P1 with Matt and Tommy - Hungarian GP Driver Ratings

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

Plenty of ifs, buts and maybes across a peculiar Hungarian GP - so what will that do to our Driver Ratings? Plus, stay tuned to find out which F1 driver has a cheeky listen to P1 after races to see what their grade is! Tickets to our Delusion Tour are running out! The P1 live show's coming to cities in the UK, Europe and North America later this year. Get your tickets here: tix.to/p1liveYou can listen to an extended version of every race review this season over on our Patreon! You'll also access to every P1 episode ad-free, early access to tickets & merch, and access to our Discord server where you can chat with us and other F1 fans! Click here to sign up now: http://patreon.com/mattp1tommyFollow us on socials! You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Twitch, YouTube and TikTok. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello everybody and welcome back to the B1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. It is F1 driver ratings. The last one before we go on summer break where we all just stop grading drivers' performances for three weeks. And then we come back kicking as we head into not. It's not exactly halves, is it? It's slightly less. Ten races to go. But I'm looking forward to this one, Tommy, ready to give our opinions and go.

go from there. You say no more until we do our mid-season drive ratings, which is literally the next. Technically, we're not actually doing those. That's mass. That's past selves.

That's our past selves that have already been roasted for whatever we've said. Exactly. So technically no one can say anything bad now because they've already said it before. Just blame the maths. Yeah, yeah.

Have a go at maths whilst you're at it. Old Man yells at Cloud kind of vibes. So let's get straight into it, shall we? Let's not mess around and begin with Gabrielle Bortoletto. started the race in seventh, finish sixth. Well, we're starting today with a wonderful positive grade of a 10 out of 10 for Gabrielle Bortoletto.

Phenomenal drive to not only score massive points, but an amazing qualifying as well. That's what we discussed before was like, okay, we've seen some good qualifiers, but we need to see that progress into a big points finish. And Hungary, of course, I mean, like with most tracks, difficult to overtake. So the fact that he put himself in a good quality position and also made the right strategy call was was perfect for him. You know, at the end, he wasn't exactly holding off people behind. Stroll was a couple of seconds further back and it wasn't like he, you know, it wasn't

the Bortoletto train all the way back to 20th. He absolutely deserved that and is a 10. Absolutely. 10 out of 10. Easy grade to start off. We said, didn't we, when Holkenberg scored. a podium for Salba and they got all these great results. So we're going to have to maybe change our perception.

But there's no way, even with the Salba now being a better car, that it's worthy of finishing a sixth place without a fantastic drive from a rookie as well, which we absolutely need to remember from a rookie whose teammate is one of the best performing drivers of the year and a very, very experienced driver and one that's very highly rated. So, you know, it's not clearly just the Salber because he qualified seventh while his teammate was 18th and then even made up a position in the race with a great start, overtaking stroll. So just really glad he's had that kind of breakthrough drive now where he's got big points on the board and excited. He's probably going to be one of the drivers that wish the summer break didn't happen because he's got great momentum. That's exactly what he said.

That's what he said he wants to keep driving. that rookie energy, eh? Whereas the more experienced drivers are that, I'm going on holiday, I'll be back, I'll be back. The fans, no surprise, gave him a 10 as well. Nika Holcomberg started the race in 18th, finished 13th. I've gone for a five for Nika Holkenberg. Disappointing race from him as the experienced driver.

Qualifying was terrible, has to be said, compared to his teammate again, yeah, really disappointing. and did make actually a bit of progress thanks to the undercut of dreams, but of course had that penalty as well through the false start, which I wouldn't class it as like an insane error that he had that start. It was just kind of rolled forward a little bit. I didn't even know it had happened himself, but still a disappointing weekend for Holcomburgs are gone for a five.

I've also gone for a five out of ten for Nico Holcombberg. a pretty anonymous weekend, it has to be said. Yeah, the penalty for the full start, you know, he watched the replay and you're like, did he, did he even, when did he, didn't really look like he'd left his gridbox, but he must have not left much of a margin between his tyres and the sensor and just the jolt of sort of moving into gear has caused him to get a penalty. And then, yeah, we thought maybe Holkenberg last, the first challenge was on when he was doing the undercut and lapping about three seconds a lap quicker than the train of cars ahead of him.

But still did a pretty good job to get back up to 13th. So it's still a five because his teammates showed that there was a lot more in the car available. So yeah, for Nico, I will leave you alone now for the flop. I promise. I don't promise. Let's see what happens in a few years time. But I'm sorry, Hulk. It's all my fault.

