P1 with Matt and Tommy - Austrian GP Driver Ratings: F1-to-10

Episode Date: July 2, 2024

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Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt Somi. It's Austrian Grand Prix driver ratings. That's right. A completely in utterly non-controversial, non-entertaining race. No confusing sprint weekends to go through. Just straight down the line tends for everyone today, right Tommy? Absolutely. It's not made it difficult at all, but it has made there.

Plenty to talk about, especially. in our US tour as well. Ooh, segue. Oh, what a segue. Our US live P1 show is now officially up and running. You can buy tickets, okay? You can go to, right, where's the thing? Here we go.

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which is the Sunday of the race in Austin. We're going to be in Austin at Emo's. So, tickets are live. We'd love to see you. They've actually sold incredibly quickly. I know. That's crazy. We went live with it not that long ago.

So if you want to come see me and Tommy, chat some waffle in real life, we'd love to see you. Right, let's get into driver ratings then, shall we? And begin with Kevin Magnus. Sprint qualified 11th, finished the sprint in 9th, and then qualified 12th, and finished 8th. I'm going to give Kevin Magnerson a whopping 9 out of 10.

He's had a great weekend. Of course, we're taking into account a sprinkling of sprint, and then the main race, of course. In the sprint, he was best of the rest by a mile. Blote was just chilling, loving life. And then in the main race as well, finishes 8th. Yes, he didn't beat Nika Holkenberg. but I'm very impressed, maybe not so much with not wanting to work as a team, and that could have ended up similar to Vastappan and a Norris or Ocon and Gassley in some senses,

but it didn't. And KMAG drove a very solid weekend. And then I'm just questioning, you know, what more could he have really done? Maybe beat his teammate, but apart from that, well done KMAG. Yeah, I've also gone for a nine out of ten for Kevin Magnuson. Normally, start of the year, this was the driver that was getting a lot of bad grades at the start of the year to start this drive ratings, but he's been very good recently,

and this was arguably his best weekend so far of the season. Very, very quick. It's a shame he didn't quite put it together in qualifying for the main race, because that's the one where points can be scored. It's always disappointing that, you know, you can have an absolutely brilliant sprint. I go back to the show maybe last sprint

where you do an absolutely brilliant sprint, But you have nothing to show for it because barely any points get handed out. So that's what happened to Magnuson, but delivered in the main race as well. So solid job, to say the least. Well, I'm K-Magg, and the fans gave him an eight. Nico Holcomberg qualified for the sprint in 17th, finished 19th. It's got a 10-second penalty as well, forcing another drive off the track, and then qualified for the main race in 9th and finished 6th.

I have gone for a 10 out of 10 for Nico Hockenberg And of course you'll look at that and go Well you've got to take account into the sprint And you have but his race was so good That it doesn't really matter about the sprint Because like we just said it's so hard to score points anyway That the midfield are never going to score points So it's the main race where you have to deliver

And the guy beat a red bull Unbelievable Had a hole in his side pod Tommy Well we'll get into that later We're not talking about Perez now. Half of his car was missing. So I just wanted to get that there. Just put that into the atmosphere before I just see some comments already because that was

half bait. So there you go. Yeah. It's a brilliant, brilliant drive. Absolutely fantastic. It is a 10 out of 10 performance. And just a drive that shows that someone like Audi have made the absolute right decision still put faith in someone like Niko Holcombberg because he can still deliver. I have also gone for a 10 out of 10 for Nico Holkenberg.

Yes, the sprint wasn't ideal, but he's absolutely made up for it in the main race. Just, yeah, brilliant from both drivers. It's not like he completely and utterly outshone Magnuson. Magnuson wasn't too far behind, but Nico beating Perez. Yeah, it doesn't matter necessarily about other exterior factors. He fought tooth and nail on that last lap to make sure that he finished ahead of him. And it's a 10. So well done, Nico.

And the fans also gave him a 10 out of 10. Wow. Fans, no wheel. Love that. Jeuxneux, sprint qualified 20th, finished the sprint in 20th, qualified 20th and finished 17th. Oh, dear. God, I said a lot of 20th.

And now I'm like, is a 4 out of 10 fair? I'm going to go for a 4 out of 10, mainly because his teammate didn't do too much better. So I think it was just another weekend. of fluorescent green wheelie bins for salba which is such a shame considering in spain they actually looked much better and they sort of reverted back to not being very good again so i'm sure someone will comment saying on lap 47 joe well of course he did have that contact with alonzo which i've taken into account that's why i haven't given him a three or a two

and he claimed that he got some damage from there although i don't know i didn't actually see whether or not he did, it was more sort of wheel to wheel sort of battering. But he was hit pretty hard, so I'll take that perhaps he was suffering a little bit there. But it's still not a great performance. I mean, he's qualifying last for both sessions. Like, he's not exactly setting himself up for success, is he? No, he's not. I've also gone for a four out of ten.

