P1 with Matt and Tommy - Bahrain GP (in Malaysia) Race Review

Episode Date: October 4, 2026

Carnage, chaos, emotional scenes and... software updates. This race truly had EVERYTHING, for better and for worse. And for one of us, the podium was firmly in the 'better' category. Join us t...o digest it all!Come and see our live tour 'Super Podding' this November! It's a brand new show and there are a few tickets left: http:/tix.to/p1liveFancy even more P1? Well, join our Patreon for just $5 a month! You'll get access to every P1 episode ad-free, extended versions of every 2026 race review, early access to tickets & merch, and access to our Discord server where you can chat with us and other F1 fans! Click here to sign up now: http://patreon.com/mattp1tommyFollow us on socials! You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Twitch, YouTube and TikTokP1 with Matt and Tommy is the world's biggest F1 podcast. Subscribe for new podcasts around every single race throughout the 2026 Formula 1 season! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. Finally, we are here for the pod because my goodness gracious me, that was a long viewing experience. I'm calling it an experience because it wasn't just the race that caused utter carnage. It was weather. It was technical difficulties. And I am still fully digesting what I've witnessed. And I'm sure there are many things that we will have to. talk about in driver ratings that may not even get a mention in this.
Starting point is 00:00:39 But Tommy, firstly, how are you feeling apart from incredible? Amazing. What a bonkers race. Obviously very happy with the result, but my word, like what a crazy race. The only way to describe it as bonkers, just the fact that, you know, the Bahrain Grand Prix being in Malaysia is the least weird thing about that Grand Prix because there was just absolute chaos happening everywhere. so many insane stories, people being at the, you know, literally last at one point and then getting
Starting point is 00:01:10 on the podium, carnage, chaos, software problems, rain, looking like when are we ever going to start this race? Just absolutely insane, all of it. So look forward to this podcast being as long as that race. It might well be. Let's see. Let's see how the conversation goes. I am thinking about how people look at, you know, back at statistics, records, all that kind of stuff, 50 years from now, and look at Bahrain, you know, on Wikipedia or whatever and be like, oh, oh, well, there was monsoon conditions in Bahrain. In Bahrain, what happened? Yes, indeed. But it was in Malaysia, as we have been reminding you all week long. Now, a quick shout out to our wonderful P1 patrons who will be getting extra chat at the end of every single race.
Starting point is 00:01:59 review as well as ad free listening, early access to P1 live show tickets, access to our Discord and so much more. If you're not part of the Discord and everything else I've just mentioned, come and join the P1 Patreon. Now, Tommy, we're going to start with your most memorable moment. As much as there are so many things to choose from, I think I know what you're going to go for. Valtry Bottas is spent.
Starting point is 00:02:24 No, it is not. It is, of course. Max Verstappen. winning a crazy race, breaking the P1 curse, you know, after we interviewed him, that normally we post a video with a driver and immediately the next race day, DNF. And he looked so dominant this weekend, but it doesn't really tell the whole story of the race because he had so many problems, the steering problem, at the start of the race, thinking, oh no, is he even going to start the race?
Starting point is 00:02:54 then of course succumbed to a bit of software issues which we'll dive into very shortly that affected a lot of different cars in absolute chaos and then you know in the race had a really poor start behind the Merck's
Starting point is 00:03:12 gets past Russell then we think oh okay like surely he's got this race in the bag now he's going to pass Antonelli we get a safety car has what is that going to be his opportunity and then yeah he did get past Antonelli, pull away, but then more jeopardy and more safety cars and, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:30 it was just absolute carnage. And then of course, Antonelli was closing in at the end on that restart, looking like it could be quite close. But certainly not a plain sailing race. And then just to add to even more chaos and how bizarre and weird and everything that's just happening this weekend, they didn't even have the Dutch National Anthem. So you had what I think will actually be a really cool and memorable moment, no pun intended, of like when you look back at Max's career and remember that moment where everyone was singing the unofficial Max Verstappen anthem of the do-do-dood-do and the crowd is singing it, he's on the podium. And yeah, it was a crazy moment and a crazy race for Max. It really was. You know, when you look at it on paper,
Starting point is 00:04:19 it does not tell the story of what we have just witnessed in Malaysia. Yeah, what a dominant weekend from Max. He's looked the favorite from pretty much out the blocks, which for your sake, I know you're very happy about. I know that you would have had your pessimistic brain locking in at least seven different times. Oh, 100 times. Even on the last lap.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Yeah, surely not going to win. I know you were like genuinely heavy breathing on the watch long. And I'm like, bro, he's one and a half seconds clear. You're okay. Don't worry about it. It's almost like these cars could shut down. any moment and need a restart. That's true. That's true. George Russell will know that. But yeah, I think it was, you know, a phenomenal performance from Max, you know, the minute that Red Bull,
Starting point is 00:04:59 which, you know, in his hands was the fastest package. But there's always that debate of how much does Max bring to the table. But, you know, this was, this was brilliant. He had so many things to deal with. He had a huge lead, which was then obviously taken away because of the safety car. He then had, well, he had two safety cars to deal with, one where he was obviously behind Kimmy, managed to make it through as you mentioned. And overall, I couldn't see anyone else winning despite the conditions. You know, Max in the Wet was brilliant to watch. He was all over the back of Kimmy. Obviously got through on George as well, apart from having a terrible start, which was a bit of a mystery as to why he was so slow off the line. In fact, he was similarly fast off
Starting point is 00:05:42 the line as Lewis Hamilton was on soft tyres. That's how bad he was on the run down towards term one. It's crazy to think he was battling with Liam Lawson of all people at the start. That would not have, no one could have predicted that to happen. I know. If you'd have said, how's Max going to do at the start? He's going to be battling Liam Lawson into turn two. Yeah, that was unexpected. No disrespect to Lawson, but he's not in the top running car.
Starting point is 00:06:07 No disrespect. It was brilliant from Lawson, like crazy start. And another thing to add to Max's race as well, don't feel like we've seen him that emotional, really, about a win for, for, quite some time. He looked maybe drained. He was obviously probably drained a bit from the weather and stuff with the amount he was drinking in the cool down room and slurping. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Those mics, I know they're sensitive. I know they're sensitive because they want to pick up every word that they say, but my God, that was Slurp City. Like there was just drinking everywhere. Yeah, it was like watching a P-1 watch long, to be honest. So, But yeah, it was it was mental to watch. Now, I think we need to at this stage, rewind. Okay, not even lap one. We're going to go to the formation lap. Because that, as Liam Lawson said,
Starting point is 00:07:07 he said, what the F is going on? And we were all thinking that because it was utter carnage. And I've been doing a bit of a deeper dive into exact, what went on because that formation lap chaos was utterly bizarre. Some drivers were pressing down on the throttle and nothing was happening. Hamilton was I think the biggest of the lot in terms of how slowly he was crawling around. And let me kind of break it down for you from what I understand at least and what I've looked up. because it all comes down, unsurprisingly,
Starting point is 00:07:46 for the 2026 power units. We love talking about the power units, don't we? And we have never encountered, up until this point, a genuinely wet race. Of course, we had the Canada, someone intermediates and things like that, but this was the wettest, I think, that the drivers have had to deal with
Starting point is 00:08:04 in race conditions. And so we don't usually get very technical, but I think that we have to. Well, we need to. Because people need to know what on earth went on because I jinxed it by saying that, you know, we should be fine because obviously when we had the rain delay, normally the whole talk of a rain delay is, what's the point of the wet tire? They should be out there and the big problem is normally the spray. But with, of course, now the fact that the Formula One cars aren't so kind of based on like the ground effect and the floor, the spray shouldn't be as bad. But instead they decided, no, let's make software not work in the rain.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I also saw, before we get into all of it, Ocon, saying that he had to restart, like it was Windows computer or something. I've got his quote here, quote of the race from S van Ocon. I think it was, yeah, it was, it was Canal Plus. So French TV asked, what was wrong, what happened on the formation lap? And he said, they are remote control cars. I had to restart Windows. Oh, dear. Right, let's get slightly technical then.
