P1 with Matt and Tommy - Baku GP Driver Ratings: F1-to-10

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

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Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matthew and Thomas. And we have locked in lots of numbers, ready to share them with the world. And we're going to celebrate because this is the first time ever that we all agree. And there's no contentious gradings whatsoever from this weekend's performances. There's nothing. There's no polar opposite numbers that you could have gone for certain drivers if you deem it a certain way. Isn't that right, Tommy? Of course.

We can all agree that we're all right. Yeah, if we're all right, you're all right. Are you all right? I'm all right. Yeah, I'm all right, mate, thanks. Right, what content, what great podcast. Let's get into F1 driver ratings straight away and start with Olly Behrman, not Kevin Magnuson because he's banned.

Started 10th, finished 10th. It's an 8 out of 10 from me. I think it was a strong weekend. It was everything he could have hoped for, really. He held position at the start. He looked quite strong in the early phases, and then I think as the medium started to degrade, he became under pressure a bit.

But at the end, he absolutely mugged his teammate. Absolutely just robbed him in broad daylight with the whole confusion around the Sines Perez crash. Bearman, who you would think, if anything, it would be the other way around, and Bearman would be the one not really paying attention to if it's a yellow flag or a VSC or a red flag. But I was Hulk that was snoozing,

and yeah, Bearman scored a point just ahead of his teammate. So I'm giving him an eight out of ten. I have gone for a nine out of ten for Ollie Behrman. I think it's a sensational job to join Hass for a one-off race. And not only, like you say, he beat Holkenberg in the race, mugged him and, you know, it could have easily finished behind Holcombberg, but made that move, which is very impressive. And he outqualified Nico Hulkemberg as well,

which is no mean feat, because, of course, that has been his most impressive thing this year, as Holkenberg qualifying extremely well and the year before. So yeah, another fantastic job by Ollie Behrman. And after his Saudi performance, probably on average, he's probably now the highest driver on average for driver ratings because he's had two very good races. He absolutely has. I'm very close to changing it to a nine, but I'm not going to, I'm going to stick with an eight for now. The fans gave him an eight. Nico Holcomberg started 12th, finished 11th.

I have gone for a six out of ten for Nico Holcombberg. Which, I know he's right behind his teammate. And I've given his teammate a nine. But his teammate has just jumped into that car, beating him in qualifying, and then mugged him in the race. And Nico Holcomburg has done 8,000 Grand Prix. And shouldn't be getting, you know,

the most experienced driver in Formula One history with his 8,000 Grand Prix. But no, Holcomburg shouldn't be getting mugged on the line and outmuscled by what is essentially a stand-in driver. So, yeah, a disappointing weekend from Hulk and, of course, missed out on the points. I've gone for a six out of ten as well, but my difference between the two teammates are two, not three points.

So let's see if that will generate some discussion in the comments. But yeah, I've gone for a six, just purely because it wasn't the greatest of weekends for Nico, as you mentioned already, Tommy Quali was not great. But I think as well, the court snoozing at the end of the race literally cost him scoring a point. Hamilton got through on him as well. Yeah, two points actually, yeah, because Hamilton got through on him as well, and it was quite

literally the penultimate lap of the race. So a big error from Nico, sadly, he still had reasonable race pace. and Hass, how are they there from where we saw them at the beginning of the year? But yeah, it's going to be a six out of ten from me, and the fans also gave Nico a six. Joe Guan Yu, everybody stick your seatbelts on and get ready. Started 17th, finished 14th. It's going to be a 7 out of 10 for Joe Guan Yu. Oh yeah.

Oh, yeah, baby. Joe Guan Yu doesn't get a five. doesn't get a six, he gets a seven, because he actually did pretty well. I think he can be very happy with this performance. Stayed on the lead lap, I think just about. I think it was a few seconds maybe between being lapped and not, but he beat his teammate.

He saw my crazy prediction and said, yes, but also a bit too much yes. So Tommy won't give me a point. Thanks, mate. Still very savagely hurt by that. But yeah, he had a very strong race. and we don't have to say, oh, well, you know, he had a this pit stop. There's no excuses.