The fans gave him a five as well. Alex Albon started the race in 19th, finished 15th. I've gone for a five out of ten for Alexander Albon. I feel as though Williams are struggling quite a bit, especially around this circuit. He said he came into the weekend quite optimistic and then essentially just kind of got exposed around this track for the weaknesses of their car. And the fact that signs and Albon were both equally having reasonable struggles. I've obviously factored into the grades. So I'm sort of seeing Williams as a maybe an eighth fastest team,

ninth fastest team at the moment, especially around these kind of tracks. Still gone for a five because I don't think there was much more that they, well, then people are like, why do you give him a 10? You know what I mean? There's not much more he can do with this car and car,

but I can't give me any higher than that for a 19th. You know, back row start when his teammate was up in 13th. There was still a little bit more to be gained, and I've just gone for a five. Yeah, I've gone for a five as well for Alex Habun, very middle of the road race. Of course, qualifying was very poor has to be said, but made up for it in the race somewhat to get a whopping 15th, but when all the people are, you know, there's barely any retirement. I think it was only Berman, wasn't it, that retired, it's going to be

very difficult to score points at Hungary from that position. So, yeah, not the best weekend for Williams. They just did not look quick here. They did not. Do we tell them, something? Do we tell them what happened today? And the news that broke to us. I feel like we should. So if you've been listening to the podcast recently, you would have heard that we were interviewing Alex Albon for the podcast. There's a few episodes coming very soon, which I'm very excited for you to hear. We were buzzing off of it because I think it was a fantastic recording. And he actually made a joke halfway through when I think I mentioned, you know, do you feel like you don't get the plaud it?

sometimes when you've had an amazing race, you finish 16th, but it's a perfect pinpoint, you know, just an amazing race from their point of view, but they just had nothing left in the tank. And he was like, yeah, yeah, it does happen. And then you go and look at Matt and Tommy's ratings, and they've given you a four. So with that being said, it's a 10 out of 10 for Alex Albon for a P15. Congratulations. But no, I just found it quite interesting. Because he was saying it's such a personal thing that the drive to each drive at each each weekend it's not a it's not a flat line even when we think a team or car is fast it can change from from weekend to weekend and um yeah i did really enjoy that was really funny and and fair play to him as well for just kind of like laughing

laughing it off and you know showing that it's literally not that deep it's just it's amazing that alex albon took it better than people people on the youtube fans in the comments so maybe take a leaf out of his book. The fans gave Alex a five. Carlos Seines started the race in 13th, finished 14th. I've gone for a six out of ten for Carlos Sites. Sorry Alex if you're listening, but your teammates got a high grade. No, joking. He qualified higher, of course. Well, you're not joking. No, I'm not joking. It is a six. You've called him out. Yeah, it is literally a six for Carlos. Look, I know they finished together on the road, but Carlos put the car. in, you know, P-13, he was actually six-tenths quicker than Albin in qualifying,

which is a big margin, and would have had another place higher if he hadn't have been involved in that incident with Gassley, which wasn't his fault that allowed Holcomberg through. So I can't give them the same grade, have to give Carlos a higher grade, so gone for a six. I agree, I've gone for a six as well. Carlos was the slightly better performer this weekend, as you say, in qualifying quite massively outperforming Albon on Saturday.

And then, yeah, in the race, there wasn't much that the Williams had in terms of pace, but I agree. He would have beaten Holkenberg, and there's a massive 22-odd second gap between Holkenberg and Hamilton. So it would have been a P-13 finish for Carlos, had it not been for the contact with Ghazley. So yeah, I've gone for a six because a slight nod to the fact that he did better than his teammate. The fans don't want to give that nod. Five out of ten.

Isaac Hadjar started the race in 10th finished 11th I have gone for a six out of 10 for Isaac Hadjar off the back of a few races where it is very much like what could have been you know these had moments with his car obviously not being particularly like in Spar for example he picked up damage didn't he and lost a lot of time there in this one as well just he even said after the race that the weekend just felt so unfair because the other car, the other car scored points. I love that, not even Liam Lawson, just the other car,

when we've been on it the whole weekend. And it seems like it's, we know that there's potential of this racing ball car. And for me, you know, Lawson finishing eighth, not far off of beating Bortoletto and stroll, but to me, the racing balls very much does seem like that car that is as good, if not slightly better than what the Aston's and the Salbers show.

That's just my opinion. But that racing balls has been great, from pretty much the first round of the season. And you've got two pretty young rookies, inexperienced drivers in the car and maybe just not getting as much as he'd want to get out of the car, especially this weekend for Hadjar.

But I've gone for a six because it just narrowly missed out on a points finish when only one driver retired. Indeed, I've gone for a six as well, very close to points. But yeah, his form, his form certainly hasn't fallen off.