It was kind of a very just unfortunate Joe Guan Yu's kind of normal race. a brilliant one in Spain where it looked like, oh, this is the kind of level he needs to be delivering now. And he's back to being last. Now, he wasn't last by a country mile like sometimes we've seen before

in the sessions and things. But yeah, it's just not good. But the reason it's a four is exactly like you say that it looked like steak word, just pretty woeful anyway. They certainly were, and the fans also gave Joe a four. We now go to Valdry Bottas,

Spring qualified 18th, finished the sprint in 18th, qualified 18th and finished 16th. It's a 5 out of 10. Another classic salber, straight down the middle, not done anything, not bad, not good. I'd say they're quite bad. They are bad. I don't think Botas has been bad, but it's hard to...

I don't know about you, but it feels like Alpha Romeo, when they were when they were alpha-o-o and they've been like this for years of just they're never they're never there they don't even seem to go up and down they're just like they're just existing like you never have these like crazy races where they do something we had one year maybe at the start where Botas was doing something quite good at the start of the new regs but yeah they're just so anonymous it's quite embarrassing really it's almost like they've given up and they're like okay Aldi you can take over the reins now enjoy yeah yeah maybe

Maybe they are literally just waiting for that to happen. Strange that they're still here, though. Maybe they didn't have a buyer until 2026, and that's why they're still just kind of chilling and trying to maintain some kind of market value, and then off they go. The fans gave Bottas a five as well. Yuki Sonoda, sprint qualified 14th,

finished a sprint in 13th, qualified for the main race in 14th, and finished 14th. So five out of 10 for Yuki Sonoda. I don't think the R.B was necessarily brilliant. They've fallen off a cliff a little bit in these last few races. So I'm just because his teammate did quite well, I'm not going to completely and utterly slander Yuki,

but it's just not a great weekend for him. He didn't do a particularly crazy strategy or anything like that. Just, yeah, he even said after the race that the pace was off and that they'll have to find out why. So that's why I'm going straight down the middle for a five. yeah five out of ten for me as well snap it is another yeah so far at least

let's see if we can get a clean sweep come on let's go yeah well I don't think we are there's some juicy ones to go later so yes it was a bit like Bottas really in terms of like a performance he's kind of

not completely over delivered with his car not completely under delivered with his car it's just a bit of a media a race for Yuki when his teammate has actually done a very good job. So I think we'll get into this. I think it's more on his teammates doing a good job than Yuki doing a bad job. The fans gave Yuki a five as well. Now it's Daniel Ricardo.

Sprint qualified 16th, started the sprint in 14th, main qualifying 11th and finished 9th. I've gone for an 8 out of 10 for Daniel Riccardo. a much better drive from him. Frank also agrees. Yeah. Right. Frank, what are you barking at, Frank?

What's going on? No. No. Yeah, Dona Ricardo. What are you going to do about that dog though, Frank? Like, what are you going to do? Do you bark and then you're like, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry? Oh, that is him in a nutshell, yeah.

Yeah, Daniel Ricardo, brilliant drive for a P9. And yeah, much more what he needs to do. You said this in the race podcast actually that went really under the radar. Wonder why, what happened in that race to distract us all? I don't know. But yeah, it did go completely under the radar,

but good drive. Very good drive. A very good drive indeed. Daniel Ricardo, as Frank goes into another barking fit. Oh, it's between two for me. I'm just like, he scored points in an RB that's looked horrendous.

Am I being a little bit too generous? No, we'll go with an eight. We'll go with an eight for Daniel Ricardo. I was deliberating that or a nine. But no, yeah, very good performance, scoring a couple of points. As you say, I think was the most under the radar point scorer of the lot, I think. And I think he definitely needed this as well. It was a bit of a settler for Daniel.

So, yeah, eight out of ten from me. And the fans also gave Daniel an eight. Logan Sargent. Sprint qualified 15th. finished a sprint in 16th, qualified the main race in 19th and finished 19th. Oh dear. The weekend started great for old Logie Bear, and then he finished about 25 seconds off the back of anyone,

which deserves a two out of ten. It's a two out of ten for Logan, a really poor race. I know he got caught up in a bit of contact, I think, with Stroll at turn three, but my God, he still pitted. I know that his strategy wouldn't have been great because of the fact he had to pit early, but still, nowhere, absolutely nowhere for pace where Albon was getting in the mix a bit, you know what I mean,

showing that there is some kind of pace in that Williams, but Logan, once again, a very anonymous, at the back, nowhere near anyone else kind of race, so I can't give them any more than a two. Yeah, I've gone for a three out of ten for Logan. It's a shame because, like you say, it started off so well. Out qualifying Albon going, yes, finally, although he's done it in the sprint again. But then even in the sprint, he was so slow that Albin caught him right at the end.