Starting point is 00:09:13 So essentially, the 2026 engine, shock, that's what is, the power units, ridiculous. They discovered a wet weather software bug. That's what we're going to call it, right? This is like they've never experienced this before. No one saw this coming. So at extremely low safety car speeds, the turbo was despooling, okay? The electrical system was being asked to fill this massive torque hole, right? And once that energy disappeared, some cars physically,
Starting point is 00:09:41 couldn't deliver the torque the drivers were requesting. So there's this rule as well around, and this is where I'm not going to get too detailed with it, but there's limitations to what the electrical energy or whatever can do within the engine to ensure that it doesn't accidentally create traction control. So there are a lot of limitations, a lot of things within the power units that stop drivers doing certain things. And this is essentially why Hamilton was flawed. the pedal and couldn't go anywhere because of this ridiculous, like, slow driving in the
Starting point is 00:10:17 wet, and then them asking for power that the engine just couldn't do. So it was full reliance on the internal combustion engine. And it's like, bro, I ain't got nothing left. And then it was, yeah, that plus limitations is what I'm understanding anyway, at least. As much as there's this whole, like, marshalling post as well thing that they were throwing out there, which I don't know if that's... Seems like a distraction to me. Yeah, that's what I, that's basically what I thought as well when we were sat there is like,
Starting point is 00:10:46 surely it's not just a marshalling thing. But then after all of that, maybe it's a combination of both of them, they then sent an update, like an in-game patch to the cars. That is the wildest thing I've ever witnessed in Formula One of like, guys, you need a patch now. We were sat watching the cars download an AI update in the pit lane. That's why we were taking so long to get underway. It is utterly insane that that's what happened. And I know that some people,
Starting point is 00:11:20 people are like, what's not really into do with the power industry? It's to do with the marshalling software, whatever. Whatever it is, is all linked to the power units. I can promise you, a VA engine with a nice little battery in there is not going to be causing these kinds of issues.
Starting point is 00:11:34 So I firmly say right here, right now, get rid of these damn power units because it is a disgrace to Formula One. Yes, we've had an amazing, a great race, right? It wasn't like from start to finish, utter carnage, but there were moments of awesomeness, right? And I don't want that to distract from the fact that we still have severe issues with these cars and these power units.
Starting point is 00:11:58 And if this is genuinely what Formula One and the FIA have had to do to get Audi to join, I'm sorry, let's, let's revert, let's say, let's put our hands up and go, fine, We've spent a lot of money on this, but we got it wrong. V8s are coming. Not 2031. Let's speed it up, okay? Let's spool up those changes and sort it. But hopefully that made some sense.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I mean, you need a degree to understand Formula One these days. It's painful. All that just to have a Audi, just for kick sell to re-livery their car and finish 11th every week. Brilliant. Yeah. Fantastic. But look, it's an absolute farce. Like you say, this is why people are just wanting to go to more simple engines. And they're wanting to go down that route. You know, this is, this is ridiculous, like what's happening. And it's just so needlessly complicated. You know, there was a bit where they were talking about these power units are very impressive. And it's like, I'm, and it's like, I'm not. Are they, though? Because if anything, it's kind of embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:13:11 There's nothing impressive about it because Formula One, yeah, who's impressed by it? Because if you're even going down that route of like, Formula One needs to be road relevant and stuff. You know, I don't want to be super clipping down the motorway. I don't, you know, we don't need that. That's not, there's not what. He's a fast driver. He's auto-bar levels. We don't need to be, you know, I don't want the rain to come down and I'm having to download a software patch in the hard shoulder.
Starting point is 00:13:37 you know, it's just ridiculous. You do have a Tesla though, mate, so you probably do after occasionally. Oh, yeah, probably do, actually, yeah. I will say actually on this, isn't it? The own, like, I'm sure the actual technology of making these cars work is impressive. It's impressive. It's impressive. But, like, people that enjoy that side.
Starting point is 00:13:53 But I'm sorry, the majority of people that watch Formula One don't watch for the impressiveness of the technology underneath the hood of a Formula One car. You just don't. So, yeah, it's, uh, it was painful to watch. it was a it was a farce and hamilton was but again they get away with it again they get like you say like i don't want you you're like i don't want it to we don't want to forget that this has happened we will because we've had an exciting race this happened as one and yet again these outrageous regulations and and silliness of this they're getting saved every week by you know it was a farce in um,
Starting point is 00:14:34 Australia and you know, they can go, look, we had a battle for the lead and all these amazing overtakes and whatever. It was a farce when they were like super clipping at Monza and we're going, what an absolute disgrace.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And we had an absolutely unbelievable race and Antonelli won from 19th. And again here, you know, it's almost like, for a lot of people, this won't be the narrative. And they,
Starting point is 00:14:55 and you know, they're getting away with it again. And it's just ridiculous. Yeah. We have to talk about it because it, It's just, is a farce. Yeah, it was a shame to watch. Let's go to a question from P1, Patreon member Piper MZM mimic X.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Was that formation lap a bad sign for these cars' ability to drive in the wet? Are the FIA going to try to avoid wet races now? I think there will be panic stations after what they saw today. They genuinely saw their product, i.e., the cars, melting in wet conditions. They must have had a heart attack seeing the Ferraris, the Hasses, the Adis, the Cadillacs, all basically grinding to a halt on the formation lap. That was the sport in the mud right there and then.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Like they are so lucky. I say lucky. They also just went, no, actually, aborted start. Everybody can start from where they qualified. That there must have been so many force-majure things where in the actual rulebook, some things would have had to stick. like Hamilton, him starting from second,
Starting point is 00:16:01 I don't know if that was actually what should have happened considering all the things that did on that formation. They're quite lucky. You mentioned that I just made me think they're quite lucky in a way that like, realistically, Anthony Lee's going to win the title, it's wrapped up because can you imagine in like a 20-21 championship
Starting point is 00:16:19 if it was between like Vastappan and Hamilton, and Hamilton had that issue and then they, or just things like that. And then, you know, that decision to start Hamilton on the front of, row would have been so much more controversial if there's a championship on the line. But instead we just won't talk about it. Like, I don't it, we just won't
Starting point is 00:16:34 be like a thing. Crazy. Not that it. Ferrari were like, actually, I think that was unfair. No, we do. Actually, we do want to start them. Yeah, yeah. We'll put him right at the back at the end of that one. Oh, God. See, it wasn't the Ferrari strategy. It was Ferrari fairness. They wanted to make sure
Starting point is 00:16:50 all the rules were fair. Rosso rules. That's their papaya rules. For fairness, we'll actually go back. But funny yeah there's this question we had years of modern Formula One being like these are the best drives in the world they should be racing in the wet just get on with it and now you know it's not even that they can get out there anymore we've got they're having to sit in the pit lane and run an update on the on the Wi-Fi yeah well they'll just have to make sure that they
Starting point is 00:17:21 release the patch notes before the start of the formation lap of the next race that is wet because yeah It was a joke. But in terms of, I mean, the FIA avoiding wet races, they avoid them anyway because of the tires. Like, Oscar Piastri still has not run the wet weather tire in a competitive session. So I'm enjoying. Can you imagine, like, seeing the amount of water. Goodness knows how long. But he's never done it.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Can you imagine seeing the amount of water and going, still not going to run the wet weather tires. Apparently Apple TV was running a promotion or something. I saw someone say in chat, like a promotion to get new viewers to watch the sport. You imagine if that was your first time watching. Sorry, you got me to watch this. Is this normal that seven cars don't make it to the grid on the formation lap? Is this normal that we sit in the pit lane while it rains because we don't want to go out and actually race? And then when we do race, all the cars break down because they need a software update.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Brilliant. Hamilton's car's got a dongle in it. Is that normal? He's updating. He's updating his car. Oh, right. Okay. Yeah, very, very strange.
