OverDrive - Willson on the Super Bowl matchup, the Eagles and Chiefs' game and Hayes and Bro and O'Win Willson's picks

Episode Date: February 8, 2025

TSN NFL Analyst Luke Willson joined OverDrive to discuss the headlines around the NFL, the Super Bowl matchup between the Eagles and Chiefs, the experience playing in the game, Hayes and Bro and O'Win... Willson's Super Bowl picks and more.

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Starting point is 00:00:30 This is the man, what the Ruin Wilson is cooking. Nice to have a pro athlete. Didn't see that one coming. Here he is. Nice to have him. A pro athlete joining us. Luke Wilson. What are you guys up to? We haven't heard from you all week What's going on down in New Orleans? Boys, I'm gonna be completely honest with you here. I'm in an absolute battle with the city of New Orleans right now I'm in an absolute battle what happened? This place sucks
Starting point is 00:01:00 I'll be honest. This is by far I can I'm never coming back here first off It's just I mean, I don't know what I'm allowed to say and not allowed to say in the show. It is not a it's It's dirty. It smells funky. I mean There's a lot of bad things going on around. That's a dump Terrible so the weird thing no parts is like the odd Street like you walk everywhere It's a dump dude. I'm gonna leave it. Yeah, it's a dump. Thank you. It's terrible. The weird thing though, Parks, is like the odd street, like you walk everywhere, it's
Starting point is 00:01:28 the odd street. I'm like, oh man, this looks like super historic, really cool. No dude. And then you turn the next corner and you're like, oh my God. I mean, I'm walking around now at 6'5", 240, still feeling pretty violent at times. I'm like looking over my shoulder like, man. Dude, I don't know where I am right now, but it's not great. I watch crying TV, bro, and that place is,
Starting point is 00:01:49 there's a lot of episodes, man. Okay, the worst part is, right now, I think is what happened, obviously, for the college game, but every single corner has like, military personnel with AR-15s in like I'm just like bro if we need all this action here I shouldn't be here I don't really want to be here for this that's uncomfortable I do think there's something I think it's a little deeper than that too because Trump is going to the game yeah so I think it's
Starting point is 00:02:19 also partially like we're we're getting there early to make sure no one's here staking something out I love seeing something out. I love seeing that I Honestly, I love seeing that I'm like I'm free to kind of walk but it is unsettling when you're literally military on the streets Like where are we here with anyway? Let's get positive. Yeah, come on. Let's get come on now. Okay That's on me. No, you're right though, man Listen, I've been taking heat from people because I've been saying it's felt like a muted Super Bowl week and I've referenced New Orleans. And what I've meant by that is it's not Vegas.
Starting point is 00:02:52 It's not like when the Super Bowl went back to LA, it was significant. The Rams are there. The Chargers are there now. When it goes to random cities like Detroit, you know, it goes to New York, like it's just, it's different. Where if it's New Orleans, Miami, Arizona it's just they're just routine and they're I don't know it's just not the same feel I find even though I'm not actually even in the city but um yes I don't know if you would you know concur with that thought but
Starting point is 00:03:18 anyway as for how we're feeling getting closer to the game the spread it's still minus one and a half chiefs on Fandl. I have seen it move in some books though, but from that standpoint, Luke, are you surprised? Like it opened at one and a half, it has not moved. Like it feels like people are just kind of committed to this being a great game between the chiefs and the Eagles. I'm not surprised Hayes. And to be completely honest with you,
Starting point is 00:03:44 I am really looking forward to this. I think it's gonna be an excellent chess match. I would say that outside of two positions and those positions are quarterback and head coach, I would probably consider giving the nod to every other position group to the Philadelphia Eagles. Tight end is one where I think Dow Scotters and unsung hero obviously had probably go Kelsey as well.
