P1 with Matt and Tommy - Canadian GP Driver Ratings

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:19 Always correct. Exactly. Always correct. There is no room for discussion here. But thank you for tuning in everybody. Looking forward to this one. Mainly because it wasn't the most chaotic race. understand because the only safety car we had was at the end.
Starting point is 00:01:35 So are you feeling confident about this one, Tommy? Do you think there are any controversial ones? There's always controversial ones, isn't there? But, you know, some people have had really, a lot of people have had very, very, very good races this weekend, of course, and some people have had very bad ones. So, yeah, there'll be some discrepancy between very high and low grades, I think. And if you're watching on YouTube, it's 30 degrees in my room, and I'm sorry for the unintentional, I was going to call it a thirst, it's not a thirst, what's the opposite of a thirst trap?
Starting point is 00:02:05 Oh, it is a de-high, no, okay, you're enjoying it. A hydrating trap, that's what it is. We're all here for it. Right, okay, let's go into it. Let's start with Gabriel Bortoletto, started the race in 15th, finished 14th. I'm going to lock in for Gabriel Bortoletto, not a five, but a six out of 10. I have to remind myself when I do these ratings that my expectations for drivers such as Bortoletto and other rookies should be slightly shifted. I know we're 10 races in, but 10 races is not a huge amount. But I think he did all right. He didn't start at the back. I think the Salber again, we're having to shift our thoughts on where this car deserves to be now. And Holkenberg is proving that with his phenomenal performances, but not to take anything away from Nico.
Starting point is 00:02:53 But for Bortoletto, you know, he got ahead of signs at the start. He was keeping Colopinto behind, obviously another rookie. But it was one of those DRS trains that I believe he very much got stuck in, but by no means a bad performance. Yeah, I've gone for a six for Bortoletto as well. He missed out on Q2 by 7,000th of a second, which is very unlucky indeed. So you never know what he might have done if he'd have made it, made it through there from the slimmest of margins.
Starting point is 00:03:24 But, yeah, he was very much in that kind of. midfield pack a very bizarre strategy again I'd love to see the day where Salber actually put him on a normal strategy because he went 49 laps on the hards and then for the mediums at the end but still not the greatest weekend
Starting point is 00:03:45 but certainly not an appalling one the fans gave Gabriel a six as well Nico Holcomberg started the race in 11th finished 8th I have gone for a 10 out of 10 for Nika Holkenberg. It feels almost a 9 and maybe it's a low 10 and I could totally understand why people went for a 9 but I'm not going to punish him just because he finished P5 in the last race.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I still think 8th in a salber is beyond expectation. Don't get me wrong, the salber is a much better car than it was last year when we were expecting. expecting them to finish last every single weekend. But do I think it's a car that is almost winning the midfield battle? Absolutely not. So for him to do that and qualify extremely well as well. Yeah, it's another brilliant performance from Holkenberg to score an even bigger chunk of points.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Yeah, what a performance. I love how similarly minded we are because I had the exact same problem of going either nine or ten for Nico. I'm going to lock in a nine. It's a very high nine, mainly because there were slight good fortune mixed in for Nico.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Obviously, the Franco and Alex little kerfuffle allowed Nico to come steaming through. I mean, there's not nothing to take away from the fact that he placed the car well. And then he also finished behind Alonzo, which potentially he could have beaten him. Obviously, Lonzo was on a slightly different strategy.
Starting point is 00:05:23 But yeah, It's still a phenomenal grade. It's still a phenomenal drive. But is it the perfect one? It's close. It's so, so close. What a mad situation that Nico Hockenberg. And may I just remind everyone right now that is typing ferociously say,
Starting point is 00:05:39 how can you not give Niko Halkenberg a 10? A nine is not a four, okay? A nine is a very close to perfect. So well done, Nico. The fans, so you shouldn't be writing ferociously in the comments, gave him a nine. So there you go. Alex Albon started the race in ninth, did not finish.
Starting point is 00:05:59 This one was kind of a hard one to grade because he of course qualified really well in comparison to his teammate Carlos, but then got involved in that instant that I just mentioned that Holkenberg profited from where I'm kind of questioning why Alex sort of went for it in the first place. It was a very risky move at a part of the track where two cars don't tend to. to go, whether he was thinking that Colapinto was going to get out of it as a rookie. I'm not sure, but I don't think Colapinto has shown that he just gives up positions easily. If anything, he was fighting pretty hard indeed.