I think he drove a reasonable good race and beat Bottas as well, which is no mean feat. I won't remind you of the moment when he pulled out the way of when he was getting lapped and he didn't give Charler DRS because otherwise you'll downgrade him to a 1. So I'm going to go for a three out of 10 for 10. for jean guan, you, I've also gone for a seven out of ten

yes, he has not been driving well recently and this was much more like it beating Bottas a track that Bottas is very good at as well and you know

his stint he went very long on the hard tyres at the start you know pitted later than album so great time management from him to deliver that strategy as well

And yes, much more of an impressive race from Joe and 14th when people don't retire anymore is basically all you can hope for in a stake now. Absolutely, 14th and two of those DNFs were on the penultimate lap. So we're basically giving him a 7 out of 10 for a 16th, which, I mean, look, it was, that car is horrific. So well on Joe. The fans gave him a 5. Wow. Disgusting. Have you watched shows race, everybody that voted a 5?

Every lap. How the turntables, everybody. Why don't you go back and watch those race? It was a seven out of ten. Disgusting. Right, Valtry Bottas started 16th, finished 16th. I've gone for a four out of ten for Valtry Bottas. Disappointing.

You know, you just said that two drivers have essentially at the front have retired from the race, which should mean you should probably move up the order, but he has not. And yeah, not great for Bottas. at all. And yeah, he actually struggled quite a lot with his

tyres unlike his teammate. And it's normally, he's the one doing a good job, but this time he was not. And he had to get out the way, didn't he? I've gone for a four out of ten for Bottas as well. Had huge degradation on the medium tyres in the first stint.

And even after then, it was Struggle Town for Bottas, who essentially finished last of the finishers. I know Peres and Sines did technically. They technically did were classified And stroll actually was also technically classified, I think But in terms of actual cars with four wheels, Bottas was the last of the finishers.

So yeah, so four out of ten. And the fans gave them a five. So you are telling me, right? Everybody voting that Joe gets the same score as Bottas. Absolutely outrageous. Yeah. How'd you like us now? We're turning it back on you.

Yeah. exactly right moving on yuki sunoda started 11th didn't finish i've gone for a six out of 10 for yuki sonoda because he did a few lap well he did one lap before he got yeated by stroll uh but he qualified all right in an rb that wasn't that great beat his teammate in qualifying then it was at the end so six out of 10 i've also gone for a six out of 10 uh yeah i can't it's very difficult one to grade because he's only done one racing lap but I feel like he deserves. He actually did 14 racing laps Tommy, but 13 of those were with a hole in the car. Yeah.

So yeah, without the hole in his car, would have won the race, of course. But no, the fact that I've given him that extra grade is because of his qualifying where he was finished quite a few places ahead of his teammate actually in qualifying. So what a shame for him that he got Lance Strolled. the fans gave him a five Daniel Riccardo started 14th finished 13th

I have gone for a 5 out of 10 for Daniel Riccardo it was just a very I know the Rube is not very good but a very average race a very bizarre race he basically went the entire way

almost and paid for sobs at the end they forgot they go home after Sonoda got hit and they were like ah well we got no more cars left and just left Danny Rick out there for 49 laps

on the hards. Yeah. Why is he, why is he pitting with two laps to go to go on the softs? Very weird. Very, very weird.

Because, yeah, it's a really, really odd choice. I guess he was just hoping for a safety car or something, which did kind of happen, but not to what they wanted.

No, not what they wanted at all. I've gone for a five out of ten as well for Danny Rick. It's interesting that he said after the race that he's never experienced graining like that and the swing of lap time was up to four seconds. So it seems to say there were quite a few drivers that were not happy with how the tyres were behaving at Baku, George Russell being another

one, which I'm sure a lot of you have seen that interview where he was furious in a George Russell manner, furious about the tyres and how they were. Where he was going, call-blimey, I'm so furious. Exactly. He really was. But yeah, it's a five out of ten, very anonymous from Danny Rick. I think V-Carb have a part to play with that because that's strategy that strategy just screams to me we've got no hope this is like they are praying for a miracle from lap one they love a rogue strategy yeah love a rogue strategy they tried it and it didn't work the fans gave him a five as well Franco Colapinto started eighth finished eighth it's going to be a four out of ten for Franco Colopinto because Logan Sargent would have won the race in that car

It's of course a 10 out of 10. What an unbelievable weekend for Franco Colopinso. I can't believe it's that way around, right? Where we had Monsori jumped in the car. And it was a good weekend for someone that's literally just jumped in an F1 car. But I don't think any of us were going, he is the next big thing. I don't think we still are after Baku because that would be incredibly knee jerk.

