OverDrive - Willson on the NFL Conference Championships matchups, the Bills and Chiefs' game and picks for the teams

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

TSN NFL Analyst Luke Willson joined OverDrive to discuss the headlines around the NFL, the NFL Conference Championships' matchups, the Bills and the Chiefs' matchup and officiating in the games, Hayes and Bro and O'Win Willson's selections and more.

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over Hazen bro. Here's Luke Wilson. Luke, how you feeling about your boy Pete Carroll getting back into the game, getting hired down with the Raiders. I mean, I'm jazzed. I'm jazzed. Makes you want to get in the gym.

So I'll speed a text message. Say, listen, you need a third string tight end locker room guy. Come get your boy. Let's go. I love that idea, man. I love that. Yeah. I don't know if I could still at my age right now, take a lot more, but seriously,

though, I am excited for Pete. Uh, I think it'll be a fun kind of venture for them. And, and I think my most exciting part is I would consider Pete like a very good head coach, obviously I'm biased. Him and Harbaugh have a poor relationship. And then also, so he's in the same division, you got Andy Reid in there. You know, those are some big name, you got Sean Payton, those are some big name guys. So it's kind of a fun division now from a coaching perspective.

I think that's probably why he got the job. I mean, he's won a Super Bowl, he's been a winner and all that. He's not a young guy, but I would guess this is Brady telling Davis, hey, you got Reid Payton Harbaugh. You can't bring in some kid. You can't bring in some guy that doesn't have any way of navigating through the AFC West. I think he's got the worst team. He's got no quarterback.

I think he's going to have a tough year coming up. But here's the thing, if you're the Raiders, if you're Raider fans, you look at it and say, well, Payton turned it around in two years, made the playoffs. Harbaugh made the playoffs his first year like I don't think Pete Carroll's got like three years to turn the ship around Luke I think he's got to do it pretty quickly it's all in drafting of the quarterback if they screw up the quarterback what is he how old is Pete 73 73 years old he

doesn't exactly have five year time period here to wait for a quarterback to develop. No Yeah, I agree guys you said it where he's got to come in there and obviously doesn't have to win the division next year But I think it'd be a very good look if he could make a couple splashes, you know Could the Raiders upset one of those teams or get a split with two of the four teams in their division? upset one of those teams or get a split with two of the four teams in their division win some games so getting that like let's call it six to eight win range if they can somehow you know which is not going to be easy for that roster but pete's known to have a couple you know tricks up his sleeve get the boys to roll in and then all of a sudden things can go from there well in terms of coaching vacancies before we get to these two games this weekend, what do you think the Cowboys are doing considering everyone else has been higher for the most

part and they still need a coach? I was surprised and I took Brian Schottenheimer, I believe is the front runner. Yep. Uh, that shocked me. I, and I gotta be careful what I say here. I was in Seattle with Brian as our OC in the 2020 year. I think 2019 and 2020, excuse me. And I like Shoddy, but it's been weird because generally head coaches,

when you get a job as a head coach, you've done like really well as an OC or DC, which Shottie has simply not. Now obviously as his dad and that sort of thing, but it's like, I don't know, you know, in Seattle we were okay, we weren't like an elite, you know, top two offense in the NFL. And then since then, it's not like he's really made a ton of splashes

in the league. So that one kind of shocked me. I really don't understand it. Yeah I think you know as much as you want to say that's nuts, et cetera, et cetera, I think the whole like Jerry wants somebody he can kind of control and not necessarily a big personality is definitely what's going on there in Dallas. No question.

No. Or, conversely, guys that actually have a presence realize they can't have it with Jerry Jones. So they take themselves out of the running. Anyone with any cache, they're like, I'm not going to work for this guy. I can't handle him. You can't keep him in line. It's not going to happen.

So in terms of what we're looking at this weekend, prior to having you on here, we're talking about the discussion that everyone's having in Buffalo, and that is the refereeing, Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City. Where do you stand on this? You played against Brady at his height. You played against Manning at their heights. Like when you get these all-time great quarterbacks, do you kind of have an understanding that that time might go to the quarterback in the eye of the

officials and you kind of got to do you prepare for that? Do you try to run from that? Like what's what's it like the buildup going into a game like this Sunday? Yeah to be completely honest I think if you're the Bills and you're on that defense, you watch film, you talk about fundamentals, talk about, hey, avoid his head, but in the same breath, you got to get after him. Like, it's funny because I look at this matchup and I say to myself, I got a feeling me and Parts here about to have to pick this thing and I say to myself, you know We've talked all year Josh Allen Superman Josh Allen Superman. Well, Mahomes also has that ability

He obviously hasn't done in a ton this year. They haven't they haven't really needed to games He's played in you know, they've managed to win 15 of them that he's played in and lost one to Josh and again, it's kind of like if you want to win in this game, I still think that you've got to like try and punish Patty Mahomes. And if that comes to the 15 yard penalty, so be it. You can't lay off or lay off again, clean. I'm not talking about anything dirty, obviously, but you can't lay off. I eat my homes, get cooking.

