P1 with Matt and Tommy - Everything F1 fans HATE about the new regulations

Episode Date: April 21, 2026

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Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. We've done the positives. If you've missed that podcast, we did in fact say things we liked about the new regulations. So go and check that out if you haven't already. Or if you want to end with positivity, then go and check that one out afterwards. But we have got a lot to get into today because we're going to deep dive into the regulations. And yes, we would have mentioned some things over the last three race weekends. but to kind of just, you know, put it all together in one podcast so that Formula One can ignore us. Tommy, how are you? I'm good, looking forward to diving into this one.

Of course, as always, when we ask the questions on these things, there's a lot more that people want to complain about, about these new regulations than the positive. So it might be a bit of a longer podcast than the last one. We don't know. But, yeah, we'll dive into it and we'll see what the butt counter is. for this one. Crazy, because if someone hasn't seen the first podcast, they now have no idea what you've just said.

Well, Tommy, you're so good at this. You're so good at this. Well, speaking of how good you are, right, why don't we start with you? So, again, if you haven't seen the first one, Tommy, you'll suggest one, I will suggest one. And then we've got fans who've brought in some suggestions and things they don't like as well. So, Tommy, why don't you begin with yours? Super clipping. Oh, we said it.

end of podcast. It's finished. That's a jump scare. That's a jump scare to just drop that word so early into a podcast. But okay, go on. Hit me with it. I mean, it is. It is super clipping.

The whole bad side of the regulations for all the positives that we've said in the last one, so much of it is ruined by super clipping and the fact that they're losing power on the straight. And I cannot get out my head that Max estappenap. said in 2023 that they would be downshifting on the straight and losing power and I thought well there's no way that's going to actually happen in 2026 they will listen to that can't happen that's farcical that's a joke I almost laughed when I heard that thinking wow they've not tweaked the regs yet

they've not kind of got it sorted and to actually go into that first race and see the pole position lap where they're losing power We'll get into the fact about them trying to hide those facts later. But it is absolute disgrace that a Formula One car can lose power on a straight. That's not what F1 is about. Yes, we've seen people saving tires and it's not, Formula One has never always been about in the races going as fast as possible and going flat out every single second. And that's not what it's always been about. but the fact that you can have a whole regulation that you've been doing for years and years and years and years and planning it.

And then the cars are losing power and it's just an embarrassing look to have the pinnacle of Formula One losing power. Sorry, the pinnacle of Motorsport. Formula One is the pinnacle of Formula One. Will Buxton. Yeah, this is just ridiculous. It is so infuriating. to watch it happen. It makes me annoyed every time I see it

because it should not be happening and it should have been sorted long ago when it was spoken about and seen in these simulations. But perhaps, Tommy, there was no explanation. There was no fix. And they have committed because they've brought teams in like Audi. Cash money. And therefore they've gone, well, look,

why don't we call it super? And then nobody will notice. Like this is the energy equivalent of lift and coasting the entire season. Like this is, but the thing is they're not even lifting. They've got foot flat to the floor. I mean, how depressing must it be for the F1 drivers themselves? Just be like, we're. It's literally powering down.

Like, it is, it's sad to watch. It's one of the worst things for sure about these, these regulations. Because we have, well, I've watched Formula One for 30 years. You, Tommy, probably similar. and everything I've ever watched has been about speed and has been about, especially on a Saturday, watching these drivers wrestle, whatever car it is. Sometimes it's a boat, sometimes they're nimble,

but it always came down to watching these drivers at some point driving these cars to the limit. And we don't see that anymore at any point because there is no reason to, because they are running out of power and therefore we're not seeing them at top speed flying through the fast left right of that I guess the start of the last sector in Australia for example

like we're not these are epic corners being reduced to as Fernando Alonzo said a chef could do it round these corners and he called them charging stations as well yeah like it this is it's insane you know there are again we've got a lot of things to get into in this podcast but but this one I don't have a suggestion for it.