And I think, yeah, Albin started from the pit lane in the sprint and still almost passed Logan. And then in the race, he is just so, so slow, like so slow. Logan finished over a minute behind his own teammate. So he would have very nearly been lapped by his own team. And did Albin not get, yeah, penalty. Yeah, he did. So yeah. Wow.

Without that penalty, that could have been a lapping. That would have been as bad, isn't it? Quite, it's quite terrible. The fans also gave Logan a two out of ten. Alex Albonne, sprinted 19th, but obviously started from the pit lane, finished the sprint and 17th. And then qualified 16th and finished 15th. I've gone for a five out of ten for Alex Albin.

Not his best weekend to say the least. Got a penalty. Look like he could have maybe got a good result at one point, but I don't think points were ever on for Williams. So five out of ten for Albin. Yeah, I've gone for a five as well, straight down the middle. Of course, he got a five second penalty for crossing the pit entry. He thought that maybe P12 or P13 was possible.

Still not the points, but of course, ending up 40. I think it was, it's not, or sorry, 15th even. He crossed the line in 14th. Oh, was he holding that penalty and therefore, yeah, okay, so he had that penalty and then hadn't served it and then, yeah, dropped behind Sonoda. So yeah, it's a 5 out of 10 and the fans also gave Alex a 5. Espan Ocon, sprint qualified 8th, finished a sprint in 11th, qualified for the main race in 10th and finished 12th.

I've gone for a 6 out of 10 for Ocon. Alpine are not bad now, clearly. Both himself and Gassley are now getting in the mix and getting into Q3. So points are absolutely on the cards. And Ocon didn't manage to score in either of them, despite, of course, starting the sprint in a points paying position. And then also in the main race as well. So what could have been, of course, he was fighting Gassley very hard.

That could have ended in tears. Thankfully, it didn't. But Gassley with that chow, maybe that was the mental cut for Ockon. I couldn't really then push after that because that was one of the coldest team radios. and most savage from Gassley but of course he would never have heard that I'm only kidding but still six out of ten I think warrants Ocon's performance

this weekend yeah I've gone for a six as well I was oming an hour in between a six and a seven but I think the fact that they haven't scored points when they could have easily and you look at people that have scored points like Hasses and Daniel Ricardo shows it was absolutely there for Alpine

Ocon qualified very well in both both races it has to be said so points were definitely on the cards but for many reasons didn't happen in the race and I think it was also extremely lucky not to get a penalty for that little chop on

Alonzo. It was very very aggressive and just another one of those things that means that driving standards are terrible in Formula One but maybe that's for another the podcast. Because so many people do it, it's not even just Ocon, and they don't clamp down on it.

And then we get racing like we saw. Oh, sorry's about to pop off in another podcast. Okay, and the fans also gave O'Con a six. Pierre Gasly, sprint qualified ninth, finished the sprint in 12th, qualified for the main race in 13th, and finished 10th. I've gone for an eight out of 10 for Pierre Gasly. Of course, great job to get points.

but then everything I just said before with Alpine that points were there and it's not a nine or a 10 even though he scored points because he has finished behind you know Hasse's and an RB and I think on another day with a

better performance and a better drive he might have beaten them so still a good performance and Alpine are really going to start reeling in a lot of points now I think and pulling away from others. I've gone for a seven out of ten for Pierre Gazley, just purely because I can't give two point difference

between himself and Ocon, I think it was about seven second difference in the end. I don't think it was a absolutely outrageous drive from Gasly to warrant an eight. But still it was a decent enough, scored a point, but I think it was, yeah, what could have been really because Alpine, as I say, are looking quite good and him scoring a point about five or six races ago

would have probably been a 10 out of 10. but the Alpine has caught up and yeah, they definitely lost a little bit of time when the two teammates decided not to work together. But alas, we move on. Seven out of ten for Gasly and the fans gave him an eight. Lance Stroll, sprint qualified 12th, finished a sprint in 10th,

qualified for the main race in 17th and finished 13th. It's five out of ten for Lance Stroll. Aston Martin are depressing to watch, as we know. I don't think we saw him all that much either for Stroll. I think he had contact, didn't he? As I mentioned earlier with Logan, and I don't think he had damage or anything. It's just that's what the pace is of the Asthmartan. He beats Alonzo. And you'd think, wow, five out of 10, but I think that's more telling of Alonzo's race, if anything. So yes, straight down the middle. Yeah, Lance is another five out of 10.

