P1 with Matt and Tommy - Brazil GP Race Review

Episode Date: November 3, 2024

In one of the most chaotic Brazilian GPs we’ll ever see, the terrible weather served up dramatic moment after dramatic moment - and one of “the greatest drives in F1 history.” Join us for our End of Season tour across the UK this December! Get your tickets here!Sign up to our Patreon here! You'll get access to bonus episodes, our classic race podcast series, every P1 episode ad-free, early access to live tickets and merch, and access to our Discord server where you can chat with other F1 fans!Follow us on socials! You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Twitch, YouTube and TikTok. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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You can meet new F1 fans. You just have a great time. And what a way to end the year. Okay, so get your tickets now. Link will be in the description and we'll see you very soon. Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy, Brazilian Grand Prix edition. We didn't even get around to doing a qualifying roundup,

which would have been a podcast in itself, a juicy, beefy one. And then of course we had Super Sunday. Oh my God. I mean, what have we just? witnessed Tom Bellingham. I think we've just witnessed maybe the most things happening on a single Sunday

of Grand Prix racing because thingiest F1 Grand Prix ever. The thingiest. There'll be debates whether it is you know, plenty of everyone's got a different opinion of what makes a great race but I don't think you can deny that I don't think there's been more

kind of changes and moments and crashes and title changes and crazy things happening all in one day because we had a banger of a qualifying and then a banger of a race, which was also an epic race as well that went on for absolutely ages. Oh my word, interlagos never fails, does it? It certainly does.

And I think we just have to start with a question. N33 underscore Emma. Best race of the season? This is a difficult one, right? Because most chaotic race of the season, yes, without a shadow of a doubt. I feel genuinely like I've aged three years watching that race in a good way, but still, stress. And I'm quite glad the last 20 laps was actually quite calm, so I could just sort of get back

to normal for a little bit. But most chaotic race of the season, yes. Was it the best race of the season? It was the most unpredictable race, perhaps. I don't know about best. And now it depends how you rate best, because if chaos is what you love. love and Ocon leading, you might well choose Brazil. But we've had, we've been spoiled with such amazing races this year. I'm not sure I can crown this the best. I think the fact that it's

not a flat out decision that that's the best race of the year, just shows what an amazing season we've had. I think that, yeah, it all comes down to what you personally enjoy from a good race because I think this season has delivered so much in terms of, you know, this season has delivered drama, championship drama, kind of unexpectedness, if that's a word, battles for the win going right to the end, which we've seen quite a few of actually this year, different winners, crazy strategies. And this one, I think, was just your classic kind of chaos race. This was like your Germany 2019 race

where just carnage, so many incidents, so many people going off, kept you guessing all the time. And we get a lot of stick for our predictions sometimes, that little top five graphic that we post where people go, what are you on?

And imagine if one of us had put Vastappan and two Alpines as the top three people would have gone, what an earth are you talking about? So unpredictable, so good. Like what an unbelievable race? It really was. And I think personally for me, how I grade Grand Prix is more around. I mean, I enjoy battles for the lead, side by side action, that sort of chaos.

Don't get me wrong. This was an incredible Grand Prix weekend. And I think over the course of the entire weekend, it's probably the most entertaining in a lot of ways. But yeah, it's right up there. It's just very hard to really give a standout winner across this season. Tommy, why don't you go into your moment? most memorable moment, shall we? And I wonder what it might be. Could it be Max Verstappen

going from 17th to first and winning the race? Yes, it was. You tell me, mate. It was your memorable moment. Of course it was. Yeah, what an unbelievable drive from Verstappen. It's been a fair old while since he's won a race and what a race for him to win. He's been on a bit of a wind drought. It has to be said 10 races is a long time for him even before he'd been dominating in Formula One, who still was picking up the odd wins in the Mercedes era, of course, as well. And I think you saw with the celebrations just how much it meant to him. There's obviously huge championship implications as well as him just winning again. Because just the drama of it almost it's not the same as Brazil 2012,

if people have been around enough to remember that one in terms of a championship battle between Lonzo and Vettor, and it kept switching every single moment. And I think that's one of the biggest takeaways from this race for me, that after qualifying, I was looking at lots of forecasts and things and saying that basically if they finish where they start, the gap would be down to 19 points, and I'm thinking that not only is it very much championship on, but I'd be very concerned it's championship over for Max

because it was such a big pressure moment. So the fact that he came through from 17th to win and did it in such an incredible way as well with some unbelievable driving, I know he's good in the wet, but even that... Good. Well, he's incredible. He's the best driver.

He's the best driver in the wet, hands down. in my opinion is the best driver on the grid but I know there's contentious but I think that briefed. Obviously not discounting Charlotte Clare, I get that yeah, because you don't usually put him in that yeah, yeah, yeah. But just what a drive,

like what a drive, sensational. Yes, yes. I thought that I was going to be particularly not smug because it's not my driver taking on your driver for the World Championship, but I thought that perhaps we might see some Tom Bellingham misery on this podcast. But alas, we did not because Max Verstappen. This is the thing, right? We're on the watch along. Matt P.1, Tommy, if you don't follow us.

I think maybe you're kind of a glass, half-empty kind of bloke. You know, you're fun. You're sort of doubting it. And I'm going, bro, you're about to whip out a 99-rated Trump card here of Max for Stappan in the wet. How can you not think that he is going to come through? And he did. The way that he negotiated that race was unbelievable from lap one, really. He even was one of the drivers to note that the aborted start thing was wrong. And he was sat on the grid awaiting instructions and then cars started, obviously, peeling away.

