OverDrive - Willson on the Patriots' big win in Buffalo, the Ravens downward stretch and the MNF matchup

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

TSN NFL Analyst Luke Willson joined OverDrive to discuss the headlines around Week 5 in the NFL, the Patriots' SNF win against the Bills, the Ravens rough stretch and if they can make the playoffs, th...e Jets' winless start, the Cardinals' defeat to the Titans, O'Win Willson's selection and more.

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Starting point is 00:00:45 We went one in one with our picks, and it was a Sam Darnold off the head into a dude's arms was what jammed us. Like, we went two and oh, two great picks. You went, you're two and one on the weekend. Thursday was one of the worst picks of all time. Not the best. Not our greatest, but that's fine. We were on the clock today. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Tied up, we're on the clock. I couldn't ask for much more. It did go. It was weird that it did go off a guy's head and then right into his arm. Like that was, that was a weird play. I didn't see the, live, I didn't see the deflection off the head. I had to see it on the replay, but that was a weird play. It was very strange, but Seattle's got to be kicking themselves right now because it shouldn't have got.
Starting point is 00:01:27 If Sam Darnel plays that well, we shouldn't get at home. I know Tampa's good, and Baker looked incredible. Baker's my boy, and you know it. Hang on a second year. I love Baker Mayfield. Talk to me. It's like Baker talk, like MVP kind of conversation.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Like, is that stuff real? It's real right now, for sure. Every time I hear Baker, and I know Hayes kind of liked them the last couple years, but it seems like it's good, but it's just going to implode somewhere down the line. Like, that stuff's real Baker Mayfield? I know it's kind of one of those things where you're like, it's hard to fathom that. But the way he's planning through for 3.79, he had four total incompletions yesterday.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I think he was 29 of 33. The Seahawks secondary is beat up, but still, I mean, that's considered a very good defense. And Baker did whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted. Oh, by the way, he didn't have his best receiver in Mike Evanson and didn't have his first string running back in Bucky Irving. Right. Again. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:02:24 The fact that we got jammed on that part, see, we should have been 2 and 0. I'm hurt. Well, can we point out how beautiful those uniforms are too for both teams? The Seahawks, bucks, like the unies, were so pure. Oh, they were so pure yesterday.
Starting point is 00:02:39 What did you think of Buffalo's white out? It's okay. I'd love it. And they played like it. Like, what was that performance last night? Tell me. Listen, guys, like, and I got to
Starting point is 00:02:52 like choose my words carefully here. But Buffalo is not, they are a juggernaut. They are one of the best seems because of Josh Allen, their roster is not a loaded juggernaut of talent. You look at offensively, I mean, who's their next best weapon outside of Josh? Probably James Cook. Like I think James Cook's unbelievable, but I'm not putting him in the Sequin.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I know he's having a hard year, Derek Henry's CMC category. You look at their receiving core, like the guy I was really hoping would be great for them was Josh Palmer. He doesn't even play half the time. So you got Shakir. Kincaid looked great last night, but he's been very, very. hit her miss, Keon Coleman. They're a team full of good players, but outside of Josh, and Ed Oliver would be the other guy who's
Starting point is 00:03:36 not playing. Milano's back, but those two guys are the superstars, everybody else is a very talented NFL player. I don't know, everyone expected them just go in and, what, win by 100? I mean, you guys had the spread out. Well, yeah, we picked the pets and credit the Patriots. I mean, they played well last night. They did. They played really well. Vrable has turned that team around. Clearly, they are a lot better than they were under-draud Mayo under the last few years of bill.
Starting point is 00:04:02 It's a tough divisional game, and Buffalo turned the ball over. Again, it's not like Buffalo is going to win by 40 and can withstand a bunch of turnovers, one of which was in the red zone. You know, it just is the nature of the beast. You're playing another good team. You turn the ball over. You're going to lose.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Quick question. I mean, was Diggs a big part of that? He looked like he was good teammate, high-five. Like, I mean, what do you make of his whole situation there? Noodles, even before the game, I'm like, yo, this guy was, I know it was hot last night. Shout out Dave Naylor, Dave Naylor had on the golf shirt going, I love that. He was sweating bullets before the game. Sweating, I've never seen anything like it.