Of course, F1 and the FIA, they are meeting to see whether there can be less reliance on the battery. But there will always be super clipping. I can't see a way unless they rip out the battery and make it 100%, or not even 100%, but a lot more to do with the internal combustion engine.

I don't see a fix for this. So, you know, they made a small tweak into Japan. Let's not forget. They made a tweak into Japan. the one kilowatt less within the battery that they could deploy. That made absolutely no difference.

Yeah, we saw a humongous accident. We saw no difference between the first two races and Japan. You know, it's not like we went, oh, actually, it was less noticeable? Was it, was it F? Oh, God, I nearly swore. I think it was more noticeable because the Olly Berman crash

actually caused such a huge thing that it actually made everyone really take it seriously is not just, oh, I wish they were going fast around corners. This is a huge safety concern for everyone. I will say, not particularly for Formula One's defence here, but it was Franco Colopinto's car at a much slower speed than we would have seen other cars round there, right? This was not a normal thing to have that speed difference.

So let's kind of, yeah, say it how it is, that it was kind of a freak accident in the sense of the speed difference being bigger than it should have been there, but it's still something that is to do with. the regulations, it's to do with, you know, if the cars do have a problem around there, George Russell had the problem around that exact same corner and allowed Charlotte Clare through. You know, so there are glitches, there are things that can go wrong with the cars, which can cause very dangerous moments.

So yeah, super clipping, what, we need to rename it. We need to rename it, because it's not super. What, what can we, what is the actual term that they should use for them? Disaster clipping. Yeah, fair enough. Oh, look at it. We're on board with George Russell here, disaster clipping into turn eight. Yeah, that sounds great, perfect.

Definitely not super. So my suggestion, or just negative, to bring to the table, and it is unsurprisingly to do-ish, kind of with super clipping, but it's just the constant talk about the battery. Had you not gone for superclipping, I would have gone for superclipping, unsurprisingly. But like the predictions, we can't go for the same thing. I'm not going to go superclipping, let's talk about it more. But the constant talk about the battery is irritating at the very least.

Because, and look, I know the commentary team have a very difficult job here because the battery is the talking point. Like, throughout the entire weekend, it's always about the battery. So I can see why they would naturally just lean towards going, oh, well, will Charles Clare have more battery to get back past? Because, like, if it was curs, you would kind of naturally bring that in as a bit of, of a conversation. Oh, he's got a bit more cursing. Or DRS.

And he would. DRS. So there are, it is an element, but I think, and it comes down to the regulations and how much prominence the battery has, that of course they're going to lean towards that. But it's so irritating to be talking about that rather than just the drivers battling, just the drivers going side by side. Because that's what I watched Formula One for is two incredible drivers going up against each other, not going, well, will one of them have more power than the other to get back

past? Because then it comes towards the whole motorway passing thing and the value of overtakes. So it's quite funny as well. Me complaining about the talk about the battery, but talking about the battery. So, you know, I get the, I get the, I get that it's probably the irony. Yeah, but it's big irony. But yeah, that's my point to bring to the table. Yeah, definitely, because I do feel for the commentators because they're in a very difficult position and this is something we had a discussion of during testing of how much information do they show on screen and it's a really difficult balance because as Formula One fans were absolute nerds you know people have been losing their mind over decimal places this year um not all of us though no the hard cause yeah yeah the

the the yeah actually this this is outed you as just a casual F1 fan if I'm being real give me the decimal points back right now. In a race, it doesn't matter. But yeah. Actually, one thing on that, did you see they did that in a pit stop? And I was like, why are we getting them in a pit stop? Three decimal places, but not the actual race times. They did that in Japan. I was like, I'm sure they're just trolling. I did not notice that.