But, you know, lap one, he gained, I think it was five positions. And then just from there on, and even when he got stuck, he got stuck behind Lecler and Sonoda and someone else, Russell, was it maybe at that point? I can't remember. No, it wasn't Russell. Sorry, Russell's on front. Ockon. He got stuck there, but he maintained calm, calmness about himself, didn't go for anything stupid. He'd noted that sort of turn one dive bomb, kind of, kind of a dive bomb, quite late on the brakes. But he'd spotted that already and he'd almost perfected it immediately from that first move. And he just kept replicating that. do wonder some drivers at piastri how um the doors were left quite wide open uh considering your teammates in a title fight with this man but alas he did not make that too difficult but oscar was lacking quite a bit of pace just in general uh today but then yeah even after that made the right call to stay out we'll get onto that and then at the end of course beats ocon down to down towards turn one after the rolling start and then just fast as lap fast as lap fast as that fast as that fast as that fast as that fastest, that fastest,

that. 17 of them. Not only did he start 17th and finish first, he delivered 17 fastest laps over the course of the race. Question from P1, Patreon member, Captain OBS 34020. Is this drive from Max,

one of the greatest performances from a driver in F1 history? Well, this has only happened five times in the history of Formula One, a driver starting from 17th or low, winning the race. So statistically, yes, it is one of the greatest performances from a driver in F1 history. And people will say, and I've already seen what Lando said after the race, which I'm sure

will be shared across the entire universe around sort of alluding to the fact that Max got lucky with the safety car. Sorry, yeah, the safety car and then the red flag coming out and then being able to change tires. And look, it's slightly fortunate, of course, to get the, to. get the red flag to come out, but I would also say that was a decision and a rolling of the dice that that group of cars was able to do. You're in a bit more of a difficult, tricky water, not trying to do a pun, if you're the front too, because you are leading the race and

if you stay out and then everybody else behind pits for wets and then you get caught, you look like the idiot there. So it's, everything went right for Max. I would not call any of it lucky, apart from obviously being able to change tyres, but even then, there were so many factors that could have gone wrong, one snatch of the break, anything like that,

the absolute rainstorm that came down, you didn't see Max put out of foot once. There was no mistakes there. We saw mistakes throughout the field. We had crashes, but Max didn't as far as I saw. Yeah, exactly. I mean,

it's absolutely one of the best drives we've ever seen in the history of Formula One. you can't dispute it. I know there's recency bias in Formula One, but I think there's also recency hate. Is that a word? I don't know. Recency hate.

Do you know what I mean in terms of like people never respect something until it's kind of later down the line, you know, people getting nostalgic about moments from the past. I think when we're living in it, of course, as Formula One fans, we want variety, we want different winners. We don't like dominance. We don't like dominance. We don't like,

success really has to be said it seems in Formula One so there will be people that are trying to will try and shut down this drive but it's the same odd boring sort of oh it's just lucky that we got when Hamilton was dominating you know Turkey 2020 these great drives that Hamilton did Hockenheim 2018 you heard all the same things for that and it's incredible how all these unbelievable drivers always get so lucky, isn't it? The guy, the guy started, the guy started 17th and won by 20 seconds. After about 40 safety cars, a red flag. Exactly.

You know, what more could he have done really? Yes, he did get somewhat fortunate, but he, with the red flag, but he put himself there by his unbelievable pace at the start. You thought, he's not the only ones who got fortunate as well. there were other drivers that also got fortunate with that red flag and if you and you look at the race as well no DRS it's so many people were stuck behind people

the whole race and struggling to pass the Stappan's move on Ocon completely caught him by surprise I don't think he thought it's going to happen he could have easily just stayed in second and gone well this is going to be great for my world championship brilliant move on Ocon his start was sensational you know the 17 fastest laps was him just showing off at the end really.

It will absolutely go down. And I don't think people will really appreciate it until, you know, maybe he's retired and we look back on his career. But it is going to be one of those like Utturkey 2020, like Schumacher in Spain 96, that will get played again and again and again as like the greatest Formula One drives ever, like no doubt. Wow. Tommy really went full fanboy there.

It's crazy. But I do agree. But the truth. Yeah. Spitting facts. Next question, HB underscore Bangtan for Life. How did Max overtake seven cars on the first lap? I think it was five.

I don't want to disrespect Max here, but of course, Stroll decided to just put himself in the gravel to end his race before it even begun. And then Albon did start. So there were a couple there that he would have gained. So it was a pathetic start, really. So it was only five, which is nothing really in treacherous conditions. But Max just knows where to where to place.

his car and we saw the exact same thing that, what was it, 2016? 2016, we went around the outside of Nico Rosberg. He did exactly the same thing to two and then shaped up the third car by the time he went down towards term four. Like that man, I know that we don't have like corners that are specifically great for drivers, but that corner, Max Verstappen in the wet, is like no other. The fact that he just, I kind of, I think naturally he was sort of drifting that way. anyway, just because of how the racing had unfolded.

But I'm sure in his head, he's going, I want to be on the outside around that corner as we head down the straight. And that's exactly where he placed his car. And he took huge advantage from that. And every moment, every lap, although, to be fair, we had red flags and stuff. But at that point, he knows that every position is really crucial when it's wet weather and you don't have DRS. So yeah, it's just, it was such an incredible first lap.

When we first looked at it, I thought, oh, that's Perez. No, it's not. It's not Paris. Yeah, we said that on the watch along, didn't we? Because I was like, Max is up here. And you were kind of like, no, Paris started ahead. And then as we kind of zoomed into the cars, it was, oh, no, that is Max. He's already up in what, 10th position or something.

And then what was crazy is while everyone else is seemingly struggling to overtake, he's passing everyone and he's made his way up to essentially the top. there was a Sonoda train but he was kind of on the back of that so quickly and it was insane to think the gap between him and Lando of where they started that I think it was like 15, 16 laps into the race which normally is where you can pull a huge advantage

when someone started 17th and the gap was only about nine seconds between them so Max just yeah he just put his car exactly where he needed to and it is just, it was a master class in wet weather driving. It's what he does and what he's always done. He knows where he knows the lines. He knows where to place his car. And it was just amazing. Yeah. At the end of lap one, Vastappen was up to 11th. Then Perez spun the next lap. And that meant Vastappen was already

into the points when he passed Hamilton for P10, which we thought may have been a bit more of a ding-dong battle than it turned out to be. But Hamilton had a pretty large stinker this weekend. But yeah, then lap 16, I think that's where you're mentioning. He was caught in the train with Sonoda Ocon and LeCler. And yeah, he's already in the fight. At that point, we were noting that sort of nine, ten second gap. And despite being stuck in that Sonoda train, Norris and Russell out in front weren't pulling away. Vestappen had pace on hand.

And it was very clear. As soon as he got into clear air, he made a huge statement to every single one of us. that thought there might be a championship. So let's get into this next question. Here we go. Comes up every single time. We have a red flag. Philip Valjack, is the red flag change of tires fair?

Yes. Because it's Formula One and not everything. Well, look, fair. Formula One is not fair. Okay? Formula One, sometimes you don't get very lucky. But what I will say is that you should be able to change tyres. in the red flag, and I've said this before, I'll say it again.