Starting point is 00:04:10 But you look at offensive line versus Eagles offensive line, it's not even close. KC versus Philadelphia. Running backs, not even close. Wide receivers, not even the same stratosphere. You go to the other side of the ball. Obviously KC has Chris Jones. Jaylen Carter's a younger guy, so I'm not saying he's Chris Jones,
Starting point is 00:04:29 but as a whole, you're taking the Philadelphia Eagles D line 10 times out of 10 at line backer, you know, Zach bond at an unbelievable year. The series of Canada for defensive player of the year, you're taking Philadelphia and DBs. That's probably the next debatable, but I would say that it's very, very close and you could kind of pick either or there. So it is, you know, on paper, you sit there and say, as a team, Philadelphia is much deeper.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And then Nick Vanjo is obviously incredible. We love to talk about him. Steve Spagnol also our guy. We love to talk about him, butagnol also our guy we love to talk about him but we're the mismatches Holmes vs. Hertz and you know Andy Reid vs. Kellen Moore slash Nick Sirianni and those are two important positions. Parts you played in two Super Bowls what is like how did you control your nerves because everybody says it's a load of crap. You just got to play it like it's another game.
Starting point is 00:05:27 The simple fact of the matter is it's not. Like how did you control your nerves where you're like, I've got to play good and got to be relaxed somehow and you're just, you're going nuts on the inside. It's funny, Parks, because the first one that we won was easier for me. I was a rookie and I was our second string guy. So I'm sitting there, I'm like, I'm getting 20 snaps today, I'm playing a little bit of special teams, you know, and I kind of knew what I was getting in for. You're obviously prepped in case somebody in front of you goes down.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Where the second one, it was, I was our main guy and I'm like, listen, I'm getting 80, 85% of these snaps today today I'm playing special teams like I got a huge role in this thing and It's tough, but it does get to the point where it takes you this for me Both or five plays to settle in you know You kind of get that first taste of blood you get hit in the face a little bit and you're like all right You got to sit here and in lock in, it is another game at that point. But the funny thing is, I don't know if this happens in hockey, I'm sure it does, but in football,
Starting point is 00:06:33 you get guys that are extremely talented, but they don't play hard every play. You know, and what happens is in the NFL, in the Super Bowl, that doesn't happen. So it's funny because even watching film going into this thing, it's not like, hey man, I'm watching the week 14 film when these guys are on the road
Starting point is 00:06:56 in a game that they're up and dudes are taking plays off. Like you gotta kinda be ready for the opposing team's best punch. Like everybody is really hyped up, if that makes sense. So that was kind of another aspect of it, where it's like, hey, we always use the saying, like, if this is a Super Bowl, I would play through this injury.
Starting point is 00:07:14 If this is a Super Bowl, I would've done this or done that, or I would've risked my leg, or whatever the saying is. And it's like, well, we're here now. Let's see who's actually gonna put their neck on the line. So that was another kind of fun energy you kind of navigate while you're playing that game. All right, so let's get to it here. All right, it's been a buildup all season long.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Al's brother and I have put forth one of the great performances in gambling history with what we did in the regular season. And the fact that we're in the hunt come Super Bowl, because we were parading for the wild know wildcard week and we didn't pay attention with one darts yeah uh... but we're in this it out of here and it's a beautiful beautiful setup it was ever it was ever
Starting point is 00:07:53 deemed the champion of this weekend the other two have to say simultaneously we suck we're losers and we're not as good as you okay all agreement agreed we're losers and we're not as good as you okay all agreement agreed you know agreed agreed fine let's do it and when you lose our three were all three you guys are three points what this on your head to next time
Starting point is 00:08:13 you're in the area put that clown what is that uh... a wig wig i guess a clown wig doing here that's do these do these get a weird thing going on with clowns right now uh... all right so do you use a commissioner and Doogie has done a great, great job here of setting up the rules and regulations, all right? So you guys are gonna pick the spread, we're gonna pick the total. Those will be worth two points. Obviously it's just like we did throughout the playoffs. If you guys get it right, you get the two
Starting point is 00:08:40 points. If you don't, it's dead. That doesn't mean we get the points, all right? The same type of point system and then we're gonna have different props and we have a couple of props are i guess technically off the board so to speak i will explain those as we go forward but you guys are on the clock to start here chiefs minus one and a half for two points he morn wilson you get to pick the spread who are you taking in why
Starting point is 00:09:02 party go ahead we had we can't went back and forth about this week on the final decision floors yours and i've gone back and forth in the saw we could i do expect a very very tight game and like i said earlier at the end of the day you got my homes you got andy. You got the three Pete on the line All the hype everything going on and that's why parts and I are on the same page and we're picking the Philadelphia Eagles Wow. Explain something about football. Okay. Let me explain it very, very closely. Go ahead, Parks. Okay, at the end of the day, there's all the flash.