But anyway, the constant battery talk is an actual thing. And maybe this is naive and people will shout to me for this. But I do think sometimes in life, ignorance is bliss. and you, but it's true because you're talking about... Stop listening to the podcast, there's nothing wrong with F1. No, no, it's not that, but it is a case of Charlotte Clare's move around the outside when he got past George Russell again was awesome to watch, but is it awesome to watch when you hear,

now he's got enough battery to be able to overtake it? It kind of kills that little bit of enjoyment. And it's almost like you could, you could take every single move in Formula One of like great moves in the past and going he's used his superior engine power here to pass or he's got fresher tires to make that move and you could like kind of dissect every single thing and yes it is a very extreme

thing so I understand why they have to talk about it but it's that balance of let's enjoy the kind of overtakes we're watching without the constant talk of like now can he do this with the battery Now can you do that with the battery? And they almost need to kind of avoid so much emphasis on it because we're getting what we've kind of wanted of the overtaking and the battling into like different corners. But it kills some of that enjoyment, doesn't it?

When when you're just kind of constantly being reminded. And I don't think that helps with this whole thing of Formula One where it feels like Mario Kart or it feels like cheap overtakes because you're kind of being constantly told this is only happening because X and I think there are times when that is absolutely necessary especially in this early phase of the regulations

when it is a motorway pass like that is you can't go what a move that was he's 12 car lengths clear going into turn one because he had better skill no it's obviously down to the battery but yeah the ones where it's closer China

where they're side by side the Ferrari drivers again carrying this season you know there were you know there was a lot of moments where yes just the racing needs to be enjoyed and as simple as that stripping it back like the HUD that they had you know the display of where they they they rode with the T-cam I think it was in Australia and maybe the other ones as well but there was almost too much information going on on on these displays even for nuts like us and then they stripped it back to just

kind of having like a battery thing which I think was much better even though they're predicting it, even though they're guessing it, because they're not allowed to show the actual data. Yeah, because the teams don't know each other's to the end. No, exactly. So, you know, is that the right way to go? I don't know. You know, should we all just be in on the conversation? Maybe.

But it's Formula One. It's not Formula E. Of course, they share all the data and that's what you can see in the broadcast. But Formula One is different and Formula One is not formulary, as we should probably remind ourselves as well. So, yeah, I think we're in agreement. and I'm sure a lot of people listening as well would just like to talk about anything other than battery. So why don't we move on to the next suggestion

from P1 Patreon member TVR driver. I hate that the driver's complaining and the discussion around the new regulations takes away from any enjoyment of watching the races. This is again going back to the whole ignorance is bliss baby a little bit. It sounds like everything's connected. Everything's connected.

There's two sides to this, so we're going to get the butt counter again, of basically seeing someone like Mousa Stepan or other drivers complaining thinking it's awful, kind of almost makes you feel a little bit guilty sometimes of when you enjoy the actual racing sometimes. Like that first race, there was all this negative talk about it

and saying, you know, we went into, we had a appalling qualifying and don't take anything back and said about qualifying. But when we kind of saw that first few laps of action, It's kind of like, whoa, I was taken back of like, wow, this is actually quite exciting, seeing them battling. We've got a battle for the lead. This is crazy. And yes, it's not perfect, but we're seeing that excitement.

And there is kind of a side where you can get so into the negative side of it that it almost ruins your own enjoyment. A bit like everything in life of just looking at social media and kind of making it ruined something if you like it. But then there's the other side of this coin where the drivers should be listened to. I think we want that level of we don't want the drivers perfectly happy because then we'd have them just absolutely on rails through every corner and that's something that we hated about the previous era because we said, I don't like the fact that the drivers are just on rails, they've got the perfect cars, we've got infinite downforce, how are we going to see lots of action and racing?

but we go into this kind of regulation here and yeah it's that balance of we want to see them fighting the car and the drivers are never going to be happy with doing loads of work and fighting the car and not having as much downforce as they used to but also they need to be listened to here because it's them putting their safety at risk as well

yeah and back more towards TVR driver's point of like you almost feel guilty for enjoying what you're watching because everything you hear after the race or most things, Hamilton was very complimentary when he was fighting in China and Charlotte Clay was saying,

I really enjoyed this. I don't think they were as positive after Japan, if I remember correctly. But yeah, you almost feel guilty for liking in some ways and that is connected to social media and connected to, you know, but I guess more so

and kind of where it solidifies that guilt is where the actual drivers are going, this is not right, this is not what I, you know, race for, if you love Max Verstappen, then you'll probably feel even stronger about these kind of things.