I don't agree that they can tick off in the dry conditions that they've done their, you know, tire change, their mandatory tire change. I think that's a bit rubbish. But in terms of changing tyres, especially in the wet, yes, it's the same as safety car being flown or double-waved yellow in qualifying. You can't get to your lap. The moments of misfortune happen. but yes, it is fair because it has to be in there.

Drivers have to be able to change tyres under a red flag in case they've run over some debris. It's a safety feature of the rules. Exactly. You win some, you lose some like that famous quote from Max after Landos win. And you know, got asked the question about, you know, what did you say?

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle or something. Which is funny that Max was crediting Lando there, but Lando's kind of come out with a slightly suspect quote that's sort of discrediting Max a little bit for being fortunate. But I think at the end of the day, you win some, you lose some. Max O'Svastappen himself got absolutely screwed over by a red flag moments earlier in the day in qualifying. Just to cover that one off, because I know we said about qualification. qualifying. He was never going to, he was out already. I don't think that the qualifying, he was, the red flag was only screwed him because he didn't get to do his lap. I don't think there was anything suss about it. Like if he'd have, if they'd have flown the flag straight away, he still would have been out because everyone was crossing the flag within two seconds of

last job hitting the wall, which is just not, not possible. Yeah, we all knew Lance was going to go off, but not not. Yeah, have the red flag ready at all times. But yeah. But yeah, this is Formula One. You win some, you lose some. And drivers get fortunate with safety cars. And what goes around comes around. Like sometimes you get lucky with it.

Sometimes you don't. And over the balance of Formula One, there'll be drivers where, you know, we might have another red flag. Max gets absolutely screwed. Lande benefits massively. Or it's just part of Formula One. and we get this question every single time

because drivers benefit. But drivers benefit from safety cars. They benefit from conditions where they've made a gamble on tyres. That's part of Formula One is a bit of unpredictability and you take gambols and that's the beauty of the sport.

Certainly is. So let's go to a question that maybe finally puts a full stop in the amount of questions we've had of championship back on and championship back off. P1 patron member Lumixion. Championship over?

Yes, the championship is over. I'm sorry, everybody. It is done. It was, and I think we said this on the run-up to this weekend, that there cannot be a swing of points in Max's favour, whether it's two, whether it's 10, whether it's 20. And this was it. There's only 80-odd points left in the championship,

and Max's 62 clear. I believe. So it is over, sadly. Unless Max wheels out a car that breaks down every single session from here on in, I still think maybe he would win the championship. You don't know because Lando's not been able to deliver to the level of which that car has been for most of the season. He's scored some wins. He's had some great performances, but it's not been consistent.

And that was, you know, sadly, he had some mistakes today, which cost him. I think he said fourth was probably the best he could have achieved without the luck. And yeah, he didn't manage to even execute on that fourth place. So it is championship over, but we still have three incredible races, I'm sure, that are coming up in this amazing 2024 season. And the Constructors Championship is incredibly close as well, not just for first place, but that scrappy battle for P6 as well as now on. So plenty of things to still keep an eye out for.

Oh yeah the championship was always It was close and it was nerve-wracking No I mean I was very nervous Like I say I can't believe how much that championship swung in just a single Not even single weekend a single day with qualifying happening in the morning Looking like Lando was even going to go out in in Q1 And we were saying championship over Then Max is the one that they get screwed over by the red flag

Goes out It's going to be a huge point swing in Landau's favour he could put potentially 25 points on max or a few less than that and instead it flips completely the other way and yeah

it's an absolutely huge ask but this you know if you stop watching you're watching the wrong sport because there's so much to look forward to for the rest of the season we're having so many different winners now I mean there's a I want to say

correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I saw a stat that Max Stappen and Lewis Hamilton are like the last two people to get kind of like back-to-back wins, which is crazy because we're having so many different winners this year, and that just shows it's changing every single race. We had Ferrari win last time, McLaren have won, Mercedes of won, there's so much to look forward to, and then you've got the Constructors' Championship as well.

And not forgetting, the fight for sixth in the constructors, which has hotted up nicely. I thought you were also going to say for the fight for P2 in the Drivers' Championship because Lecler closes in on Lando Norris. It's 24 points between the two of them, so one race win.

When you said I thought you were going to say, I thought you were going to say about Bottas and Logan Sergeant then. Oh, that as well, sadly. Loads to look forward to. Have we actually had any confirmation on this supposed potential penalty for all of the,

for all of the front front lot No, I can't see anything yet So I'm sure we'll probably get a live reaction Live reaction during the podcast Whilst we're doing this Their time They are taking their sweet time

It's not like they had any red flags Or safety cards to No Really work on what happened at the start Let's go to my most memorable moment And it has to be Alpine finishing Second and Third

what the flying beep. Like, how have they come into this Scron Prix weekend with five points? And left with what? Wait, Ockon had five points. No, sorry, Ockon had five points. Alpine themselves, I think, had like 14 or something in total. Yeah, not many. But now they've gone from ninth to sixth in the championship.

It's just, it's utterly ridiculous, to be honest. with you. People on Patriot member, MZT says, how good will the Alpine team party be tonight? I think pretty, pretty damn good, to be honest with you. It's such an unexpected result. But they were, they were quick. It's not like they lucked into it. It's not like they, you know, with two laps to go, managed to somehow find themselves at the front. Ocon was leading. Ocon drove away from Max Verstappen in that sort of middle part of the race. And you're wondering if Ocon's going to win. And I think just as we had that next phase to the race where we had the restart.

I think that Max was starting to close once again before we obviously had that pause and then Max got through on the restart. But they finished second and third. They had George Russell and Lando Norris behind, but they couldn't make any inroads in to Alpine in wet weather conditions, which is ridiculous. It's absolutely insane because when you saw what O'Connor, done in qualifying you thought or maybe he'll get a top five and that would be a fantastic result for Alpine but Gassley started 14th sorry 13th and somehow has ended up on the podium with him

unbelievable from Alpin their best result all year has been a ninth place and we've not seen other than the top four cars that have all won races we've not seen anyone else on the podium. So for Alpine to get two cars up there, what a dream scenario. And painful for the likes of Hass and Williams that were looking very quick. And both have gone home with written off cars

and Alpine taking a massive chunk out of their lead. Yeah, it just shows. In these conditions, it's slippery. It's the great leveller, having these sort of wet weather races. and Ghazly and Ockon, they've gone very much sort of by the wayside.