It's another driver that has basically, I say, delivered. It didn't do great. in qualifying in the main race, but Aston have dropped off terribly, and we can see that now with how Alonzo's performing as well. So not the best weekend for Stroll, but certainly not as bad. Well, as his teammate, unfortunately,

pain. Well, let's get on to his teammate. Fernando Alonzo, sprint qualified 13th, finished a sprint in 15th, qualified for the main race in 15th, and finished 18th. I've gone for a three out of 10 for Fernando Alonze. Take that fanboy cape off and really start slapping him about now. Come on. He's obviously beaten stroll in qualifying, but he's done that many times. That's like probably the only positive fanboy thing I can say in this whole weekend.

Because even if he's not, I don't think Aston Martin are able to deliver points now. Or maybe they could, like just in like a P10 or something. that they've clearly fallen off massively. But for Alonzo to, you know, go steaming into an incident and crush into someone as well, his form has really taken a nosedive recently and it's painful to see, really. It certainly is. I've also gone for a three out of ten. I'm glad you did because I thought I might have to explain myself and I thought a four

was coming out, but just a really disappointing weekend, hitting Joe, getting a 10 second penalty for that. and that's even if he drives the race of his life, that is a points ending chance for Alonzo after that, but there was no speed. Took fastest lap. I'm not giving him any extra points because I didn't get a point for the biggest good surprise for it.

So obviously I'm not going to then try and fight that corner as well. So Alonzo three out of ten, and the fans gave him a four. Oscar Piastri, sprint qualified third, finished a sprint in second, qualified seventh and finished second. It's a nine out of ten for Oscar Piastri from me. I'm not even going to judge him too harshly on the qualifying mistake,

just purely because I think it's a load of BS, and just a bit rather unfair, I would say. I know it's in the rules and we'll get into that and all that sort of stuff, and blah, blah, blah, blah. But still, I do feel for him because of the nature of where he lost his life. lap is I just, yeah, I'm not happy with that. And he wasn't either. But overall, a great weekend for Piastri.

He fought back through because, of course, that put him on the back foot, starting seventh, but kept his nose sort of clean, even though he ruined Charlotte Clare's race. Actually, no, three out of ten for Oscar Piastri. But of course, three into one doesn't go, but he got away with not getting any damage and then being pushed off the track slightly by Perez. So overall, I think Piastri did a very good weekend. I've also gone for a nine out of ten for Asco Piestri. I was humming an hour in between an eight and a nine,

but I think it's borderline. But yeah, I do agree that the mistake, if you can call it that, it's not really a mistake. It's more misfortune to be a millimeter off the track. And I've already made my thoughts clear. on what I think to track limits at Austria. But yeah, the brilliant sprint, of course, he, I think unfairly got some weird criticism

for daring to overtake Lando and do a brilliant job when we're all slandering Paris for being nowhere near his teammate. You know, brilliant from Piastri. And then, yes, of course, he inherited the podium in the end, but he was still having a very good race. and boy McLaren with their pace and now Oscar's really like building some momentum

they can score some big old constructors points and I really do think that could be on if they maximise what they've got. Absolutely. The fans gave Oscar a nine as well. Lando Norris. Here we go. Here we go.

Finished the sprint in third. Qualified second. and did not finish. I have gone for a seven out of ten for Lando Norris. And I will explain my reasoning. That is because we'll start with the sprint and he should have won that sprint, definitely. Left the door open for Max Verstappen.

It's a bit harsh. He didn't really have the pace, but he should have led, I would say. Max drove away. He had DRS on Max Verstappen after overtaking him and finished the race third. I think that's called

not maximising your result and then while I still am of the view that Max Verstappen is majority and heavy majority to blame for the incident. I think Lando made such hard work of passing Max

that I think is the reason that I'm downgrading him to a seven because he should he could and in my opinion should have come away with two at least like well not at least but like two p1s basically and I really think like that was there for the taking for him and yes Max has done some very very questionable moves but I just can't I can't believe he's just not got past him and I think there was stuff from his side as well that some of the moves were maybe, and I think it was Max getting in his head, some of the moves were quite insane and he was leaving too much space. I think Anthony Davidson, you know, summarised it extremely well. That's going to say, I feel like I'm listening to Andy Davidson on the skypad right now. But it's so true, like he should have, I think he should

have definitely passed Max. Like, it's not impossible to pass Max Westapen. I know Max Verstappen drove very questionably, but we've seen Charles Leclair do it, we've seen other drivers do it. You can get passed him. So that's why Lando is getting a seven from me. Okay. My grade for Lando Norris is an eight out of ten. I think that I am of, I'm of a similar opinion that his overtakes were borderline wild, some of them. Like he sent it. I did enjoy that Max Verstappen in the car at one point said, you know, dive bombs aren't the way to overtake or something. I was like, ultimate irony. Sorry?