Starting point is 00:04:42 This guy was like drip leaking sweat. And generally, when you see that, it's the big boys. To see a wide receiver, I'm like, this guy looked locked in. I mean, he had a million catches last night. I do think Sifon Diggs, if he can be that true race or Drake May, and then you pair that with Hunter Henry, that's kind of a nasty combo. This throwout here was outrageous. This throw out here was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Yeah, that's a revenge game for Diggs. I mean, last year in Houston was not fun for him. Totally, and I'll say this again. I'm not trying to, you know, build this Patriots team up to anything more than they are. I think they're a very good football team. I wouldn't put them as a contender right now whatsoever. But they are being built to withstand. stand very tight games.
Starting point is 00:05:27 You look at what they do well. Coming into last night, they were one of the best teams in the league against the run, yards per carry, I'm speaking. Their past defense was not great. Last night it was a little bit better. Josh still threw for a decent amount of yards. But it's like they can stop the run.
Starting point is 00:05:43 They kind of have three running backs. So they had three. It looks like Gibson's going to be out for a bit. You got two guys there. They run the football okay. And now they've got a receiver and digs. It's kind of doing everything. And they got a very good pass catching tight-in and Hunter Henry. this is not a joke anymore. The Patriots are no longer
Starting point is 00:05:58 laughing stock of the NFL. Yeah, they look good last night. Who is more finished? The New York Yankees or the Baltimore Ravens? The Ravens are more finished. It's not even close. I mean, let's go to the Yankees route. Let's go to the Yankees road.
Starting point is 00:06:14 They're certainly backs against the wall. But you've got to figure if Rodon can pull something out of his sleeve in the Bronx and they win game three. Well, that's the biggest thing. They need to find someone who can actually strike somebody out. Totally, totally. Like, their pitching has just been torched. You would think that if they find a way to win game three,
Starting point is 00:06:32 I don't even say they're going to do it, but the advantage would be in New York's favor for four because I believe it's a bullpen game. It's going to be for the Jays and Schlittler's going for the Yankees. And you would hope Schlittler can repeat the performance. Right. But, I mean, the Js are obviously in a great spot. So if you ask me that question, I would say,
Starting point is 00:06:48 not that the Yankees are going to win in five here, but the big issue is the Ravens are jammed. They're done, right? Cuts. Like they're finished. Okay. I mean, you, they're, what happened there, man? Like, I know Lamar, but injured, but what the hell's going on?
Starting point is 00:07:03 Beyond Lamar, their defense is horrible. On all three levels, when you lose Mad Bouquet, who I think might have been their best offensive player, that's tough. You know, imagine taking out that guy in any defense is going to be very, very hard to come back from, but their secondaries banged up and hasn't played well. Their linebackers are banged up and haven't played well, and their defense, They can't stop the run. They can't stop the pass.
Starting point is 00:07:27 I believe every single team they've played has had, like, their highest scoring total of the year. Houston's not even a good offense and shredded them. Yeah. CJ Stroud had struggled all year and looked like... He looked like 23. Instead of 43, like he claims it was. A lot of people picked them.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Yeah, the Ravens were the team, man. They were the team, man. And then everybody picked them to win it. So the defense has been horrible. And then the other... That's shocking part is offensively, they've struggled to run. run the football. And so now you got Cooper Rush back there with no run game and you're giving up 50 points
Starting point is 00:08:01 a game, not 50, let's call it. Yeah. They've almost given up 40 every game. Yeah, it feels like they're. Now, I guess the silver lining is, all of a sudden, their division is a disaster because the Bengals are even more cooked. They are horrendous. And the Browns are horrendous.
Starting point is 00:08:18 The only team they can beat is the Packers. And then you look at the Steelers and you're like, man, that guy's 42 playing quarterback. That's the thing. Aaron's got to stay healthy. But you got to think. It might be eight or nine wins, wins that division, possibly. I think Pittsburgh gets over 10.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Okay. They have a very weak schedule. I'm with you. If you look at Pittsburgh schedule, it's very, very weak. I'm with you. I think they do, and I think as of now, obviously the odds on favor to win it.