Starting point is 00:18:22 But it was a bad sign that F-1. haven't thought of, I know they can't think of all probabilities, but I would even put most probabilities of where these cars and power units can just break down, because that is such a massive, like, what's the word, not foresight, the opposite of that, like. Just, I know which is, you know what I'm trying to say? I can't think of it. Yeah, my brain is so cooked.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Oversight, yes, after like four and a half hours of streaming. I can barely fit words together. but that'll make for a good podcast. You need a software update. I need a software update. Yeah, I am so quick. But yeah, I think that it is a massive oversight from F1 and the FIA. And they're so lucky as well that they haven't had a wet Grand Prix until now in the season.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Can you imagine what it had been like earlier on when the power units were even more of a joke? Well, they're lucky again that none of this causes controversy and I guess could argue that Russell had an issue, but not the issue at the start, that the issue at the start didn't affect anything to do with like championship or something crazy or affect the outcome of the race. Because, yeah, they can just kind of say, oh, well, you know, start a great race. Let's get on the podium and celebrate.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Okay, let's go on to a question away from that carnage. I think we've covered most of that. P1P3 member, Stella. Is Max P3 in the championship within reach? As a pessimistic Maxa Stappen fan, I'm going to be optimistic and say that I think P2 might even be in reach at this rate. He's there. His form is absolutely unbelievable at the moment.
Starting point is 00:20:13 You know, no one is in better form. You know, like you look at the latest run of races. And Maxer Stappen's form is insane and only Kimmy Antonelli is, you know, has got that kind of similar form to what Max is doing recently. Just podiums after podiums. I think it's pretty much since Austria, other than, yeah, so since Austria, Max has been P2. Then he had the retirement in Silverstone where he's running third.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Belgium, third, Hungary second. Zandvo, right off, DNF, of course. But then Monza, third, Spain, second, Azerbaijan second. And now first. And, you know, that form, other than Antonelli, no one's near that with that level of consistency. So, yeah, what a turnaround for Max and looking like, you know, he might not get a win. And is he going to finish the championship in like seventh place or sixth? I mean, he's still six at this moment.
Starting point is 00:21:17 But he's only, you know, he's level with Lando, only three points off, Shal. And, you know, the fight for P2 is absolutely Titanic. 48 points behind George Russell is Max Verstappen, and we'd be hyping this up as a title fight if that was first and second. We would. I completely agree with you. I completely agree with you. I think that Vestappen is the four man.
Starting point is 00:21:37 The only one, as you said, in that run of races, is Zanvort. I think he was no chance going to be sitting on the podium there. Yeah, yeah. But Silverstone was, as you say, a podium that was lost. So, yeah, I think for Max, you know, you know, 132 points, Tommy. Mathematically. It would have been, not funny is the wrong word, but like if Antonelli would have retired instead of Russell,
Starting point is 00:22:02 then generally would have been like, Max, could he? No, no chance. It would have been 114 points instead, so still massive. It's still obscene. It's not going to happen. No, it's not. But, yeah, Max, like, again, speaking of, like, his race and how him winning that race didn't tell the whole story,
Starting point is 00:22:23 imagine if he finishes second or third in the championship, that definitely wouldn't have told the whole story of his season at all because it was an absolute, you know, dire straits at one point. Yeah, I was literally taking the Mickey out of you. And now three points behind Chau LeClaire. I'm not happy. I'm not happy at all. Like, why can't I just have one season
Starting point is 00:22:42 where you don't have a great season compared to my favourite driver? P1 Patreon, remember Thimmer, how happy is Tommy for the return of the Max Vestappan podcast? Well, it's all because of the P1 podcast, right? the P1 podcast has formed that Max Verstappen interview, which has then created the return of the Vastabin podcast. It's all us. Nothing to do with this drive.
Starting point is 00:23:06 All us. Finally, just all of that bad luck we've given all the other drivers. We've then channeled into Max to be good luck. True. It was a pretty quiet Max Verstappan podcast. It was more just actually an SMR video. To be fair with all the weird slurping noises and all the, and all the water that all three of them were drinking
Starting point is 00:23:27 because obviously an extremely hot race. No, co-cove-to-be-sing. No, all the drivers were just drinking, drinking water. And yeah, because the mics are like trying to pick up every bit of conversation, it was very loud. You could hear literally everything. Yeah, the cool-down room was pretty quiet, really. The only moment they really sort of reacted to and laughed at was Kimmy Antonelli
Starting point is 00:23:53 and how close he got to the ballard situation and almost giving himself a drive-through penalty, which we spoke about in the practice one, that even though they moved to the ballard further back, Antonelli was still like, no, I do like a track limits, actually. Let's go wide and just about avoided it, wiped out the ballard, but he did say to the left of it. I don't think that even got investigated,
Starting point is 00:24:16 but it was the right choice not to do anything about it. He just stayed in, because if he hadn't, of course, he would have had to drive through the pit lane and lost an absolute heap of time. He certainly would have. Yeah, I wasn't surprised to see no investigation for it. He tried everything he could to not hit the bollard and technically went to the left of it, even if he did hit it. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:24:40 But yeah, it was a very relaxed, quite tired. Max Mustafa's podcast, as you say, they've been through a lot and it is very humid. They were exhausted. Yeah, exactly. So it's well done to all the drivers for surviving that. and all the software glitches. All right, let's move on, move on, move on, to my most memorable moment.
