P1 with Matt and Tommy - Canadian GP Driver Ratings: F1-to-10

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

After a stone cold classic in Canada, it's time for some driver ratings! Plenty were great... others, not so much.You can sign up to our Patreon here! You'll get access to exclusive episodes you won't... hear anywhere else, every P1 episode ad-free, full driver interview videos, early access to merch, tickets & more!Follow us on socials! You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Twitch, YouTube and TikTok. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. That is right. We had an absolute stone cold banger to put in the locker of F1 historical worldies. The Canadian Grand Prix providing thrills, spills and DNFs. And we have digested and we are now going to regurgitate. I don't know what we would we know. Our F1 driver regurgitating. Yeah, regurgitating.
Starting point is 00:00:35 anyway. How are you, Tommy? What a thought. I'm good. Yeah, trying to reflect on this crazy race. It could not be any more different to Monaco after we essentially just did qualifying ratings. But this one, lots of drivers' mistakes, swapping positions. And yeah, it was quite a lot. But it's a good thing. I'll absolutely take it.
Starting point is 00:01:02 I would never complain because my word, I'm still. or just overjoyed at that race. Oh, and you've even had a haircut to like celebrate. Celebrate. It's amazing. Wow. Looking very smart. Right, let's get into the driver ratings then and start with Kevin Magnerson.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Qualified 14th, started 14th, finished 12th. I am going to give Kevin Magnuson a healthy 7 out of 10. I feel as though he was a bit screwed over by his team after producing a lovely, beautiful start on the wet tires. We thought Kevin Magnison was going to be champion of the world at that specific moment in time. He was flying through making moves. And it was a decent enough drive.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I don't really know how he'd ended up 12th. I think it's mainly just because they weren't able to take full advantage of the amazing start the Magnuson had by not having the tires ready. So I think he had like an eight and a half second pit stop, which then puts him back in the back a little bit. otherwise I think maybe just maybe he could have scored a point but still KMAG you drove well so you get a seven I have also gone for a seven out of ten for Kevin Magnuson he was very unfortunate yeah he did he did a impressive qualifying has to be said beating Nika
Starting point is 00:02:25 Hockenberg which we've not seen a lot and then in a race where a lot of people are spinning off making mistakes, crashing. He was very un-kevin Magnuson and had a really, really good race. And it was great to watch him at the start, go through the field. Such a shame that the pit stop happened because if they'd have done, you know, even a three-second pit stop, you know, he's gaining a lot of time positions. And then it was so hard to overtake through a lot of the race. And we saw a lot of trains in the midfield that maybe points could have been achieved.
Starting point is 00:03:02 sadly not. I'm surprised he didn't mount a bit of a charge, to be honest with you, because he actually was one of the few drivers to pit again and put on a fresh set of medium tires, but still wasn't able to come through at the end when he pit on that final safety car. The fans gave KMAG a six. Shocking. That's outrageous. I was thinking about an eight, you know. Yeah, wow. I've gone for a seven. Scaled it back.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Nico Holcomburg, qualified 19th, started 17th, finished 11th. I have gone for... He's already changing his mind, that's crazy. He's thinking between a six and a seven. Which one's he going to go with? I'm going to go for a six. I'm going to go for a six for Holcomburg, because I think it's a missed opportunity for Nico Holkenberg,
Starting point is 00:03:46 and I think it's all come undone in qualifying because we know how good Nico Holcomburg is in qualifying. And in a race like that, disappointing to start so low down, because if he'd have put in another one of his... great collie performances and also had that wet tie gamble. It'd have easily been in the points and who knows where it would have been. So yeah, he beat Magnuson on the road, but only just they were like right together on track.
Starting point is 00:04:17 And I think it would, I think it'd be a little bit disappointed. I'm going to go for a seven, mainly because I'm feeling quite generous for the drivers that decided not to bin it in a very difficult changeable condition race. Also, Nika Holkenberg, I believe, was used as a bit of a device to slow down all of those cars behind when he was left kind of to sit out there on his own on the wet tires. Of course, that was a gamble in itself and could have paid off had there been another rainstorm or whatever, but there wasn't. But he was kind of used to help KMA be brought into the equation again. So I've got to respect the team play there as well. And of course, he beat his teammates.