Starting point is 00:08:43 But would it be, like, out of the realm of possibility, they finish eight and nine? Like, is that crazy? No, it's not crazy. It's not. That the Steelers are eight and nine, which means if you're the Ravens,
Starting point is 00:08:54 You get through next week and get to the buy. But next week is the Rams. Right, and they're going to lose. That's what you would assume. They're going to be one in five, I guess, at that point. Yes, and this is where, like, this is kind of the fun part of football, but you're run out of games. Right. Can they get to 10?
Starting point is 00:09:08 Can they get to 9 and 8? Is it impossible for the Ravens? They've got to end up going 8 and 3 in their last 11 if they lose next week. Right. And then you start to, like, do the math. Obviously, with Lamar healthy, they can do that. But the tough part is the defense is so. bad. So Lamar's
Starting point is 00:09:26 going to have to come out and go on a generational offensive run. They're going to have to score 35 every game. And that might not even be enough. It's like the Bengals last year, basically. Yes. And that wasn't enough. And to go 8 and 3 to win 8 of 11 is not an easy task for anyone. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy to think that Baltimore is going to potentially miss the playoffs by a few games. Yeah. I know. Here's the next one. Again, I was going through it last night. I'm scratched in my head. I obviously think Buffalo is going to win the division.
Starting point is 00:09:59 But I think New England's got a shot to make the playoffs. Their schedule is a joke. Yeah. Miami's brutal. The Jets are horrible. They have O.N. 17. They got destroyed yesterday. They got crushed by everyone who's ever supported the Jets yesterday
Starting point is 00:10:18 said they just don't even care. This is garbage. They have O'N17 vibes. I'm fairly certain the stats still holds. They have not created a turnover yet. And this is a defensive head coach. Aaron Gwynne. I know.
Starting point is 00:10:33 It was a defensive coordinator. Like, that screams one and done. If we dug into it, though, is there a realistic chance that they go 0 in 17, or is there some form of a layup in there? Let me go through their schedule. Yeah, because maybe there's a win. in there.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I can probably find one here. Broncos next week, no. Panthers. Potentially. Maybe. But that's a good shot. I mean, for them. That's a coin flip.
Starting point is 00:11:03 That's at home, too. They could get the Panthers. Winning yesterday was the biggest gong show I've ever said. I know. Between the guy dropping the ball in the end zone and then the story, that was, excuse me, that was the Tigers Tennessee. Tennessee winning, not. But the Panthers beat Miami was also just.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Right. Miami puked all over them. Well, did you see Mike McDaniel, Walking through the corridor, like he just, and it was a dead man walking. There's a cab waiting for him. Like, he is dead man walking, for sure. But these running backs and just dropping the ball before they get to the end zone and leading to, like, it's just, it's crazy. So the biggest find from the team, whatever you can do, like, that is just so stupid when you're that close.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Just take two steps. Guys, the next thing that it's gotten bizarre, and believe it or not, I did have a couple long ones. so I did this personally. We're like right now, if you're watching this, if I'm him, I'm looking up at the Jumbotron. Like I remember I had one in Arizona, and I had kind of, it ended up being 80 yards, and with 20 yards out,
Starting point is 00:12:06 I'm looking at the big screen going into the end zone to see who's behind me. Is somebody coming to get me? So the idea that not only he drops it, but he has no clue that, you know, if there's another two yards in that thing, it's probably punched out. Right, he's not even paying attention to that.
Starting point is 00:12:22 That extent. Not alone the Jumbotron, do you not hear the guy breathing? Yeah, that too. Like, come on. Again, from my personal experience on this thing, every time, which unfortunately wasn't a ton, but the times I broke runs that I was going to score, it was like immediately no one's around me, full sprint here, and look up who is someone chasing me down and run into the end zone.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Like you can't, and he's the guy, too, like this, it's not Sequin Barclay. he's not going to get a million touchdowns in this league. Well, Gannon almost killed him. And like, I think smacked him in the chest. Yeah, I almost killed him. Like, what's the reaction to that? Like a player, a coach, you know, touching a player. That I thought was strange.