You simply can't do it because that's a recipe for disaster. Speaking of a recipe for disaster, there he is, my partzy, Al's brother. Al's brother, it's great to see you again in the continental portion of the country. You've been cruising around the world and it's great to see you as always. These guys always try to chip away at me earlier, what game are you going to pick? Who are you going to pick? And I wasn't going to reveal it because we earned this luxury based on how well we played through the regular season.

Okay, well let's hear it out, brother. Who are you guys going to take? What is the game? Well, I don't think that it really is that difficult of a decision, to be quite honest with you, because there's one team and one team only that's destined for success this year and it is the Buffalo Bills. So Hazy B and I are rolling with the Bills and Bills Mafia this weekend against the Kansas City Chiefs. I really

don't think it's gonna be you know that that difficult for them to win this game and it's a short line one and a half basically a pick them so it's pretty much who's gonna win or lose and I think this is the year Josh Allen gets it done the Bills had the better offensive line they got the better run game, and honestly guys, you can say otherwise, I think they got the better quarterback right now. The way that Josh Allen has been playing, he's been an MVP level all season long, and I think it continues this week against the Chiefs. I love it Alex brother. I love him.

I see, before this guy, like before they just made a fool of themselves, they didn't learn their lesson. You guys didn't learn your lesson. All year, anyone that went against the Chiefs got screwed, and I hope you do too on Sunday. Partzy, what are your thoughts? Well, I got a question. This is for Hayes and Al's bro here. You know, one of the things that's weird,

and you wanna talk about just amateurs, and you can see, Partzy, how these guys have clearly never won a regular Season because you know that I'm not gonna pick the bills You know that so why wouldn't you if you're gonna take the bills this goes back to last week I would have taken the Ravens ten times out of ten Why have you guys had two brain cells between both you you would have given us that game and you still would have been on The bills now you get to pick the other one.

Well, no. Last week would have been the same thing. You wouldn't be trailing. Because we have the stones to do it. So explain to me. Right, Ellsbrother? We have the stones to do it and the points, it's a different structure here. We can't allow you to back door points in our direction.

We got to go out and get them. We got to chase points and that's what we've done here, Ellsbrother. We had the stones to do it last week. We picked correctly and we have the stones to do it this week we're on the Bills man we I said it last week I thought whoever won the Bills Ravens game was going to go to the Super Bowl I have no reason to change that I know the Chiefs are great I know Mahomes is great but I agree with your assessment of the way Allen's playing I love the way he's controlling the ball right

now I think they win at the offensive line I think they win in the run game and I can't wait for this game I love it and we're getting points at a minimum the ways control the ball right now i think they win at the offensive line i think they win in the run game i can't wait for this game i love it we're getting points at a minimum and get points here even though it's one and a half we're getting points on that i'm not talking smack about the pit boys i don't understand why you wouldn't let me pick this game i hear you because i would have went with

the chiefs and you have the bills either way now we're going to keep a bus the layup the year. The other game is the layup of the year Oh, you think so? Oh I can't wait to hear what you guys go ahead This is you're dumb if you don't know this is the layup of the year They've got a go ahead go ahead part the line is six and a half equals minus six and a half Yeah, we're taking Philly all day. All day for fun. We're taking Philly all day. Fun! Parties over, commanders. Parties over. Oh my goodness. You guys are really

taking Philly or are you pulling a fast one on us? No, no, no. Yeah, so, no, we're taking Philly and let me explain because I know you're going to come out here and be like, Jaden Daniels, Jaden Daniels, and I kid my tap because the kid's been awesome. He's gonna be the face of this league and I think he's a stud. But let's take an honest assessment of this playoff run. Let's start with game one they had against the Bucs. Pretty evenly matched team. I would say two lower tier playoff level teams. What happens in that game? The Bucks go, they're in control, they fumble a snap, little operation issue, take advantage of it. The commanders, the Bucks then get

the ball back, march right down the field in the center, snaps the ball early, ends up being a third down sack because no one's are expecting the ball to be snapped. We give the ball, we take a field goal, we give the ball back, we lose on a last second touchdown. Okay, you beat the Bucs. The Lions came out here and puked all over themselves. Five turnovers, an absolute abomination, defense is atrocious. It was a Pee-wee level defense with the injuries. You're now going up against our guy, Vic Fangio.