Starting point is 00:04:58 So for me, it's a solid drive from Nia. just missing out on points, so it's a seven. And the fans gave him a six. Joe Guan Yu, qualified 20th, started from the pit lane, finished 15th. I am giving Joe Guanyu a two out of ten. A very poor weekend for Joe, crashed twice in practice. And you might think, oh, qualified 20th, finished 15th in a state. That's amazing. He was the last. He was the of the finishers. And I think he was the only one to get lapped. And that's pretty incredible considering we had a safety car.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Safety car. Fairly late. So it's just, it's probably the worst season out of all the drivers. And it's kind of going under the radar because he's driving in a dustbin. But, you know, anonymous race this, anonymous race that. We've just had a ridiculously mental race. and Joe is still finishing last. It's not, he's not getting the headlines of Logan Sargent because he's not, well,
Starting point is 00:06:09 I say he's not binning it as much. He just did his binning in practice. But still, it's really poor. Like, this is the only opportunity for the state car to get anywhere near the rest of the field. But again, last place. Yeah, I've gone for a three out of ten for Joe Guan Yu. He obviously managed not to bin it in the race, one of us did, but he was just just nowhere and it's just not not in good form at all like his his progress this is this is the
Starting point is 00:06:42 race like you say where he surely just got to deliver something a little bit of magic where we say you know when the I know he's not in a very good car but rain can equalize the grid a little bit and and things like that and it gives people an opportunity to perform but joe is just consistent at the back. And he's not even at the back at the moment. He seems to like have this gap where things like Q1 is incredibly close and then we have another half a second and then Joe's there or sometimes even a second. Yeah, he's on incredibly poor form and he's not going to have any hope of a seat next year if it carries on. In fact, I think he's just too far gone now. Like no one's going to consider him, I don't think. I agree as well. I think that it's a done deal. Unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:07:32 for Joe. The fans gave him a two as well. Valtry Bottas, qualified 17th, started from the pit lane as well and finished 13th. Gone for a five out of 10 for Valtry Bottas. Anonymous standard race in a Kixalba, but he kept it on the road, a lot better than his teammate. That car is terrible, but at least Bottas has shown something from it, but it's nothing to kind of really show. out about. No. I've also gone for a five out of ten for Valtari. At least he beat Sonoda after the small bottle that happened. He's off the back of the rest of the pack of the Hasses and whatnot. But it's nothing. You know, can't really slander him too much. I think he's sort of done okay. So that's why I've gone for a five out of ten. And the fans gave him a five as well.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Yuki Sonoda, qualified eighth, started eighth, finished 14. I am going to go with four out of ten for Yuki Sanoda. It's a really disappointing end to what was looking like a very lovely, another lovely weekend for Yuki Sanoda. I'm not going to give him a two or a three. I know his small mistake undid his race, but I am giving him a slight bit of lenience and also taking into account that he did. incredible the entire rest of the weekend.
Starting point is 00:09:05 So yeah, he's going to get away with a four from me. But such a shame. He was on for an eight or a nine. He was going to score points again. But it all came unraveling in only a few laps to go. Laps 66. Sad times. Sad times.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I've gone for a four as well. Absolutely gutting for Yuki Sonoda because if he'd have finished that race, kept it on the road and just finished in a P8, piles more pressure on Perez that Yuki's delivering and can show that he can I love it. Peres. Science contract. Piling on the pressure to Perez.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Yeah. It's so true though because we'll get into Perez later but At what point do we just been off the pressure on Perez and we just go, this is a launch trial situation at this point because it just feels like his seat is invincible at the moment. He literally does anything. Yeah, it does. It's very true. but yuki yeah a solid good weekend until a big mistake and it's really disappointing because
Starting point is 00:10:07 you look back and he maybe should have been boring and just settled for position i know it was just one of those moments at that corner we saw a few people run wide there as soon as you get off the line he was doing everything he could to try and um pass i think it was ockon who was stuck behind it was in a bit of a train and then it cost him big time so big shame for Yuki it was a big shame the fans gave Yuki Sunoda a five
Starting point is 00:10:37 Daniel Riccardo qualified fifth, started fifth finished eighth I've gone for an eight out of ten for Daniel Riccardo it was a very bizarre race for Daniel Ricardo because he obviously qualified
Starting point is 00:10:53 amazingly well then had this jump start and it looked like he'd completely thrown any chance of points away and we were going to be having the conversation of yuki scored load of points and then he's got nothing again like how has it come unraveled when he had that great quality but then he kept it on the road and delivered a good points finish which is exactly what um i'll be need so yeah it's a good performance from daniel maybe he needs to get slanded by jack vilenev every weekend to uh give him a little boost Yes. I've gone for an eight out of ten as well for Daniel Ricardo.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Yeah, that full start was potentially going to be the unraveling of his race, but because of the amount of safety cars we had and sort of resets, it allowed him to get back in the mix. I think he said as well, like he was running in like 12th at one point and potentially not going to score any points whatsoever. And then things sort of went his way a little bit. So yeah, I think it was a really solid weekend for Daniel. Of course, qualifying fifth place is one way to show.
Starting point is 00:11:55 up your critics. He needs to continue doing this and continue scoring points. We can't just have one-offs like Mexico and things like that, but a very promising race and weekend for Daniel Ricardo, so I'm very happy for him. The fans also gave him an eight out of ten. Logan Sargent. Qualified 13th, started 13th, didn't finish. It's going to be a one out of 10 for Logan Sargent for me. I'm giving him a one. He earned that one point by getting into Q2. Congratulations. You You're not getting a zero. But after that, just you wows us. Of course, he made that mistake initially.