But what we are saying is, oh my God. Okay, you can do that around Baku where you out-qualified. your teammate. You're making passes on drivers like Ricardo and Ghazli and driving very confidently, it has to be said, the first Argentinian point scorer for 42 years. And he was close, I think, to Alonzo as well. They were fighting Alonzo, I think, during the race. So, yeah, he didn't look out of sorts at all.

So it is a stone cold 10 out of 10. Yeah, I've also gone for a 10 out of 10 for Franco Colopinto. Fantastic drive. huge thing for him to do around Baku. A very difficult track. Didn't get phased by the little off, you know, that he had. Crashed into the wall. All the Logan Sergeant memes came out.

Oh, what has James Viles done putting him in? And he went, no, you know what? I'm going to out-qualify album. And then I'm going to be on the back of him at the race and score four times Logan sergeant's points telly of his whole career in my second race. so amazing stuff from Colapinto. And yeah, one thing I actually just to mention that I loved after the race was, you know, he wouldn't have been expecting to drive in Formula One this year.

And I like the wholesomeness of how like blessed and how like happy is to be there. And he did a post about like the highlight of his day was getting to like shake hands of Lewis Hamilton after the race after he raced him. Because of course, you know, his young driver, I've watched Hamilton winning championships and stuff. That was a really cool moment to see. Oh, no, he's such a cutie, isn't he? He's like, you know, when the Twitch Quartet all entered Formula One,

they were all very starry-eyed, weren't they, as well? It's great to see. And the fans, of course, gave him a 10 out of 10. Alex Albon started 9th, but of course had a fan stuck in his car during qualifying, which we will just pop in there as well, and finished 7th. I've gone for a nine out of ten for Alex Albin

I think it was a fantastic drive it's almost a 10 could he have beaten Alonzo on the road maybe the Williams did look very good but of course he did get outqualified by his very inexperienced teammate so maybe downgrades him a little bit but it was a very very good drive for Albin has to be said

and he was running third at one point of course he hadn't pitted, but it was very bizarre to see a Williams battling a McLaren and a Red Bull at one point, which was quite fun. But yeah, another solid job for Albon. It's a nine out of ten for me as well. Of course, Franco Colopinto is getting a bit of an extra boost because he's literally just joined Formula One. But Alex still had a great weekend. As you mentioned, Tommy, I think qualifying is obviously a small, tiny little blip in an otherwise amazing weekend. for William scoring 10 points collectively.

Albon had a great stint because they were quite close, I think, in that first stint, Albon and Colopinter, of course, on different tire strategies. But I think Alex then really had a really strong second stint and cleared away from his inexperienced teammate. But yeah, it's a nine out of ten that still were a fantastic job. And the fans gave Alex a nine as well. Esteban Ocon, started from the pit lane, finished 15th.

Oh my goodness Alpine Alpine Ocon I mean what has gone Where is Ocon right now What has happened to Esteban Ocon Oh it's going to be

4 out of 10 For Esteban Ocon A weekend to forget Obviously started in the pit lane I don't think we ever really saw him To be honest with you He had hardly any pace I think he had a very similar strategy

Actually to Daniel Ricardo Where he literally was just out there the entire race and his team also forgot about him. But yes, I mean, he was only ahead of Bottas, so I'm giving him a four. I've gone for a five out of ten for Espanocon. Yeah, Alpine is looking woeful, started like I say, from the pit lane. Didn't really do a lot, but I think the performance of that car is not really there at the moment. strange that they've really fallen back after a very weird spell where they just kind of got a bit good again and were scoring points

and then all of a sudden they've kind of almost gone right back to where they were at the start of the season. So not the best weekend for Ocon but he's driving a literal tractor. A tractor that occasionally just one race is like, oh, I'm not a tractor anymore. And then go straight back to being a tractor again for the next however many. The fans gave Ocon a five as well. Pierre Gasly started 18th. It was disqualified from Quali for exceeding permitted fuel flow rate and finished 12th. I have gone for a 7 out of 10 for Pierre Gasly.

I think this is a case of where I almost nearly wanted to give him an 8. I think this is very much a case of one of those drives where... Here we go. Get the bingo card out. Yeah, might be one of the best drives he's ever done in his career. There it is. Which he even said, he himself said, you know, it was one of the best races of the season for him.

But when no one retires from races anymore, or you can hope for, is, well, out the points because everyone's, most people are finishing races now and did a good job to make his way up, really did just annihilate Ockon all weekend, qualifying and the race. And he made that crazy strategy actually doing quite a good job on what was a absolutely bizarre and crazy strategy.