They've been very quiet this year because they've literally been driving a tractor. But you have one of these crazy races that allow for a team like Alpine that have been struggling to get in the mix. And for them to deliver this, just shows that they've got two very talented drivers, but they just have not been able to,

I mean, it's been chaos, hasn't it? Alpine with their throwing away of their engine program and all this sort of stuff. stuff. What a settler that must be for Alpine to actually have some good news to come out of this Grand Prix weekend. And it's, I'm sure they'll go back to Las Vegas and they will finish 14th and 15th. And all will be forgotten from Brazil. But it's just the way this season has gone for them. It's funny you say that because, yeah, I was just looking at the results. And isn't it hilarious that

every time in driver ratings and a lot of the kind of season, we mention how they're there's nothing really to separate Ocon and Gassley. And it's hilarious that, yeah, like they get ninth and tenth and tenths and sometimes they're 15th and 16th. So when one of them gets a podium, it's like, I'll be on the podium as well. No, we will be together all the time. Yeah, I bet Gassley couldn't believe as well. Like, he'd been performing incredibly well over the last few race weekends.

And then he's driving in third thinking, oh, this is great. Wait, Ockon's winning. Ockon's in the lead. No, no, no, no, no. This can't happen. So I'm sure he was a little bit relieved. from a competitive standpoint to see Ocon lose the win to Vestappen. But still, what a performance.

Next question from Luke 1st, X. Does that absolute masterclass performance today from Max just highlight again, how much Lando simply isn't ready to be world champion yet? It's a tough question, but it's one that we have to talk about because this was the moment where the championship was lost in my eyes. obviously because there's not many, it needs a miracle from here on in to have any sort of chance to, to overthrow Max now from the title. It, the quality was touch and go, nearly got knocked out in Q1, managed to end up on pole position. There was things that obviously happened in there that people

were slightly questioning. I don't think there was anything wrong with, as we mentioned, the whole Max Red Flag thing. I think there is a whole topic that we need to go into, Tommy, perhaps this week where we have a specific podcast talking about this whole red flag timing and safety and what they should do moving forward. But from a Lando performance perspective, there were too many mistakes.

He had to be perfect. And it was right from the get-go. He lost the lead going to turn one. And then he was stuck behind George Ruff. Russell. Now, that didn't really affect, well, it might have done, actually, because you might have checked out. Who knows what he would have done had he been out in front? Perhaps he would have checked out. Perhaps he then wouldn't have been undercut, or not undercut, but I guess the drivers that stayed out, perhaps Lando could have stretched his legs and had that

buffer. We don't know. But what we do know, and the facts are he lost the lead, was stuck behind George Russell. It was clearly had more pace than the Merck in that first phase of of the Grand Prix. And then even after that, snatching his brakes, nearly crashing into the back of someone, going into term one, it's not.

And I think Lando will learn a lot from this year and this season. This is first time challenging for a championship. But I don't think even he would hold it against people for saying that he is not as good as Max Verstappen and he's not ready to beat him in a, I wouldn't even say it's been an equal title fight. they've had the edge McLaren. They've had the faster car, but it's not been fast enough

compared to a Max Red Bull package where Max is efficient almost every single weekend, barring Mexico, where he slightly went a little bit off the rails. But apart from that, Max is 97% of the time getting everything out of that car.

Yeah, unfortunately, for Lando, this is a race that will be a tough pill to swallow because he had everything, he couldn't have set it up more beautifully for him to challenge for that title. And there'd been a lot of talk about, oh, he bottled it on Saturday and should have been on poll and all this stuff.

And there's other criticisms, which I think sometimes go, I think are sometimes very unfair, but you're in the spotlight so much more when you're in challenging for a world, title, you have to expect people to be talking about this all the time, constantly asking your questions about Max Sastappen, criticizing every single little thing you do. Even when he won in Singapore, you know, people saying, oh, he's made a mistake and things like that. That is just

the scrutiny you're under when you're going for a world championship. And I think unfairly a lot this year, he's been sort of criticized when he has put up a fight. But unfortunately, that fight has shown that he's not quite there yet. And I think, you know, there's a comment that people always bring up where I think Landoz said something about Hamilton and how easy it was to just win a title if you've got a really good car. There's come back to bite him quite hard because he's kind of, he's now shown and other drivers have shown it.

And, you know, it's not as easy as you think to win a well-tile. You have to be perfect. And you can't afford to have these little mess. mistakes and unfortunately for Lando there were a lot of them particularly in that race which I think is going to make it sting even more you mentioned about him losing the lead which is something that's happened so many times this this year where it starts have been probably his biggest weakness I think this year something that it's really struggled with but then the start procedure is it unlucky then max has happened

you know, saying that he knew the rules and was saying that he straight away was on the radio saying you're not meant to go. He went off, before he went off behind Max, he went off again, didn't he, and lost the position to Russell. It actually got ahead of Russell when he'd put the new tyres on,

gone off again, lost the place, which meant he was caught behind Russell for the rest of the race. And then unfortunately, it kind of summed it up that moment, 40 laps in or whatever it was where you've got Max, making a move down the inside to go for the win and taking the victory essentially where Landau's made a little mistake, gone off, they have to let Piastri let him through again.

It was just a disaster for him. And what I would say is I think he'll learn from it. And I do think that while this year we've learned that he's not World Drivers' Championship material, or at least not World Drivers' Championship material, against a Maxer Staplet, and I think that's the key point here. He can be, because he's incredibly fast, he's got amazing pace. You know, he's beaten Piastri this year,

he's going to beat Piastri this year. There are bits that you can improve in your game. We've seen that with many drivers. Look at Nika Rosberg, that people didn't give him a prayer against Hamilton, and then he kind of put everything in. into one year and I think that's what Lando needs to do himself. He needs to just go away, maybe change his approach a little bit to how he sort of approaches himself with a championship fight and he'll learn from it and I do I don't think this will be the last time that Lando