He's just not hitting those same heights that we saw right at the start where he was quite rightfully being spoken about as a really, you know, promising rookie, but maybe even the top rookie of the season. And, you know, there's much talk of, oh, Red Bull needs to get him in the car, but we don't want to promote him too early and stuff. And since then, yeah, he's kind of been on a few runs. So maybe he's deliberately holding back to not get promoted. maybe maybe that's the case the fans gave him a six as well Liam Lawson started the race in ninth finished eighth I've gone for an eight out of ten for Liam Lawson I think he's doing a great job at the moment actually Liam Lawson

he's really found some confidence again this is like a couple of the races recently this is more like what I thought would happen when he got into that racing bulls and be able to deliver good performances and be a lot more comfortable and yeah took him to be demoted to beat max estappen on the road but he did and held him off and very interesting actually that that he did hold max if there's ever a kind of if you ever needed proof that red bull have basically thrown in the towel with the championship leon lawson basically not letting max through for an extra point shows that

it is done. And yeah, he ran his own race and did a great job. I think P8 was a really good result. He did. I've gone for an eight out of ten as well for Lawson. As I mentioned, it didn't beat Alonzo Bortoletto and stroll ahead. That's down to qualifying. Similarly, like his teammate, it's very much a quality championship as we know this year. But that being said, he has been quietly going about his way and scoring points in consecutive races. And it's great to see for Lawson, the fact that not only is he performing pretty well now, but to have brought himself back from the depths of despair that must have been those first few races of the year at Red Bull is it's not an easy thing to do. You have to have a serious amount of inner mental strength.

And fair play to Lawson for doing that. And I hope he continues going from strength to strength. The fans gave him an eight as well. Oh, we're all in agreement. How lovely. Olly Bearman, started the race in 11th, did not finish. It's going to be a five out of ten for Ollie Berman, who of course was trying to to break the record, sorry, and continue his streak of P-11s. But sadly, he ran wide at some point, damaged his car quite drastically, even though not really sure when that happened, and then just sort of fell away. So it's hard to give him any higher than that when, you know, clearly it was, I don't think it was

to do with the gravel. That was the understanding that it wasn't to do with the gravel that had been kicked up. It was something else. But yeah, he fell away and sad for Olly Beerman because could have scored a point, could have scored two if things had gone his way, but sadly it didn't.

I have gone for a four out of ten for Olly Beerman. I, yeah, I think he, again, another race where he showed great potential, great qualifying compared to his teammate. um but sadly for him this is just kind of what what seemed to happen quite a lot to him as of making

eras here and there and you know him going off and damaging his his floor uh which meant he eventually retired and i actually even saw a quote from uh his team principal uh i only read it so i don't know how i don't know how it came across but basically alluding to the fact that it happened kind of three times during the weekend that he went off and damaged the floor, whether that was more just him kind of mentioning it or being a bit like, we really need to stop this happening. But yeah, he's got such great potential and I'd really like to see him get, because I can see him that there'll be one race this year where he gets that result like a Bortoletto, where you go, all right, this is his breakthrough now, but at the moment, it's just not happening for him.

okay so you're grading him a little bit harsher because you're deeming it like the damage of dnf yeah yeah caused him to dnf when we don't actually fully know the extent of which he has damaged the car and how much what it was his fault that's why i've gone slightly more lenient with a five because of the fact that it was a pretty reasonable weekend up until that point compared to his teammate the fans gave him a five as well estabana o'clock on started the race in 17th finished 16th i've gone for a four out of time of 10 as well for Espan Okon, all really undone in qualifying, disappointing from Ocon because, of course, he won here, didn't he, in 2021? It's a track that he's gone well at, but certainly didn't this weekend.

And, yeah, the fact that he qualified poorly always puts you on the back foot and, yeah, difficult weekend for O'Con. I've gone for a four as well for O'Con. It's such a shame. I really want to see him just get a few more good qualities in. It's Hasse are such a difficult team to read at the moment. But Falkon, yeah, a very anonymous weekend said that he was sort of thinking about

whether a different strategy was, was the way to go. But yeah, I mean, he was being passed by both Williams drivers towards the end of the race. And it just, yeah,

the Hasse just was not particularly good this weekend, although Berman could have scratched a point, scraped a point, even had it not been for damage as well. It's mad to think O'Con is top 10 in the championship. Is he still? Yeah, yeah.

And it shows that those races where he has got qualifying right, he's bagged really big points with things like P5s and stuff. Or just done a blinder of a strategy and started nowhere near the top top. Yeah, exactly. But it is crazy. I guess it literally only in spa. They got a double points finishing the sprint, didn't they? Yeah, and he finished.

Knock on was fifth there. So they've got big points on the board. but yeah, it's a strange season. Hasa having a really weird season. Very strange indeed. The fans gave him a four. Franco Colapinto started the race in 14th, finished 18th.