Starting point is 00:09:48 You can have all the X and O's in the world. And I can't say this on the show. I can't say it because there's a profanity. But there's one thing that reigns true about football at all levels. If you have a team that's going to come out and play four quarters of blank, it's a four-letter word, it's profanity. Blank you, football. That team's going to come out and play four quarters of blank. It's a four letter word. It's profanity blank you football.
Starting point is 00:10:07 That team is going to win. The Johnny's and Joe's will overcome the X's and O's. And those Johnny's and Joe's are the Eagles offensive line and the best player in the NFL this season. And his name is Saquon Barkley. And it's not close. It's not close. You look at you look at Kansas City's defense. They've been good at bending, not close. It's not close. You look at Kansas City's defense.
Starting point is 00:10:26 They've been good at bending, not breaking. But you know what they haven't been great at this year? Total yards. Saquon is a man on a mission. They stop the 3P at worse. Mahomes comes, I can see this. Mahomes comes down, wins the game by one. You know, maybe it's a two point conversion.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And we still cover. That hook's going to save us. We're taking the Eagles. Okay. Listen, I'm on the Eagles, Al's brother. I think you and I would have been on the Eagles if we had this pick. I do like that pick, but I also don't have an issue with... We're riding Mahomes. And Andy Reid. That's the beauty of it. You can't lose here. You can't. And we, countless times, Haz hazy b have bet against my homes and it's been a semi-ass each and every time that's right over here again so you guys would have been on the arms of the hills we would have been how could
Starting point is 00:11:12 we be doing that again we are as a show collectively the four of us are so stupid i will say this though and and you tell me if i'm wrong here but you know the stats out there it's been there all week long seventeen straight wins when the game is settled by touchdown one score the chiefs have won that football game so if the eagles are going to cover and
Starting point is 00:11:33 win this game they better blow them out you think that's possible so i would say this i i think a lot of it's going to depend on the first quarter really first half because when he will get absolutely jammed here is that they're chasing, you know, if this Eagles defense has to or office has to chase and now we're throwing the ball more, we will get absolutely annihilated and I will have to come on the show on Monday and where the dunce cap is the world's biggest
Starting point is 00:12:00 dummy. I really do believe though, and it might take a quarter, but I do believe that Saquon is gonna get, he's gonna get nasty. This man's gonna be running the football. I think the offensive line's gonna come to play. Again, like I don't know how you stop this run game. No one has even come close.