is fighting for a championship and I think he could still very much win a championship. He's got the speed to do it. It's just very difficult to do against especially when you're racing matters to step in. I completely agree. He's got the foundations to be a world champion. He's fast, and that's not something that you can really teach. The mental side, I think, is something I'd love to see him improve in the seasons to come. I think that will come with experience, because what I've felt when I've seen him be interviewed, especially after tough moments, is like a sprinkling of irritation from Lando. We know that he's very tough on himself, but you almost feel. feel that sort of irritation when he gets asked the same question. And fair enough,

like he's within his own right to say how he feels. But it does feel like that whole sort of the show is getting to him a little bit. And especially when you need to be so laser focused on the task at hand, it can have even a subconscious effect rather than something he's actively worrying about when he's in the car, because I'm sure he's not. But it's just these things, right? To be a world champion is more than just being fast. And we've seen that this year. And Max, I mean, it was quite a big sort of moment that you look at and that image, I think, of Max going down the inside of Ocon, at the same time Lando's making a mistake and you almost see the portrayal of the championship in one sort of picture. So I don't, I think obviously social media is very quick to jump on drivers not being world champion material or being champion material. Lando, there is room to grow, there's room to improve.

I don't think this is Lando's end product. It's the first time ever going for the world title. Let's not forget that many drivers that have gone on to win titles have had difficult moments. What do you think about Hamilton? He binned it in, blam in China and in the pit entry. Vettel. They sit there and go, he's never going to win a world championship. He's bottled it.

Yeah, he's absolutely, yeah, what a finished driver. Exactly. Vettel in 2009 had so many opportunities. He had a great car and he was crashing into people when he was overtaking and had difficult races and stuff. So you can turn it around is what I'd say and he needs to. For sure. I think you can do. People, drivers, us as humans can all improve. It's all about growth, isn't it? Exactly. So, so, it's beautiful. What a way to end that question. Next one, Lollie K-pop Zero. Does this mean the end of McLaren team orders? Yes. Well, no. No, not in the sense of McLaren will still probably have to do team orders in order to maximize

the constructors' points tally for them. But yes, in terms of favouring Lando, unless Oscars on old tires, Lando's on new, swap the positions. But when we're talking about Lando Norris getting extra points in the driver's championship, it's kaput now. Like, come on, let's put it to rest. unless Vastappan in Vegas is 15th. It's a one-two. I guess that's a conversation.

Yeah, it's a one-two for McLaren. That's the only way I could see it where they kind of go. Okay, so then it would be a 25-point swing and it keeps us in it. I think that's the only way because otherwise they're probably going, no, this is not really on now, is it? But it's a very rare thing, I think, that that would happen, especially when we've just seen Maxis-Sapen go from 17th and win the race. It doesn't usually happen the other way.

around with Max. So I think it's the end of McLaren team orders in favouring Lando personally for most, 99% of situations. I'm sure Oscar Pastry is gutted about it. He's like, oh no, anyway, oh no, no, Max. Oh no, you've dived down my inside. Oh, no. Good luck.

Next question, Vortex 2210. What might have been if George and Lando didn't pit? Just wondering. Look, we kind of touched upon it, didn't we, that they are the leaders, they are the ones that have to make a decision. And obviously with the benefit of hindsight, you go, why didn't they, why didn't they stay out? And George himself, he was fuming on the radio and said,

we should have stayed out. So it's a weird situation, isn't it? Because it almost is a game of chicken where all of the drivers are out there. You either box and try and stay out there and think that the race is going to carry on, or everybody stays out there and waits for someone to crash. and then there's a red flag and nobody loses a position, which is obviously doesn't feel great and doesn't feel like that should be the way.

But I mean, the drivers are out there on intermediates as well, let's not forget. These are not the full wets are being used in monsoon conditions, almost. And they're still favouring the green-walled tyre. It's Formula One and Pirelli need to make a bloody tire that works in the wet and it's the blue one, right? So we have steps. But we don't have that. We have dry and intermediate.

And geez, if it is five inches of standing water, we might stick on the wets. Yeah. It's a tough call for the leaders because, of course, they were wearing their tires down. And you're going to, as the rain came down, the funny thing about the whole situation, and this again comes down to the good fortune and just the role of the dice that is Formula One. And that's why Formula One is so exciting when we have these moments. because you don't know what's going to happen. That when they pitted, you kind of thought, oh, the others are staying out, so they're going to gamble.

This is good for Lando. Then it rained a lot. Then you thought the people on the wet tires were actually going to be, and Yuki Sonoda might win the race, joking. But obviously, you know, going to have an amazing run here. But then even when they decided to throw a safety car instead of the red flag, which was very surprising based on how the conditions were, because it looked. How many times have we seen that footage and we know our red flag is coming immediately, which again, you know, we've said that we'll probably have a discussion about this later, about is it suspect or whatever?

Because they seem to be very reluctant to throw the red flag. If they'd have been able to just keep running behind the safety car, if Colapinto hadn't crashed and they were just running behind the safety car, you've got a wet track where Max and everyone's inters are probably a bit screwed, because they're turning into like slick, slick immediates or whatever you call them. And it's advantage them anyway. So it's just fine margins and this is just how Formula One works. It could have so easily been such a great decision for them.

But it wasn't. But it wasn't because it wasn't the right way to go. It was baffling, wasn't it? That whole moment in the race where it's a little bit baffling, right? how the FIA seemed very hesitant to start a session when it's a bit wet out there. But they were dangerous conditions when, especially when George Orlando, they were going about 50 miles an hour down the straight out of the CERS's.

You could see both of them. They were crawling. And there was streams of water coming. And we just sat there going, what are we waiting for here? that has to be a safety car. But they were very hesitant with that until eventually they flew the, or they put out the safety car, didn't they?

And Colopinto managed to crash any way behind it, which has showed just how treacherous the conditions were. But I feel as though at one side, I'm like, okay, let's chill out a little bit here and bring out the safety car. And other points, we're going, come on, let's get the session up and running now. It does feel like their assessment of when to go and when not. to go just felt a bit off. And the drivers know best, you know, George Russell...

Well, can only trust the drivers to some degree? You say that, but if George Russell is shouting red flag, I guess he was he shouting red flag when he was already ahead, I'm not sure, but a lot of the drivers were pleading for a red flag. It looked like a red flag conditions based on the amount of water coming down. We thought that was going to be the case, and it was only a matter of time before, you know, someone going off was the least. surprising thing in the world really in those conditions so it seemed like they were reluctant and this

comes down to how it has been this weekend of like wanting to mix up too much of the championship fight and things because it's a tough call because there's so much on the line and because yeah very surprising that they threw a safety car and not the red flag straight away but there we go I just felt like it needed a VSC earlier. Then you make a decision, then you fly the red flag, which, who knows if they were actually going to fly one? Or they were genuinely waiting for someone to crash and then they chucked it out. It was, yeah, quite a hot water situation right there. Next question, Ellen Louise underscore 87.