Starting point is 00:06:35 So Albon, of course, then falling down because of that and then was on a really rubbish strategy. I haven't even said my grade yet. So five out of ten. So five out of ten for Albon. It was going to be higher, of course, starting ninth and looking pretty good. but the strategy was poor. He was having a go at Williams
Starting point is 00:06:55 and then of course, DNFed at the end. I'm not going to give him any lower than a five because he was in a good position at the start. So that's what I'm going for. Yeah, I've gone for a five as well. I totally agree that the move with Colapinto,
Starting point is 00:07:07 I think that's one you have to back out of. Unfortunately, these modern Formula One cars, you cannot go side by side into chicanes like that anymore. They're just too tight. The cars are too big. They're too long. and it just makes it almost impossible unless you completely outbreak them massively.
Starting point is 00:07:27 So I feel like that was always one that in hindsight, Alex should have backed out of. And of course, then going over the runoff area and jumping into the air probably didn't do that car any good, which of course later retired with a mechanical failure. We'll never know if that was the actual reason,
Starting point is 00:07:43 but it probably didn't help leaping into the air and then slamming on the floor. But he qualified Wells so it's no harsher than a five. The fans gave him a five as well. Carlos Seines, started the race in 16th, finished 10th. I have gone for a seven out of ten for Carlos Sites. He was very unlucky in qualifying, of course, getting blocked by Isaac Hadjar.
Starting point is 00:08:10 What might have been, I think you definitely would have got through. I don't see how any other way than it, because he missed out by the slimmest of margins and got blocked massively during that qualifying session. So for him to actually get points in the end is pretty impressive. I do think Williams will be quite gutted actually to only come away from that weekend with a single point after they were looking so strong in practice. But it's a good drive from Carlos to recover to a point. It's been a poor run of form, hasn't it really, for Williams?
Starting point is 00:08:44 Spain as well, of course, one to forget. I've also gone for a 7 out of 10 for Carlos. Yeah, I can't downgrade him for where he starts because he was so heavily impeded. Three to four tenths, he said, at the end of qualifying. And then he was managing issues throughout the race as well. So for him to still score a point is pretty good going. But yeah, nothing that really kind of got the juices flowing,
Starting point is 00:09:09 sadly, whether that's due to the car issues or just being stuck in trains, which is just Formula 1. in general, but still getting a point not too bad for Carlos. But considering where our expectations are for Williams now, a 10th is like, eh, all right, moving on. The fans gave him a 7 as well. Isaac Hadjar started the race in 12th, penalised three places for impeding and qualifying,
Starting point is 00:09:34 and then finished the race in 16th. Hmm. It's a poor weekend for Isaac. I'm going for a 4 out of 10 for Hadjar. Now, I know I said at the top of the show, I shift my ratings for rookies and things like that. Hadjar is rookie of the season at the moment.
Starting point is 00:09:54 He is paved the way for what we can see as his potential now and this was yeah just a a poor race, a poor strategy.
Starting point is 00:10:06 He said at the end of the race that they pitted too late had high graining at the start and then just had no pace compared to the cars around him at the end as well so I can't really give him a particularly good grade
Starting point is 00:10:17 considering what we've seen from him this year. It definitely was one of the poorer weekends. And the flop, I can see the resurgence of the prediction flop. Here it comes. It's coming over the head, Tommy. You've caught right up, haven't you? You have. I have gone for a six for Isaac Hadjar.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I think he did very, very well to get into Q3 when his teammate wasn't, didn't even make it out of Q1. But yeah, his race, of course, wasn't that great. The penalty probably didn't help him being caught in this. the midfield. But definitely one of his worse races this weekend, for sure. Intriguing. The fans meet us in the middle and go for a five. Liam Lawson started the race from the pit lane, did not finish. I've gone for a four out of ten for Liam Lawson. His qualifying was
Starting point is 00:11:09 poor, but he'd made up a few places in the race and managed to kind of mix it up in that midfield pack. But yeah, he, he, he, He seemed like he was doing a bit of a Monaco again where there was just a massive train behind him for quite a lot of the time. And then obviously retired with something that wasn't his fault. So a bit of a weekend to forget really. But I don't think it was absolutely appalling from him. Just not great. And he really needs to pick up his pace with Limblad kind of waiting in the wings and now being allowed this kind of opportunity to drive if they need him.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I've gone for a three out of ten for loss and I think it was a pretty poor weekend and definitely poorer than Hajar. I know you say that he was mixing it in with the midfield but I think the only reason he was doing that was because he was staying out on hard tires and some of the drivers behind him had pit earlier and he was just causing this kerfuffle.