So, yeah, it's tough. And as I kind of said on the likes podcast as well, was these are early stages. So I think this is the worst it's going to be. These are the strongest, the drivers are going to, or like vocally, how much they're going to say they don't like the race will be now

because they want to see change. I think once Formula One and the FIA showcase that they are listening and they are willing to make changes, because we've literally heard from like Lando saying, I doesn't matter, don't listen to us. Once they maybe feel like they're going to be listened to, then we all can be in harmony again. But until then, it's been a big push from a lot of drivers and teams to make some changes. Next one comes in from Craig Tilly 95. The fact that the FIA have imposed a three batteries per driver limit at the start of a new regulation cycle and some drivers are already on the verge of receiving 10 place grid penalties

because they're already reaching that limit. Now this one clearly has not come into fruition yet because we've not seen our favourite drivers receiving these penalties but the minute we do, my God, we're going back to hating about the constant talk about the battery because once again I mean that is that is quite a strict limit to come into a new regulation set with. I know it's all about cost saving and everything else. Environmentally, of course, you know, there are good reasons behind it, but also if we have at least half a season plagued with penalties and drivers out of place

and all this sort of stuff, obviously it won't matter for Ferrari because they'll gain at least 10 positions at the start. but if we have a lot of these penalties coming in very soon then yeah we again we'll be going is there enough sort of flexibility here with with the regs to allow for some issues especially at the start to happen at teams so yeah this one I think will become more and more vocal because again we can only judge on what potentially is going to happen and once it does you'll be hearing about it from us on the podcast for sure. Yeah, I was just checking to make sure this was correct. And it is that basically one more fault for Lando

and he's already having a penalty and we're only three races into the season because you're going through all the batteries. It is crazy. And this goes back to why does Formula One need to be so complicated sometimes? and you do wonder, and this is going to be the first bingo card of just stick a V-10 in it with

kind of sustainable fuels. But when the best teams in the world, you know, the Constructors Championship from last year, both their cars aren't starting the race because of mechanical issues, other drivers up and down the grid going through batteries here and there, and just generally like,

the whole rule set being complicated for all these teams that are spending millions and millions of pounds. It just seems so unnecessary and almost like farcical because it's confusing for fans. If it's confusing for the boffins in the teams, how are us kind of noobs meant to understand watching it, even if we've watched the sport for years and years and years because, you know, it's going back to the whole thing in terms. testing where they were giving pages and pages of information about what's new to Formula One. And you're just like, I don't have a clear what's going on here. I can't take all this information in of like six pages of information on a TV screen.

Like it's insane. It's like a manual. And yeah, you don't want to see a silly situation like we were before where people are getting penalties three races into a season. And yeah, I completely agree. there needs to be some leniency of the teams to kind of understand it and be able to get it right. But you see why they're doing it because like you say, it's all the whole use as little parts as possible. And the teams did get used to it in the end.

I remember at the start of the new engine regs, it was kind of, oh my God, you know, there's penalties here and there and McLaren Honda having 85 place penalties for races. and then we got to the end of the area just gone by and you were kind of used to every car finishing and being bulletproof the whole race. Yeah, and also watch this space because teams before would cycle engines just because Landau's on his last one

does not mean the other two are completely kaput. Like, I don't know the exact insider information, I'm sure not many people do, but we don't know how easy or hard these batteries are to salvage and to allow for these, to be used at a later date. So let's see.