Starting point is 00:12:35 I think it was lap six. Locks up, goes straight on, ruins his race, unless obviously a safety goal comes out, which it did. And then about 19 laps later, lap 25, just rides the curb too hard, unsettles the car. And very lucky, actually, watching this back, very lucky to not collect the leaders. the way in which he rolled back,
Starting point is 00:12:57 you then had Max Norris and I think Piastri or something coming straight through, or maybe it was Russell, coming straight through, like almost immediately afterwards. Could have been a Carlos situation where, you know, how he rolled back into Albarn
Starting point is 00:13:09 could have easily been the same. It could have. Imagine if Logan Sargent had taken out like Max or one of the leaders. Oh my God, that would have been, that would have caused a lot of chatter, let's say it that way. But yes, it's going to be a one out of ten from me.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I have gone for a, a three out of ten for Logan's sergeant, which is quite generous. But yeah, he was not a great race, but he was showing better signs. And then, yeah, he's spun it in the barriers and made a three for Logan, can I just ask? Is this like a three for what Logan's sort of benchmark is as opposed to a three just in general? Well, given Yuki a four, who's essentially like also spun off at the end. but I guess he keeps doing a lot better. Yes, Logan made two race-ending mistakes pretty much within 25 laps.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I'm trying to remember the first one. It was pretty much just after the corner where he spun. He locks up and goes into the wall pretty much and has to reverse out and then he's 20, 30 seconds off the back of the pack. I remember that now. It's a two out of ten for Logan's such. I forgot about the two. I forgot he had two.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I did try and tell you that when I was doing my grading. I was looking at it and I was like, in my head, he just ran wide, but no, I remember that. Oh no, he ran wide and had to reverse. I find it actually interesting that when you watch the highlights, Formula One still stick to like, no, it's going to be eight or nine minutes regardless. So like it's the same length highlights as Monaco and it's crazy like watching Monica, there's nothing to show. So they show like 20 replays of the Star Crash.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And then the highlights that they show for this race is like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. every single lap there's just something happening. I don't think this is even in the highlights. Probably broadcast agreements that they can't show anything more than like 8 or 9. Because Skype extended highlights out, don't they? Yeah, they do. But Logan, yeah, he did well in qualifying, which is a shame. I mean, it's too little too late, of course.
Starting point is 00:15:16 But yeah, two out of 10 for Logie because it's just shocking, really. Okay. The fans gave Logan a one. Alex Albon, qualified 10th, started 10th, did not finish. I've gone for an 8 out of 10 for Alex Albon. I think he had a very good race. Qualified well. His overtake was just gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:15:44 It was lovely. And of course, he was a complete passenger in the science spin. And yeah, points could have been on the card for him, but alas not. Alas not indeed. I've also gone for an 8 out of 10 for Alex. I think he was driving a fantastic race. He did the move of the season.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I am slightly convinced it was an accidental move of the season. I feel like he outbreaks, it was at Ghazley and was like, oh, oops. Yeah. Ricardo was quite late on the brakes and he was like, oh, I need to go a little bit deeper and then it just turned into an alpine path. Yeah. So then Ockon was directly ahead, not Gassley. And I feel like he's just braked and gone,
Starting point is 00:16:31 oh, I have to go for this move or I'm going to rear end the Alpine. So then I'm not taking anything away from him, but I just love how that kind of then just became the most incredible double overtake in changeable conditions at the last chicane at Canada. That's not something I don't think anyone expected. But then, yeah, very unlucky to be wiped out by signs. I bet he wishes that signs had stopped just a little bit sooner, but he did not.
Starting point is 00:16:56 and yeah, still deserves an 8 out of 10 because that was probably going to be points for the Williams. And the fans gave Alex an 8 out of 10 as well. Esteban Ocon, qualified 18th, started 18th. And well, which even with a 5-place grid penalty because the two stakes were in the pit lane, he still started where he qualified, which doesn't really matter, does it?
Starting point is 00:17:16 And then finished 10th. You know what? I'm giving him an 8 out of 10, Ockon. Good drive, very good drive. kept it on the black stuff he would have finished ninth but he's a nice guy just want to remind everyone
Starting point is 00:17:31 he is a nice guy he was chasing down Ricardo for eighth and I'm still considering this Alpine to be a dustbin so I'm giving Ocon a very good grade I think both of the drivers drove a pretty decent weekend so yes I am going to reward Ocon
Starting point is 00:17:48 with a high grade congratulations I've gone four and eight out of ten as well Oh I thought I was being spicy and you've gone and banged it in as well. No, I think, spoiler a lot, I think both Alpins did a very good job, even though that's not what they'll take away from the situation, because it would just all be talk of the communications in the team again
Starting point is 00:18:12 and how they don't like each other. But to say Ocon started at the back, drove a very good race. And yeah, the P9 was definitely on. there's a lot of talk about drivers and favouring certain drivers in teams and things. This one was not hidden at all that they're now just kind of backing Pierre Gasly because his chance to go for Ricardo was never, never on. So I see why Ocon was annoyed, but then he's kind of like, he's put himself in that situation now where he's fallen out with the team.
Starting point is 00:18:54 team and he kind of not helped himself in that situation. So it's hard to feel. It's very much a case of, what are you going to do, fire me? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So there we go. It was a good drive from Ocon, right from the back to get points in a race where, yeah, in a crazy race as well.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Yeah, great effort, Ocon. Well done. The fans gave a seven. Pierre Gasley, qualified 15th, started 15th, finished. I've gone for an eight out of ten for Pierre Gassley as well. Good drive as well through the field. He was on the slicks actually quite early, which took a while for him, but impressive for him to essentially keep on the island because a lot of other people didn't. And yeah, the fact that he managed to take that gamble when it was maybe a little bit too early and it's still paid.