Ah, Franco, Franco, Franco. I'm going to go for a... Because it was quite a difficult race for Colopinto, for some reasons, his own fault, other reasons not. I'm going to go for a 5 out of 10 for Franco. I think he showed some sort of potential, but sadly lost almost all of that at the start

by dropping four positions and then, yeah, I think he had two seven plus second pit stops, which of course screws his race even more. But at the same time, you can't be undoing all of your work on lap one and then expecting to get any kind of good result at the Hungarian Grand Prix of all the three

of all the tracks. So it's a shame because there have been glimmers of potential like, okay, Franco, out qualifying Ghazly,

interesting. I mean, still finished ahead of Gasly in the end, but that's because of Ghazley's penalty.

So yeah, just a, not a clean race at all from Alpine's side and Franco's pit stops, but he was never on for points, so.

I've gone for a four out of ten for Franco Colopinto. A great qualifying has to be said, you know, up in 14th, puts you in a great position at Hungary

where it's difficult to overtake. But his race, all went wrong at that start. And yes, he was unlucky in the pit stops and things, but it was all undone by a bad start, then also made a mistake that let Gassley through at one point. And yeah, just difficult because qualifying should have been

that moment where he could have got a good result. Still finished head of Gassley, of course, but one to forget still. The fans gave Franco of four. Pierre Gazley, started the race in 16th, finished 19th. I've gone for a three out of ten for Pierre Gasly, a really, really poor weekend from Gasly. After we've been saying what a great job he's been doing in the Alpine and delivering results that shouldn't be where the Alpine,

we kind of think they are, this was one where just a complete weekend to forget, really poor qualifying in the race got a penalty for contact with science as well which ended up you know dropping him behind his teammate and just a really really poor weekend for Gasly I've also gone for a three out of ten for Gasly yeah completely out of sorts for Pierre didn't expect him to be outqualified by Franco

considering the momentum he's had on his side of the garage and then yeah I have to downgrade him as well as you mentioned, for the signs contact. It definitely was deserving of a penalty. And, yeah, Alpine just need to control, alt-delete, and just remove any existence of memory of the Hungarian Grand Prix for them, because that was pretty awful indeed.

They were fighting a red bull, so on paper, that was a great race. If people had no context. No context. Alpine, they're living life. Alpine have been fighting for the podium. The fans gave Pierre a three. Lance Stroll, started the race in sixth,

finished seventh. I've gone for a nine out of 10 for Lance Stroll. I think he is fully deserving of an excellent grade this weekend to put in a brilliant qualifying and then to back it up as well with the seventh place. Yes, he didn't beat Fernando Alonzo, but he also wasn't a million miles away from him at the end, around eight seconds, I think it was, to Fernando. And obviously missed out with Bortoletto, but Aston Martin, you know, you're having to rejig your brain to literally last time out in Spa where they were on the back row of the grid.

and then you come here and you go, what's going on? Has Adrian Nui literally just gone, no, no, no, that's not how we do it. That's how we do it. And all of a sudden it works. I don't think it's as easy as that. But Lance had a really good weekend. And I'm treating this similarly to if the ninth or tenth fastest team popped it in for some very good points. So, well done, Lance.

I've gone for four and eight out of ten for Lance Stroll. Um, it's very close to a nine. Uh, I think he's done off. You better not be given your goat 10 then. You better not be given your go 10. We're about to find out. Um, look, he, of course, you know, finished behind his teammate that the potential of that car was fifth.

Seventh, of course, isn't bad, but it's still two places lower than, than it should be. And, uh, yeah, a good performance, but, uh, got a downgrading for being behind. his teammate and also the fact that he lost that place to Bortoletto as well. Okedokey, the fans agree with you. They've gone for an eight out of ten for Lance Stroll. Fernando Alonzo started the race in fifth, finished fifth. I've gone for a ten for Fernando. Of course I have. Why are you surprised? I'm not surprised in the slightest. He maximised everything in qualifying and the race. he you know managed to be one-tenth off a pole position

which apparently is fifth these days and then yeah didn't bring that about Lancet did you he was also one-tenth off pole yeah he was but he also finished two places by in Fernande no no I'm just saying yeah yeah saying Fernando was one-tenth off pole like my guy Lance was also one-th he was 1.2 actually don't know why I said my guy Lance things but look he he drove an absolutely phenomenal race astoned martin looked good this weekend and for him to just deliver the absolute maximum that he could get from that car

at 44 years of age we're having so many talks about other drivers up and down the grid you know certain lewis hamilton talking there's so much conversation about Oh, could it be age and stuff? And there's Fernando, you know, rocking up to the Angaro Rig up 44 years old and delivering an amazing result. Exactly. I have to see it from Fernando. I've also gone for a 10 out of 10 for Fernando. No surprise there.