Starting point is 00:25:00 There was a lot of M's there and I got confused as to what to say first. I have gone for the fact that Ferrari have somehow finished third and fourth in a race where they were plum last after that one. That is, the predictions gods are against me this year and this was, I mean look, they gave me something of like, here you go, here's a Ferrari comeback,
Starting point is 00:25:31 here's third and fourth. It was going to be fourth and fifth. It was literally going to be fourth and fifth until Russell's engine and power unit gave up, of course. But, yeah, utterly ridiculous, the fact that they finished third and fourth. And again, doesn't really tell the story of their race at all when you see where they qualified.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Lecler's race was a little bit more adventurous, let's say. Of course, lost his front wing or part of his front wing into the back of an Audi. I think it was Holkenberg, which... Yeah, maybe it was Bortelette. I can't remember. I think it was Hulk. Either or, it was an Audi,
Starting point is 00:26:07 and that's meant he had to come into the pits to get that changed. And overall just seemed a little bit slower than Mr. Sir Lewis Hamilton. It was, yeah, it was, I kind of went into the race with no real aspirations. I was like, wet weather, Ferrari, it's just, it's a right-off.
Starting point is 00:26:30 And then after they chose to start on the soft tires, I was like, cool. That's why you went for it. You thought Ferrari in the rain are going to be. I just thought they'd be slow in the rain, but no, they just went, we'll be even slower because we'll start on the dry tires. What's hilarious is,
Starting point is 00:26:45 Just to the right of me, obviously, we've done the watch along. I was wondering what you were looking at. No, my TV is still going from before. And what's funny is that the race is obviously like finished and now is being replayed back on Sky. And currently, as I'm seeing it, we're on lap 5. Lewis Hamilton is 17th, 56 seconds off the lead on lap 5. And Charlotte Clare is 1 minute and 14 seconds off the lead in last,
Starting point is 00:27:11 and they finished third and fourth. it is absolutely insane how Ferrari have come away from that with that result it's one of those things they wear you kind of look at it and go well well done for rights kind of saved their blushes a little bit but the pace Hamilton had in particular it feels more like a what might have been
Starting point is 00:27:35 how do you side on the front row we have a question Tommy don't get jump the gun P1 Patreon member Alpha 44 could Lewis have won the race? I mean, we will never know because he was never in that situation. But his pace, obviously it's a lot of ifs, buts and maybe, is because had he started the race on the intermediate tyre, got a decent start and Max de Stapen had had the start he had,
Starting point is 00:28:08 Lewis would probably be leading. and the pace that he had looked very, very strong at the start and the soft tires he was unbelievable. Didn't look as strong, of course, when he did have to switch to the mediums, but it's one of those hypothetical scenarios where so much in that race happened and there were so many crazy moments
Starting point is 00:28:28 that bore everything into chaos. You never know that if you run that race again with Ferrari on intermediates, would Max mess up the star? Would Antonelli get a great start? Would George retire? There's almost like too many, there's too many unknowns. But what you can say is that Lewis had unbelievable pace in that race,
Starting point is 00:28:51 some of, if not the best pace of the whole grid. So even though they've kind of, Ferrari have saved their blushes a bit with the ridiculous call, and he's got to P3, there was definitely a possibility. for him to challenge a victory, I think, in that race with the pace that he in particular had. Yeah, there was a chance, and it was hard to really do a full-blown comparison
Starting point is 00:29:20 until quite literally the end of the race, because if you don't forget, you know, that first safety car where Bottas went off, Hamilton didn't pit. So he was on 10-lap older soft tyres than everyone else around him, but at the same time was putting in really fast lap times, of course, passing cars that were. slower than him.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I think after seeing that final sort of shootout, I don't want to disrespect the pace that Max was putting down in this race. I do think that Max still would have won. But as you say, there's so many scenarios that could have happened if Hamilton was in the mix. But I do think, and I'm sure, you know, if we're going to go like, at the Avengers type style of like, I'm sure there are many realities where Hamilton did with that race.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I do think there's more realities where Vastappan did because he was really, really quick. I think Hamilton would have finished second if I was to bet, if he'd started on intermediates. I think he would have had Antonelli and Russell's number. I just don't know whether he would have had Vastappans because Max was really quick. And I tried to keep an eye on the sort of times that they were all doing.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And at the end, Max did clear off. And Hamilton, it's not like Hamilton was right on the back of Antonelli or was catching him in the last cup. pool. He wasn't able to close by a significant margin to make me think, wow, he could have genuinely beaten Max. But that's not to take anything away from Lewis. I think the Ferrari was not as quick as the Red Bull or maybe even the Mercedes round here. And that's why I flopped them. I thought Ferrari would be pretty poor. But Lewis was brilliant. And as I said, I was so, so impressed by that stint where he was on older tires than the drivers ahead of him.
Starting point is 00:31:08 So phenomenal from Lewis. He had the measure of Sharl all weekend. I can't say anything other than that. As much as, you know, I'm kind of depressed, really, as a LeCler fan because Hamilton just, yeah, really showed his experience around here as well. I think he just, there's no sort of coincidence that the Vestappans, Alonzo's and Hamilton's, did really well around here. And I think Hamilton really did show his prowess this weekend.
Starting point is 00:31:35 So well done to Hamilton and deserved a podium. and I can't believe he got one after Ferrari's blunder. I will actually say, yeah, do we get into that really as a whole question? There's actually one from P1 Patreon member, Anna Biyerke. Why did so many drivers start on slicks and why didn't more of them switch tires before the standing start? Now this is what I wanted to get into, so beautiful segue. The strategy. Of course, you had more start.
Starting point is 00:32:08 on the intermediates then you did the dries you had both McLaren's starting on the mediums you had both Ferrari starting on the softs and that's the kind of main competitors right you had a few towards the back that were also starting on the dries I think Alonzo started on the dries didn't he I think the Cadillacs maybe did as well or one of them but either or the Cadillacs didn't really feature until Bottas was a Lonzo Hamilton gravel bearman have the Alpines as well going for it so they yeah so they're people A few people risked it, didn't they? And then obviously, McLaren.
Starting point is 00:32:41 But I will say that this is not like the most insane blunder of all time. I think it's a risk. And they've assumed things that didn't happen. Those assumptions, and even Mercedes, right, Bradley Lord said in commentary that it was a really close decision between starting on the softs and starting on the intermediates. I think that hindsight is a wonderful thing in this situation to go, well, obviously. obviously the intermediates. I'm not going to sit here and completely blast Ferrari
Starting point is 00:33:13 as much as it was a horrendous call. I'm not going to blast them for trying to start on drys. I'm going to blast them more, crazy sentence, for not pitting before the start. I know Hamilton committed to it and said, look, we've made this decision and perhaps,
Starting point is 00:33:31 you know, reacting a little bit on emotion as well in the fact that like, well, you know, you've told me this. And I feel like I saw something that said that he sort of wanted to lean more towards the intermediates, but then they've decided to go for the dries. Yeah. Yeah, I think as Piastri showed, pitting and going, look, we've made a mistake, but let's be on the right tire from the start of the race, was absolutely the right decision. But Ferrari kind of just sort of dug deep and went, no, we are going to carry on. I think LeCler wanted to pit as well.