He made it work. He did. He was also a driver that went 50 laps on the hards. And it was very much a rolling of the dice. I am going to go for an 8 out of 10 for Pierre Gazzley. I'm going to do it. I'm going to give him an 8. You know what?

I'm feeling frisky. feeling good. It's one of those that it does feel like it's under the radar because he's in a dustbin. But to finish 12th, after starting from the back, and the fact that he said it's one of his best races, that gives us good indication because I don't think anybody's watched the entire on board of Pierre Gazile's race from Baku. You look like you're about to say something, Tommy?

Yeah. I'm also tempted to change mine to an 8 because I've just seen that he was absolutely miles out of our common, even further than I thought, like well over 30 seconds clear. Yeah, 40 seconds actually before the crash came. 8 out of 10, sorry, editor. Wow, brilliant. Halfway through my chatting and you're like, boom,

there goes Tommy's face with an 8. But yeah, we're going to go with an 8 for Pierre Casley. Great drive. I mean, no points. You get an 8 out of 10 in the driver ratings, which is, of course, what Formula 1 drivers all aspire to get is a high grade in this non-controversial series. So, yeah, 8 out of 10 from me,

the fans gave them five. Does anybody watch races anymore? Hmm? We get roasted for our ratings when actually. Actually. It's everybody else that's not watching the races. That's very much kind of... What did Galsley do?

Oh, I don't really know. Five. Five. Yeah, exactly. Let me get to my spicy opinions and just give everyone a five that's in the midfield. Speaking of spicy opinions, let's go to Lance Stroll. Started 13th, didn't finish. So two out of ten for Lance Stroll from me.

Poor qualifying, yeats into the side of Sonoda. It's not the worst ever move, but it's a desperate move from Lance. Yuki Sinoda has absolutely no reason to give him space on the inside. Maybe had he seen in the mirrors that that was Lance Stroll having a little look at the inside, he would go back in time and perhaps not hit the apex because he knows what's going to happen. but that's not on Yuki at all. That's 100% Lance Stroll's fault. It's kind of like an F2 move.

That's exactly what Antonelli did in the sprint where he lost a couple of positions and then dive bombed in that exact spot but hit the apex. There was a car that didn't hit the apex. It's yeah, it's just a silly move to make on lap one and it ruined his race, gave him a puncture and then he DNFed for brake issues anyway, so two.

I've gone for a one. for Lance Stroll. Okay. It is... Yeah. Which is how many laps he went into the race without doing something stupid. Not even that. Yeah, got a puncture straight away for his move on Sonoda, which was just a daft thing to do.

But he was also a second slower than Alonzoan qualifying, which is like how you're second slower in the same car. yeah his he really had a stinker of a weekend and it's after he was kind of being like a bit anonymous in a good way where he was there or thereabouts for the loneso and he just he just seems to have these weekends every like four or five races more than a lot of other drivers do where he's just absolutely awful so yeah not good for stroll not good at all i've gone for a Not I. The fans. We know that I've gone for a two.

The fans have also gone for a two out of ten for Lance Strong. Fernando Alonso started seventh, finished. Sixth. I have gone for a nine out of ten for Fernando Alonso, because of course I have. Here we go. Yeah, the best driver of all time. Come on.

Start the spiel. Yeah, yeah. The loneliest race ever. But he did get everything he could out of. that car put a second on Lance Roll in qualifying got the maximum we'll never know how good that Aston Martin is because straws in the other car but the Williams was Williams the better package I don't know but for Alonzo he's just basically delivered what he can is never going to be able to compete with Formula A I mean of course the Williams is the

better package Tommy because Fernando Alonzo is the greatest of all time so therefore he is obviously hampered by his car. I thought that's what you would have teed up there, mate, that surely not Frank had Colopinto is better than Fernando Alonzo at this stage. Well, Alonzo was just, yeah, did much more of an Alonzo kind of race

where maximised the race finish, maximised where he finished in qualifying, and it was just, yeah, that's why it's a night. Just beautiful. Just beautiful. What a tear to your eye. I've gone for a nine out of ten as well for Fernando Alonzo

because it was a brilliant a brilliant performance from Fernando a quiet one, kept the Williams at bay and finished top of Formula B. Tick, tick, tick. Lovely stuff. Thank you very much.

Nine out of ten from me. The fans gave him an eight. Disgusting. What more can this man do? Oscar Piestri started second, finished first. It's a ten out of ten for Oscar Piastri.