You are the king of dive bombs. Shall we go back to 2021? But no, but focusing more on Lando's race, yes. I think that he obviously felt that there was a time window to this. He had an opportunity and he wanted to take it. And from an entertainment perspective, absolutely amazing. Like, everyone was on the edge of their seats. We were all screaming.

It was brilliant to watch. But Lando did make mistakes under breaking, trying to overtake Max. Yes, as you say, sort of Max got in his head a little bit, was skirting around the rules again and moving late and all this sort of stuff. But Lando wasn't perfect in that battle either.

He was trying different things. And when we're looking at the incident as a whole, like that that particular incident that ended both of their chances of winning, that was primarily almost completely Max Vastappan's fault. But as a battle, Lando could have easily avoided that by just getting past. So that's why I've downgraded him a point or two.

I still think he drove incredibly well. I still think the pace was great. But he's still got a few things to hone, I think, in these sort of wheel-to-wheel battles. We've seen mistakes from him creep in, not just in this weekend, but across this season. And, yeah, it's not a perfect drive by any stretch. and I think that he will look back at that. Like he's very self-critical and he will think I could have

and should have won that race. So yeah, disappointing. And I'm now thinking I should have given him a seven. But I'm going to go with an eight because I still think that in terms of he put himself in that position, he was fighting for the win and had it not been for the incident

that wasn't his fault in my eyes, he still probably would have won that race. And as Anthony Davidson said, that was probably the moment. move that would have got him the victory had they come out of that corner unscathed because he would have got a great run but alas shoulda woulda coulda mum wheels bike so yeah eight out of ten for me and the fans gave him a nine out of ten moving on to carlos signs sprint qualified fifth finished a sprint in fifth qualified fourth finished third it's an

eight out of ten for carlos signs from me a very good weekend uh where's team where's team mate was having all kinds of issues, some out of his own control. But Carlos had a solid weekend. He was right in the mix. It was only, what, five seconds or so from inheriting a win. So he was in that mix with the Mercedes and there's obviously Piastri as well. So I can't really fault him too much. Just a clean weekend and another good one from him and another podium, which is what he's after because he very sadly said in the press conference that he's not going to be fighting for podiums in the next few years. Oh, that'll say sad. I've gone for a. nine out of ten for Carlos.

I think it was a very good drive. Maximised the result, I think, all weekend from a Ferrari that sadly isn't there and doesn't have the pace that we thought they might. They were very clearly second best, but this is what Ferrari can do now. And I think Carlos absolutely maximised the result. You know, qualifying fourth, for example,

in the main race was a brilliant achievement. And of course, you know, he's inherited through contact, but you've got to be there to do it. So very good drive from Carlos. And the fans gave Carlos an eight. Charles Leclair. I have gone. No, I've not read it out yet.

Hold on. Sprint qualified 10th, finished the sprint in seventh. Qualified sixth, finished 11th. For audio listeners, the muffled voice was through the Charlotte Claire mask. Yeah. I have gone it's really difficult this one I've gone for a five

he's incredibly difficult because he's had so many problems and so many of them are like for different reasons

you know it's not like oh he's had an absolute shocker of a weekend where he's been terrible of course he made the mistake in qualifying but then the car issue wasn't his fault

to put him down in the sprint contact at the start, the reason it is as low as a five is because you put yourself in that position when you have a lower qualifying, you're always going to be in that mix. And it was unfortunate, you know,

that can happen in Austria. Unfortunately, Oscar Piaastri dared to stay on the track this time and that kind of cost shall because if Oscar had just run wide, which I'm not saying he should have because after everything that happened to him in qualifying, you probably thought,

no, I will stay on the track. And Charles, just being, Charles, got some bad luck. So, yeah, it was a weird race of just lots of things going wrong. Sometimes Charles' fault, sometimes bad luck. I have also gone for a five out of ten for Charlotte Clare, which might surprise people because a lot of people actually took my tweet that I replied to the P1 with Matt and Tommy Twitter account

when we were asking for questions of me saying, should Charlotte Clare have gotten driver of the day from P20 to P11, as serious when obviously that was a joke. But no, it was a weekend to forget for Shal just problems galore. He's in that qualifying sixth. He's in the pack going into term one. It's something that can happen. If he qualifies third, it's probably not happening.