You're now going up against our guy Vic Fangio. You're now going up against Jaylen Carter. And you're now going up against who I would say is the playoff MVP this far in Saquon Barkley. Oh, not to mention the best offensive line left in the playoffs right now in the Philadelphia Eagles. So if you don't think that Saquon's going for at least another buck 50, and if you think Jayden's scoring 30 on his defense, you're out of your mind. You're out of your mind. Okay. take one for a lease or bought fifty and you didn't change or thirty on the steepest you're out of your mind

you're out of your mind okay he did it six weeks ago literally six weeks ago you went and put up thirty three and say that he's going to do it and make it was dead can you take it you forget these things out brother can you take a lot of for a stop it dot that that that that was a bad day Quinn he's gonna have a toke on backwards and he's gonna be

this is why we didn't want to touch this game man because we knew what you guys were gonna do we knew you'd fall into the trap we want we were looking at kind of the commanders right house brother and we're like we were building commanders that's what we wanted building commanders and we got it and we're like these guys are gonna jump on the Eagles. And yes, Barkley concerns us. And commanders run defenses, not spectacular. But I think Dan Quinn, Jaden Daniels, and Jalen Hurts, he's going to get horny at some point and try to throw balls deep.

And I guarantee you they get hit. So you're telling me not one part of you, both of you, think the party's over for the commanders? Listen, we had a little back and forth. I'm a little bit concerned a little bit i had that we can see that means that you know the parties over for the commanders listen you can see it's i understand it rookies in the class eventually do hit

hit somewhat of a wall i mean it's not it's definitely well documented but i don't know man this guy's been so good else brother like jay daniels has been so good he's gonna keep running that same offense Yeah, and you look at you know, the two games that and look these two teams have played each other twice this year already So there is a sample size there love right like there's gonna be some gamesmanship You look at Jane Daniels in those two performances Okay

The first one he had a lingering injury and Philly ended up winning that game and Washington didn't do a whole lot But then the second time around the second time that he saw Vic Fangio's defense in in action when they were rolling I might add guy put up five touchdowns 280 yards in the on the air another 80 yards on the ground He absolutely torched that Philly defense not talk about Kenny Pickett the offense He attacked and went after Vicky bandge owes defense that was wrong i think he continues to do it again and here's what i believe is actually going to be the big key i get what's looking at the commander's run defense and say that's not too good they rank twenty eight in the NFL yards given up per carry

i think they're going to absolutely sell out to stop the run and make sure that seqon barkley doesn't put up a buck 50 and put the ball in the hands of Jalen Hurts. I don't know how healthy that guy is. You look at him in the second half of last week, he could barely walk, let alone play the game of football. And if you put the ball in his hands and he has to make a play late in the game, I don't think he's going to be able to do it.

You're giving us six and a half points. Do I think Philly can win this game by a touchdown? No, I don't. Can they win it? Can it be a late field goal possibly a touchdown? I Just don't see it happen I love being on the right side of that line. All right totals here. I was brother Bill's chiefs 48 and a half Where's your head at 48 and a half on fandals the total for this game yeah i mean i think both teams the the the manager is going to be let's run the ball let's turn the clock and keep the ball out of the hands of the other

quarterback and that's going to lead to a pretty low scoring game low possession game and i believe this one means to be under and the chiefs offense has not been explosive this year They're 11 and 7 to the under this season. I think Buffalo want to keep up and keep my homes off the field turn that clock I think this game goes under the number of 48 and a half 48 and a half. We have been burned by unders We have been consistently Leaning on unders, but I think it's gonna be cold. I think it's gonna be windy

I think there's it's gonna be a game in the trenches i could see twenty four twenty one bills i'm good to lock in the under our world run the bills in the under you guys are on the eagles in your total is forty seven and a half do you like the over or the under party i'll be complete honest with you i'm leaning under here uh... now i think you can meet these guys Vegas, this is what I think they're best at is these points.

I think they're better at that from the spread because I've got it right around here, 46 to 48. But again, the weather is supposed to be okay, I believe it is obviously going to be cold, but I could see this bad boy being like 17 to three at the half and the Eagles are just grinding out runs down the stretch here. Keeping control of the clock. Commanders are going 3 and out. We're playing a chess game and going to the Super Bowl. So I like the under, but I don't feel great about it. I don't feel great about it. Let's see what your partner has in store. I mean a handout six and a half points and take the under.

I love that logic. That's tough to do. I love that logic. That is tough to do. Oh, you're going to go over the top or just punch it in? No, I'm punching it in. I totally love it. There's been some good assessments.

Unfortunately, I do have to agree with some of the things Al's brother said, but not all of it. Mostly lies. He lies. Oh, he lies. Oh, he lies. But he lies. Oh he lies. But I love what my partner has said. We had a little powwow today and we both agreed first and foremost

that we will never speak to El's brother away from this forum and we got that straightened out immediately and we also agreed on all of our picks, all of our spreads, everything. We are set to go alright well listen I love where we're at else brother because these guys you know they're gonna screw this up and it'll be 6 5 at 6 30 p.m. on Sunday and what if the differential is too great before the

I don't think it's possible because three points are up for grabs what do you mean possible well because it's a one point spread let's say you guys let's say miraculously you guys get three points and we get none. You're up four. There's ten points up for grabs come the Super Bowl. What? Yes. Says who?