I thought, I thought the race was Charlotte Clare's. Okay, I did. Especially in that first stint, I even said, and I regret it, that it was too easy at one point when it was five and a half seconds clear. But Oscar Piastri, he's, he's entered the building, okay? He's not just, he's not this apprentice anymore. He wins races, and he has the, there's so many things you can commend him for in this weekend.

even just all of the blah blah blah blah blah blah blah that happened before the weekend of how are you going to help lando yes mcclaren's going to favour lando blah blah blah blah blah blah he performed in qualifying stuck it on the front row of the grid he then actually went against his engineer's wishes in the second stint who told him to sort of bed the tires in a bit more and not cook them like the mediums in the first stint and just went you know what nah i see the opportunity to pass charlerc and i did and that's exactly what he did which is it was a brilliant move. Charlotte Claire was in awe of it in the cool down room. I was like, chill out, mate, come on, let's not get in awe of the other drivers. Let's think about ourselves here. But it was a brilliant move from Oscar there. And then to be able to hold on to a

Grand Prix victory that may even felt like it was his first one because of the whole debacle in Hungary. But to have the sheer minerals to hold off Charle-Claire for that many laps is ridiculous. And not just Charlotte-Clau. Perez was there as well. It was

not an easy race to win in the slightest. And Oscar did it. He drove away at the end. It was just perfect. And he's going to be a force to be reckoned with if he keeps this up. It's good to hear the word minerals again. I feel like it's been too long. Yeah, I thought I'd bring that one out now.

I saw a little smirk from you as well. So, you know, you're welcome. Of course, there's a 10 out of 10 for Oscar Piastri. It would be an 11 out of 10 if that was such a thing, because it was the perfect drive. I particularly love it when a driver ignores their engineer and goes for it, and it, like, is successful because you want to see the best drivers, use their driver instinct and know, this is my time to do it.

I'm the one driving the car, I'm going to do it, and that's exactly what I did. I seem to call Max at Silverstone. That's the one that I was literally sticks in my mind as well when they said, like, this is my only chart. When Mercedes were dominating, he came on the radio and he was like, this is the only chance I might get all year to the race, Mercedes absolutely jog on. I'm going to battle them and he won the race.

So that's the kind of thing I love seeing racing drivers do. And Oscar did that. Said everything in the podcast already about how good his drive was, absolutely superb. Saved his tires as well, which is the thing that's always kind of hurt him. He was the one driving away at the end. and yeah, what a unbelievable drive.

Indeed it was. The fans, of course, also gave him a 10 out of 10. Lando Norris started 15th, finished fourth. I've gone for an 8 out of 10 for Lando Norris. Why do I feel like Lando's great is always the most difficult one to grade? Oh yeah, and you best believe there's going to be comments already. How could you possibly give him an hour? he got knocked out in Q1, he should be given a four,

and then there'll be other people going, how do you not give him a 10? He got knocked out because there was a yellow flag. It depends how you see the situation, doesn't it? Yeah, so the way I've seen the situation is it was a fair bit of his fault to have the problem, which is why I can't give him a 9 or a 10 for his comeback. There is an element of bad luck, but you do wonder why, he's like completely aborted his lap when he must know i've you know i'm not going to get through um

so from that side uh maybe that's you know why i've not because his because his comeback was was brilliant um to still gain on max estappen uh after the race sorry the qualifying that he had and it looking really bad for him um is a is a great job and it is what he needed to do like he needed a really um strong finish to keep the pressure on max. Obviously, would have loved to have got more on him when his teammates won the race, but when you're starting that far back, could have easily knocked a front wing off in the pack or whatever, but just drove a very mature and strong race. And also credit to him as well for helping Oscar when he did with the kind of backing up of Perez,

because that was incredibly, incredibly close. And I don't think it would have, Oscar arguably might not have even won the race without Lando doing that. So a solid job from Lando this weekend. I've also gone for an 8 out of 10 for Lando. I think it sums it up perfectly, really. I've already stated my opinion after qualifying.

I felt as though, yes, there was a yellow flag and he did lift a little bit. But there was a lot of confusion. And ultimately there are plenty of examples where drivers have been able to finish their laps, even with the yellow flag in the sector. So we've already covered all of that sort of stuff. But in terms of the race, he was brilliant. As you say, he could have been involved in all the kinds of carnage.