Starting point is 00:34:05 but they said no that's more of the disaster I think is going well it's going to dry eventually right but they were losing so much time it's so good the best thing about Formula One is where it's that really narrow window
Starting point is 00:34:20 and no amount of computers and data and practice running and everything can tell you what's the right thing to do and it is literally just a case of like gambling because you look because it's easy to say in Hindust sight. Oh my God, Ferrari, absolute idiots and, you know, same with McLaren. But you,
Starting point is 00:34:42 if you would have asked us, and we were obviously watching along, we were also questioning like, oh, it looks really dry now. They're all going to start on dries. But then when it was a mix up, as the pessimistic Max has happened fan that I am, when I saw Max was on Inters and Hamilton was on the soft tire, I was like, oh God, you know, Max is now going to have to pull away, hope that it happens enough. So that's one side of it, but the other side of it is when you have that moment where you have the opportunity to change
Starting point is 00:35:18 and you are losing so much time, like an absolutely obscene amount of time, I find it weird when teams just go, this is our decision we have to go for it because you are losing like an entire pit stop in like a couple of laps that it's just not worth it. you know if if in like a few laps suddenly it does dry out and the dries are the best in two laps that still you know that they were so far ahead you know i'm here on lap six and piastri who made
Starting point is 00:35:48 that gamble or made the decision and the right decision to get back on intermediate ties be on the right ties you need to be sacrificing his grid position entirely was 35 seconds clear of norris by lap six. So that's easily a whole pit stop anyway. So in those situations, there is a reason you have to be on the right tire at the right time. Like that is that is the best way for it. As much as sometimes you can have these amazing tire gambols for the most part of it, the best thing to be in Formula One. And this this also happened to McLaren at Montreal is be on the best ties of the conditions at that exact moment and that's the best place to be.
Starting point is 00:36:37 And unfortunately for quite a few of them, the Ferraris and McLaren, they were the ones that messed up, took a risk. And Hamilton said himself, as soon as he saw the tire blankets go off and saw that Vastappan was on Inter's and he was on softs, he said his heart sank.
Starting point is 00:36:55 But that's when you have to make the decision and go, well, we need to sacrifice P2. He saw it was too well on the formation. lap. It's not going to dry that quickly. You need to be on the right tires and just start from the back and see what you can do. Because his race if he hadn't have got that safety
Starting point is 00:37:11 car and the safety cars that we had, he'd never have been in the position. He was miles behind. They were about to be lapped not too far. Tell us, Tommy, you've got the live replay right now. On lap, yeah, that's what I'm saying. On lap six,
Starting point is 00:37:28 Hamilton's a minute off the lead and Lecler's a minute 14. So Yeah, and the car is catching rapidly at that point because he's on the intermediate. Because he's on the intermediates. And then he. 10 out of 10. So, yeah, it's a, it was a crazy situation, wasn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:43 And I can see, like, when you're on the pit wall, right? And obviously they've made that decision to start on the dries and then they've committed to starting the race. It then is just gambling. It's like, you know, Lecler staying out in Madrid until the last lap and then changing tires, hoping for a red flag. Like, they are hoping for. probably a safety car to come out really early doors in that race
Starting point is 00:38:06 so that they can pit under the safety car and it's not as much of a loss. But that never came. No one on those dry tires. And by the way, I want to say I saw on boards of Hamilton in those opening phases. All of those drivers that were on dry tires on that track, well played because it was so tough.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Hey, Bottas actually spun off not in those conditions. He spun off when it was drier. Yeah, true, actually. Even worse. But I saw Hamilton's on board and it's just so brilliant to watch them just feel every single bit of movement in the car and to not just spin out. Alonzo, not mentioned Alonzo was on dry tires as well. Yeah. And, you know, the best drivers can deliver in that situation. Yeah, it was just great to watch as much as they were losing 20 seconds a lap at the start.
Starting point is 00:38:54 But yeah, Ferrari were hoping for a miracle and it came, but not in the way that they thought it would. and it was a later safety car that brought them back into play. Let's go to Elite Merchant and their question, when people really do a proper analysis on this championship, will they talk about how much luck has favoured Kimmy instead of George? They shouldn't do because... I know, the luck debate again. Yeah, the luck debate.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Did we not talk about this enough after Madrid? There is nothing that gets you more haters in Formula One than leading and winning the world championship. Lando last year, Max Osteappan, suddenly, you know, people are really liking him. When he was dominating, people are like, oh, I don't like him. And, you know, it is so funny.
Starting point is 00:39:39 And Sebastian Vettel, as soon as he stopped winning everyone, you know, oh, he's so great. It is amazing how, like, in Formula One, you seem to get so hated for winning. And at the end of the day, Kimmy is finishing whatever George retires. Like, yes, Kimmy Antonelli has taken an 18 points. swing, got 18 points because George has retired, but Kimmy was ahead. And you said to this in the
Starting point is 00:40:07 watch along and completely agree that it's getting for George, but realistically, he's not deserving more than Kimmy Ansonelli of winning this title. It is not, you look at that situation of George retiring, and you cannot compare it at all to like a Lewis Hamilton when he retired at Malaysia and it swung the championship. Because Kimmy is so far ahead, so far ahead. 84 points. 84 points. And the reason Kimmy is so far ahead, yes, he's had some good fortune. He's also had some bad luck. George's had good fortune and bad luck as well.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Even if you, even if, like, we're not going to like go through every single moment, but even if you did factor in that George's maybe had more bad luck, we had this debate when we were doing predictions in Baku, there's been barely any races this year where George has been quicker than Kimmy. It's been what like three? Tell me enough circumstances that gives him an extra 84 points, George Russell. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's not the case. And if you want to, if you want to pick apart the championship and say it's only between the two Mercedes drivers, who's been the better driver, it's Antonelli all day long. You luck correct it. Antonelli has been ahead of George in way more races.
Starting point is 00:41:27 He's been quicker in way more races than George Russell. He is driving better than George Russell this season. So yes, it's gutting for George that he's had another technical gremlin, and it's easy to go, oh, you know, something doesn't want him to win the championship. Antonelli has just simply been better this year. We've spoken about this before, but we can genuinely count on one hand how many times Russell has been quicker than Anthony Lee this year. 100%.
Starting point is 00:41:53 And people to say he's lucky. Like where are we seeing this? Even again, and also, and also what I'll say is like, you saw a moment there where George, I know he had like, it's clear that he's just not comfortable in the car, he's got nothing more to give, but Antonelli, George Russell was ahead, got ahead at the start, Antonelli was behind him, and you're like, right,
Starting point is 00:42:18 George, you're going to defend for everything it's worth, are we going to see like a bit like a Canada where they're swapping positions and crazy? he was just like, all right, see you later. Off you go. So that's not going to win you the championship, is it? No, he didn't defend at all hard when Kimmy came through, and we both questioned it when it happened.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I do understand that if he does throw a shape to the inside, Kimmy's probably taking the outside line and then swooping past at the next corner. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, it splits second decisions, and I'm sure that's what George is thinking is that maybe I can get him back on the next lap. But at the same time, you've got to make it at Petronus's home race. True. Yeah, but that's more leaning towards,
Starting point is 00:42:57 are you genuinely concerned about your seat at Mercedes? Yeah, yeah. If that's even going through your mind, if we can't make contact here at our home race from Petronus, yada, yada, yada, yada. I've got to behave here, yeah. Still mathematically, in with a shout of winning the championship. So, yeah, there wasn't enough of that sort of Canada tenacity
Starting point is 00:43:15 that we saw from George. And that's what I would have liked to have seen. But in the end, he didn't have the pace of Kimi and was falling behind a little bit. He was about five seconds or so behind before that last safety card came out, I believe. I think it was more of a shame as well, wasn't it, because of the fact that the last race he was there, had a brilliant win, dominated the whole weekend, and then he was like, well, just have to win every race. And sort of we were saying like, oh, okay, he's like piling a bit of pressure on Kimmy now and could this switch?