Starting point is 00:19:54 off eventually because it's quite easy to you know oh it's too late get back on the inters and then your whole race is over because you've made another pit stop and then you're going to go back to dries later but stuck with it did a very good job um got points and yeah he was like setting like fastest laps at some points throughout the race as well so yeah good drive from gazley yeah gasley went very early uh he went on lap 40 and was the first of the runners to to make that that that gamble especially on the hard tires as well. So yeah, I've gone for an eight out of ten for Ghazley too. I think, yeah, both Alpine drove very, very well, despite their being incredible interteam tension. And I'm sure Gazley is very happy that Ocon is a nice guy even now. I'm not sure how nice he would say,
Starting point is 00:20:41 considering they were asking him to be let through many laps before so that he could fight Ricardo. So I wonder how that one's going to unfold for the rest of the season. I'm very excited to see. But yeah, both Alpins scoring points on a weekend like this is really important. So yeah, congratulations to both of them. And Gansley got a seven from the fans. Lance Stroll, qualified ninth, started ninth, finished seventh. You know what? Giving the lancy boy an eight out of ten as well.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Nice drive. Good weekend. And there's no way I can give him a seven out of ten if I've let the biggest good surprise go through for you in the podcast. So it has to be an 8 out of 10 or above. Otherwise, yeah, exactly. You now need to change. You can't say a 7 and also get a point in the podcast. It's as simple as that.
Starting point is 00:21:28 So yes, I think Lance drove a very good weekend, kept it very quiet. You know, we didn't see much of the Aston Martins, to be honest with you. They just sort of sat in that behind the front pack, but ahead of Formula B, which is kind of what we expected Aston Martin to be throughout this season. But they sort of fell into Formula B,
Starting point is 00:21:46 but then they kind of came back. this weekend with this crazy race. So, yeah, I think Lance drove a solid, solid race and some good points for the team. I'm going to go for an eight as well. You were going to go for a seven of you. It was so marginal. Actually, you just convinced me to do something else instead.
Starting point is 00:22:04 So, yeah, eight out of ten for Lance Roll. One of those drives where he was on the back of Fernando at the end, he wasn't near him at the start before, like safety cars and things, but exactly what he should be doing. You know, if he did this, more often than not every weekend, he wouldn't be such a meme and everyone bantering about how, you know, he's daddy's boy and he's never going to get fired and stuff. Because it's a very respectable job to finish behind Fernando Alonzo on the road.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Your teammate in the same car. In very tricky conditions when there's very talented, to drivers as well who've also, you know, made mistakes and gone off and things like that. So, yeah, it's a good drive from Strull. It certainly was. Let's go to Fernando Alonzo now. The fans? Nope, the fans.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I was getting distracted because I was looking at how much stroll was getting chefed at the start of the race. And, spoiler alert, massively. I can't believe I've let biggest good surprise go here. Lap 21, unless he's pit and I've not seen this, He's 25 seconds behind Alonzo. How have I let biggest... Seven out of ten for Lance, right?
Starting point is 00:23:24 No, well, yeah, your biggest good surprise is out the window now. But it's fine. I'm going to let it go because he drove all right after the final safety car. So the fans gave Lance a seven out of ten. Fernando Alonzo, qualified sixth, started, sixth, finished, sixth. I've gone for nine out of ten for Fernando Alonzo. Oh, my goodness. It was going to be
Starting point is 00:23:48 I feel like Alonso is a high eight and Lance is a low eight No It's one of those things where I'm With Fernando I'm always like Am I a fanboy? Yes Yes But also
Starting point is 00:24:03 In an Aston Martin he has maximised The result He was racing Lewis Hamilton For so much of that race The Mercedes was very very good I don't believe for a second The Aston Martin is anywhere near as as that Mercedes, yet he was in that pack.
Starting point is 00:24:21 And this is the Fernando Alonzo before the, I hope it is a blip that he had, those kind of three or four races where he must have to admit, you know, some of the worst form of his career, really. He's had an absolute shocker. But this is back to the Fernando Alonzo that just delivers the maximum what you can in an Aston Martin. And I feel like he's done that. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Yeah, you've, I can't give him the same as stroll now. I've gassed him up. I'm going to have to go for a nine as well. So, yeah, you've convinced me there. I think it is, mate, it's nothing special. It's not a weekend that you go, wow, Alonzo drove incredibly well. Look at all of those moves. It's a victim of his own success and what you expect of Fernando.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Because, like, when you look at what actually are the negatives here, Like, what is there? Yeah, exactly. Okay, nine out of ten for Fernando. I think he did extract everything he could out of that Aston Martin that does not belong to fight with the top three teams. So, yeah, well done Alonzo. The fans didn't agree, seven out of ten.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Go on Tommy, thoughts. Thoughts on that as a Fernando fan boy. Just shocking behavior. Fair. Shocking, absolutely shocking. Don't say anymore because they still listen to us. Oscar Piastri. Qualified fourth, started fourth, finished fifth.