So, yeah, just not a great weekend. I think he mentioned that the two cars were very differently set up between himself and signs. While that is, that kind of screams to me that Farrow, I don't have a clue which direction to go with the car after their upgrades, which fills me with lots of confidence. But no excuses, I think Charles had a reasonably mediocre weekend if you take everything into account.

So that's why I've gone for a five. And the fans gave him a five as well. Can we have some luck after Monaco? That would be nice. George Russell, Sprint qualified fourth, started the sprint in fourth, qualified third, finished first. Hmm. Hmm.

Hmm. Oh, it's so hard because he's won the race and yet I want to give him a nine. Like, am I being unfair? Oh, my days. How can it, how can it be? Oh my God, it's a nine or a ten. I don't know. I can't.

Should we take first? No, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. It's going to be... It has to be a 10. George won the bloody race. It's a 10. Well done, George.

You got a 10. He was there. He did everything he needed to do in the mix. Qualified well. Yeah, it's got to be a 10. Well done, George. You got a 10. I mean, it was quite a quiet race up until that point.

But he had to beat everyone else around him that have similarly paced cars, you know, the Ferrari. and his own teammate, of course, he had a little bit of damage, and then Piastri coming through as well, I think for him to beat Oscar on track in the car that everyone will say is the vastest car. Yeah, it's going to be a 10.

Well done, George. I have also gone for a 10 out of 10 for George Russell. And I was similar to you where I thought, oh, is it a 9? And then when I looked into it, I think I'd have given him a 10 anyway, even if we hadn't have had the incident. because he has done such a good job all weekend.

You look at the results that he's done, qualified fourth in the sprint, finished fourth in the sprint, shouldn't really be qualified that Mercedes third, brilliant job again. And yeah, just an awesome weekend from George. And I think I've underrated George Russell, I think, and I think a lot of people have. He did have a terrible,

year last year it has to be said. But he is doing such a good job. I think we need to have the conversation of how good George Russell is doing at the moment. It's so impressive. He's made a few mistakes, Tommy. He's made like a few mistakes, and that makes him a terrible driver.

Sorry, I'm just doing the Twitter voice. Yeah, I know. And regardless of why and what you think is happening at Mercedes and our Hamilton's leaving anyway, it's no mean feat to do what he is doing to Lewis Hamilton regardless of what you think the reasonings are for it and yes he had a poor year last year but I think this year he is kind of reminding everyone

why he was that driver that we were all going oh god get Bottas out that car and put Russell in he's the next big thing he's so good I think he's doing that again it's it was a brilliant drive again and what time for him to do it as well yeah exactly As is Hamilton's leaving, Mercedes are like, oh, Antonelli, this, Vestap and that, and Russell's there going, I've won another race. Can anyone, can I get some props, please? I think we need to have a P-1 extra chat about it because he is, again, it's like that it is that

situation where he's doing an extremely good job and he's not maybe getting the respect that he deserves. And again, he's the one that's won a race. You know, that's two for Mercedes in this new era, and they've both been George. Speaking of respect He will not get in respect he deserves The fans gave him a 9 out of 10 Lewis Hamilton Sprint qualified 6th

Finished a sprint in 6th Qualified 5th and finished 4th I've gone For a 7 out of 10 For Lewis Hamilton He himself It was another race where he kind of came on The radio and stuff afterwards

And just said like I've been terrible It's not been my weekend And fourth is not a bad result when you think your teammates won the race. Made the mistake very un-Hamilton-like, you know, coming into the pits, even though it was the tiniest little thing. It's still a mistake, still costly. Everyone knows that you can't do that coming into the pits.

You need to be careful. Tommy, we said Oscar Picastri, and on his qualifying lap, that was a millimetre, and we all were like, oh, poor Oscar. And he got a penalty. Yeah, but so did Lewis Hamilton. Yeah. it was weird because he looked rapid at the start again of the race and he caught right up to George and it was going now here we go again

Russell great quality going back into the pack Hamilton's made up places but then just faded seemed like he had some damage from I think it was one of the Ferraris I think it was science wasn't it but it's just not a good weekend and he himself admitted it so yeah it's a shame to see because It's good for Formula One to see Hamilton back at the front, but it's not happening. It isn't happening for, as you say, whatever reason people believe. I've gone for a 7 out of 10 as well for Lewis.