Starting point is 00:43:43 And then he had the opportunity where he's ahead of Kimmy. Kimmy goes ahead. And it was just like, oh, that's a shame. It's just kind of gone by and there was no drama or anything of it. no no there wasn't it was bizarre how much better kimmy was was than george out of turn two uh and the run up down towards the next right hander where he obviously overtook him like he got an amazing run he positioned his car brilliantly as well it was like half a second coming out of turn two and then he's gaining four tenths just out of the sort of exit of the corner and uh yeah it's uh definitely it was
Starting point is 00:44:17 it was Kimmy was better and faster this weekend uh and has been for much of the season as this quite like that's why rubbish is this question in my opinion. Indeed. Right, let's go on to another question, still linked with safety cars. P1 Patreon member, Jess, what was Lando doing under the safety car? It's a great question, Jess, because I don't think either of us really know. I put it down to lapse of concentration, to be honest with you. I think that was, you know, obviously warming up the tires, doing a lot of weaving, and then he didn't break early enough. I know that he kind of said that everyone slowed down and whatnot, but that's literally what happens under a safety car, is that they sometimes bunch up and into term one, that's what they did.
Starting point is 00:45:00 And it is Landau's responsibility. And in fairness, he did also say that, yes, it's his responsibility to slow down. And it was a big error. And it was one that could have taken his teammate out of the race under the safety car, which would have, yeah, lit in the whole of social media on fire, I think. Oh, my word. So it was entirely Landau's full. I'm not going to, it reminds me of, I think, Lance Stroll under the,
Starting point is 00:45:22 the safety car in China, do you remember when he just randomly crashed into the back of someone and was like, well, why is everyone concertina and whatever, it's like, whatever, it's your responsibility to not be going at too fast of a speed under safety car conditions. As of recording right now, nothing's happened of that. I'm going to have a quick look and see if anything's updated, Tommy, whilst you give me your opinion on the whole incident. Yeah, it was, it was absolutely mad because I don't know about you, but when I, and again, this just sums up the kind of craziness of this race that when George Russell basically pulled to the side of the track and
Starting point is 00:45:58 ended up obviously out of the race the camera then cut to Lando in the gravel and my initial thought was like what's what's gone wrong with the cars now are they all breaking again? Yeah yeah that's what's going on? But it was yeah Lando just completely misjudged it. No decision yet. I can see. No decision. So he misjudges it and you know george's obviously pulled to the side of the track there and it's happened kind of
Starting point is 00:46:28 going into turn one but the excuse for me doesn't really it doesn't buy it for me because it's late on into the corner that they're almost like they're slowing down for that corner anyway it's not like we've seen situations before um i think botas did it on a restart once where and actually magello is a great example if you remember the big crash that they had at megello where yeah They didn't want to be slipstream. They stopped and everyone bunched up and then it caught loads of people out. This is now, you know, it wasn't like that. They were all kind of going into the corner down the straight.
Starting point is 00:47:01 And it's seeming like he's kind of just going down the straight and he's just been caught out by the fact that everyone is there going into the corner breaking for it. And he's so lucky that he didn't go into the back of Piastro. Because as you say, after everything that happened last race, with that situation had he gone into the back of his team mate my word that would have been
Starting point is 00:47:28 something that would have been something for sure now no update on the Lando thing but I have seen that there's been an FIA statement about the whole formation lap shenanigans so I'm going to read this out to you I haven't read it so it might be boring but let's see
Starting point is 00:47:42 FIA statement on the formation lap ahead of the Barring Grand Prix in Malaysia an unprecedented combination of low engine speed, low grip conditions, wet weather energy management settings, and the Sapang circuit's sector configuration led to an unintended loss of power for a number of cars. As a result, the FIA Technical Department removed the energy limit constraint in the affected sectors through an updated software release distributed to all competitors during the race delay,
Starting point is 00:48:14 caused by heavy rain enabling teams to make the necessary changes to the power unit before the start of the race. This issue had not been detected by the FIA or the teams during testing or during the laps to the grid. The FIA, together with the teams and power unit manufacturers, will undertake a full review of the issue. I mean, classic, like, as if they've, I mean, at least they've not tried to make an excuse, which, you know, you mentioned about the whole, like, Marshall Post thing.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I'm glad they've not tried to hide what's happened. Of course, it's like odd circumstances, and they're kind of admitting that that they just didn't have that. They didn't see that coming. I love odd circumstances being wet weather. Wet weather. Like low grip, low speed. It's like, yes, that is called wet weather.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Yeah, exactly. And behind the safety car. So it seems too coincidental that they're saying all these other points, but actually it's the first time we've seen any like proper wet weather in that situation. And also, yeah, I mean, I mean, that proof again is straight to your point of like, this doesn't happen with just a V engine and a battery push to pass burn. I know.
Starting point is 00:49:31 I mean, like, the rest of the car is great. They can follow pretty well. Yeah, yeah, they can. Chassee is great. Just rip it out and let's just do a one, let's do a trial race. Okay, let's go. V8s for the next race. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Just see what doesn't even have to be a championship race. Kimmy's won it, so it doesn't really matter. We can just test the rest of the season, right? Season now, yeah. Exactly. Let's get a question for people on pitch. Remember, Mazda Londis F1 team. Should Malaysia be brought back
Starting point is 00:50:01 if they can sort out the multiple issues fans had while leaving the track? Yeah, I feel sorry for the fans because it sounded pretty horrendous. Obviously, the turnaround time was very quick for them to get this race happening, but it doesn't excuse the fact that people were, yeah, really struggling to get out the circuit and it sounds pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:50:24 At least the fans have been treated to an incredible race, a lot of excitement. And as for the terms of like Malaysia being brought back, they said they were hopefully going to try. And I really hope this does, you know, this was the dream that we have a great race. And I think we did. you know a lot of it was due to carnage and chaos but we saw plenty of overtaking mainly in a mini box
Starting point is 00:50:51 with a lot of the midfield in particular and how that exactly as we've been gassing up for for so many years and saying that the reason we love this track is because they can have two different lines into turn one two three and four and that's exactly what happened this way And six, and six. And eight. And we saw that. We saw, you know, Fernando Alonso doing that amazing switchback and other cars,
Starting point is 00:51:17 the drivers and things doing it as well. And it allowed for great, for great racing. I really enjoyed the mini box grand prix, Tommy. I really did. It was like watching on an eight-inch television for most of it. Because I get that there was a battle, but there also wasn't a battle.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Like, you know, some will knowledge will be able to tell you whether there's going to be an overtake or not. I know that 2026 Formula One, there's battery deployment at different places. and can make crazy moves, but there were so many overtakes. So I'm like, fine, minibox cool, but like, there's so many going on that it deserved its place in the sun.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I think you said in the watchalong, it's disrespectful to the midfield in some ways, that they just didn't even bother. It was almost kind of like a lazy way of going, just chuck up the minibox, chuck up the mini box, chuck up the minibox, chuck up the minibox. It was just a bit of a shame because there were so many great moves. It's not like these were just motorway passes on the, on the straight. There was switchbacks. there were all kinds of stuff going on that I think deserved to be shown.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Because as much as it is in the mini box, you don't get the full appreciation of a move unless it is the front and centre thing. I'm not expecting it all the time. But when the gap is eight tenths, nine tenths between Hamilton and Hadjar, that wasn't happening for a good, good while. And they had lap after lap of them as well. Yeah, and I'm like, you kind of knew it wasn't going to happen.