What does your guys take on that false start? How do you think not one, but multiple drivers made that error? How I see it right now is very simple. Lando Norris made the error. everybody else followed. It's like, right, it's like when you go to cross the road. Someone walks out first,

you go, we're good to go. So we all walk out. That's basically what I think happened, where Lando rolls away, and they go, oh, well, if Lando's gone, then I'll go as well.

And then they all went, and we're still waiting right now as to what's actually going to happen with these drivers and whether Joguanu is actually the winner of the Brazilian Grand Prix. They've only just been called, by the way.

Lande has only just been called and we are filming two hours after the race and he's only just been basically... I mean there were a lot of incidents in that race. There were a lot of incidents

but yeah, he's been called to the Stiers now so it's still going to be a long time. He's got... He actually got a 10 second gap on Sonoda, so I think he's going to be fine to see, famous last words. Unless they gave a stop and go

equivalent time penalty which is 30 seconds or whatever it might be. So yeah, we'll wait to see on that one, but not like it really matters now. No, I do agree with you there, the fact that it is a case of once one goes, the other goes.

We've seen that a few times in Formula One with start procedures, when lights are failed and everyone copies each other and just goes. Of course, yes, you should have known the rules that seems like other drivers did. But, yeah, it's, I think the fact that I'm surprised actually that McLaren maybe it was such a quick process but I'm surprised that the team didn't know and weren't shouting on the radio no no no no stop

don't go whatever you do don't go very bizarre because there wasn't a green light and normally with these start procedure things they are very extreme with the kind of punishments and penalties because of course the reason it's aborted and people should stay on the grid is because there were people still on the track sort of sorting out Lance Stroll's car so they don't take it lightly but like you say maybe with how the title's going it could be insult to injury for Lando but it feels like the damage has been done for this race doesn't it it really has if he won this race and, you know, perhaps Max or some drivers could take advantage of it, then we'd be sort of on the edge of our seats waiting for this to come out.

Yeah, where it kind of swung immediately where it kind of like, right, this is Lando's best chance to take a massive chunk of as Happens' lead. Oh, no, he's done something at the start immediately. That's just ridiculous. My brain could not keep up with most of the turning points of this. Next question comes in from P1 Patreon member, Sam Duggan. Douglass. Could the race not have started at the usual time? The weather seemed to be much better and would have given people more time to fix the cars from Quali. I'm not going to have a go at the FIA in Formula One and everyone for coming to an agreement with the weather because look, the weather can bubble up and change a thousand times in Brazil. They did what they could

with the information they were given at the time, which was run it earlier. Drivers had to set ridiculous, everyone, mechanics, everybody, everybody had to. to set ridiculously early alarms. We had qualifying at half seven in the morning local time, which is the earliest decision has ever happened in Formula One history. So I'm not going to, because again, it's a benefit of hindsight. Oh, the weather was a bit better at the end. You don't know.

So I applaud F1 and the FIA for actually trying to make this happen because I believe we were having this exact criticism after SPAR 2021, where it didn't go ahead, we knew it was going to absolutely bucket it down with rain. F1 and the FIA probably went, yeah, but we don't want to change the start time because we've told everyone the start time throughout the entirety of the weekend.

We don't want to change it, but they did. So fair play, I'm not going to criticise them at all. No, me neither. Absolutely fair play to Formula One and everyone that's put it on earlier because you also think how late and how long the race was going on, with so many stoppages and crazy moments that even if we had started later and it went on longer, you're going to be losing light as well because the race was what, like three hours, I think,

not the actual length of the race, but how long it went from, you know, the start lights going out to the check and flag. So yeah, I have to give them respect for doing it because normally they have been very much like, no the start time is gospel and you cannot change it. So the fact that they, the fact that we actually based on all that weather and how grim it was looking yesterday got a qualifying session and a race in. And just to cover one more point,

I think Ted Kravitz, because a lot of people going, all the poor fans that were there on Saturday, I think Ted Kravitz covered that they were only selling three-day tickets anyway. So it seems like people were there for, the whole weekend. So it seems like 99% of people

wouldn't have missed out which is obviously a good thing and what a race they got to see. Absolutely. Okay, next question. Polo Zoom. What's more useless? The wet tire or Lance Stroll?

Lance Stroll, categorically. That was... God. Why? Okay, look, you can snatch your brakes. We've seen it. throughout the weekend, spears into the wall. We've literally seen this and it's been a problem for drivers.

So that's one thing happening on the formation lap for that to happen. The problem for me is the fact that Lance Stroll took a lot of time to sort of understand his surroundings. Okay, I'm down this runoff. To the left of me is a gravel trap. I'm going to have to turn left and try and avoid. No, I'm not going to avoid. I'm going to drive straight through it actually.

No, screw that. I'm going, oh, God, it's really deep. Oh, no, this is so deep. Oh, I should have listened to my engineer about how deep that gravel trap is when we were doing the track walk. I'm stuck. That was sort of the turn of events for Lance Stroll.

And you can't get any more embarrassing than that. It really cannot. And Tommy, the question I want to ask you off the top of that is, is his seat under threat? I think it might be. Um, no, I mean, oh my God, absolutely. Of all the drivers for it to be as well, of course, it was Lance Stroll. I think you said during our watchline, did you?

If you'd done a track walk, you would have seen that, or like, surely that's the point of a track walk and all that kind of stuff. Um, and this is a driver. He has done 166 races. He is the most experienced Canadian Formula One driver ever. He's done so many races now, and I don't think a driver with this many races make so many rookie errors. If that was Colapinto or Olli Bearman or something, then maybe you'd give him a bit of the benefit of the doubt. It's still a big error because I think every Formula One fan knows that cars get beached in gravel traps. That's basic wheel knowledge.

but instead Lance Stroll the fact that he had so much time like you say to basically discover it to basically go right how do I how do I maneuver this how does this work? I'm not put my car in a vulnerable position

by putting it in a gravel trap exactly no I did I will say this is not devil's advocate this is just to say that that was a different kind of gravel trap to what we usually see which are sort of like bigger pebbles and the cars can usually roll over it but this one was basically

it looked like almost quicksand, the way that it was very deep, and it was a different kind of gravel trap. But that is information that should be in the driver's head. That's your job, Lance Stroll, to know that that gravel trap is not possible to be driven through. But he did. It was all on the formation. He basically was like, I see what you're doing here into Lagos. This is a stressful race.

