OverDrive - Wingo on Scheffler's dominance, the FedEx Cup playoffs format and the Cowboys' season trajectory

Episode Date: August 17, 2026

The Wingo Network CEO Trey Wingo joined OverDrive to discuss Von Miller's signing with the Cowboys, Dallas' offensive strength, Jeremiyah Love's injury concerns with the Cardinals, Scottie Scheffler kicking the FedEx Cup playoffs with a win, the format of the playoffs and more.

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Bell, connection is everything. Let's welcome in a man who covers the National Football League as well as anyone. He is Trey Wingo, the Wingo Network CEO inside football show, which we encourage you to check it out. What's up, Trey? Hey, guys, how are you? Doing very well, thank you. What was your take when you saw that Vaughn Miller sign with the Cowboys? How significant is this for Dallas's defense in your estimation?

Well, it's depth. I mean, I think that if we're just being honest about it, he's another depth piece. For a Cowboys defense, that was arguably the worst defense in the history of the Dallas Cowboys franchise last season. I mean, you can't sugarcoat it. That's how bad they were. They were awful.

They gave up more points than better than before. They gave up more yards. They couldn't stop the run. They couldn't rush the passer. Now, it is a completely different defense this year. You have the Quinn and Williams pick up last season at the trade deadline. They signed him to a deal. He's settling in nicely.

They also have Kenny Clark which they got from the Michael Parsons deal they got Roshan Gary this off season

they have had real success in picking up linebackers and now they have a rotation of pass rushers yeah

Vaughn had nine sacks last year again the quietest nine sacks you'll ever see because as you guys said the commanders

weren't what the commanders were in 2024 but you know depth is where you really really can separate yourself

as a pass rush unit. And they got guys they can rotate in. And, you know, they get the Caleb Downs of safety in the first run of the draft, which a lot of people were stunned that he was there for him. If this Dallas defense guys is just middle of the road, they have an excellent football team. I mean, their offense is off the charts. It was great last year. They just couldn't stop anybody. So if you can say, okay, with the addition of Von Miller and Caleb Downs and Christian Parker, the D.C. that comes over from Philadelphia and all these other pieces, can we be average defensively, and they can create a lot of problems for a lot of teams.

Trey, whether people are Cowboys fans or not, I feel like you're going to get stuck watching a lot of Dallas Cowboys on those primetime games this year. And they're a fun team. You're going to get some 34 to 31 football games along the way. I'm curious your thoughts on that offense this year, whether George Pickens can recreate what he did last year in that great season alongside CD Lamb. And if you think this offense with Dak Prescott, even as another gear, if their defense, maybe, tease them up once or twice? Yeah, let's start with the first part of that, which is you're going to see the Cowboys. You'll always going to see Cowboys, even when they're bad. Okay, like, for example, the Thanksgiving Day game last year between the Chiefs and the Cowboys,

two teams that did not make the playoffs was the most watched regular season game in NFL history. 54 million people watched that game. And the most watched regular season game before that was a game two years ago on Thanksgiving between the Cowboys and the Giants. people always say oh I'm so sick of watching the Cowboys you're liars because you keep tuning in and people say well they put them on these national holidays

okay but that doesn't mean you have to watch you hate them then why do they keep getting the highest numbers for all these time slots so yeah you're going to see the Cowboys until it's proven that people don't watch as for how good this offense can be you know it's interesting right because Pickens

really took off when CD got hurt so there wasn't a ton of time last year that these two guys were on the field at the same time. And there's two ways to look at that, right? You can say, well, you know, CED is number one. Pickens proved he can be a number one. Imagine what two number ones can do together. And that's a really optimistic way of looking at it. And maybe it's the most logical way. But I got to say there's a part of me. I'm curious to see how these two coexist. And they've gotten together off the field and done a bunch

stuff together. They've created some really bizarre golf content. If you want to go look at it on their YouTube pages, it's kind of wild. But, okay, if one's getting fed more than the other, how's that going to go? Right? Because

you always, it's like the best way to describe it, I don't know if I want two number ones. I'd rather have a one and someone who knows he's a 1A. Right? And that's the only problem I see with this offense. The tight end is good. the line is young.

They're really solid. And I think they got a decent running game with the backs they have. My only concern for the cowboy offense is obviously everybody's staying healthy. But, okay, what happens if suddenly C.D. is getting 70-30 or Pickens is getting 60-40. I'm curious to see how that dynamic plays out. But that's the only flaw I can see in the offense. Trey, I think we can all agree that professional sports has gotten increasingly soft over the years. load management in basketball.

Goalies don't play back-to-back games in the NHL. And now in the NFL, Jeremiah Love, the horror has 14 touches in a preseason game. And yes, he gets hurt. And all of a sudden, people are yelling and streaming at the Arizona Cardinals for mismanaging the third overall pick and putting him at risk. How do you see what Arizona did playing Love? Who, again, they signed Alger in the offseason, did the Cardinals. They have James Connor. I mean, there's some competent running backs.

It's not like he's being hand of the job in spite of where he was selected in the draft, and people are freaking out. How do you see what Arizona did giving him those touches in that first preseason game? Yes, how dare they try and see what they have on their third overall pick? I know. What a disastrous organization. How incredibly stupid. People will freak out about anything, okay?

I always say Twitter. It's never X to me. It's Twitter is the place where we go so mad about something today. We forgot about what made us so mad yesterday on Twitter. And this is one of those things. First of all, he's a running back. We all know the position most likely to get injured in the NFL is running back. Secondly, he had 14 touches.