Starting point is 00:52:33 It's not even a battle for the lead. If you miss it, so be it, put it up in the mini box. Whoopty-do, it doesn't really matter. But anyway, back to Malaysia. This wasn't meant to be an F1 TV directions chatter. But Malaysia, look, get the contract out right now. Get it out. Get that draft contract.
Starting point is 00:52:48 How do we crowd fund this? How do we make sure that this track stays on the calendar forever? Spanish Grand Prix in Malaysia. That's what we need. Yes. A lot of people said it. Spanish Grand Prix, Miami Grand Prix. Just all of them.
Starting point is 00:53:04 I don't mind it. It's such an amazing circuit. that yeah we had the whole crazy chaos of the cars breaking down and whatnot but it didn't take away from what the actual circuit is and it is blooming amazing and they've got the patch notes now for the race so they've got the patch notes they've they've they've got good internet to upload anything they need to but i was so happy to see malaysia back we never thought it would come back we were told it was impossible and then baron was like we'll do it in 60 days boom so thanks Fingers crossed, just like Imala, just like these other COVID tracks that have come up, Porta Malle, where we're seeing them come back again, this needs to be a number one priority. I would go as far to say as Formula One, I know you put Vegas on because you want to make a load of money, but how about we do a track like Malaysia just for the integrity of the sport? Fine, you might lose a few quid compared to what you would for Vegas. but we need to keep the life, the soul of this sport very much in the calendar
Starting point is 00:54:12 and I don't think there's any better place than here in Malaysia. Okay, let's go to P1 Patreon member K-Wings. Is Alonzo back? We need to rephrase this to Is Aston Martin back? Because Alonzo never left. He just wasn't ever noticed because he's at the back,
Starting point is 00:54:35 trundling around in an awful car. Now Honda have brought further upgrades to their engine and I think you can firmly say they've worked not worked to bring them anywhere near the top four teams which is what they wanted but a P8 ahead of Lando Norris which I think any Fernando Alonzo Aston Martin fan would have taken coming into this weekend of course there are a few factors involved there but overall they looked so much more competitive in general
Starting point is 00:55:03 that's not like a lucky Alonzo P8 of course there are a few cars, maybe you could argue out of position or not finishing with Russell. But Alonso deserved the point. He got it on pace and the podium's coming. I'll tell you. The podium is coming. It might require 15 cars requiring upgrades and patch notes. But it's not like that is a completely crazy wow, Alonzo was five seconds a lap slower but finished eight.
Starting point is 00:55:32 It was a great performance from Fernando. Even Lance Stroll finished 12th. So Aston Martin are on the up. Yeah, Fernando Alonzo, what a, what a drive. You know, he was one of those people that was on the dry tires, languishing at the back. And yet when the race, he got the fortune of the safety car and came back, and, you know, there's that famous team radio quote from years and years and years ago
Starting point is 00:55:59 when he last had a Honda engine and it got better and he said, now we can fight. it reminds me again of that because he's he's there now he's not losing a second down the straight he's able to fight cars he's able to show his class and his racecraft we saw him pass a red bull power trains engine with an unbelievable switchback um you know smart smart driver um and again you know you said this at the start that it was a chaotic and crazy race uh and you look at you know, who's getting the driver of the Dave out, and it's, you know, Max, Lewis Hamilton, and Fernando Alonso.
Starting point is 00:56:40 And Alonzo really showed that Unk still got it. Unk still has it, and I actually have a very interesting bit of a Fernando Alonzo chatter after the race, basically saying that they had to stop the race so that Hamilton could get going again with the whole pre-race stuff. And basically, he's insinuating that he's stopped in racing, earlier on in this season and they've not helped at all. MBS.
Starting point is 00:57:09 MBS, do you want to help me from here on in? But then he basically is hoping that the next time this happens to him that they'll basically come to his aid. So he's not happy. I think it goes back to our point about we don't know if that's all sort of how the rules are written
Starting point is 00:57:28 in terms of like, you know, aborting the start, Hamilton going back to second place. And I think Alonzo is very much just highlighting that. Well, we said like three hours ago when this podcast started, that we had, you know, Lewis Hamilton had that kind of good fortune. And we were saying that if that was a championship on the line, this would be so much more controversial than it was. And Fernando Alonzo has gone.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Well, actually, no, it is controversial because he should be disqualified and I should be a P7. Thank you very much. He didn't say disqualified. No, I'm joking. The back of the grid. Yeah, exactly. To be fair, he did that, voluntary. anyway, so it's not...
Starting point is 00:58:04 But he's the most competitive man and yeah, he's seen that and gone, whoa, that isn't fair really. And I do agree with him that it's a controversial decision to let Hamilton essentially back to his group position because
Starting point is 00:58:18 you know, it's unprecedented circumstances, isn't it? And just generally, the race not starting, you know, yes, there's cars that are pulling over, but so be it. Yeah, yeah. I guess they had bought the start because there are cars stranded.
Starting point is 00:58:34 But yeah, I can understand Fernando's frustration because it was very much like a one in a million, or hopefully a one in a million scenario to unfold. Okay, let's go to biggest winner. Driver or team. Who is the biggest winner this weekend? Max for Stappen, of course, getting his first winner the season. I think Lawson had a phenomenal, nominal weekend up in P-7. He was running fifth.