Starting point is 00:25:57 It's going to be an eight out of ten for Oscar Piastri. Didn't quite have the pace of Norris at certain points, especially when Lando was clearing off into the distance. But I still think he had a very solid race, mixing it with the front, decent qualifying. And that's all you can really ask of Oscar. It's just a bit of luck, doesn't go his way as well. He was the car, and this is obviously down to him being in the race
Starting point is 00:26:25 and where he was positioned compared to Lando, but he was the one that was under attack by the two very fast Mercedes. And obviously came a cropper of that and was passed by them. But I still think he drove a very decent race did Oscar. And he just needs to, like, can he just be on the podium? Can he just have, like, some luck or like anything just to, I know he's won a sprint and whatnot, but I just feel like he always just slightly misses out on the podium.
Starting point is 00:26:51 podium and it's painful but it was still a good drive yeah you can argue like monaco he was fortunate because his pace like really dropped off at the end and then he was going to go backwards but he can't even take a monaco so he got his podium there it seems to happen um with with him um i've gone for an out of 10 for ask it was a very good drive uh not on lando's level but we know how good Lando is in the wet conditions. And yeah, he is very impressive. Like, he is such an impressive teammate to Lando. Like that driver pairing for me is so, so good.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Like McLaren have got it like nailed on with those two. I think they shared something that they've scored the most points between them, you know, the most points from a team in the last four races has been McLaren. because they're normally together on the road and maximising. And dare I say, the shift of talking about Ferrari can win the constructors, I still think they can. I know it was an awful weekend, especially with Perez's form.
Starting point is 00:28:00 But I think McLaren have a chance as well if they keep doing this. And Oscar keeps delivering great results in Lando as well. Well, now that you've said that, they're going to have the worst Spanish Grand Prix in history. Sorry, McLaren fans. Yeah. The fans also gave Oscar Piastri an 8 out of 10. Lando Norris, qualified third, started third, finished second. I have gone for a 9 out of 10 for Lando Norris.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Good drive, very good drive, but with Lando's high standards. Yes, he was unlucky with the safety car. Having watched it back, I think it's a mistake from McLaren. Thank you. Thank you. Are people saying it's Lando? No, no. they're saying like, oh, it was unlucky.
Starting point is 00:28:45 No, they... No, they had every opportunity to pit. The safety car came out whilst he was on the back straight. There's a stricken Williams. You make the decision. The teams go, okay, this is a safety car window. If a safety car's flown, you come into the pits. What were they?
Starting point is 00:28:59 They were sleeping. It's a big error from McLaren because I can... I saw some people doing the argument, maybe, you know, like people on the broadcast that are maybe a little bit more, less scathing than the likes of Jack Villeneuve and things that maybe like sugarcoat it a bit more and they're like oh well you know that it's come out quite late and but Logan sergeant's in the wall the whole time in your head you're surely going there's going to be a safety car let's get ready
Starting point is 00:29:26 just in case so it's not a case of like the the call came and no one expected a safety car we were calling there was going to be a safety car for ages so yeah not not good from a clown there but Lando drove a good race and he did make the odd mistake, fell back at the end, but still a very good, very good drive from him. I have also gone for a nine out of ten for Lando. Yeah, obviously came unraveling during that safety car moment. The only thing I can think of why McLaren didn't pit him was, oh, are we going to get a red flag?
Starting point is 00:30:06 Let's stay out for one more lap and just make sure that we don't. pit and everyone else carries on and then we get a red flag and then we lose position because that's the only thing I can think of that maybe they were yeah because I guess brand on was talking about red flag wasn't he and saying the car was it because it couldn't move the track pretty much so uh but still everyone else pit so it was a blunder from McLaren perhaps they just got in a little bit of their their own head there of trying to make the decision of oh is there a red flag or you know sort of thing so um there was an opportunity Lando could have won that race alas he did a but still McLaren every single weekend we go to, they are there.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Ferrari had an off weekend. McLaren haven't for quite some time. So very promising and they've got a great driver line up to boot as well. So yeah, nine out of ten for Lando and the fans gave him a nine as well. Carlos Sines. Qualified 12th, started 12th, did not finish. I'm going to lock in three out of 10 for Carlos. A weekend to forget for both drivers, surprisingly, but bad qualifying, didn't really have the pace,
Starting point is 00:31:17 and then spun on his own, and then wiped out Albon. So yes, it's going to be a three out of ten. Yeah, I've also gone for a three out of ten for Carlos. Shocking weekend, you know, I think where the Ferrari's qualified and the fact that they were very, very similar, showed that I think you can kind of take a little bit for the fact that Ferrari weren't there this weekend. You know, because if Charlotte put it like third or something and Carlos had been 12th, he'd have gone, oh, Carlos undelivered, but they were 11th and 12th. So clearly like something wasn't working there and qualifying.
Starting point is 00:31:54 And but then, you know, didn't make it through the pack, was not able to really do anything, which they're stuck in a train fair enough. but then to make a mistake when we've been praising, particularly the likes of Carlos has been so consistent in the championships for the last few years. But yeah, big error to throw away potential points. Not a good weekend at all for him. No, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:32:26 The fans also gave Carlos a three out of ten. Charlotte Clare, qualified 11th, started 11th, did not finish. Let's get this one over and done with, so come on, chop, chop, chop. I've gone for a five out of ten. Okay, perfect. Five out ten, two. Move on. You say that, though, what is there to say in terms of like the Ferrari wasn't there?