Starting point is 00:12:04 I think he would have finished right at the back had it not been for obviously the DNF and we don't know where he would have finished but he was definitely lacking pace and causing all kinds of problems out there in Montreal. The fans gave him a three as well. Ollie Berman started the race in 13th, finished 11th. I've gone for a seven out of ten for Ollie Berman.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Every time we rode on board with him, I felt like he was sideways or locking up or just having a little bit of a scruffy weekend and to finish just outside the points after all of that is pretty mad. Like Hasse in general are just such a strange car to be able to know where they actually sit in the pecking order. But he showed good pace and I think is fully deserving of a seven out of ten. And as I say, as I say, just a small amount behind the points. I've gone for a seven for Ollie Bearman as well. Yeah, he was one of the many drivers that got stuck in DRS trains in the midfield.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Very, very difficult to pass, of course. out qualified his teammate that did what on paper is the better strategy but in a formula now where it's very very nearly impossible to overtake you know he was stuck and that's what kind of hampered his progress but
Starting point is 00:13:28 it's still a fairly decent performance from Ollie but I still feel like there's more to come from him you can see that he's got something special there and he just needs to kind of cut out silly mistakes here and there because I do feel like it's only a matter of time before he has that kind of performance like Ocon has where he pops it in like a P7 or a P8 in a race and it's a great performance? Yeah, I think so. I think he's just
Starting point is 00:13:53 maybe a bit slower of a builder of this momentum and getting fully dialed in with the car. But as I said, preseason, I thought he was going to be the driver that really stood out. And I still believe that he will get better as this season goes on. The fans gave him a seven as well. Stahban-Ockon, start the race in 14th, finished 9th. I've gone for an 8 out of 10 for Estabana-O-Con. A very good result for Hasse, for him to grab some more points. A crazy strategy that worked, you know, going really long. Yeah, I know, they love it.
Starting point is 00:14:33 And Ockon's been doing that a lot this year, and it's just worked for him to go that long, you know. The amount of times they literally just go, we just won't. stop. If this formula is all about, you know, having like a Lawson that just keeps everyone behind him. And you can't overtake them. Why don't we just stay out and be in clean air and just set the pace that you can? It's clever thinking because I've always thought this about Formula One teams. If you're a midfielder and, you know, we've had this debate with Ferrari in the higher positions, but even from a midfield perspective, when you kind of could risk everything, and maybe get a P8 or a P9
Starting point is 00:15:14 or play it safe and finish 13th. There are no points for 13th. So even if you finish, you know, and we see this with Hass, you know, sometimes it has gone wrong and they've finished at the back and they've been terrible. And, you know, Australia, they were like a lap down
Starting point is 00:15:28 and you're thinking like, what on earth are they doing? But they've also got a huge chunk of points on the board because they keep rolling the dice and, yeah, fair play to them. They keep out strategising the rest of the field. I have also gone for an 8 out of 10. for Ocon, a brilliant drive. I think one that not a lot of people kind of realized was happening
Starting point is 00:15:48 until the safety car came out and we all just took a breather and saw that Ocon had spawned in 9th and was scoring a couple of points for Hasse. I think it was a great performance from him. Obviously, qualifying, nothing special. But yeah, Hasse strategy are cooking. Obviously, the drivers are doing well as well to execute on what is clearly a decent car in the races. So an eight out of ten from me to Ocon. The fans agree.
Starting point is 00:16:15 They've gone for eight as well. Franco Colapinto started the race in 10th, finished 13th. Hmm, this one is a difficult one. I think, you know what? I'm going to give Franco Colopinto a 7 out of 10 because he did very well, especially in comparison to what he was doing, where we were starting to mildly ring alarm bells,
Starting point is 00:16:48 just a small one. I know that obviously Flavio Briotori has been in the media saying that he's not happy, so it's not even like Alpina trying to cover it up. But I think Colapinto in qualifying was great, with his teammate literally last. And then even in the race, you know, finishing still ahead of Gassley.
Starting point is 00:17:07 It wasn't a massive distance between them in the end, but I still think it was a confidence builder for Franco and as much as 13th is nothing to write home about, I think that Alpine was pretty shocking and Colapinto kept his nose clean and did pretty well in my opinion. I've gone for a seven for Franco Colapinto as well. I think it's a much more impressive performance from him.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Brilliant in qualifying, has to be said. Almost, you know, it wasn't a million miles off making. it into Q3 he was absolutely gutted about not making it into Q3 which yeah Formula 1 drivers are always going to want more but I think his starting position which of course after penalties ended up 10th was was a really great performance because Alpina really struggling and in the race he had looked like he had a lot more pace you know he's it's not kind of the collar pinto that maybe we saw at Williams but he's still kind of getting to grips with that car and this is a much more positive performance from him because, yeah, he's done a very good job there to
Starting point is 00:18:16 turn it around when a lot of pressure was on him, because I think after that triple header, you know, he had Briatore saying he's not impressed and the pressure was really on, because if he'd had another one where he'd qualified last and had no roast pace and was kind of languishing at the back, you never know what Alpine might do. John Bellingham fielded for Austria. Maybe. Well, I want to see. I've got chances of team principal, you never know.