Starting point is 00:59:02 and would have finished fifth had it not been for Valtry Bottas going into the gravel. Yeah, the safety car, yeah, he would have. He was miles clear. The Ferraris were out of there. Yeah, no chance. C.L. Orson, because Alonso, we've shouted him out, an amazing P8 from him. But I think I'm going to go for Max Verstappen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Yeah, it's got to be Max's first win in a very long time. Seemed like he was quite emotional about it and just dominated this the weekend and everything that race throughout him, still managed to take the double E. Certainly did. And then biggest loser, that's to be George Russell. Not only did he lose his engine, but probably the championship and any hopes, or slim hopes that he would have had with it. So I don't think there's anyone that's a bigger loser. No, certainly not. He would have finished third and lost three points to Kimmy rather than 18.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Indeed, yeah, it has to be George Russell. Yeah, he was, seemed gutted at the end, but also a little bit like, what can I do? Indeed. To be fair, biggest loser might also be Matt Gallagher once we have reflected on the predictions, which we of course did at the start of the week. It is 51-36 to Tom Bellingham. And let's reflect on some of these, shall we? So a good surprise. I went for McLaren, because I thought on paper they're going to be pretty good round here turns out they weren't
Starting point is 01:00:35 turns out they really weren't and to make things worse they decided to put dry tyres on at the start so had they started on inters maybe they could have had a good result but instead not even close that was a flop every day of the week it was very floppy from McLaren
Starting point is 01:00:51 and I went for Liam Lawson what a fantastic drive you know it should be two points really he was fighting much to happen at the start. Okay, I'm joking. Fair enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Wasn't it terrible for Lawson right at the beginning as well? I feel like, because we were saying in the watch along something. Something happened in Lawson's weekend where you were like, oh, I've good surprised him. But I don't know what it was. It was because he was going to make it through, tried to get through and just missed out on Q3. Maybe, maybe it was that. Either or, yes, fully deserving of a good surprise. Well done.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Tommy. Big flop. I bagged the two points and put them in my pocket. I went for Ferrari. This was a 10-pointer. Lap five, I'm joking around about how I went for Ferrari engines, and this should genuinely be six points. But instead, Ferrari have finished third and fourth
Starting point is 01:01:46 in a race where they were 21st and 22nd after lap one. How has that happened? Crazy, cool. I mean, well done. Thank you, Ferrari, for doing a comeback that I don't really care about. in the sense of it's not first and second. It's a third and fourth, whoopty-do, one higher than the fourth and fifth you were going to get,
Starting point is 01:02:05 had George Russell's engine not gone with five laps to go, which would have been hilarious, because that's the running meme with Ferrari at the moment. So, yeah, cool, no points, and nothing to really celebrate if you're a Charlerc fan anyway. Indeed, and I went for Kimmy Antonelli. I picked the wrong Mercedes to break down. Did, you did indeed.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Popision, I went for Lando Norris, not even close won't for George Russell also not even close to have them had a really poor qualifying third place it's just a joke I should have scored
Starting point is 01:02:40 so many points this weekend I went for George Russell no nowhere near he was where did he finish yeah way off nowhere near that I went for Charlotte Claire
Starting point is 01:02:54 who was very close so oh my God if you had got that that would have read the salt into the words, wouldn't it? In second place, I went for Kimmy Antonelli, which was correct.
Starting point is 01:03:07 And I went for Landonaris, which was incorrect. And in first place, I went for Max Verstappen. So I was on for a clean sweep, one, two, three, with Ferrari in like literally plumb last. I'm thinking, right, fine,
Starting point is 01:03:20 that's painful, of course, to see Charlotte Claire in 22nd and Ferrari doing terrible. To only score, two points in the first, second, third, because George Russell couldn't finish the race. Ridiculous. Indeed.
Starting point is 01:03:35 And I went for George Russell. Certainly not. Which was never really on. Maybe for a few laps. Yeah, maybe. He had really good pace at the start, didn't he? He did. P-WATs!
Starting point is 01:03:47 It was P-17, and I went for Perez. You went for Bottas because it's just the Cadillac battle, and I scored a point on here. You did. P-17, for the record, not 17 pit-stop. which you would have also been correct closest to. He had so many pit stops, didn't he? I think it was seven in the end, wasn't it? Yeah, it was at least seven.
Starting point is 01:04:08 I think he must have run out of tyres by the end of it. Yeah, any more pit stops, and he's chucking on the wet tires in dry conditions. One crazy prediction. I went for the Mercedes Touch, which did not happen. And I went for no rain at all, which was looking very good after Saturday, and even Friday when no, you know, no rain at all. Those were the days that were the higher probability as well. Yeah, exactly, 90% chance on a Friday and it didn't rain.
Starting point is 01:04:38 And I thought, this is why I've gone for it. Yeah, indeed. Grubly was my Patreon prediction where I went for George Russell to win Driver of the Day, which is now still not happening, and he's 130 races since he last won it. I bet I wish you'd taken that new engine now and started at the back and probably would have challenged for Antonelli
Starting point is 01:05:00 with the fact that, you know, the pack closed up and everything. And I went for Sky Sierra, Ferrari on the podium. W. So. How on earth? You're telling me, sorry, just for a second.
Starting point is 01:05:16 I've gained a one point. You gained a one point. No, ridiculous. Because you, right, after lap five, you're telling me if we looked at these predictions you would have gained one point. You would have gained a point for Ferrari being on the podium and I wouldn't have got two points for Ferrari flopping.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Yes, and also Russell obviously on the podium as well. That's another four point swing. Yeah. I could have been, oh my God, I could have been within 10 and I'm telling your championship back on. Instead, I've gained one in an unbelievable set of predictions. I can't be asked. I give up.
Starting point is 01:05:53 I'm Bruno's doing the whole Bruno's doing the whole of the predictions Nice Next time Okay Off to the championship We all care about the family Connections top three
Starting point is 01:06:06 10 5 to the Gallagher's And I've just remembered That me and your dad Went for the same thing So My sister though She's cooked Kind of a little bit
Starting point is 01:06:18 Third place My sister went for Lewis Hamilton And I can't believe out of those three, that's the one that was right. Especially if you told me that after that one. Crazy. And my dad went for George Russell, which was incorrect.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Second place. My sister went for Max for Stappen. My dad went for Antonelli. So it gets a point. In first place, my sister went for Antonelli. That was honestly possible. When you looked to the grid, I text her. You told me and I text her and I went,
Starting point is 01:06:49 Regina, you could be in for a three pointer here. and I don't know if she's even replied since I've texted before the race. Let's see. Yeah, a tale of two family predictions there because your sister was very close with, like, if that race had run in normal conditions. And then, of course, like you were, my dad was on for the three-pointer going into right near the end of the race before George Russell was like, nope. And then it handed, not only did George Russell retire.
Starting point is 01:07:20 It's handed Hamilton. the point to your sister. Important. Still four points. That is very, very good. We've caught up by one finally. It feels like the first time in ages that got some family points. We need that constructors cash prize.
Starting point is 01:07:34 So I'm glad Regina's managed to put one on the board. Appreciate that. Okay, we are done and dusted. Thank you everybody for tuning in to this main race review podcast. Remember, go and join the P1 Patreon. If you want some more chatter, we've got some questions locked and loaded. So come and join the P1 Patreon, get ad-free listening and lots, lots more. We'd love to see you there.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Tommy, final thoughts, please, if you have any. How do I summarize? I've been sat on this chair for seven hours. I know, let me just install some new software so I can get my final thoughts in. Here we go. firmware update. Well, the max has happened.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Double. Goodness. So you're telling me yesterday it was go on Max, and today it's well done Max W. Double award-winning podcast right here. I've said everything else. Actually, I think you need to shout out. secret lab that sent you that chair
Starting point is 01:08:23 because that's a cool chair, right? That you're setting up. Yes, the lucky chair now, a red ball chair. Do you want to stand up and actually show it? Maybe I'll spin around. Or spin around. There you go.
Starting point is 01:08:31 It's on there there. And then, oh, you've just smashed into your microphone and now nobody can hear. But you can see the report. What a way. What a way to end the podcast. Thank you, everybody. We will see you very soon.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Best reactions coming out. Driver ratings. God knows how I'm going to do that. That is going to be carnage in the comments. Can't wait for it. People weren't happy, by the way, Tommy. with our Oscar Piastri grade for Baku, and honestly, I understand, and I get it.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Kind of, yeah. Yeah, because we graded Landau High for the same mistake, but it's just had more of a consequence. Yeah, but it's consequence. There is, you do have to take some consequence into it. Yeah, but I get what you were saying about Pactuary. Well, look, you look forward to... I look forward to being wrong again.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Oh, no. Yeah, can't wait. Oh, no, anyway. All right, thank you, everybody. We will see you soon. Lots of love. Take care. Adios.
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