I think this is very much a TBC. We'll come back to it. When Charlotte Clare is getting a 10-place penalty in three races, then I will hate this more than anything, as you can imagine. Next one comes from Road Jong. Drivers should be in control of the car at all times when the deployment of energy is taking over by the software, e.g. resetting the energy or deploying when the driver doesn't want to deploy the energy,

they clearly aren't. This is a massive problem with the current Formula One. the thing that should be the center of everything is driver skill and that's why that is such a huge part of Formula One for me is watching the best drivers in the world show their skill and you want to know who's the best driver and there'll always be an element of Formula One of blah blah blah's got the best car

and sometimes that is the beauty of it of these debates of who's the greatest of all time and there's so many different scenarios but what we shouldn't have is the driver is just not an inanimate object but just sitting in the car yeah a passenger and and turning the wheel into the corners because when I found out the you know this one they're not controlling the active aero which is something they really want to do themselves that they don't like that control of it that they want the control of being able to like push a button and know when it's closing and opening it's all just done on software, but equally the

whole kind of deployment of energy, the fact that we were having situations where someone would go too quick through a corner and then the whole computer system is confused and doesn't know where it is on the track and then they're losing power here and there. That to me is really

problematic and infuriating, to be honest. The drivers should be the pinnacle and like the thing about Formula One that is the most attractive side of the sport and it's not if you're just having a computer control everything you're losing that side of it being heroes basically and and the the drivers working their way up to be the best in the world and I think it's really really bad to see the

fact that yeah the deployment of energy is not even being controlled by them it's done by software and I think that's just absolutely ridiculous to be honest that is one thing as much as super clipping that I really really hate about about these regulations where does it begin and end with the energy deployment just so we're clear on this because obviously there is a manual element to it because we see drivers depleting their energy at places to try and get past so is it more of a case of that there's software glitches like we had with george russell in japan that you're complaining about here just so that we're clear because my understanding is there is still a manual element to the edge. There's the manual element of them kind of doing the boost but a lot of it is

set up and determined pre-race isn't it of how the deployment is being used and the software is the thing that's controlling that deployment throughout not the drivers kind of being like I want to use more battery here, I want to use more battery there around a lap and that and they can't kind of change that and you shouldn't be I think the one thing we always complain about Formula One is that as the sport gets more

and more reliance on technology, it's something we mentioned with strategy all the time where the computer says that this is the optimum strategy but stick your hand out of the window and see it's raining you should have wet tires on that kind of thing you're seeing a more extreme version of that where

drivers should be having less reliance on computers and strategy because that's what makes the racing like formulaic I guess rather than it actually you know about because mistakes and drivers doing things and taking risks and that that is what Formula One should be

and that that's what is the thing that creates the most exciting race it's not every you know because if you go down the line of the software controls the car and you put this exact lap because it's the optimum thing and this is the exact strategy you should be using. That's what we all complain about that we don't like about the sport

because it's just so robotic. Yeah, automating. Yeah, it's things that... Yeah, I agree with the energy deployment. I think that's something, again, like, we all don't fully understand what the drivers are going through. We're talking about this from very much

sitting on your sofa, watching the F1 drivers. I think that the active aero stuff, I'm not too upset whether that's automated or not, because it's not an overtaking aid. And also, if there is an insane amount of things going on in the cockpit with the energy side of things, then we could see an absolute car crash

with somebody having a straight mode into a corner. We don't know exactly the danger levels of, is it like having DRS open with JAP doing into turn one at Japan? You know, we could see some serious crashes if that is something that the drivers have to constantly control, as well as being on top of the energy side of things, as well as everything else that's going on with these power units. So for me, I'm not too bothered about the straight mode, you know, corner mode things being automated. But yeah, I think from the energy side of things, and perhaps, you know,

it's linked with glitches as well that we're seeing these massive changes in speed, like we saw as I mentioned with George Ruswin in Japan, once those are ironed out, maybe we'll feel less strongly about how much of this is automated, how much it isn't. But yeah, we want to see these drivers be the heroes. I completely agree.