Starting point is 00:18:43 I've driven a Renault. So, I mean, like, come on, this is the next step, right? They've been rebranded at helping. Yes, interesting. Well, the fans, they gave him a six. They weren't as impressed with Franco Colopinto's weekend. Pierre Gassley started the race from the pit lane and finished 15th. I've gone for a five out of ten for Pierre Gassley.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Disappointing weekend for him, obviously qualified. Got a little bit caught up by the red flag. but then had a second lap which didn't quite work out, and then kind of came through the field and finished, you know, right near his teammate in the end, played the team game, letting Colopinto go as well. And, but still a disappointing one for Pierre Gazley, who, you know, in theory should be the stronger Alpine driver,
Starting point is 00:19:29 so I've gone for a five. I've gone for a four. I'm not going to be so nice about Pierre Gasly's performance because it was not great. I know that he was on a lap, I think, in Q1, but it was the red flag came out. So he said that he was on for a good lap there, and then the final lap he struggled to get the tyres in the right window.
Starting point is 00:19:55 But still, he put the pressure on himself, and sadly this is what was delivered was a P20. And then to finish 15th, this is not the Pierre Gazley that I certainly expect. It's very much an off weekend for Gassley, so I can't give him any higher than a four. The fans gave him a four as well. Lance Stroll, started the race on 17th, finished 17th.
Starting point is 00:20:23 What a performance. I've gone for a three. A three for Lance Stroll. He didn't crash. That's positive. Didn't practice. He did crash. He did crash in practice.
Starting point is 00:20:41 It's going to be a two. It's going to be a two out of ten for Lance Strohl because he crashed in practice. I was giving him a three because he didn't crash. It's going to be a two. Just so anonymous. 17th and 17th when your teammate is qualifying sixth and then finishing seventh is just so far off it. I know that he had his little risk operation to make him good for Canada, but at the same time, don't come back if you're not ready,
Starting point is 00:21:16 or I don't think he even said he wasn't ready. So he just said he wasn't pleased with the weekend, rough long day, so not much more to say, which is unsurprising to see Lance Stroll not be particularly chatty with the media. So yeah, I'm going for a two, not happy at all. I have gone for a, or is, between a two and a three, but I'm actually going to go for a two. Yeah, I am going to go for a two because let's not forget as well.
Starting point is 00:21:46 You know, the qualifying was incredibly poor, but then in the race he got a 10 second second penalty, which I look back on now. At the time, I thought it was actually a bit harsh, but watching it again from like the replays and seeing the whole context, he does squeeze in when Gasly was alongside him. So I understand why he got the penalty. and then to just be kind of at the back quite you know back of that that kind of train and and dead last while your teammate is is way up the road and kind of at the top of the midfield is a is a shocker has to be said and you do wonder if you know he's raced back too too quickly
Starting point is 00:22:29 if he has indeed you know got his arm in bandages and things and I understand that he wanted to race in his home Grand Prix and things, but it did not not work for him at all. It did not, and the fans are also of the same opinion. They've gone for a two out of ten as well. Fernando Alonzo, started the race in sixth, finish seventh. I'm giving Fernando Alonzo a ten. I think that, you know, don't get me wrong,
Starting point is 00:22:58 the Aston Martin is close between a nine or ten, a little bit like Holkenberg, to be perfectly honest. But the reason I'm giving Alonzo a 10 is you look at where Aston are. I don't know. You know, I know his teammate has done badly and we row strolled for not being very good, but he can do well on his day and can show some good pace. And Alonzo has absolutely destroyed him. I think his qualifying was absolutely sensational to outqualify McClaren in a Ferrari
Starting point is 00:23:29 when I think the gap between the front runners and the midfield now is an absolute chasm. I've got dirty air, mate, but don't worry about it. Well, yeah, shouldn't have, though, should he? And, yeah, he made it happen. He got an amazing qualifying, and then to finish best of the midfield, I can't give him anything other than a 10, because I think he's just had an absolutely spot-on race. And when I see it at the end out of all the drivers,
Starting point is 00:24:00 I think he's had one of the best Grand Prix along with Nika Holkenberg and another individual that we'll get on to later. Oh, Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, you are teasing me because I had very similar discussions in my own head because he lost a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:24:18 He lost a lot of time on the tyres at the start and it's still, it's best of the rest but he finished so, he finished a long way behind everyone else like in terms of the top six and Hamilton was running
Starting point is 00:24:34 a groundhog filled floor. What is it going to be? It's going to be a 10. Fine. I've changed it. Well done, Fernando Alonzo. I mean, it was, again, it's not deciding whether he's had a rubbish race or an amazing race. It's whether it's amazing or kind of amazing. But no, we'll go with amazing.