I'm out. Formation lap done. Charlotte Claire. Look, he did it last year. Beautiful. Straight in the garage. Let's chill out. Yeah, exactly. The only thing Lance Strauss ever done to replicate Charlotte Clare's driving, and it's the bad part.

It wasn't Charles Falkman. I mean, Lance didn't have a failure. Charles did. So anyway, I had a failure of talent. Don't want to reflect on last year at all anymore for LeClauze Formation lap. Let's go to biggest winner, driver or team. Max Verstappen is God be for God's sake, that man. It's just not really fair, actually. I've decided Tommy for you to support him. It's like it is a cheap code. Like, you know, oh, I support match.

Well done. Yeah, but he always seems to win championships. Okay, that's what he's doing at the moment. And he's just far too OP. Like, he really is. Like, just relax. You didn't have to put 17 fastest laps in. Just make it like 15 or 12 or not.

No. It's an outrageous. It is just showing off. It was a proper like F1 game on the easiest setting. driving past everyone and then winning the race by miles and it being not even a challenge really. Also

Alpine of course have got to be a shout for biggest winner. Just the fact that they've rocketed up the standings. Yeah. Alpine just I just love that Alpine so much. Estimesty up on the podium baby.

Yeah. Alpine amazing performance from them. It's got to be the big shout. I think if you'd have said... Is it an insane thing to say that even though Vestappen started 17th, it's more surprising that Alpine was second than third.

Yeah, I mean, it is. It's not insane. Yeah, it is. I think it's got to be Al-Pin. We all knew there was a potential Vestappan could pull off a worldly. You didn't think Alpine would finish second and third

in this season of the top four teams being clear of everyone else. I think it's actually Alpine because Vestappan's obviously extended his lead massively in the World Championship but kind of stayed away whereas Alpine

have absolutely catapulted from pretty much bottom all the way cash money and that is what they've made serious cash money okay well done to Alpine for biggest winner

biggest loser there are a lot of contenders there are a lot of contenders from this weekend stroll is impressive I didn't think we could get that bad but we did but then he

did he have much to lose? Not really. Definitely not his seat. Williams are, I think Williams in general. Williams? Williams? Yeah.

They've had three crashes in one single day, written off a car completely that didn't even do the race. And the fact that Alpine have leapfrogged them in the championship. Yeah. I think it's a disaster for Williams. It cemented them ninth in the championship rather than fighting Alpine all the way down to the last race of the season. I think it's got to be Williams. Yeah.

Even though, like you say, there's a lot of people there that've had a stinker. Science was like, wow, based on the last race. Horrendous. He crashed in qualifying. Yeah. Cashed in the race. He wasn't making any progress. Ollie Berman had a shocker.

Hasse had a shocker. Hockenberg got disqualified. Berman finished 12th, though. I mean, that's a good result. Yeah, exactly. Still beat the stake. Yeah. It's got to be Williams.

All of that chaos and joke when you still finish. last. That's ridiculous. Okay, good. All right. So we're going for biggest loser, Williams. Yeah. Yeah. There's plenty. I mean, it might be Mercedes when they both get disqualified for that tire pressure thing, which I've been seeing if they're getting disqualified or penalized for that. Let's reflect now on our predictions if we have to, because I don't really want to talk about mine. And it says here in the sheet, Tommy, that it's 49-49 to you. How is that possible? Because I changed what it was last time and did. add the rest in.

Was it because you've had more P1s? Like what are we saying here? Maybe, yeah. So it's 49 all. It is a biggest good surprise. I went for Charlotte. And look, look how, look how devastating of a blow

Charlotte Clare gave to his teammate Carlos, Carlos, Science. That's a P1 podcast when your parents walk in the room. But yeah, he did destroy Carlos signs. So realistically, that's the biggest

good surprise. I know it's not. It's not. Thank you. Mine did much better. Chefed by his teammate and disqualified from the whole race because the biggest good surprise is very much a biggest surprise. I think my biggest good surprise is a challenge to your biggest flop curse, but the wrong way.

But you're scoring no points for it. I'm scoring points. So yeah, two terrible ones. Mine a lot worse. Zero and zero. Biggest flop. I went for Kevin Magnuson, which, according to Twitch chat, I don't deserve the point for, which I know, I get he was unwell, but it's still a flop.

He didn't compete in the Grand Prix. And then some people were like, yeah, well, it carries over to Olly Berman. All right, then. Ollie Berman's crashed, got penalties, didn't score a point. I'm taking it. I was going to say, it was going to be half a point. That's what I came to an agreement with with Twitch chat, was that they'd give me half a point for the K-Mag. But now that Olly Berman was also shocking in Kevin Magnuson's car, I think that

I can't believe I'm even having to defend myself right now. You know what? I'd love to argue against you, but it's literally who's going to have a bad weekend and the guy didn't even make it to the track. I'm not saying he drove badly. No, it's not about, yeah, it's an engine blows up. That's a flop. Yeah, if you said Logan, if you said Logan Sargent was going to have a bad race in Australia

when they swapped the cars and he didn't get to compete, it's still a flop. Yeah. It's a flop for his career. It's like you've had a bad Biggest good surprise is you've had a good race It's basically just biggest flop You've had a bad race A very bad race

And you can't have a worse race than losing To see for a I can't believe I'm not going for it for you Thanks Tom I appreciate that I think I can't believe for people there Yeah thanks man So mine Mine is TBC

Because I went for Mercedes And as normally when I go for a team One of them's the absolute go and one of them's useless. And that's basically what happened this weekend. That's crazy love on the podcast. He had a terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible race, has to be said. Yeah.

Well, basically, that's TBC, but is the double pointer if they both get disqualified, surely? What? Two points for a... Wait, relax. Let's see how the scores are looking. Yeah, we have to wait to see the disqualification. Well, don't worry, Tony.