Starting point is 00:12:20 They scored 55 against the commanders. Now obviously the commander's defense, not great. But it's like, man, this is a team, this Eagles team, correct me if I'm wrong here, Alex brother. They started the year, I believe two and two, a couple of suspect losses. Since then they have lost one game and that game was the commander's who they recently beat the breaks off of and Kenny Pickett played in the game they lost. I think that this team, again, it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:12:51 about all the motions, the roller coasters, Jaylen Perch throwing the ball, whatever, it's like man, we've got Saquon, we've got the best offensive line in the NFL, both a pill, run it down their throats, Shaquan Barkley does it. Okay, Eagles minus or plus one and a half. Now the total, Hazenborough, we're on the total 48 and a half. We have been leaning on the unders throughout the playoffs and getting crushed. Where's your head at,
Starting point is 00:13:17 Al's brother? We got to trust the process. We're roping the under here. I think we got to trust the process and it's exactly what Luke just said. I think they are going to hand the rock off on Philly. I think you look at the way Mahomes and that offense has done. They have been able to just churn clock, dink and dunk themselves down the field, limit possessions and that's how I think this football game is going to go. I think it's going to be a low scoring one possession game and I think we see something in the 24-21 maybe 27-21 range and I just think that we're gonna see this thing creep below the under. I think
Starting point is 00:13:54 also you look at the Super Bowls a lot of the betting total likes to bet with the over which pushes it and inflates it a tad so I think going against the grain. Oh yeah the books are dying for the under here. Yeah, where you want to go. Yeah, listen, we've been rope-a-doping the under throughout the whole process. And I kind of lean Eagles in the under. That's kind of where I'm at. We got the number one, like two of the top five defenses in the NFL. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Exactly. I think there'll be some easing in here you know that the my my concern is going for don fort downs and then grabbing some extra points at times but forty eight has a pretty big number for two defense that are that are this doubt and i do think the run game is going to be important on both sides let's lock it in for two points under the number forty eight and a half alright props let's fire through these owen wilson on my home's passing yards over under 250.5
Starting point is 00:14:45 each prop worth one point over under 250.5 yards. We gotta go over. I hate the way I hate the way Kansas City runs football. I do not think they're very efficient. We think Philly's gonna win. It might be gross at first, but at some point for riding Philly to win, Mahomes is gonna be down. He's got to throw the football.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Vic D'Angelo has his own defenses. Mahomes will come out, be able to shred that. I think he hits 250. In the game we're hoping for, he hits 250 still. Okay. I love it. I love it. All right. Lock it in. Over Mahomes. Hazenbrough, we're on Jalen Hurts passing yards total. 211.5. Al's brother, we like the run game we like the under
Starting point is 00:15:25 what do we like here i had to think we go over on this one now and and and and here i don't hear me out here and i think i'm not getting what i really got to tell us quickly i don't think they could be chasing the game and if that's the case they gotta move the football you you give yourself one or two explosive plays down the field the a j brown dallas goddard gets himself loose you get a nice long screen with Saquon that's gonna pad the numbers 211 is a pretty low number well I think you get it I mean he throws for 215 that's not a great game from a quarterback you do for
Starting point is 00:15:56 330 against spags and this team two years ago in the Super Bowl I think 212 plus is very plausible and listen Barkley can have a big game in the catching game as well, right? Yak, we saw that against Washington, right? Went off for, we've seen that countless times throughout the year. If they've ran like 12, like Koss said, 12 or 13 screenplays, they've like doubled the amount of screenplays in the playoffs. Well, Yak, we need screenplays and we need Yak and that's what's coming. We're taking the over at Jalen Hurts. Alright, you guys are on Saquon Barclays rushing yards 109.5 is a massive number what's 109.5 for him okay what are you taking over under they mean this is the easiest pick of the day oh this thing might hit a half okay you're over under
Starting point is 00:16:40 you're going over on say what a loser 10 nine point five is massive for russian spread i mean it is serious yes he's got we have a one point again and i don't know the super bowl against the chiefs and spags i mean this is a layup for else brother were probably back in the lead at this point right hazel rock kareem hunts russian yards over under forty three and a half yeah i think i gotta go with the under on this one for Kareem Hunt. Like I just I think it's a committee backfield personally and Kareem Hunt, something tells me that they're gonna end up leaning on Pacheco.