Starting point is 00:13:09 But I also am a little biased there. I find everything Gannon does strange. He's a weird guy. And it's a bit weird. Like football, to me, you've got guys that are motivators. You know, I never played for Dan Campbell, but he certainly seems like one. Even though it's a polar opposite, I would call Pete Carroll, one of the best motivators I've ever been around. He better start motivating.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Oh, big time. Shambles over there. A mess. But then when you get these, like, super nerds that are trying to, like, raw, raw guys, it's like, hey, man, you're not really. It's not natural. You're not a raw, raw guy. Yeah. You know, you can't be shoving guys.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Like, you haven't been there done that. Like, stop. Yeah. Yeah, it looked like I saw some people. wondering again without knowing what he said it didn't it didn't look to me like he was trying to build him up no look like he was furious totally some people were saying what if he was going over saying like head up stop being a baby over here you screwed up but let's go we got a game to win because they were still in the driver's seat until that final that one
Starting point is 00:14:10 touchdown was the dumbest thing I've ever seen how you lose to tennis here's what's crazy oh and I lost a ticket in our survivor pool oh no we were on the cardinals and we were down we got one team still left but one pick was the Cardinals and I was going to text and be like we're home free this is done here it is here it is this is the craziest thing I've seen a while so we get
Starting point is 00:14:32 to the scramble it's a three man rush we saw someone it gets tipped blatant pick no one even fumble the kid is what kills me for me and O to be done like that's the the touch back into
Starting point is 00:14:48 the end zone and then and then the kick though. Look at this kick coming at there. The kick is wild and then the same guy then bats it into the end zone. It's just crazy that Arizona found a way to lose that game. Like it's almost impossible for them to do that. Parts, you talked about them last week saying maybe it's time to look at what they're doing there and blow the whole thing up. Maybe that game is the answer where it's like, that's enough of you guys. I honestly, again, going into the year, there's a lot of hype, Arizona, Arizona, and the NFC West.
Starting point is 00:15:18 and I'm like, I've got them cemented as the fourth best team, the NFC West. I've got them cemented as the fourth best. I mean, they can scramble around a little bit, do some off-schedule stuff, but are we ever going to see, you look at when the Rams get hot right now on offense, run game, play action, Matthew Stafford shots, he's got weapons. Do you ever see that kind of rhythm or fluidity out of the Arizona Cardinals in offense? Well, and wouldn't, I'm sure you appreciate this, like if you're Trey McBride, aren't you just demanding out of that spot?
Starting point is 00:15:48 Got to. I think he has, I think he has, he had one touchdown last year. I don't think he's got one this year. Like, he is a stud, that kid. Stud. And just nothing, man. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:00 It's tough sledding over there. Yeah, it is. It is. At least they're living in Arizona, though. That is a benefit that you do get to play in Arizona. Here's a question. You guys think I'm wrong? Who do you think is worse off?
Starting point is 00:16:10 The Ravens or the Yankees? I'm still stuck on that. Yeah. I mean, it probably is, I don't know, man. Yankees because of the magnitude of the situation. The Ravens can go, they've got the injury. Who's injured on the Yankees?
Starting point is 00:16:25 They're just playing terrible. And the Jays are out playing him. At least the Ravens have a built-in somewhat excuse. I'll tell you what, too. Freed, getting smoked is a dagger. Well, here's the thing, like, the Jays have hit him hard his whole career. Yeah. And they faced him multiple times this year.
Starting point is 00:16:42 It torched him. And the Yankee fans so oblivious to that to like, oh, Freed, we got freed, we got freed, We got freed on the mount. He can't strike these guys out. He has not struck them out all year. And they destroyed him yesterday. So money, every other team you watch him. You're like, that guy is an absolute stud and nobody has a chance.