It's not like he had 30. Like, he's the only way to prepare to play football is to play football. And there's an inherent risk every time you play football. Somebody's going to get hurt. It's a 100% injury rate sport. nobody goes through it without getting injured. So would you rather him get injured in August, in the first preseason game, or in October? Pick.

I think most people would say, get it out of the way now, and hopefully he'll be fine and ready to go on the regular season. Trey, the preseason and a lot of these injuries have led us back to that old turf versus grass debate, which you boys batted around recently on inside football. I was fascinated to hear Erlocker and Carter, those guys commenting on how. how it felt on their bodies. And I don't think I even appreciated how big of a deal this is for some players. When you hear from players, how much does this matter to guys? Like, how pissed off are some players when they are stuck playing on this hard turf

compared to grass and the impact it's having on their bodies now? Because it feels like it's getting to be a bigger conversation. Well, yeah, absolutely. I think one of the things that made it a bigger conversation is what happened in your great country and our country this summer, the World Cup. all these places. By the way, I love how penny-pinching FIFA is. You can't call it MetLife Stadium because you're not paying it,

so it's New York, New Jersey Stadium. You can't call it G-E-H-A Field or G-H-A Field at Arrowhead because you're not paying it, so it's Kansas Stadium. It's Philadelphia Stadium, not Lincoln Financial Field. But the point being, they were all played on grass. So I don't want to hear even Atlanta, and the Mercedes-Benz Superdome, which was Atlanta Stadium. You know, you can't sit there and say, well, we can't do it where we just saw people do it.

And I think that's part of it that is making this conversation more interesting. Everybody, every player you talk to. Well, okay, maybe there's 2% because they think they're faster on turf. Everybody would say, I prefer to play on grass. And clearly, it's doable because we just saw it happen in the World Cup. So, yeah, I think it's going to be more and more of a conversation. And it's going to be interesting because that's something that the NFLPA could win on. Because, you know, the CBA is not up until 2030 or 2031.

And basically the NFL has already said, guys, we're playing 18. Just prepare for it. I mean, Roger's been talking about this for three years, and the CBA isn't up until after, I think, March of 2031. So he's telling you, we're getting this. So you guys decide what you want to get in return. And maybe it's the elimination to turf. and maybe they're playing on grass is something that everybody can claim as a win for the NFLPA.

Trey Wingo with us inside football show, we encourage you to check it out. Trey, you're also a passionate golf broadcaster as well. You love the sport, and I just need to be transparent. I absolutely despise the FedEx Cup playoffs. The format is so brutal to watch, and I'm so looking forward to whatever comes next once they decide to bring in something else in 2028 with a two-track system, whatever. But I'm sitting there watching Sunday, Sheffler, I mean, it was a complete walk in the park for him, and there wasn't much compelling

stuff aside from, oh, will Keith Mitchell get in or Jordan Speeith in the 50th spot? I mean, I thought it was just complete nonsense. How do you envision the PGA tour concluding its season in the future when they come up with a new format? Yeah, it's going to be different, and we don't know if FedEx is going to be a part of that. There are real concerns that FedEx may drop their sponsorship, and that's a huge thing for the PGA tour to contend with. You know, they've tried a million different things, right?

They've tried, you know, making the hundreds, and then to this and that, and then they go to the Tour Championship and they stack the deck. You already started five under, which was the dumbest thing I've ever could possibly imagine. So they're trying to do this the right way, and they're trying to, at least they've tried a million different things, but I agree with you. And the other part that drives me crazy is I will die on this hill that the PGA Championship, there should be a major played in August. Absolutely.

When the Open is over in mid-July and we have to wait a full pregnancy, nine months until we get a major again, it's too long. I'm sorry, and it's just too long. And so one of the reasons is, wow, it's so hot in the summer to play golf. Then why are we playing the three FedEx playoff events

in the Holy Trinity of Humidity and Swampass in Memphis, St. Louis, and Atlanta, Georgia? Like, you couldn't pick three, worst places in terms of weather in August to play these things. So I don't want to hear that from you. That's a loser argument. They've got to figure out something. I tried to get them to change it, but I don't know when that's going to happen. But I do think there will be significant changes for the playoff. And it's got to be something more like a playoff, like a real playoff. The regular season means something and it gives you some sort of seating. I understand that.

But then it's got to be something a little more different. Yeah. I mean, McElroy finishes 66, then he's still, he's moving on. I mean, I don't think that's how it works in a real sports playoffs, right? So it just, I can't stand it. I mean, if you perform the way the Rory... The Rory thing is interesting, right? Because he's basically, he's not getting to his 15, which is the minimum you're supposed to be able to play

to keep your tour status. And basically the tour has said, don't worry about it. You know, because he's got most favored nation status. But the thing about Rory, he's like, oh, my game's nowhere where it needs to be. That's because you weren't trying. I mean, like, if you think about it, Rory's prep for the Masters. He flew there and played that course as much as he could

because he had one goal. He wanted to try and repeat as Master's Champion, and he pulled it off. He's like, oh, my game's terrible. You can't play anywhere. And you've already said, you know, I'm not as interested, and that's fine. I get that.

Nick Faldo was the same way at the end of his career. He's like, you know, it's a place like Riviera or outside of the Masters. There's places with the old school golf courses that I still get up for and interested for. But it's funny because they might. The game's nowhere near where it needs to be. That's because you're not practicing or playing.

It's pretty simple. All of us know that. Trying to just get it done as the playoffs continue. And he will be in the field for next week. Maybe he could figure it out because certainly in the first week of the playoffs, he had nothing figured out. Trey, awesome stuff, as always. We really appreciate you taking the time today, and hopefully we can chat again soon.

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