Starting point is 00:32:48 I think he got screwed over by the engine problem. And then even being on the wrong tyres, he was never going to be able to recover anything. So it's not like he's made a race-ending error like Carlos has, which is why he's, obviously a lot lower in the threes, but Shal, it's just one of those weekends to forget. Yes, I've gone for a five out of ten as well for Shal, just hindered almost immediately by the engine issue. Love hearing that over team radio.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Really, you know, brings me joy. And I was actually surprised that he didn't fall back further or at least give Carlos an opportunity to come through if his car was working fine and Shal was losing, I mean, over the radio they were saying half a second on the straits. Charles was saying afterwards he was losing 1.2 to 1.5 seconds a lap and all this sort of stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:40 So he was doing well to drive around the issue but of course it all just went to part. I don't even really blame Ferrari that much for trying the dry tires like what have you got to lose when you're a minute behind the pack? So yeah, it was a last roll of the dice and then they just were like well let's just bin it off and retire the car
Starting point is 00:33:57 because he was lapped as well. So yeah, five out of ten from me and a five from the fans as well. George Russell qualified first, Started first, finish third. I am giving George an eight out of ten. Now, some people might think, goodness, gracious me, started on pole. He was fighting for the win and he finished on the podium in a Mercedes.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Matt, are you good? Yes, I am good because that should have been a 10 out of 10 of 10 George Russell winning that race. Both Mercedes should have won that race, but they both fumbled the bag. And it was not good enough. Like, a crofty kind of threw the question of, does George make too many mistakes in these kind of positions. Yes. I think that it was very naughty of him to have just thrown that into the atmosphere, but he did. And I'm sure that went down well with
Starting point is 00:34:46 Mercedes fans. But it's true in a lot of ways that George threw away the opportunity to win. This was, and he might think, oh, well, he's not there every week. But this is Formula One. There was one opportunity, by the looks of things, at the moment, for Mercedes to win a race. They were the quickest car in a lot of the conditions. George was leading the race at the start, cleared Max by two and a half seconds and was looking comfortable. Then obviously when the tyre started to wear, that's when he was really starting to struggle. But into the dry again, he was doing great. But then he made that mistake, let Lando through.
Starting point is 00:35:18 He then made another mistake passing Oscar. It just too many mistakes. George could have won that race, hands down. I've also gone for an eight out of ten for George Russell. I'm even thinking I'm too generous giving him an eight. Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it? I am going to give him. I think it's too harsh to give any lower than an eight
Starting point is 00:35:37 because he has stuck it on pole and delivered when Hamilton really didn't in qualifying. Well, don't get a start on that way. Yeah, exactly. That's another theory, isn't it? We're not being told. Lewis is really stirring the conspiracy pot right now, isn't he? He really is.
Starting point is 00:35:53 But George, I totally agree with you, and I thought I was going to have to explain myself here for an eight out of ten, you've said the same that I don't think it's fair to say that it's it wasn't like it's been handed on a plate to you but it's one of those things where like you have to take that opportunity when it comes because it is so hard to beat Max Stappen and get any sniff of a win and we've been saying you know our Mercedes are under delivering how annoying must it be for George Russell that he's joined Mercedes just as they're like on a downfall and there he's now been given
Starting point is 00:36:28 a race-winning car and a very good chance to win. He's done a brilliant job in qualifying to put it on pole position. And it was just so many mistakes. I know it's a difficult, tricky conditions and things. But when he was leading, it was kind of like, he can win this, definitely. You know, got the start out of the way, had a nice gap on Vastappen. But like you said, you know, Norris passed him, and then he went off immediately, which loses a place to Vastappen.
Starting point is 00:36:58 so he didn't even stay ahead of a step in there, made another mistake at the corner and almost binned it exactly the same as he did last year. And then even when he had those medium tyres at the end and it was like, oh, he could do a Singapore where he's going to go at the end and on better tyres and catch people. Silly move on Oscar, I don't think it was a penalty,
Starting point is 00:37:22 but I don't know why he turned in there thinking that Oscar was just going to disappear. He just needed to bide his time and overtake him in the next DRS zone. Yeah. It's almost like, it's weird to give him an eight and then there are so many negatives and we're sort of like calling him out on so many things.
Starting point is 00:37:40 But it is true. Like, he's fumbled a win there, like 100%. I genuinely think, even with all the mistakes, I think with the last one of turning into Piastri, if he just waits, I still think he has a chance to win with seven lapses. to go or six laps to go. If he then just measures that, gets past Lovostka next time.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Because you just think of this time that he would have lost, not only turning into Piastri, then having to go through the runoff, then you have a bit of moisture on your tyres, and gain the temperature again. Then you had to overtake Hamilton. And he's right on the back of Norris come the finish line. Yeah. That Mercedes was rapid.