Absolute maximum out of the car. A phenomenal result. I put him as good surprise. I think I may even deserve two points for that in the main race podcast. But obviously, we're Michael Mashing this. Of course. But yeah, just brilliant to see. This is the Fernando Alonzo.

I want to see. He hasn't got probably many years left in Formula One, we're being honest. So I need more of this. I'm sorry, mate. I mean, the fact that he's even in Formula One now is ridiculous. So yeah, so just be grateful. But yeah, it's absolutely a 10 out of 10 performance.

Nothing to downgrade him on. The fans gave him a 10 as well. Kimmy Antonelli started the race in 15th, finished 10th. Kimmy Antonelli is receiving a 5 out of 10 from me. He's still nowhere near where he needs to be at the moment. You know, his qualifying was obviously a disaster. To make it back up to 10th? Yeah, fair enough.

Decent drive around Hungary to make up those positions. But these driver ratings are basically. on, you know, they're not based on the fact that he's gained five positions in the race. It's based on a weekend performance. And Mercedes were the second fastest car, obviously, with LeClaire's issues, obviously, taking that into account. Russell finished third. And Antonelli was fighting the racing balls and the other Ferrari. And nowhere near George Russell this weekend. And if we're talking about potential of the car, then we have to say that Kimmy was not near to that performance. Yes, he scored

a point, but really, like, that's, that's not the Kimmy Antonelli that we expect to see. You know, we've seen much, much better from him this year. And I really hope in the last 10 races, he can, he can pick it back up, but I have to go for a five. Yeah. I was having an hour in between a five and a six, but you've convinced me there that it is a five. It's, is close. He's obviously got a hard fought point, but you have to look at what his teammates doing even as a rookie uh antonelli being a rookie when your teammate is in that lead battle is a poor weekend of course you know the to go out in the session that he did but also have the track limits thing which put put him even further down into 15th is always going to make a race

at the hungara ring very difficult uh and yeah unlike bolterlato he is one that absolutely needs the summer break, relax more, have a complete reset and hopefully return to that form that we saw at the start of the season. We hope so. We want to see a smiling Kimmy Antonelli, that's for sure. The fans gave him a six. George Russell started the race and fourth, finished third. I have gone for a nine out of ten for George Russell. It was a very George Russell race of doing less and getting more, which is, I know, a meme that many people, have mentioned about his career but he delivered a podium finish when to be you know no one was the McLaren's were were mighty in the race of course and he he got that that move done on LeClair eventually even though there was some questionable wheel to wheel racing of course um but yeah made the move got the podium and uh yes a good good result for

from George Russell again after I think yeah a bit of a bit of a tough friend himself and Mercedes looked a little bit off but worked out here it certainly did I have gone for a nine out of ten for George Russell as well I think it was a really good weekend from him to get ahead of Lando at the start and using that presence of mind to then try and get Fernando ahead as well and sort of that you know that sort of racecraft is is brilliant from from George because obviously it worked for a few laps until Landau of course came through. But yeah, I think George did a really good job. Yeah, nowhere near the McLaren's, but from as you mentioned, Tommy, where they have been,

where Mercedes have been struggling to put it back on the podium, it's a brilliant result from George. And yeah, you hear sort of things in the interviews of them going, oh, is this the time now that they'll sign the contract? It wasn't a breakthrough performance. It's the third place. Tell that to Dr. Survive when they frame a whole. episode around the Hungarian Grand Prix and gorgeous podium. This was the moment they signed him. They knew he was the talent.

So yeah, it's a nine from me. The fans gave him a nine as well. Yuki Sonoda started the race from the pit lane, finished 17th. It's a three out of ten for Yuki Sonoda. I don't want to talk about it anymore. I just, I really don't. It's control C, control V. he did have damage in the middle of the race

which he said wasn't in his control but it's not as if he was in any kind of contention just running at the back once again starting from the pit lane good luck there's no chance of you getting through

but the reason he started from the pit lane and took extra pieces parts was because he was out in Q1 so I think we just have to accept this is what's going to happen now for Yuki for probably the rest of the year He just doesn't have the confidence.

We were speaking actually to Alex as well. I know we're kind of touching upon the Alex podcast that we did, but it's literally fresh in my mind from talking to him today, and I find it fascinating. Talking about the setups and what Alex learned from Max Verstappen and how, you know, there's basically the car's on a knife edge, and that this is clearly something that Yuki can't adapt to as well. And these are the results that we're seeing.