Of course, it had that damage, which I haven't seen a replay of, of what he thinks he had some damage when signs and himself touched. And then also had a very slow pit stop as well. So it was 8.4 seconds. but either or still a weekend kind of to forget to not even be on the podium sadly for Hamilton when your teammates winning the race and the two leaders have come together

of course losing a bit of time with that damage but still it's just not really worked out this season for Hamilton so far and I'm praying to see him back at the front because it's where he belongs and we all want to see him battling with the big boys so seven out of ten from me

and the fans gave him a seven as well Sergio Perez Sprint qualified seventh finished a sprint in eighth qualified eighth finished seventh It's going to be a three out of ten for Sergio Perez this weekend

No lower than that Because he had a hole in this car Which I've been told several times So thank you everybody for getting involved And letting me know that he had a hole in his car Unlucky of course to pick up that damage But also don't push Piastri off the track and maybe you won't make contact.

Of course, it is lap one, heavy fuel, bit of understeer. So I'm going to give him the slight benefit of the doubt there. But either or, still a weekend to forget. It's not like he was at the front and then picked up damage and then was rubbish. He wasn't showing any pace at any point really during the weekend, finishing the sprint in eighth, languishing away from the Formula A lot. And then in the race, of course, being slightly stricken. But still, I can't give him any higher than a three,

because he was finishing about a minute, I think, behind Vastappen before everything kicked off. So another weekend, like Hamilton kind of, but in a lot worse, to forget. Yeah, I've gone for a three of Sergio Perez as well. You can say all you like about the hole in the side pod, but like you say, if he'd have qualified second and finished second in the sprint or won the sprint or maybe P3, you'd gone, oh, Perez actually had loads of pace this weekend. and it's not happened for him in the main race because of damage, but he showed no signs all weekend of that happening.

So it's just shockingly bad. Regardless of the damage, you shouldn't be racing a house. You should not. The fans also gave Perez a three. So we are in unison with that one. I wonder if we'll be in unison for the next one. Max for Stappen. Sprint qualified first.

Finish the sprint in first. Qualified first. Finished fifth. I have gone for seven out of ten for Max. It's the same as Lando. Won the sprint. Maybe arguably shouldn't have won the sprint. I'm still adamant Lando should have won that race.

Did what he needed to do. and then in the main race, he's cost himself a chance of victory or even a P2 and just doing, you know, still having a great lead in the championship and picking up points. But he hasn't because he's defended extremely aggressively. He's kind of put that theory to bed that he was, he's kind of calmed down and wouldn't be like this. anymore. I do agree with him to a point when he was kind of saying I'm here to race hard and win the race. I'm not going to just let someone go by. But for me, it was too extreme. He got the penalty for it. So that's fair enough. The actual move, I mean, I'm repeating myself from the podcast, the actual move where he got the puncture anyway,

I think is so marginal. Like, that could have happened another 10 times and they might have not got picked up a puncher again and just banged wheels. That was probably the least kind of controversial of all the moves in the end, in my opinion, personally, that the one where he moved over, and I've seen a lot of people go, Orlando could have used the curb. But the driving throughout the whole thing was quite extreme. And you can argue that maybe in a bizarre way he's come out of it even better because he's still in every driver's head of you can't.

pass me or I will crash into you. And it will make him feared the next time Lando tries to do it again. And also, he somehow ended up sticking some new tyres on, getting back. I think he has to get

some credit, just while we're talking about driver analysis of the way Lando drove back to the pits versus the way Max drove back to the pits and Lando's completely DNFed and written off his car and maybe went too fast. and Max has maybe gone a bit more chill, but we kind of spoke about in the main race. But yeah, I've gone for a seven

because it's downgraded for the fact that he could have won or finished second and he's finished fifth. Okay, dokey, I have gone for a one, a six out of ten for Max Verstappen. I can't give him the same grade as Lando because at the end of the day, he is predominantly to blame for the reason why they were both, taken out. I think that it's difficult to judge how you bring a car back to the pits,

because obviously it depends on how the carcass sits and all that sort of stuff and how the puncture unfolds. I think a lot of that is about luck as well, because I don't know, but then at the same time, I think Lando definitely was a bit more aggressive in the way in which he came back to the pits, and maybe that's why he had more of a ferocious disintegration of his car. But back to Max, it's no lower than a six, because The actual incident, I don't think there was anything malicious about it. If anything, I think that was the least aggressive defence of the lot. And that was the one that caused both of them a puncture.

The ones before, he is a very lucky boy. The first one, in particular, I think the second one was, you know, just Max doing a little bit of a don't lock up. But the first one was had Baku vibes written all over it, the way he kind of moved. As Lando went, Lando's right up his diffuser. He'll lose loads of breaking performance that way. And they're very lucky that there wasn't a massive crash for that particular one.