Starting point is 00:24:54 10 out of 10 for Fernando Alonzo. Thoroughly impressive. So good, just so good to see these kind of performances because not only is it great because we know that the, talent that he has, but as a human, I think Alonzo needs these performances in order to keep this intrigue with the sport up. Of course, we have next year where the Aston Martin, he's hoping, will be a championship contending car with Adrian Nui at the helm. But like, just, just in the interim, right, so that Alonzo doesn't think about retiring if 26 is bad. Like, we want him at least
Starting point is 00:25:26 till he's 50, surely. Come on. So yeah, 10 out of 10 for me. The fans, they said a bit amazing. nine out of ten. Kimmy Antonelli started the race in fourth, finished third. Ten. It's ten. Kimmy Antonelli, come on my guy. It was, now this is probably with some rose-tinted glasses on because I was very happy to see Antonelli on the podium
Starting point is 00:25:51 and there were definitely small floors in this weekend, i.e., qualifying was still pretty in the grand scheme of things, far off George. but I was so impressed with his race that I can't give him anything other than a 10. His race pace was pretty comparable to what George was putting down and George was on fire this weekend. Antonelli is 10 races into his Formula 1 career. So it is such a step up from what we've seen from Kimmy Antonelli this year. Miami is of course another one that I look to, but even Miami he had mistakes in there. This one, he fully delivered in the race.
Starting point is 00:26:30 and scored a brilliant podium. He had two McLaren's behind him, bearing down on him. It could have easily made a mistake to let Piastri or Norris through had that instant not happened. But yeah, 10 out of 10. I've also gone for a 10 out of 10 for Kimi Antonelli.
Starting point is 00:26:46 I think, you know, it's similar to Alonzo and Holcomberg where it's very close between a 9 and a 10, probably a low 10, a high 9. They don't give out highs and lows. Exactly, and we don't. And I think he deserves a 10 because, you know, His qualifying, I think, was disappointing, even though the result of it was obviously great to be P4,
Starting point is 00:27:07 but it was a long way off George. But the way he held on to, you know, Russell during the race is incredible because I think that race had rookie struggles written all over it with the tire deck. It's a difficult track. So for him to be, you know, before Landau's incident, he was about four seconds behind Russell is absolutely sensational. definitely the best performance that he's had in a Formula One car so far and excited to see what comes next for him
Starting point is 00:27:38 and yeah, very wholesome to see a new guy on the podium and the crowd were absolutely loving it. That was great to see as well. They certainly were. The fans have given him a 10. George Russell! This one's going to be a hard one. Started the race from first.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Finish first. It's a 10 out of 10 for George Russell. it was a perfect weekend the Mercedes you know this is these are the races where earlier in the season I think George was delivering
Starting point is 00:28:11 a great performance but we said you know can he kind of take it to that next level and deliver a win and similar to kind of like what Max has done in a few races this year
Starting point is 00:28:22 you've kind of had this has probably been the only race where Mercedes had an opportunity to win and George Gotpole and won the race. So, you know, it's a brilliant drive from George. His Q3 lap was brilliant.
Starting point is 00:28:36 And, yeah, it's just a really, really, really good drive from him. Can't fault it. No, you can't. It was perfection. Of course I've gone for a 10 out of 10 for George Russell. Getting pole on the mediums, obviously on paper, you're like, this guy is the goat. But of course, we have the strange step of tires for this Canadian Grand Prix,
Starting point is 00:28:58 the softest set. But yet he didn't put a foot wrong at all. George was phenomenal from the start of the weekend all the way through to the end. And it makes you wonder, doesn't it? Where is this Mercedes at? As we head to the next few races, we always thought in hot conditions,
Starting point is 00:29:17 they're not going to be able to perform. It was hot. The track temperature was hot on Sunday. And George's pace did not fall off. And he managed the race beautifully. It's just, yeah, it gets me excited to see what Mercedes can maybe do and will they challenge in weekends coming up? We'll have to wait and see.
