go leaves, go.

Go leaves, go. Go, leave, go. There he is. Go, leave, go. Luke will join us tomorrow with his great cup pick. Hayes and bro on the Jets tonight. Taking the points. Love that.

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