Starting point is 00:17:13 That's like I think Pacheco ended up in more carries. He had a great Super Bowl in the past. Like I really believe that to be the case and and 43 and a half it's not a crazy total but you know I just don't see him getting that many carries Yeah, it feels like a red zone thing to are you gonna rack up that many yards at that position? You know if he get the ball if they're on the one or the two again in terms of yardage We'll take the under Kareem hunt 43 and a half. So we're sweating a couple unders here You guys are on Travis Kelsey receiving props receiving yards receiving yards 60.5 over under for Kelsey Receiving props, receiving yards, receiving yards, 60.5
Starting point is 00:17:45 over under for Kelsey. Bartzi, like I said, we've already got Mahomes number over. He's his main guy, it's a Super Bowl. Also Vic Van Jo's zone coverage guy. Travis Kelsey's zone coverage route runner. If this thing, if he's got 25, 30, and the Eagles are up 10, it's a four quarter. You know it's going down in this minute drive he's hitting this number were
Starting point is 00:18:08 over once again okay news going over the number lotto overs for these guys without a lot of ice in the last six games that's right and i don't know if they can't vicki fangio love that who produced he is gonna shot him i love the gene in this game right over her hazen bro ron Cooper Dijon is gonna shut him. I love Dijon in this game. All right, Hazenbro, we're on AJ Brown's receiving yard 69.5. I think this is going over. We gotta take over. We got Hertz over 2-11. We have to. It's the combo play. It's the combo play. We're gonna see at least one big play down the field from these guys. You know, I think Kellehmore is gonna pick his spot. He'll get a one-on-one and then he'll have to rely on AJ Brown to make that
Starting point is 00:18:46 play that's what the Philadelphia Eagles will have to do to beat my homes we're gonna have to make two or three big plays and one of them is gonna end up in AJ Brown's hands totally agree totally agree OJ AJ Brown over the number okay coin toss you guys are up first heads or tails for a point? Arch, do you have a point, Toss? For a point, a big point. Heads or tails? We're gonna go heads. Tails never fails, guys. We're on tails.
Starting point is 00:19:24 You guys get ahead this guy dogs us for Travis Kelsey he's only gone over the two last six games and AJ Brown 70 yards he's gone over three in his last seven like what what world you know this stuff else super bowls different right house brother it's that's called ask clown comments there's a section of sports radio that has asked clown comments that that's what those were alright you guys are on heads were on tails for a point we love that work we're down to before kickoff else brother
Starting point is 00:19:54 okay gatorade color i got a lot of i got a lot of it is a result of the area i love how i know how to know how to know about your machine it but what I love She did what what what you so you guys get to pick the opposite of what we know we were on tails anyway We love taking tails. We love tails. We switch to tails. No, you don't you picked heads already. It's locked in doogie That's gonna rule it on that Luke the pick is locked in. Thank you. Doogie doogie is a commissioner of integrity We're all three. I would have let you pick first and is what for the happen to go this way you can pick our color for gatorade if you want you pick no i got a little more going color first you can ride our wave if you want
Starting point is 00:20:34 house brother go ahead the color that will be selecting is blue and i'll tell you why okay i will tell you why by the way it's locked in your a moron the last two colors for the cheese was purple you're so dumb now they believe the cheese is gonna win clear this purple doesn't count purple doesn't count what do you want we're taking blue that's it you're locked in with blue we love blue go ahead pick what color you want our seat for a point see we're going orange every team has an orange Gatorade jug
Starting point is 00:21:05 It's a staple in the FL totally agree parts totally agree I had Intel that told me blues the play There's a very good chance the whole playoff is gonna come down to the color of the Gatorade if we're tied going in the Gatorade gonna come down to the color of the Gatorade. If we're tied going into Gatorade, do you know how crazy it's gonna be if blue comes flying over the top? Blue Gato on big red. I can't wait to see it. The picks are in, ladies and gentlemen. There it is up on TSN2. It is gonna be a thing of beauty at the Super Bowl. So to quickly recap, Hazenboro, we're on the under 48 and a half. We're on the over for Hertz passing yards under for Kareem Hunt rushing yards over the number AJ Brown receiving yards.
Starting point is 00:21:49 We like the tails for the coin toss and we're on blue for the Gatorade color. Owen Wilson, they are taking Philadelphia plus one and a half over Mahomes passing over Barkley rushing over Kelsey receiving heads for the coin toss orange for the Gatorade color picks are locked in this is gonna be a thing of beauty on Sunday good luck good luck everyone involved yeah Luke enjoy yourself down there try to have a good time in New Orleans be safe do your best be safe do your best all right see you buddy there's a Luke Wilson joining us

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