Starting point is 00:29:39 A 10 from me and the fans gave him a 10 as well. Yuki Sonoda started the race from 18th. He was penalised 10 places for overtaking under red flags in practice and then finished the race in 12th. So 5 out of 10 for Yuki Sonoda. It was all right, considering what's been going on in the Red Bull camp for the second driver, stayed out clearly hoping for some advantageous VSC safety car, maybe the Ocon strategy, where it pretty much was the Ocon strategy,
Starting point is 00:30:24 56 laps on the hards before you then pit. But I mean, I can't give me any higher than a five when he can't even beat Ocon and signs on the same strategy in a Red Bull that is once again challenging for the win. It's sad to see but when you're so far down at the start of the race how can he put together
Starting point is 00:30:43 anything good at all? We just need a Yuki Q3 he starts 6th or 7th then let's really see what's going down. I've gone for a 5 out of 10 for Yuki Saneda as well. His penalty is I can see why he was
Starting point is 00:31:02 maybe a bit miffed by it because he overtook Piastri wasn't it when he was, Piastri had a puncture and was going quite slow down the straight. I can see why it was given because, you know, rules are rules and you can't overtake. His argument was probably the fact that, you know, that was the car that was going slow with the puncture. And what actually is quite interesting that I saw at the end of the race was a bit of team radio from Yuki. And I can understand his frustration here because, of course, at the end of the race,
Starting point is 00:31:32 a lot of drivers overtook at the end of the race, of course, after the checkered flag, but it was still safety car conditions. And Yuki Sanoda, I think quite rightly said on the radio, well, if I got penalised for that in practice, why isn't it a penalty for everyone else? So I can see why he's kind of annoyed by that. I would be too, given the fact that. Because it's red flag conditions compared to safety. car end of the race.
Starting point is 00:32:04 But then if it's rules or rules, why can you get away from the safety car thing? And yeah, I guess it's not completely black and white in terms of it's not like it was both red flag situations and then we both had overtakes. Maybe there's some leniency when it comes to to that. But yeah, I can also understand why he'd question it for sure. You know, the penalty was deserved in my opinion. And yeah, he was upset because, of course, that was the damaged car. and he said, oh, what if the wheel came off and this, that and the other?
Starting point is 00:32:34 My thinking of that was also, what's the rush? It's a red flag situation. Maybe there needed to be more team comms from Red Bull. I don't know exactly what the team radio was in that practice session, but just hang back. You're literally on the back straight, going to the pit lane for a red flag. You don't need to rush through, in my opinion. So either all, he got penalised massively,
Starting point is 00:32:56 and that basically screwed his weekend from there. The fans gave him a five. Max for Stappan started the race in second, finish second. I have gone for a nine out of ten for Max Verstappen. Probably the only driver in the world who could get P2 when his teammate is 12th and get a nine out of ten. But you always feel like when the car is good, Max could get a win. And I don't think, you know, he certainly didn't have a dominant car, but maybe it was a bit of a victim of his own success.
Starting point is 00:33:29 here because he's kind of maximised a good result for what the machinery he's got. But, you know, when that car is there, we know how good Max can be, and you feel like a 10 drive would be him, you know, winning the race. And it didn't look like, for me, it almost looked more like he was close to getting overtaken by Antonelli than he was ever challenging Russell for the win. So that's why I've gone for a nine. I've gone for a nine as well it's close to a 10
Starting point is 00:34:02 in some ways because it was a brilliant performance from Max to put it on the front row of the grid and then just be in the mix for winning that race was great and I think the strategy as well from Red Bull was absolutely on point
Starting point is 00:34:17 reacting it was he said after the race it was an aggressive strategy and a very defensive race and that's kind of very much what played out every time Antonelli got close and was about to pass, he jumped into the pits, took the undercut, and then kept track position because he knew that that was key. And I think that was ultimately what secured him P2.