He was involved, I think, in a four-car battle into term one in the first lap or two. And it was great to see him come through the field. He showed really good pace throughout the Grand Prix. would have definitely been fighting for the win had he actually qualified somewhere in the sort of top five. But alas, that's if sputs and maybes, we have to judge him on what he did. And he drove brilliantly. He caught Max for Snap and passed him despite starting all the way back there. So, yeah, he can be very happy with that.

He's closed the gap to Max despite all of this, which is not something I think any of us expected. Apart from Ted Kravitz, who, of course, put a bet on all. not put a bet on before the race if anyone saw that. So yeah, an 8 out of 10 for me for Lando. The fans gave him a 9. And big shout to Lando for the team orders with Piastri because he didn't even question it. He just did it.

And that, in my opinion, won Oscar the race. And actually, come to think of it, because he did that, Charlotte-Cla, didn't win the race. Two out of 10 for Lando Norris, thank you. The fans gave Lando a 9. sure that will be full of debate Carlos Sines started third did not finish

Speaking of debate Oh no Okay so I feel like I think it's a one or a ten Because you have to have a very extreme opinion on it Oh yes someone has to be at full to all times And it can't just be a racing instant And an unlucky outcome

I have gone for an eight out of ten for Carlos Sines I think he drove a brilliant race Especially towards the end He brought himself in to the technically fight for the win. Did we ever think he was going to win? Not really. We could see how difficult it was to overtake at times.

But up until the moment, I think Carlos would have been very happy, could have been on the podium, was ahead of Perez briefly. And then we get to the incident. We've spoken about it in the podcast. I still very much feel as though it was a racing incident. Two cars coming together slightly.

Minor, minor inputs. The stewards deemed it a racing incident. I still completely agree with that. So I'm not going to downgrade signs nor Perez for their rating and involvement in the crash because of that. So yes, it's eight out of ten for Carlos Sites. I've also gone for eight out of ten for Carlos Sites. Yes, this could have easily finished that race second. And then it would have been, you know, maybe looking at a nine out of ten or something.

But yeah, it was, you know, my opinion hasn't changed on the incident despite seeing all sorts of crazy takes on Twitter, including someone that loaded up the F1 game and showed the racing line of Carlos signs. Which was actually incredible. I saw this. But look where the racing line is on the game. Like someone hasn't just drawn that out. And also like. I mean, this is the thing. I'm not, I'm not saying, by saying a racing incident,

I'm saying that neither was fully at fault, but I'm also saying both of them were 50-50 to blame because they both could have got out of it, but they didn't. It was a game of chicken, basically, and they both lost because neither backed out because they're racing drivers, and they want to win. So that's just racing. But yeah, Carlos' drive looked not really anywhere compared to Shal and then just came in at the end and did a really good job.

He's the one that saved his tyres, was catching up that pack as Piazri was holding them up. And he's the one, you know, without the crash could have benefited and finished ahead of Shal. But yeah, I'm not going to do like a massive downgrade because I don't think it was, you know, You know, it's not like a... Blanche Stroll or, you know, where he's, like, made a massive error and he's crashed, and it's clearly his fault. I still do not believe that either are at fault. So that's well gone for an eight.

And the fans gave Carlos an eight as well. Charlotte Clare! Started first, finish, second. I've gone for a nine after ten for Charlotte Clare. I think the crash in a weird way kind of saved his bacon, because it could have easily been fourth. then maybe he is getting an eight or something because he absolutely cooked his tires. Looking back, I don't think it's one of those drives where I can say,

I've given Sherlock Claire a 10 before even when he started on pole and lost the lead, but I can't do that this time because I think his defense of the move wasn't strong enough. And if he'd stayed ahead, then maybe he could have held on if Piastri hadn't made that move. and I think his defence for it. I believe he himself kind of, was he reflective on that as well that the defence of his move? Yes, he said that there was two factors as to why

they didn't win the race. One was tyre management on the outlap from the pits. They expected for it to take a long time for everyone to warm up their tyres, which was the case for Ferrari, but not for McLaren. And then also the fact that he didn't fight Oscar harder when he over to it. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I think that's why for me, like,

could have done more from that side, but it's still a very good drive from him in that Ferrari, you know, finishing P2, putting it on pole as he does in Baku. And that's four Baku Poles without a victory. Fun. I've gone for a 9 out of 10 as well for Sharle. I think it was a brilliant weekend from him. He is a master around here, especially over one lap. And Yeah, I think that this is probably one of, well, when he, yeah, this is the first one of those four backos where he's actually had it in his hands to win the Grand Prix, in my opinion. Obviously, one of them, he was involved in a fight with Vastappen, but his car broke down. The other two, no chance. He just stuck it on pole because he's a worldly.