Yeah, I've gone for a four out of ten Fiki, know I think is incredibly unlucky actually in qualifying to be a 10th and a half off max, which is the closest he's been in a in a while, but it's still not good, obviously, to go to go out of it. And then you start from the pit lane, you're always going to be in trouble, maybe a bit more of a positive sign that he had that decent race in Sparum was unlucky and then had a decent qualifying, but I guess the result obviously didn't look great on paper.

Decent qualifying of 17th is... Yeah, but to be a 10th and a half off max, if he does that the next race, I think it's enough better than we've seen ages. Don't get me wrong, it's not a great result for him, but it's a small positive. A tiny one.

Very tiny ones, yes, for sure. The fans gave you key a three. Max Verstappen started the race in eighth, finished ninth. Tommy is trying to take off his Vestappen. I really am. This is so difficult because it's very difficult. I'm going to go for a seven because the, yeah, he was on. The strategy didn't work for him, of course.

Still not a great race than what we've seen from from Vastepen. We saw great moves though at the start. And the reason it's so difficult is because you're kind of having to shift your mindset of the Red Bull now and where they are. And I totally understand that some people may want to give Max, you know, even like a five out of ten here and think, oh, it's, you know, ninth in a Red Bull, that's terrible. But you can see the comments already. Yeah, I can as well. But it's opinion. and his teammate is 17th so you know I can't I can't give him like one higher than this

teammate for finishing way higher and qualifying way higher so really difficult one to grade the I just just think that Red Bull was was not made for the Hungaro ring and very much you kind of saw a race there where it did feel like that car was just in the in the midfield has to be said. You know, he was just racing Salbers and Aston Martins, which is a crazy thing to think about. Yeah, we finally saw an example of when Max

can't even tame the Red Bull. That's what happens. I've gone for a six out of 10 for Max. Can't give him any higher than that for a ninth place. And it is a poor weekend. It is a poor weekend. The fact that Max was struggling in the Red Bull, the reason

that we grade him so highly usually is because he can figure out a setup with the team that gets that car into a good window. They didn't find it. Yeah, he put some good moves on, but that was down the field on a different strategy coming through on a two stop.

But that being said, yeah, it has to be a six out of ten from me. The fans gave him a six as well. I'm going to change mine to a six for Max. You convinced me. I think I had raised... Yeah, I had raised tinted glasses. You said about the moves.

I think I was just like enjoyed the moves at the start, but... I bet you do. I did. It was nice to see people actually overtaken. Well, too late, Tommy, because they've already commented saying, I can't believe Tom Bellen was given him a seven. This is ridiculous.

I've changed for mine. Okay, all right. Tommy's gone for a six the same as I have for Max Verstappen. Lewis Hamilton started the race in 12th, finished 12th. Oh, Lord, this one, this one's difficult. This one, I had originally written down a five. Do I lock in a five for Lewis Hamilton? because is it worse?

It might well be worse. Is it, oh, it's so hard. Yeah, it's going to be a four out of ten for Lewis Hamilton. Not a good weekend, as we know, a poor qualifying, a poor race as well. Charlotte, Claire was literally on pole position

and was challenging for the win until tire pressure gate or whatever we want to call it gate. So, yeah, a really, really poor weekend from Hamilton, sadly. And then he's stuck in the traffic, stuck in, you know, just this horrible situation. But also, you do expect more from Hamilton in this situation where he started 12th. You go, he's going to finish in the points.

He'll find a way. But he didn't find a way. He literally made no positions up from his qualifying. And he said it himself after qualifying. He's useless. He knows that there's a lot of gains that need to be made here in this rivalry with Charler-Clau. had moments where he's been great and looked on par with LeClaire, but this weekend he was

quite a way off it. I've gone for a three for Lewis Hamilton. I think it's bad, in my opinion, it's bad enough for a three out of ten when he himself is saying it's time to replace the driver, you know, he's not had a good weekend. When your teammates on pole position and you're not even making it into Q3, it's incredibly poor from, you know, a driver that we know how good he is. I think, you know, arguably one of, if not the biggest kind of gaps between teammates that we've seen, yeah, like when Lecler in the race as well, you know, literally LeClau was fighting for

the win at the front and Hamilton made absolutely no progress. At a track he loves, you know, I said I thought he was going to be the good surprise. It certainly was not not the case. Yeah, I hope after the summer break that we see the kind of old Lewis back because it's not fun to watch. No, not fun to watch at all. You want to see Hamilton fighting at the front? I certainly do. So yes, not good this time, but maybe the summer break is exactly what he needs.

The fans gave him a four. Charles LeCler started the race in first, finished fourth. I've gone for a nine out of ten for Charlotte. Aler, another race has to be said, where there's probably many, many a drive ratings over the last few years that reads, started first and finished third, fourth, fifth. But it doesn't tell the story again. No one asked. No one asked.