Starting point is 00:34:39 I think Merck were very close to getting a one-two. Of course, when Antonelli came into the pits, he overcut him to some degree, but then couldn't get the tyres into a good window in those first few corners. But back to Max, brilliant stuff, nine out of ten. The fans gave him a nine as well. Lewis Hamilton started the race in fifth, finish sixth. I am going to give Lewis Hamilton a seven out of ten. Now, I am going to defend Lewis Hamilton because he was running a very alone race due to a groundhog called Gary,
Starting point is 00:35:20 who decided to introduce himself to the seven-time champion in the middle of the small straight towards the hairpin caused him 20 points of downforce loss which is around half a second a lap so it's hard to fully grade him I'm not going to give him any lower than that he outqualified Lecler yes we know why Lecler was outqualified
Starting point is 00:35:40 this and the other bit of dirty air etc etc but Hamilton was you know it was a reasonable qualifying and who knows what he could have done but I'm going to give him a very sympathetic seven out of ten yep I've gone for a seven well it's very much of what might have been for Lewis Hamilton think he's uh you know in a weird
Starting point is 00:36:02 ways for the for the championship points uh even though you know he's not he's not one to be finishing sixth and ever going to celebrate a sixth place but when you've got all that damage uh it was only ever going to be uh the kind of top end of the the top teams sorry the bottom end of the top teams and um yeah very very unlucky because a good qualifying and then Yeah, unfortunately, couldn't do anything and would have been interesting to see what he could have done, but we will never know because, of course, once you damage those flaws in this regulation, you are absolutely screwed. You certainly are. The fans gave him a seven as well. Charlotte Clare started the race in eighth, finished fifth.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I've gone four, a seven out of ten for Charlotte Clare. obviously the the crash in practice was not ideal but I think even without the practice time he could still you know have a great performance and he was unlucky with Hajjad don't get me wrong it's not like a hundred percent his fault but I can't be too kind of thinking it's very much like what might have been in qualifying for him and I do wish even now after all this time, just, Shal, get on the radio and say,
Starting point is 00:37:24 no Ferrari, jog on, I want to do this, because look at what Ockon did on a one-stop strategy and things like that. So just try something different. If you want to do it, as we've said with the Hasses,
Starting point is 00:37:36 that, you know, if you want to finish fifth, go ahead. But if you want to risk it and still finish fifth or maybe six, why not? And, you know, it's about time we saw Charles,
Starting point is 00:37:50 really standing up to Ferrari because that's what, you know, I think they need. I've also gone for a seven out of ten for Charlotte. A very much of what could have been weekend, which is just devastatingly painful for me, because he could have been in the fight for pole. He could have been right in there in the race as well, but we just won't know because sadly that's not what happened. of course crashing in practice is not ideal
Starting point is 00:38:20 and then also in qualifying as you mentioned Tommy having that mistake which was slightly forced by dirty air on the Ferrari strategy stuff it feels like they need to implement something to allow Shal to be creative if necessary because from what I'm seeing Shal has these ideas which sometimes will be right sometimes will be wrong
Starting point is 00:38:45 but he doesn't feel confident enough with them because he feels as though Ferrari know the full picture. So what Ferrari need to do is go, we see the full picture here, Charles. We think the two stop is better, but the one is viable. Rather than just overriding what Charles says
Starting point is 00:39:03 and going, well, we're going to go for a two stop. That isn't a relationship that is productive or allowing Charles, who literally is in the car, knows what the tyres are doing. No, he literally said afterwards,
Starting point is 00:39:16 the tires were fine. So there needs to be more communication. You compare that to the radios that we've seen from like Bono and GP where they get on the radio and they go, here's all the, like, here's all the information. Tell us what you want to do or we can make the decision for you. Yeah. So, Charles has too much reliance on Ferrari. The fact that Ferrari just override what he suggests when both of them seemed very viable from a spectator perspective, it's just not good enough. And I think that is more on Ferrari than it is Charles.
Starting point is 00:39:47 but it's just the inner workings of that team. And this is the reason, one of many reasons, why sadly Ferrari haven't won a driver's world title since the mid-2000s. So please sort that stuff out, whether it is literally just radio engineer and Charlotte Claire need to sit down and figure out a better way of working. Because this isn't the first time that it's happened and it's certainly not going to be the last either.
Starting point is 00:40:12 What's the point in having Charlotte-Clau feeding back if they're just going to choose their own strategy anyway? way. And that's what it always feels like it is. It's never really, it feels like, oh, okay, shall actually, you know, what you'll say is a good point. We'll go for that. It just always seems like there's a battle. Agreed. Okay, perfect. Good, good. I thought. You looked like you wanted to say something there to me. So I let you, I let you cook, but there was no seasoning in that shaker. The fans gave shall a seven. Lovely, lovely stuff. Oscar Piaastri, started the race and third, finished fourth.
Starting point is 00:40:49 We've gone for a seven out of ten for Oscar Piastri, one of his lowest grades of the year because, well, McLaren have set a very high benchmark and Oscar was looking pretty poor in practice. Now, that's not to take away the fact that he managed to still score good points, still extend his championship lead, but it did feel like a slightly off-color Oscar Piastri, weekend but he still did everything needed as a championship protagonist to keep
Starting point is 00:41:24 himself very much in the picture so that's what I think a seven represents for me I've gone for an eight for Oscar Piastri I think he's done a solid job I don't think McLaren was the the quickest car this weekend I think they could have got a win but you know he was very close at the end to maybe even nicking a podium before the collision. And I think it's just one of those drives that, like you say, it's what champions do when everything's going against you and you've not having your greatest weekend.