So, yeah, it is Max Verstapp and it's the way he drives. Should he be slandered for it? I don't think it's the worst he's ever driven in terms of a defence. It is the way he will always defend. And until the stewards do something about it, he will continue to defend that. way. So you've got to respect that he's a shoemaker. He's a he's a tenacious racer and that's what you get. And as Tommy, as you say, people fear him on the track and he definitely uses that to his advantage. So it's a six out of ten for Max, as I say, because I hold him more responsible for

the incident and that's why I've downgraded him. The fans gave Max a seven. Now how spread was that? Okay, I'll go into it. So five percent of people gave him a zero. 2% are 1, 2% are 2% a 2% a 2% a 2% a 2% a 2% a 2% a 10. 10% are 5, 17% a 6, 21% a 7, 17% and 8, 7% a 9 and 2% a 10. So it's definitely the graph of results are looking more close across the board. we very rarely see people with as close to a zero as they are a 10 basically and equally like you can see that a lot of people have been is a difficult one to grade because it's basically how you see your kind of judgment on the instant now of course people will go

oh my god max is the worst driver ever give him a zero like how dare he drive like that and other people will go, well, actually, you know, he's defended his position very extremely and still come away with a championship lead and giving him a good grade. So, like, it's how you view it, basically. This is it. It's a contentious incident. No one's ever going to agree on this sort of thing, just like no one agreed in 2021. You're all entitled to your own opinion. I will say that in the main podcast, and I'll hold my hands up, I made it sound like Max did say he said he wasn't at fault when you actually look at what he sort of said. He didn't accept blame.

That's absolutely true. But it was more like, I'll have a look at it and we'll see. But then he also went and said, like, his defences were absolutely fine. And he was basically saying that, oh, well, how it feels in the car. The XF1 drivers are entitled to their own opinion. Hence why it came across, like, Max. I don't think he apologised. Like, that is Max.

That is exactly the response. like I could have written it out like exactly how we'd respond it would be like oh I'm here to race we go racing I'm not going to let him through I'll look into it he's never gonna he's never yeah it's like a I'll look into it and you never hear from him ever again yeah exactly it's his whole persona like he's not it's clever is whether you like it or not it's very clever because at the end of the day this has happened you we can Blame Max Verstappen for, you know, it's very questionable driving. But at the end of the day, he, in a weird way, is the winner from this incident

because Lando will be, in my opinion, slightly terrified the next time he goes to overtake him, which is what all drivers do anyway. They give him so much more space because they know that they are going to get going to be raced extremely hard and it could end up in a crash. And Max is never going to basically show any kind of weakness because it is that, like you say, Schumacher-sena mentality of, well, you know, overtake me then. I dare, I dare you.

And this is what happened. And Lando had more than the opportunity to do that. And could have easily done it. Messed up his overtakes, which made for amazing entertainment, as I say, but it was not perfect from Lando side either. And that's the one thing to cover, actually, from the podcast.

So I'm not normally one to care what people think. But like we can say that a driver made a mistake while still thinking, oh my God, this is the most excitable, amazing Formula One action that we've seen in a long time. It was brilliant to watch. Can't say I agree with like, was it fair? But I'm not going to sit here and be like, I wasn't being a party pooper by going,

I don't want to see that because sign me up to that every single weekend. because it was absolute drama and I've missed it. There's no more drama than a dive bomb from 100 metres back. It really isn't. So the fans gave Max Verstappen a seven. Just. As we said. As we said.

Just to clarify, you know, just for the editor, you know what I'm saying? Just to help him, you know, just pop that in. Okay. Who is our P1? Oh, it's between two for me. And I'm going to give it to Nico Holcombberg. go on the Nico. Yes, because I was more confident in my 10,

so I'm going to give Nico the 10 and the P1 because he beat a Red Bull and it was an amazing drive. So that's, Nico is my P1. Oh, it's really close, but I think I'm going to go Nico as well. It was such a superb, superb drive. Amazing points for Hasse, particularly as, you know, we get into this part of the year. That's normally where we see Hasse just fall off a cliff

and stop scoring points and become terrible. And, well, is that not their best result of the season so far? So, yeah, they are. And they did the same, I think, in 2022 Austria or something. I saw someone posting about it. It was a sixth and an eighth. They love Austria. They do.

They really do. So yeah, that's it. Cool. Right, we're done. Driver ratings, done and dusted. I'm sure everybody will agree with our opinions. And you'll all be very nice and calm in the comments. Remember, USA live show tickets are now available.

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