I'm not scoring... Spoken like a true FAA. A, Stewart. Let's wait to see the points and then decide the panel. Let's try and make it close no matter what. Okay, so TBC right now, but if they both get disqualified, then perhaps you are on for a double pointer. Okay.

Sprint poll, I went for Charlotte, Claire. You're supposed to also say you went for Charlotte, that's what happens in a podcast we discuss and talk and conversationalize. I thought you were going to say no. No, but because you said the same thing, I thought you were also going to. Anyway, sprint winner, I went for Charlotte Claire. I went for Charlotte Claire. Nice, well played, zero points.

Pole position. I went for Lewis. Hamilton. Close. He sent the fastest time in a 1990 McLaren around Interlagos. So you're telling me there's half a point now. In the Heritage Formula One series. Yeah, I didn't get that right, sadly. No, and Paul position, I went for Landon Norris, which did happen.

Disgraceful. How have you scored a point there? I can't leave that. That is wild. But perhaps he would have done better. Maybe. being out at the back was the way to be in that race. No pressure. Top three.

I have a feeling we're not going to score many points here. Landon RISP3, no. Color Science P3, no. Charlotte Clare P2, no. Charlotte Clare P2, no. Lewis Hamilton first. First one down the Kimmy Rikin and an escape route. Right.

He set several times. And I went for London orus P1. No. He won the sprint, half a point. No. And is that the That's got to be one of the only times We've not got a single podium driver, surely

Because normally one of us gets the least one. I don't know I think you underestimate how we can be sometimes I just swore, that's crazy I just swore on the podcast, that's wild Let's write that down one hour two Good, I forgot, I wasn't on Twitch for a second there But yes

I mean, to be fair If any of us have gone For step a knock on Gassley I think would have just had the prediction championship there. You just win. Instant trophy. Just give it all to me right now, Tommy. Okay, so then one crazy prediction.

Look, I was really chefing this week. Top four in quality under a tenth. Let me see what the quality results were. I don't think it was anywhere near. It wasn't London. No, I'm not saying it was going to be close. I was more saying that it was absolutely nowhere near. Jesus Christ, it was 1.1 second separating the top four.

Okay, interesting. So if you added a second on, you still wouldn't have got it right. Yeah, literally. As far off it was. Actually, now, if it was a second, I would have got it. If you take off a second, that's half a point. And speaking of couldn't get any less correct, I went for Lando gains more than 10 points on Max Verstaffin.

And you literally said, and I think you were trying to jinx it at the start of the watch along, I've absolutely chef this. My crazy prediction is locked in. Lando's going to score loads of points here. It was looking very, very good before. And then that's one by 20 seconds. And then Dada, Dada, D. Dhabits back to Stappen.

Okay, three crazy predictions. CFC underscore Craig. Shaltor overtake Lando in the Drivers' Championship. Not this race, but it's coming. Don't worry. F1 Chronicle, Lawson finishes higher than Vestappen. No. And Scudoray, Bottas moves up to 20.

22nd in the standings. Oh, it was so close. There's still a chance. There is still a chance. Where did he finish? 13th. He finished 13th, so all he needs is both Merks. It doesn't even need Lando because 11th is enough for him.

Is it? Yeah, yeah. Is 11th for P-22? 11th will... Oh, because he's 21st. And he's got more 12th than Logan. Wow, I love how deep you've gone into this, this title battle. I'd say.

One hour into a podcast. It's like post-watershed. Oh my goodness. It just goes off the rails when you hit that hour mark. This is usually on our Patreon. This is crazy. But that is how deep you've gone into the whole stats of this P-22 battle in the standard. Exactly.

I, you know, this of a step and things all of the size. I'm still Logan Sergeant fanboy, really, and I still study his championship battle every night. Yeah. Wow. Every night. Crazy. Okay, well, that's it. We're done.

We're finished. We've probably got another 100 instance to talk about in driver ratings, but you can look forward to that in a couple of days' time. Tommy, what are your final thoughts, please? And keep them PG. Thank you. Oh, my God. Final thoughts are that.

Oh, wow. This is the worst final thought I've ever seen. I've actually just seen that cheekily Red Bull have retweeted the graphic of, you know, when they did the Landon or a statement one and they do one for every driver now with a bit of a weird kind of yeah

so Formula One basically did one of Max with Masterclass and Red Bull quote tweeted it and put statement full stop which is exactly what Lando said right and actually Max sort of did his simply lovely thing as well didn't he as a yeah he was absolutely desperate to say that

It was. He's been waiting for that. It was brilliant the way he said it as well. It was good. So yes, we wait for the news of Mercedes and Lando and can't wait for the driver ratings because... That's a pretty simple race to grade, I would say. Exactly. Nothing really happened. It's a sprint which is normally easier because you've got two races to cover.

Lots of controversy, penalties, different weather conditions. Yeah. I'm sure all our results will be 100% factually correct. Absolutely. Everybody, stay tuned for what the grade will be for Joe Guan Yu. You will be there waiting for when it comes out. Well, it could all change because if he's getting a, it could P-13s on the cards. That's a solid three out of ten if I've ever seen it.

So the craziest race ever, and he still builds up the room. It's wild, isn't it? Okay, that's it. Thank you, everybody, for watching and listening. We will be back in a while. for our next race review because we've got a few weeks before Vegas. But we'll have lots of podcasts, lots of discussion topics between now and then. And make sure as well, P1 Live Show UK tour tickets.

If you want to come see me, Tommy in person, we'd love to see you there. And that's it. We're done. Goodbye, Tommy. Sweet dreams, everybody. And I think this is the sweetest of dreams. You need this. After this, this race.

Yeah. I'm going to sleep for a thousand years. Same. So keep pushing in the gym, though. you are and um ah i've just heard the microwave go get your pot noodle out because you need some sustenance after that hard work in the gym and oh sorry no that teatow is not it's a little bit creased could you just fold that for me thank you um i'm trying to think of anything that's like you've left your telly on as well you've left your telly on well well don't turn it off if it's the p1

podcast that's currently playing through it no no no no um and then also oh my god Tommy's at the door. Ding-dong. Let him in. Ding-dong. Can you get your dog to stop barking, please? Thank you. Not Frank.

I was going to say the rare time Frank's not actually barking. I know. Well, what a race. Thank you, everybody. Water race. Sweet dreams. Goodbye. Enjoy your drive. P1 is a Stack production

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