Starting point is 00:41:58 He still almost came out with a podium finish and, yeah, also, of course, extended his lead in the championship as well. So, yeah, a good drive from Oscar, but certainly not one of his best. It's weird because I'm kind of the opinion that McLaren did have the fastest car this weekend. saw glimmers of that with Lando and it was more of like an Oscar Pastery just struggling a little bit and also didn't use the suspension either did either new upgrades. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:25 So perhaps that was a factor. But yeah, anyway, the fans gave Oscar a seven. Lando Norris started the race in seventh, technically classified in 18th. I've gone for a one out of ten for Lando Norris. I don't know how, you know, you can kind of sugarcoat this. as anything else. Can't really have got any worse than him. You know, he qualified.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Poorly messed up his Q3 lap, which put him on the back foot. And then even had the pace to do very well, at least get on the podium, I think. But then, of course, crashed into his teammate with a really silly error, which of course he owned up to and fair play to him. But it was a really poor move that, yeah,
Starting point is 00:43:16 just made completely the wrong call, very fortunate from his side that he also didn't take his teammate out of the race, which is the biggest no-no as well. And then also in a weird way, he's slightly fortunate that it happened in the last four laps because he got classified and the five-second penalty, therefore, is redundant
Starting point is 00:43:33 because it would have meant that he would have carried that over to the next race and could have damaged him even more. So... You'd have a grid penalty, wouldn't he, if he'd gone to the next race rather than a five-shunding. So, yeah. I just don't... see how it can really get much worse
Starting point is 00:43:47 for him so for me it has to be a one and he has for me has to go down as the the driver that scores the least points here like the lowest in the driver rating standings as you were very fair I'm going to be slightly more generous and give him a two because
Starting point is 00:44:03 he was showing and I'm going to give the one positive of the weekend which was the fact he was rapid and he was turning around a poor qualifying into what looked like and was shaping up to be a pretty decent race. He was going to, if he pulled off the move,
Starting point is 00:44:21 beat Oscar Piaastri, his championship rival in a weekend where he had quite a few mistakes. Now for the negatives, yes, qualifying was poor, messed up not one but two of his Q3 laps, which put him seventh on the grid. And his potential, I don't know how Lando fans feel about this, But watching it unfold, it must be so frustrating to see quite clearly a very fast driver just not be able to perform.
Starting point is 00:44:56 And what we've seen most of the time this year in qualifying, the qualifying has been his big Achilles heel. And once again, right on the cusp of putting a solid lap in and then messes up the last chicane. And then we fast forward to the race. Yeah, it's completely his fault. looking back, it's quite a severe misjudgment because when I watched the video there's never really a car width. At any point where he is close,
Starting point is 00:45:23 there is not a car width. He's assumed that Oscar's going to pull slightly to the right to go towards the racing line, but that is an assumption and he didn't and Oscar is well within his rights to hold that inside line. And what's even more painful is that he had the overspeed. So I am firmly of the opinion. He's at least side by side or halfway past Oscar going towards turn one,
Starting point is 00:45:49 where he then goes into turn two and have the inside line. So it's a pretty catastrophic error for Lando. And if people are saying championship over, I still don't believe it. He's still within a race win. This wasn't for the victory. Had there been a 25 point swing, this could have been much bigger for his championship. but yeah, I'm going to lock in a two out of ten and he needs to reset and go again in Austria
Starting point is 00:46:13 and yeah, there are a few positives, I think, to take away from this weekend. The fans, a lot more generous. Gave him a four out of ten. Very, very generous. Very generous. But hey, we're not allowed to cook the fans. The fans are only allowed to cook us.
Starting point is 00:46:30 That's how the relationship works. They are the rules. And that is it. We are done here for the F1 driver ratings for the Canadian Grand Prix. how would you sum up your final thoughts? I would sum up that the Who is our P1 was not in the sheet again. That's true.
Starting point is 00:46:47 And you know I'm Ron Burgundy and I just literally carried on. Who is our P1? My P1, Tommy, has to be. Dinduland, Dillin, Dillin, Dillin, Dillin, Dillin, George. George was phenomenal this weekend. He's going to be my P1. Congratulations, George, on a beautifully crafted P1. Mine is Fernando.
Starting point is 00:47:06 No, it's not really. It's George Russell. Of course it's George Russell. is a brilliant, a perfect drive from George. Can't be anyone else. He was far and away the best driver this weekend, not even just the race. There we go, lovely stuff. So we'll say that that was your final thoughts, Tommy.
Starting point is 00:47:22 And we will see you next week for the, no, the week after. No, no, they're technically next week for the predictions, because there's not a race this weekend and then it's next week. Perfect. Good, that's great. Well, well-crafted, that'll see you very. soon. Lots of love. Take care. Bye. Bye. My chore is to
Starting point is 00:47:44 buy some sun creams, really hot. There you go. Nothing from Tommy. Just literal, literal silence. Oh dear. Take your clothes off. So I can put sun cream on. P1 is a stack production and part of the ACAST creator network.

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