It doesn't tell the whole story of kind of what's happened in that race. And it's nothing on him he did everything he could, but the Ferrari, just wasn't able to to deliver you know he wasn't didn't have the machinery at the end of the race did what he had to do of fantastic you know unbelievable pole position stayed in the lead um but unfortunately dropped back um it's it's it's weirdly almost a 10 um but he is also 50 seconds off the lead and i know i know that a lot of that is his car but probably downgrade him as well for the way he kind of fought against Russell, I think, was far too. There's some frustration there.

Normally, LeClaire, I think, is one of if not the best wheel-to-wheel drivers, but that was very naughty indeed, the way he kind of defy. Do you say he was 50 seconds off the lead? That's a bit harsh. It's about 35. 42, sorry. 42, whatever it was. I think he chilled out, though, because on lap 70, he was 36 seconds,

so I think he may have got out and pushed the car over the line, but I've gone for a nine out of ten as well for Charlotte. I'd love to be able to argue a ten, but he nearly shoved George Russell into the turn one wall. So didn't like the defensive move that Charles pulled there, clearly borne out of frustration, but that's not a, you know, that's not, you don't, you say, oh, well, I'll give him a ten anyway

because he's a bit frustrated. That was a mistake, and it was something that could have cost him more, but Alonzo was half a decade behind. Apart from that, it was a 10-worthy performance, the entire way through the weekend. He got poll marginally. And I said this perhaps in the quality podcast. Looking back to Hamilton and the whole,

oh my God, Charles on pole, Hamilton's down in 12th. If LeClair had literally been 0.128 of a second slower than he was in qualifying, he was a started sixth, and we probably wouldn't have been speaking about this Ferrari difference much at all. That just shows the fine margins in this sport. But LeClair was on the right side of those. fine margins and did get poll and then surprised all of us by being it really quick in the race as well until the last stint which I am now completely convinced was a plankware issue like there's no

doubt in my mind now it makes so much sense as to why shal was arguing about the fact of oh you know why didn't you let me manage it I would have done it a much better way and this that and it just feels as though fry we're like risk it for the chocolate biscuit shal we'll be all right and then the last didn't have gone we're screwed yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's that. that plank be wearing, bro. I think we need to put another 10 PSI in the Pirelli's and raise it off the ground. Yeah, exactly. They could say all they like in interviews and stuff and it is very much, it will be opinion.

And Ferrari, because Ferrari will never come out and say, this is the reason. Of course they won't. But for me, that definitely adds up. It makes sense, doesn't it? How Charles was so quick in the race. well. We didn't expect him to have the race pace and all of a sudden Ferrari seemed like they were a car that could genuinely challenge McLaren. And you could see the plank's scraping and it kicking up dust all the time and stuff. So yeah, as I said in best reactions, they should

have just, they should just got the W and then I'd have taken the disqualification on the chin because I just needed that elation. But sadly, we did not get it. The fans gave Charlecler a nine as well. Oscar Piastri started the race in second, finish second. I've gone for a nine out of for Oscar Piastri. He was on the wrong side of the fine margins just behind Charle-le-Claire in P2. He did everything he needed to do, really, in terms of in the race

and the two-stop that McLaren had decided to go for, which on paper was supposed to be the better strategy. And, you know, we'll get onto Lando and his performance. But from Oscar's side, I think it was a really good drive. It was a great drive from both McLaren drivers, and that's why we had such a close finish at the end with two different strategies. But yeah,

I think Oscar knew that he'd done pretty much everything he could as well, positive after the race. But yeah, there's not much to really downgrade Oscar apart from obviously missing out on pole and not being able to get the lead early on. But apart from that, yeah, it has to be a nine. Yeah, I've gone for a nine out of ten for Oscar Piazsche as well. At amazing pace, you know, quick, quick,

quicker of the McLaren drivers in qualifying by a very, very, very small amount, of course, but did everything right in the race other than the fact that his teammate took a risk, which we'll talk about later, and it paid off. Despite his amazing pace, I can't give him a 10 because I know it was incredibly hard to pass, but I can't give him a 10, and that would have been reserved for if he had made that move on Lando even though I can appreciate it was going to be

incredibly difficult with how the Hungarian ring is but it's still a great race from Oscar Piastri The fans gave Oscar a nine as well and finally Lando Norris started the race in third, finished first

I've gone for a nine for Lando Norris it's a really weird a situation where I think there's almost in a weird way like I can't give either of the McLaren drivers a better grade than the other because they had two very different races and it's unfair to say Lando was so, so lucky and, you know, had nothing to be part of because he made that strategy happen. the reason it can't be a 10 is because you know qualified third

was allowed to cut he got into that position because he made a bad a poor start which dropped him back but then he deserves that credit for then making the strategy happen so yeah I could not pick between the two McLaren driver grades because they both did very different things

and then were basically basically locked together at the same part of the track at the end. I have gone for a 9 out of 10 for Lando Norris as well. Complete agreement. The qualified third, very, very close in qualifying, as we know. Didn't have a poor start in the sense of the getaway. And perhaps it's slightly unfortunate in terms of the car positioning he'd gone for. But at the same time, at the Hungarrow, you know that cars are going to swing around the outside into term one.