And this is something that will take a bit of time to understand and to really, really get into the nitty-gritty of what on earth these drivers are doing in the car. Who has said about the straight mode, overtake mode, wanting to be manual, who are we? You'll never guess. Well, Maxa Stappen is one of them,

but he's always been vocal about, I would rather be in control of everything in a Formula One car rather than a computer doing it. But the talk of this meeting that we've not heard anything from as of yet, the heavily rumoured where they were kind of leaking the information about the things that drivers are bringing forward to that meeting,

one of them was the fact that the drivers would control the active area themselves rather than it being done automated yeah i think you know going back to my point about not what sort of being worried about the automation i think one thing that would lean me towards it being more manual is if like there are ways in which driver's skill can allow for them using one over another late breaking becomes late active erode yeah like oh my god he had he had straight mode through turn nine? Are you joking? It would be like the DRS of when the Red Bull

Turkey Turn 8 and stuff. So if again it comes down to drive a skill, then I'm all for it. So yeah, let's see what they bring out from this meeting. But that would be cool if there is, again, things that come down to the drivers being the heroes of the sport. Let's go to another one from annoyed intern. Wow, even with the username.

I really despise the concerted effort to prop up the regs up by F1. Some of the commentators and TV pundits, just be honest, don't manufacture excitement. Now, annoyed intern, I get what you're saying. But also, if you are the lead Formula One commentator paid by Formula One or a major broadcaster, he is not going to say, Oh, it's a bit of a farce really, isn't it?

This is all... This sucks, doesn't it? This is a joke. They need to change everything. Everybody turn off. So, look, you have to... You have to have some understanding of people's livelihoods. You know, they're not going to say these things.

And I think we should expect that that's not the case. But that's why you have me and Tommy. You know? Because we say how it is, and sometimes that affects us. But we don't care because we want to give our truth. honest thoughts as two Formula One fans. So I do also understand though that it is irritating and it is annoying because I'm like, really?

Do you actually think that? But we know deep down they don't. I think what they could do to ensure that we don't get as annoyed is if they just stop saying it's really cool. Like you can talk about the racing. You can talk rather than going, isn't it quite fascinating the way that they've lost a bit of energy and losing a bit of speed. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Maybe it wasn't as extreme as that, but I have heard moments where I'm like, oh, that's so annoying because it's not cool. It's not fascinating to do with that. We can't pretend there haven't been great moves. We've seen some great overtakes and people will still say, you know, it's still down to a battery, but you've seen daring overtakes where people have gone around the outside into a corner or dive down the inside. Yeah, there are things to be hyped.

Yeah. So those are the most. where you need to be like, oh my God, that was incredible. But when you're saying it when someone just breezing past someone on the straits, but again, it does come down to, and I can, you know, relate from a very small level because of what we do and, you know, things can be taken the wrong way. And it's not always the easiest way to, you know, that the commentators are in a very difficult position to kind of call it as it is.

And it kind of goes back to the whole thing of how much you say. say to inform the user versus taking away from the action. But I think on this, there's also, you know, this person has mentioned the commentators and TV pundits. The thing that's kind of annoyed me the most is Formula One themselves and how they've kind of masked it with the whole TV camera angles and cutting away in certain places. And they've tried to, I don't know how much I believe of certain things where they've

kind of gone, oh, conveniently for the second race in a row, right where superclipping happens. There was a glitch. There was a glitch in the onboard camera, oh, right where superclipping was for the second race in a row. And then they received backlash, and then they post a video with it. And then they go, well, here's George Russell's on board. And it is the situation where, you know, they did the thing with the whole Speedmaster and they cut the audio just before it. We're not stupid. And that's what's disappointing is when a sport thinks that their own fans, are stupid and thinking that we can we can cover this up you've made these regulations own it you're you're very welcome to speak about the positives and not everyone's going to agree

but i don't like the way the the things of like these are your regs i understand the whole side even if it rarred people up of oh look we've got loads more overtakes we've got we've got this we've got this action. Look at this action between these two drivers. Look at the Ferraris going side by side. Share those clips on social media. Absolutely fine. There'll always be people that complaining go,

well, this new Formula One sucks, I don't like it. But when the bad side of it where they're trying to sort of go, look, nothing's wrong here. Don't worry about the super clipping. We're not going to show it. Oh, we're going to cut the sound in the qualifying lap and things like that. That is where it gets embarrassing for me. And you just need to kind of own the regulations and equally,

if that is a problem, then it's something needs to change because if the sport's trying to hide something from the fans, you can't do that in this day and age. Like people have the onboards and they see it and go, well, I've just watched on F on TV. I can see that it's working and stuff. The problem is, I think the main problem for Formula One with their strategy this year is not knowing where their Formula One fans are, like in terms of like the levels of Formula One fan. All of this social media cover-up stuff is going out to the most hardcore Formula One fans, the ones that will look at every post that will engage.