Says Dougie, the commissioner. Dougie, I know he fell asleep after he sent the initial email. Tons of points at the Super Bowl. So we're going to ride this thing out until the end of the year and have it decided by the color of the Gatorade? No. Get serious. How long the anthem is?

Get serious. There's going to be props. The total is going to be up for grabs. There's going to be the spread, and then there's going to be quarterback props, running back props, like real, actually in the game stuff. Real stuff, right? I agree. You know what's like the it

talk to me talk to me boys and i don't want to figure after the book it is here it's gotten personal and we're on the verge of don't get on you to mop it yeah i don't want to be burned by a coin point that again as well okay so i don't think it's not a lot of stuff out there is going to let me jump in here. I think before everything, we should probably get Dougie involved as well, but you guys have to lay out some ground rules right now heading into this weekend and heading into

the Super Bowl because what I've seen in the group chat is nobody's on the same page and all of a sudden it's like, oh, well that it's like all well that wasn't agreed upon that wasn't agreed upon and then there's fighting in fighting and then there's some language that is unacceptable and then you guys are you know get mad each other yes to me you've got a lot in lay it out right now flush it out so that we know exactly the rules for the rest of this season so that at the end with somebody wins ago

well that was changed by dutyie because he's a scumbag. Yeah we've got like Jay Monahan's our commissioner right now it's everything's completely out of whack. He is a scumbag though Noodle. Here's the way I see it okay one team takes the spread one team takes the total okay so that that's gonna be on one side of it then i think there's a there's a quarterback prop for each team a running back prop a wide receiver prop a tight end prop that's four more right off the bat those are real players that are in the game like legitimate fandual how about this we keep it simple haze the two that you just mentioned

the over under and the spread and then you get to pick your other two and that's it You know how many points you want up for grabs in the Super Bowl like how many how many are up for grabs for each team? I think four points could go up for the grabs in the Super Bowl. Okay four or six four six We is there any way we can do this like almost like a reveal because what I get a bit anxious about here It's like for the spread. Let's say hypothetically just because I want our teams to win. It's Philly verse the Chiefs So I'd like to kind of go on the show and be like, hey

We picked Philly or the Chiefs based on the spread Well, and we pick here's our points and here's our three best props whatever it is what happens if both of us are like oh we want Patrick Mahomes overthrowing and it's like oh no you guys are allowed to have that you're not well I understandably I mean I think it probably this is where Doogie's got to figure this out and I would say Doogie has until 3 p.m. on Sunday to determine exactly what's going on here.

Could be some kind of trivia between Luke and Al's brother, whoever gets the question, gets to pick the first prop. Okay. Oh, I love that. That is something we'd be willing to accept. We'd be willing to accept. I think, again, spread and total will be split. One team will get the spread, the other will get the total. I think that's just fair. We've been doing spreads and totals the whole time.

And then the props, yeah, we could get a little bit crazy if you want. We could drop it out. Doogie will supply. Let's say again, it's Kansas City against the Eagles. They'll be a Mahomes prop. They'll be a Hertz prop. One team will get Mahomes, the other will get Hertz. And then one team will get AJ Brown, the other will get whoever it is. So that's the like that's the way it's gonna go and do you've got to three p m on sunday

and there needs to be a lawyer reading this over because i don't have a lot of times hawker and then yes johnnie hawker and i have a lot of a space a lawyer of significance to read through that contract because i don't want any funny business sounds good stay loud stagery to read through that contract because I don't want any funny business. Alright? Sounds good. Stay loud and stay proud. I agree. Alright, the picks are in. Hazenbrough, we're on the Bills plus one and a half and the under 48 and a half and Owen Wilson on the Eagles minus six and a half and under 47 and a half. Those spreads and totals all courtesy of Fandel of fandol so the picture i feel so great they're kind of so this is why we gave them washington philly hoping they would

take philly and the under you guys are great idiots you feel great to realize i'm so i don't know why i have on my team and that's yeah we love or so that i got out of that two times super bowl champ a regular season winner that's what i have a regular is lawyer and i think you know forty-four distinct and it's under all i'm saying is we might pop the champagne and because we're on patty

mohomes to basically cover by two superman shows up and we clenched we clench the way we're talking party out the on sunday can't wait at the booze ready also are training and for that celebrate take a look at the heart of the rest of the closet shed paid for wildcard burst that baseball materials that was what i do and that with that i can't discuss backdoor with eighty nine wins in the wild card popping champagne

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