So car positioning, perhaps if Lando could go back, he would decide to go to the racing line and the outside line rather than sort of being pinched on the inside, which cost him not one but two positions. So that has to have some effect on his grade. On the flip side of that, phenomenal tire management from Lando, he pulled off a brilliant race similar to what Oscar did in Spa. They both have had great tire management races in the last couple of events. And for Lando, he was not given that race. I will not hear, and I will not agree to even the tiniest amount that McLaren gave him that victory or that they gave him preferential treatment because they did not. They are two teams within McLaren, the Lando team and the Oscar team, fighting for a driver's world championship. The one stop worked.

It wasn't supposed to work, especially with Oscar in clear air on a two stop. mathematically, Oscar's winning that every single day of the week I think on them in the McLaren in their database. They're not going,

okay, who do we prefer this week? It's going to be Lando. And that just is not what happened. Lando did a brilliant job to make that one-stop strategy work and he deserves his commendation for that. But it's still a nine.

Nine is a fantastic grade. Let's not forget that. And also, you agree with us because the fans gave it a nine, gave Lando a nine, gave the number. I said it as if it's a number. Gave Lando Norris a nine out of 10.

So who is our P1? Well, it's Gabby Bortoletto, isn't it? It's the only 10. Alonso. Fernando Alonzo as well. It's Bortoletto. I'm giving Bortoletto the 10. Fernando Alonzo is, he's done enough in Formula 1.

He doesn't need a P1 podcast. Whereas Bortoletto, I think this will be the first ever P1 I've given to Gabby and fully deserving. And yeah, can't wait to see what you can do in the second half. Yeah, definitely I've gone for for Boltletta as well, definitely him. I really think, you know, if he can continue this, this form into the kind of end of the season, what a prospect for Audi to have him on board. And I think this, you know, could be the race that we look back on and go,

this was where it finally all came together for him. And hopefully it's just a big confidence boost now because, I think he's a really exciting driver that could go a really far enough one. So yeah, great, great job from Portoleto. Wonderful stuff. Well, we are done here for the driver ratings for the Hungarian Grand Prix, but don't you worry, our mid-season driver averages are coming your way very soon. We won't call the video that.

So look forward to that. What was that? Mid-season driver averages, not quite the, that's most exciting title. Yeah. Mathematical. equations of the driver ratings of the three one boggars. Yeah, but that is indeed what it will be of course Yeah, exactly looking forward to seeing how the drivers stack up after the first 14 races of the season and whether we have much difference between our grades. Yeah, that that is where

This is what what I like about this this bit of the the the season and when we do it at the end as well because while a lot of the time, you know people people always mentioned in drive rate things like oh you don't disagree much but it's like if boss better does well we're going to give him a nine or a 10 we're not going to be like i'm going to give him a six um that's just not how it's it works but those little kind of one and two grades here and there all adds up and that's when we have something a little bit different so um yeah looking forward to because we don't know yet and yeah looking forward to seeing who uh who it's going to be because it's been a weird year of a lot of ups and downs I don't think there's like a, if I had to pick a top five, I don't know if it would actually be the same top five.

I'm not asking you. No, no, I'm just saying it. It's interesting that I don't know if it would be the same. Yeah, and it's going to be interesting because recency bias goes out the window. It's the entire first 14 races taken into account. And it might surprise some people because they'll go, how on earth is Bortlet down in 13th? Well, because it's not been consistent. And we'll talk about that, of course, when we get to it.

So thank you, everybody. Tommy, what are your final thoughts? Final thoughts are, yeah, we've had a little mention of the Alex Albin interview, but yeah, on a high from that today, because it was such good interview, gave so, such good answers, a really lovely guy. Obviously, I missed out on the last interview we did with him because I was away, but glad I could make this one. And yeah, it's a really, really, really enjoyed the video. And I think you guys are all going to enjoy it as well. It's really fun to do. You certainly will.

You might be thinking, you know, what was the thing you spoke about most? It wasn't the Formula One. It was toilets. And I'll leave you at that. All right. See you soon. Lots of love. Bye.

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