But this one, yeah, I was left feeling as though he could have won that race. And that's the difference between a nine and a ten for me. It is still a brilliant performance. He was still fighting for the win. He put himself in that position by getting pole position, but it's just a little bit off the top, sadly. But he still can be very proud of his performance. That's a lot of points.

And closing in on Vastappen in the Drivers World Championship, the dream is, I was going to say, alive. It's kind of, it's somewhere in my head. Maybe one day I will actually dream it. Let's see. The fans gave Shal a nine as well. George Russell, otherwise known as the Hoover of Places. Race start fifth, finished third.

I've gone for an eight out of ten for George Russell. I think it was a pretty strong drive from George. He, of course, did hoover up two positions at the end. But when you look at how much his teammate was also struggling in the same car, same car and all the slight set up differences and all this sort of stuff that was spoken about this weekend. But from George's perspective, he was there. he had a strong ending to the race as well and really brought himself into play and I don't think I can give him yeah any higher any lower I think eight is just right I agree I've gone for

an eight out of turn for George Russell as well um it was a good drive I would get onto his teammate but his you know his teammate didn't seem uh all confident uh this weekend don't think the Mercedes was quite there so to get a podium even if it is from being quite fortunate, it's still a very good drive even if he had just finished fifth on the road. So a very good job from George. The fans gave George an eight. Lewis Hamilton started from the pit lane, finished ninth.

I've gone for a five out of ten for Lewis Hamilton. I think it was unfortunately for him like, not one of, not a great drive for him has to be said, you know, from being being breached or. You can say that he started last and that wasn't through any fault of his own, of course, for, you know, modifying the car. But the gap with Formula A now, we always see those cars breeze through the pack and they never, you know, in a full. 50 odd lap race or whatever, you should be able to get past the cars like Williams's and Alonzo with the Aston-Martin

with the car that has got underneath him. And he didn't do that today. His move where he mugged, Holkenberg at the end was a nice one. But yeah, almost very close to not even scoring points at all if he hadn't made that move on on Holkenberg

and there'd been the crash at the end. So yeah, really tough, tough race for Lewis Hamilton. It was tough and I've gone from five as well for Hamilton. I think it was certainly a weekend to forget on the back foot. Don't get me wrong because of the pit lane start. But you point it out beautifully to Tommy that you can't be being beaten by Formula B

and he was, he finished, where he was around 40-odd seconds behind Russell, I think, before the VSE came out. And yes, I know that he's stuck in traffic and all this sort of stuff. But I still think it was a poor weekend. There was a lot of managing going on. We could hear it on the team radio. And how do we judge how much management and all this sort of stuff?

It's hard to tell. And the setups. He was a test subject and all this kind of stuff that you hear. Experimental, like we heard a few years ago. Do you remember when they first wheeled out that car? Yeah. But we have to judge him. on the performance and he got beaten by both Williams.

So it's a five out of ten from me. And it's a five from the fans as well. Sergio Perez started fourth, did not finish. As I said with Carlos Sines, I'm not changing. What I believe was an incredibly strong race from Perez. It's a nine out of ten for Checo. It was great to see him have something about him this weekend. I was happy to see it.

He was in the mix for the win for the entirety of that last stint. He drove brilliantly well. He found the sweet spot with the setup. His teammate didn't. And I'm gutted for him. I'm really gutted that it didn't work out. You might have your opinion on whether it was signs or Perez's fault. Whatever.

I still judge it as a racing incident. Really unlucky. They could have easily wheel banged and carried on down the straight. But instead it was like some weird F1 game glitch where they both just went straight into the wall. So it's a big shame, but I'm not downgrading Perez from what was a very, very good weekend. I have gone for an eight out of ten for Sergio Perez. It was such a shame that the crash ended his performance because the way he was driving and the way his teammate was driving, you'd have thought they'd have swapped cars because, you know, he was way far clear of Max.