And yet the strategy is almost them putting it out to the world of, you know, the casuals, the ones that turn up on a Sunday, watch the race and turn off, don't watch it again until next time. Fine. Try and push that messaging on them. They might just be like, cool, whatever. I don't really mind that much. I'm just here to watch some great entertainment. But it's the ones where, you know, you're posting on social media.

And I just think, how can you not expect the backlash from your most hardcore fans? Yes, we are a small pool of the grand scheme of Formula One fans. We always will be. There's no, we're not kind of in our own little reality here where we think that we're the majority. We're not. No. But to not expect it is. It's a dangerous game of chasing.

They have to be very careful with chasing. casual audience because you know I'm not here to gatekeep Formula One I love the fact that I can talk to so many more people about Formula One. Mate, every time you go outside, you're like, I love it. People actually like being recognized again. Talking to about Formula One, I love being able to, you know, having grown up as a kid that no one liked it and now I can actually talk to people about it and stuff. It's great, but you also need to kind of think about that hardcore audience that's put them

in that position that are the hardcores that tune in every single. a week because when the bubble bursts these we're the people that are going to be coming back and still watching. Exactly. I'm going to still be watching. So you need to have that audience still there and you've got to think about the hardcores as well and what people like because we're the kind of lifeblood of the sport really and will be there

no matter what through all the complaining. doing a 40 minute rant about the regulations and then we'll still be there tuning in for FB1 at 2 o'clock in the morning. We sat through elimination qualifying. If we can sit through that, we can sit through anything where if you haven't seen it,

elimination qualifying, whereas literally one driver was knocked out every couple of minutes, every minute, and some drivers were just not on laps. There have been very farcical, very silly moments in Formula One. Sadly for them,

they can't just throw these cars in the bin and bring back the other ones, or not even bring back the other ones, bring back a better version. So we will see if we have a bigger list come the end of the season. Surprise this wasn't a four-hour podcast, but you also know a lot of our feelings from just the race podcast that we've put out. But more concise, more things we've, I think, explored today. Tommy, final thoughts?

Final thoughts? Kind of similar to the last one where, you know, you see the fact that once you kind of dive into it of the things we like, now the things we hate. it's very clear that there is a lot, a lot to love and all the kind of hate comes from, the power unit and the battery. And that's the kind of thing that if they can tweak that, and I really hope they do listen to the fans and the drivers in that sense and tweak it. Because I think Formula One could be an incredibly good place, despite all this negative talk about it. they just need to sort the mess they are out in and I hope they take it seriously

and the backlash from the fans and the drivers and everyone. So yes, excited to see what comes out of it and I hope positive changes are on the way. Me too, me too. I think Formula One maybe need to swallow a little bit of their pride, take a step back and go, right, what's the issues? The fans are angry. let's listen to them because they are literally the lifeblood as we say.

They are the ones that pay for the tickets, they pay for the birch, they watch the races. But then, yeah, more importantly, of course, is the drivers, because the drivers are the ones that are literally in the cars, although then you open up the whole book of some of them just want to be closer to the front and always have a vested interest in things. We'll get into that another time. Right, thank you, everybody. We will see very soon.

Otter-Lub, take care. Sweet dreams. Adios. Miami not too long away, really, is. still a few weeks but spring break boom Tommy will be in

Spring break New Zealand soon I will maybe the next time people see when you this is released they'll probably be in

New Zealand maybe are you going to take everything in your backdrop yeah the whole the whole thing the whole thing just to make

green screen it yeah perfect bye bye