Starting point is 00:38:20 And of course, he had fresh tires as well, don't forget. So it's a shame because I would have loved to have seen a George Russell, Max Verstappen showdown with a couple of laps to go. My God, that would have made it the race a 12 out of 10. But instead, unfortunately, for George, it did not work. The fans gave George an 8 as well. So maybe we're all in the same boat. And we don't need to explain ourselves, but we did anyway. Lewis Hamilton, qualified 7th, started 7th, finished 4th. I've gone for an 8 out of 10 for Lewis Hamilton. It's the same as George Russell. He drove a good race. it reminds me a little bit of
Starting point is 00:38:57 was it hungry I can't remember if it was 2022 or 23 but George was on poll then Hamilton didn't have a great quality and they end up together on track I think Hamilton even beat him and this was a perfect case of showing that Hamilton
Starting point is 00:39:14 is like the better racer and that's where he's been much better in his career because he's finished right behind Russell when it didn't look like it was going to happen because he was stuck behind Alonso for so long and you can say he got fortunate that he got caught back up again. He was on the wrong tyres at the end as well but it all came undone in qualifying and now I know there's a lot of talk about it doesn't feel like in qualifying his tyres were up to temperature and and things like that but he did it in he did
Starting point is 00:39:47 it in Q2. I'm not one of these people that think that any Formula One team would sabotage their own driver regardless of how the relationship is ending or like, you know, he's moving on to a rival team. It doesn't make sense for me. But what I do think is that, you know, you reverse Hamilton and Russell in the positions, and you can call me a Hamilton fanboy of saying this, but I think Hamilton would have, at the very least, been P2 and challenged Max more than Russell would have if he'd have been in first because he's a better racer.
Starting point is 00:40:24 but it all came undone in qualifying, starting way down in seventh. He always had too much work to do. Yeah, that was a very big Hamilton fanboy statement right there. I am in two minds about what grade I give Lewis Hamilton for this race. Oh, goodness gracious me. Oh, it's so hard. I think it's a seven.
Starting point is 00:40:48 I think it's a seven out of ten for Hamilton. It's very borderline seven or eight. but he himself said after the race it was one of the worst drives he's done making mistakes left right and centre and I'm sorry if he says that how can I give him an eight out of ten if he himself says it was one of the worst races he's done
Starting point is 00:41:02 he had a race winning car under him I'm not so sure you know you were talking about if George and Lewis were in different positions Lewis was stuck behind Alonzo for far too long I'm sorry there were overtakes happening on track and Hamilton was stuck without the safety car Hamilton is finishing half a minute at least behind George Russell
Starting point is 00:41:21 So then to obviously get quite fortunate with the safety cars, bringing them, but they packed back together. I don't know. I just didn't feel like Hamilton was really threatening at any point, despite seeing George there very much, you know, making mistakes. And we've said that, and that's why he got an eight. But he was right at the front. He got pole position.
Starting point is 00:41:37 He was leading the charge at almost all times for Mercedes. So I can't give Hamilton the same grade. I really can't. It is close, for sure. But I'm going to have to lock in a seven for Hamilton. It's just a missed opportunity. He, I think he said, you know, they could have won. and he's finished fourth.
Starting point is 00:41:53 So for a seven-time world champion, is that good enough? Probably not. The fans gave Lewis an 8 out of 10. It was just for the record. And it's funny that you were so close between an 8 and a 7. The fans, 36% of people gave Hamilton an 8 and 34% of people gave them a 7.
Starting point is 00:42:15 So it was incredibly close between those two grades. Very close indeed. Okay, let's go to Surveld. Sergio Perez, qualified 16th, started 16th, didn't finish. It's a zero. Perez, it's a zero. I'm sorry, you got knocked out in Q1. Had contact with Gansley at the start, which I'm going to let him off.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Very difficult conditions to see. A very light tap. But then just made no progress at all in a Red Bull that has won the race. He was stuck just not making any moves whatsoever. and then just crashes. How can I give him any higher than a zero? I can't. I genuinely cannot even give him one.