He'd outqualified Max as well. and he's driving a brilliant race he was the one that was in that leading battle when his teammate wasn't which is just unheard of nowadays so yeah it was a really good drive from Perez I don't blame him

well I blame him exactly the same as I do with science yes he could have backed out but it's just a racing incident like we said many times in my opinion the only thing I would criticize him on and maybe is a bit of hindsight is watching back his move on char leclair he probably could have made that

whole situation a lot easier for himself um you know he went down the inside and then sort of lost momentum which got him mugged by science in the first place uh lecler had so little traction you wonder if uh him just kind of going to the outside and then switching back he would have got such a better run out of that corner because you could literally see uh char lecler laying rubber down with how much his ties were cooked. He went around the outside, by the way Perez did, not the inside. Sorry, around the outside, but what I mean is when he was on the outside, rather than him, like, trying to carry around,

he could have, like, switched back and got better traction out, in my opinion. Yeah, it's a shame because if he'd made that move clean, you know, he's finishing the race in P2, and it's an unbelievable drive. So I will say on that, because I am watching it back right now, Perez couldn't have switched back at all because it was actually Charles, he, Charles came back down the inside with quite a late breaking move. So there was no real way that Perez could have then switched back.

I mean, if you're talking about the move as a whole. As a whole, yeah, yeah. But it's hard to, it's hard to really have a go at him for going for a move that Charles was defending the inside. But either all, you couldn't see anything anyway because the sun was on them. But yeah, Sergio Perez, still a great performance. at the fans gave him an eight. Max Verstappen, started sixth,

finished fifth. I have gone for a six ounce of ten for Max Verstappen. Can you start crying as well? Just what, say, because you'd enjoy that. Yes, what a... We've seen Max get bad grades before because he's crashed into someone or done a bit of silly,

but I don't think since... I genuinely can't even remember a race in so long where he's just like not fast and he's so much slower than his teammate and he's struggled this much because even the race is where we've down Great Inmore or he's had a bad race or something's gone wrong. He's been quick but he's crashed out or done something silly or still been way ahead of Perez but this week it was role reversal you know he was so slow without the crash at the end he's finishing seventh on the road. And fifth kind of flatters him really.

But the reason I can't give him any worse is because fifth is still actually a pretty good result for where, one, the car is and two in his World Championship to finish just behind Lando on the road despite the car difference. But yeah, really out of sorts performance from Max. just insane and I think if we get to Singapore and it has the same thing I'm going to be incredibly worried about the championship despite him still having that somehow having a a 59 point lead it's quite mad really when he's driving a car around and seemingly unable to do anything with it and finishing races constantly in like fifth and sixth it's funny you say that

Max finished fifth where he's actually, he was on his way to seventh before the crash, which is, you know, he was at the bottom of Formula A with obviously Hamilton, um, out of sorts, but it's, I did say, yeah, yeah, before the crash, you would have. Yeah, no, that's what I mean. But like, he's mad to think that he was actually going to finish on pure speed seventh place, which is ridiculous. I've gone for a six out of ten as well for Max. Um, completely off-color weekend.

You don't ever see him not get on top of the setup and Perez clearly just did a better job on, on that side of the garage. And he said after the race that the car was jumping around a lot in all the load speed corners. His wheels were coming off the ground. And he was overheating the tires more because he was sliding a lot more.

And just another weekend where Max looked nowhere in comparison to actually winning the race, which is, how are we here? I don't get it. I don't get it. The fans gave Max a six as well. All right.

Finally, who is our. P1, it's got to be Franco Colopinto, which we are going to spell correctly, unlike Formula One themselves, that couldn't Photoshop Logan Sargent's body correctly. Franco, for me, for sure, I think he's the only one I gave a 10.

Oh, no, apart from Oscar. But Franco, it's a great performance, and it would be Piastri, but he beat Charlotte-Claire, so no. I loved Franco Colopinto's drive, but I will go for Piastri just because I think the way he's shouldn't, it's not even a drive for me where the McLaren was like, you know, far and away the best car and he's just driven away from the field.

You know, he took that into his own hands and won the race himself. And yeah, yeah, just deserves all the plaudits he's getting for that drive and how he's driving at the moment. Congratulations to Oscar, winning literally everything. and that is it we are done Tommy driver ratings locked in once again how you feeling and what are your final thoughts final thoughts final thoughts are how we've been doing this for a very long time how do you not see this coming well I don't plan it I just like my brain I know I can tell yeah um my final thoughts are I never I hope I never have to give match for stuff and a six again.

Come on. About five? God. The way Singapore's next is very concerning. I reckon Red Bull were in Formula B in Singapore. Oh, well, we are doing predictions in a bit. Yeah, yeah, here we go. Right, that is it.

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