Starting point is 00:17:01 The guy plays the Jays and he's a gong show? How is that possible? I don't know. They got his number, man. They have his number. And here's why I might say Yankees, because they have less time. Like you mentioned it, yes, you're running out of games with the Ravens. But you still do him.
Starting point is 00:17:18 have a certain amount. And like JP just said on Fanduel, take this for what it's worth, the Ravens are still favored to win the division. That's insanity. Minus 105. That's insanity. That's because that's what are they going to draw? Do they go to one in five? They're still going to be favored? Well, it's a two-team race. Like Cincinnati's not doing it. Cleveland's not doing it. I agree but Cincinnati's got more wins than they do. I know. And Cleveland, I thought Gabriel looked okay. I thought I was actually impressed. Look pretty good.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Yeah. But it's, I guess that's, it's more about Will Pittsburgh come back to Earth than could Baltimore come alive? I mean, I guess that's a part of it. But anyway, let's get to the games tonight. Speaking of Fander, what is it? Chiefs minus three and a half? Still minus three and a half against the Jags tonight. This is a tough game, man.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Jags have played better. Jags have played pretty well this year. Yeah, I'm not buying it. No, you're on the Chiefs? I'm not buying it. You look at, they beat the Texans. They beat the Texans. Loss of the Bengals of Joe Burrow.
Starting point is 00:18:13 The big win is against the Niners. There's not a, of the three wins, The Niners one is legit. Niners are banged up. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not buying parts. I'm not buying it. There's just no way I can go in and it's only three and a half.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Take Trevor Lawrence. That's what I was going to say. Parts sometimes you just break it down to one individual matchup. And like somebody said last week, what was your little saying there, Hazy? Know who you are betting with? Four. Number one rule, know who you're betting for as opposed to who you're betting against. That's valid.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Here, you're betting for the Chiefs. Totally. I mean, that makes sense. I got you. I can't. There's no world in which I could... I mean, it could happen. I didn't think Baker would throw for $3.80 against the Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Man, Baker's legit, dude. He is very... Very legit. Okay, I read this online today. And I don't agree with it. But I was like, dang. They've got a point. Should Dak Prescott be in the MVP conversation?
Starting point is 00:19:11 Statistically, he's right there. They're two, two, and one. You would have thought after five games that that Dallas Cowboys team with that defense would be 500? I would have said you were insane. Yeah. Yeah. Back has been lights out this year. He's getting a lot of
Starting point is 00:19:27 love south of the border, man. They're loving Dax action. Dack is loving Dax action. They got to make the playoffs for him to clearly be in contention. And I don't think they will. I mean, not with that defense. I still don't. And Cid Lambs out and kind of smoking mirrors. Could be. A little bit.
Starting point is 00:19:43 He's ripping right now. He looks good. He always looks good at home. Yeah. Like, I'm not worried about DAC, like, in Dallas. I'm worried about DAC in November and December on the road. Totally. What does that look like? I'll believe that when I see it. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:57 You guys are on the Chiefs? Lock it in. Al's brother will be chirping away. I'm sure he loves the Jags tonight. He's such a hero. He gets in that group chat and just, you know, he starts to be such a hero. When you guys caught up yesterday, there was some comments. Oh, Alice brother is a frontrunner.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Listen, he picked winners. yesterday. Every time the loss, he just can't believe something happened. I can't believe that guy did that. I can't believe that guy did that. That's my toughest part. It's like, the Vikings had no business keeping that game that close. They miss
Starting point is 00:20:30 a brutal field goal, which I think hit the wire. I don't know if you saw that online. It's like, man, we were covering that spread all day. And he comes in, I can't believe that happened. I'm like, really? I know. You can't believe the Browns blew a lead? He could never believe when we lose.
Starting point is 00:20:46 What a surprise. He is flabbergasted. Yeah, he is truly flabbergasted when we lose. But when we win, man, is he happy? Unbelievable. He is a happy, happy camper. All right. Well, we'll catch you tonight on the group chat.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Good luck. Can't wait. Chiefs of the pick. Can't wait. Jags, I guess we're riding with the Jags, Al's brother. Connect with you soon. There he is, Luke Wilson. Seasoned gamer or just video game curious,
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