Starting point is 00:42:57 There's not one point in the weekend where you go, Perez did quite well there, or he did something. He didn't. And it's really sad to see. Perez has to bounce back in Spain. He has to. He cannot follow Monaco with this
Starting point is 00:43:12 in a championship winning car. It's very sad to see, but it is a zero. I'm sorry. Yeah, I've gone for a zero as well. how could it have gone any worse, particularly after, you know, the new contract, a lot of pressure on him, everyone going, why have you done, like, why have you signed him? He's, he's been terrible. And then to have an even worse weekend than Monaco, because, yeah, it's qualified incredibly poorly, way behind his teammate, then made absolutely no progress. And then, even if he'd made absolutely no
Starting point is 00:43:46 progress and finish like 12th or 13th but then to have the embarrassment of spinning off causing more damage to something we discussed in the main podcast about you know he's going to cost red bull development um with the budget because if they're going to have to keep repairing car parts and repair his car it's going to cost more than just him scoring no championship points going to start costing that development race that red bull do not seem to be a bit of be clear. So really, really, really bad weekend for Perez. Whilst we're on the topic of Sergio Perez, Will Buxton put a tweet out, which I think we need to discuss briefly, albeit it has now been deleted, where he essentially compared Perez
Starting point is 00:44:34 is crashing and then driving back to the pits with Singapore 08 and saying that essentially Red Bull have decided that they're going to break the rule. essentially. I think that is the wildest statement I've seen for a very long time. Yes, Red Bull were trying to not cause a safety car. Perhaps they should have had a more, a bigger punishment for essentially driving a car around the track that's unsafe. But that's the rule. Like, if your car's unsafe and you decide to drive it around in unsafe manner, you will get a grid penalty. To then liken it to at one, the craziest moment in Formula One, the most scandalous moment in Formula One, the most scandalous moment in Formula One, Singapore 08.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I just find very bizarre. That was like thrown out of the championship stuff. This was, Renaud's punishment. You go and crash to make someone else win. And it was, you know, crash gay. It's the biggest scandal in Formula One history. And then this, you're like, really? Yeah, it's a weird one because I agree to a sense of what he said in terms of like,
Starting point is 00:45:38 I think what he was alluding to was the fact that Red Bull have openly admitted, come back to the pits so you don't cause a safety car. so they're almost like admitting why they're doing it like don't don't just pull to the side of the road but the Singapore 2008 stuff is like absolutely a ridiculous thing to to compare because it's not even remotely similar you know so it's way off the mark there you can you can argue that peris should have got a harsher penalty because it is you know it is a thing to basically admit, we're doing this because we don't want a safety car,
Starting point is 00:46:21 but so many people have done that throughout Formula One. You could argue that a driver that's engine, say like Charlotte Clare's leading the race, and Carlos Sites' engine blows up, Ferrari, like, you could say that in the same way, Carlos could decide to pull to the side of the road a dangerous place to cause a safety car, or he could go down the runoff area
Starting point is 00:46:48 and make sure there's not a safety car. That's more comparable. Do you know what I mean? Like in that sense. So yeah, the Singapore 2008 stuff's wild, and I'm not surprised he swiftly deleted it. The fans gave Perez a zero. So we're all aligned with that one.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Max Verstappen, qualified second, started second, finished first. It's a 10 out of 10 for Max Verstappen. It was a proper showcase. of just how good he is, it was, it was one of those drives where if you still think it's just the car, you will never be convinced. Because a lot of people at the end of the race going,
Starting point is 00:47:30 I can't believe Max has still won that after all that. And he reminds you of Michael Schumacher in that sense that in that Shoe Me peak era, you could have these absolutely crazy races, loads of stuff going on, all drivers making mistakes, things going on, and Michael Schumacher would still win. And that's exactly what Max is doing at the moment.
Starting point is 00:47:51 He doesn't give anyone a chance. And when his teammate is qualifying so far off, spinning into the wall, it isn't just the car. And it's just a champion's drive, basically. A really, really impressive. It's a 10 out of 10 from me as well. Yes, he got out qualified by 0.5.
Starting point is 00:48:14 0.000 seconds, we should demote him to a 7 out of 10. But, yeah, a champion's driver is exactly the way to describe it. He's inevitable. You know that he's going to be there. Even when Lando's clearing away, you know that one safety car is going to bring him potentially back into play. And it did. And as soon as he got into the lead, he was able to extend a lead out of a car that
Starting point is 00:48:36 we weren't convinced was going to be quicker than the McLaren's. And obviously, we spoke about the Mercedes and how they sort of slightly fumbled the bag. But Max is there. Max will be there when his car dominates, but Max will also be there when his car isn't dominating. So it's a lethal combination where he will just always be there trying to win. And yeah, an amazing weekend for Max and extends his championship lead by a gargantuan margin. So there you go. And the fans also gave Max a 10.
Starting point is 00:49:03 So who is our P1? I wonder, it's Max for Stappen for me because Max is the only one I gave a 10 out of 10. There was a close one, I think, for Lando. It could have argued. But no, max, 10 for me. Yeah, 10 for Max. Has to be max. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:49:24 We did this when we had that biggest winner in the main podcast and you're kind of looking through going, who's the biggest winner there? It is crazy, isn't it? In a race that had so much chaos, mixed conditions. That's normally one where you get like a crazy. crazy drive from someone that really delivers there's so many potential drivers that could have
Starting point is 00:49:48 got to turn themselves if they'd have driven the perfect race but they didn't and Max Verstappen just delivered again so Max Verstappen per you won Yay and there we go thank you everybody for watching and listening
Starting point is 00:50:05 to this F1 driver ratings for the Canadian Grand Prix of course we got a week off before we go to Spain which always is an absolute worldie of a race. So looking forward to that one. And Tommy, what are your final thoughts? Final thoughts are if Spain manages to be good, what a season we're actually having.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Yes. Now, I'd be very surprised, but I'm still looking forward to it nonetheless. Surprisingly good season. It's been so far pleasantly surprised indeed. In the meantime, we're going to Le Mans, which is very exciting this weekend, don't we? So hopefully the rain holds off, but it looks like it might be very good weather.
Starting point is 00:50:46 So cross your fingers for us. And we will see you very soon for another video. Lots of love. See you soon. And podcast as well. Goodbye. Bye. P1 is a stack production and part of the ACAST created network

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