P1 with Matt and Tommy - Miami GP Driver Ratings: F1-to-10
Episode Date: May 7, 2024A fascinating weekend in Miami threw up plenty of storylines for us to get through - so who's getting tens? You can sign up to our Patreon here! You'll get access to exclusive episodes you won't hear ...anywhere else, every P1 episode ad-free, full driver interview videos, early access to tickets and more!Follow us on socials! You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Twitch, YouTube and TikTok. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy.
We are here for the Miami Grand Prix F1 driver ratings, your favorite time of any week where we rate your favorite drivers and then get shouted at by the entire internet.
Tommy, how you feel in Miami? Have you absorbed it?
It's a sprint weekend, of course, which makes it difficult to grade.
And it should make some of these grades rather interesting because it was a tale of two halves.
Yeah, absolutely.
I actually quite like the driver ratings when it's sprint
because it means that there's a bit of disagreement and stuff
and it's not all the same
because it is funny when people go,
oh, you always agree,
but it's like if someone had a bad race,
we're going to give them a bad grade
rather than just being like,
no, actually, I think Lance Stroll is the goat
and gets a 10 out of 10.
It's not going to happen, is it?
So when it's the sprint,
it's how much you weigh up between the two races
and sometimes you have a really good sprint
and a rubbish race,
but you've been so good in the sprint
but it's still a good weekend.
Exactly. So let's begin with probably the star of the show Kevin Magnerson.
Sprint quality 14th, sprint result 18th, qualified for the main race in 19th and finished 19th.
Somehow finished. That's impressive. I am going to lock in for KMAG the goat, a 1 out of 10.
Kevin Magnerson, my goodness, I feel bad that I'm giving him a one,
considering what he delivered to us on an entertainment perspective.
If it was purely entertainment, this would be a nine or a ten out of ten.
However, this is about how he drove.
And he drove, he, that is without a doubt his worst Formula One weekend, hands down.
Not just in the sprint and what he.
was doing with Lewis Hamilton. But then you fast forward to the next day thinking maybe he's
going to have calmed down now. He's on eight penalty points. He might be, it might be just a nice
little P-19 with no issues. But nope, sends Logan Sargent into the wall and then gives
Lando Norris a victory. So KMAG, I'm surprised you've not been banned, but instead he's
going into Imler with 10 penalty points rather than 11, because apparently the FIA only give two penalty
points for certain things like sending a driver into the wall. But if you push someone wide around
China, no, that's three. If you're Alonza, yeah, it's three. I have gone for a zero out of ten
for Kevin Magnuson. For all the entertainment, while I loved it for the entertainment of the
sprint and the race, of course, as well that he delivered. I actually think Kevin Magnuson is a
decent driver and has been a good driver in Formula One.
And essentially, he has made himself into a bit of a joke in this race.
Like, he's become essentially a meme.
He's become a Pastor Maldonado, even more.
You know, he shouldn't be a driver that is there to cause chaos for his teammate.
Like, it's almost a joke, really.
and the reason it's a zero is not just
I wouldn't even give him a zero for what he did in the sprint
he did everything for his teammate
would have been a low grade
but he's qualified way behind Holcomberg in the sprint
qualified way way way way behind Holcombberg
and qualifying so he's slow as well
and then after all the drama and everything that happened
in the sprint race
how you're then thinking
you know what I'm going to put a really
audacious move on Logan Sargent of all people is just dumb. It's just really, really dumb. So he deserves zero,
because it's just, it's just silly driving. I mean, I love how we're just breaking every rule under the sun with
our F1 to 10 series that we've currently got going on. We've given zeros before, so I know.
This is a zero all over that. Okay. All right. Well, I gave him a one just purely because he helped
Holcombberg get a point in the sprint. So he deserves, he deserves at least a little one. And the fans did not
think so because they gave him a zero.
But before you move on, this is quite possibly the funniest driver rating we have ever seen.
He got 15% zero, 14% 1, 14% 2 and 11% 10.
I'd never seen.
That's incredible.
He was so close to getting a 10.
That would have been wild.
Yeah.
Alas, he gets a zero instead.
Sorry, K-Mag.
We now go to Nico Halkenberg, a sprint quality 10th, sprint result 7th,
qualified for the main race in ninth and finished 11th.
Gone for an 8 out of 10 for Nico Hulkemberg, very close to points in the main race,
obviously got a point.
In the sprint, thanks to Kevin Magnuson's antics, but he once again put the Hasse in a
brilliant position in qualifying to get a Hasse into Q3.
both sessions is just Nico Holkenberg things.
And yeah, it was another really, yeah,
it was a very impressive weekend from Hulk, actually.
It's a shame that he didn't end up with points.
That's why it's maybe not a higher grade,
because I think you maybe could have got points
in the Grand Prix as well based on who did.
But it's still an impressive performance.
It certainly is.
I've also gone for an eight out of ten for Nico Holcombberg.
Of course, he scored a couple of points in the sprint,
which is at no mean feat,
but I've also given a nod to Kevin Magnuson with that singular point.
Well, I'm mate.
But Nico, love it.
You know, they could have potentially worked together those two hash drivers,
but instead Nico straight line the chican, broke DRS,
got away with it,
and then drove off into a lovely two points for the sprint.
Very unfortunate, I think, yeah, to not score a point,
finishing 11th in the main race.
Good battling, quite close battling with Hamilton.
That could have easily ended up in an absolute plane crash.
but it didn't.
So, yeah, a very solid weekend once again from Nico Holcomburg that is qualifying.
It's just become a norm now that he gets into Q3 or SQ3 and he did that both times in the Hasse.
So the Hasse still has that raw pace but also can now race in the Grand Prix, which is nice to see
and very excited to see what Niko Holcombeau can do when he goes to, well, not stake next year,
but Audi for 2026.
The fans gave Nico a seven.
God, can't please them, can you?
Jo Guanyu, sprint qualified 17th, sprint result 11th, qualified for the main race in 20th and finished 14th.
I've gone for a 5 out of 10 for Joe Guan Yu because what even happened?
Would love to know, Kiksaouba showed some very solid promise in China and didn't really work out all.
too well in Miami. We obviously put all of our eggs in one basket for Valtry Bottas with our
biggest good surprise. That didn't come in. Joe, you know, cut the chican at the start, had to give
the place back and then was basically stuck behind Albon. Couldn't really do much. I think that was
unfortunately the bad side of the Miami DRS trains was that a lot of drivers just got stuck.
And Joe was one of them. Was he stuck though, or was that the pace? Who knows? But either
all, it's a five out of ten, sorry, but not particularly exciting.
Yeah, I've gone for a five out of ten for Chaguan you as well.
It all comes down to his qualifying. He's qualifying so poorly because he was, you know,
he tried something different in the race and like you say, he was stuck behind Albon,
but, you know, if he's not qualifying right at the back every weekend, then he won't get
stuck behind people. It's a shame to see because in the races, he's really not as bad, but
is qualifying is letting him down so much,
and it just puts him, like, completely out of contention,
and it just makes you wonder, like,
how are you going to get points if you're basically, you know,
starting right at the back every weekend.
So not a great weekend for Jay.
The fans gave Joe a five as well.
We now go to Valtry Bottas.
Sprint qualified 18th, started the sprint in 19th,
because he was penalised for driving unnecessarily slowly
during sprint quality and finished the sprint in 14th
and then qualified for the main race in 16th
and finished 16th.
I have gone for a three out of 10
for Valtry Bottas.
I think it was an appalling weekend for him
much, you know, off the pace of his teammate
who I've just said didn't do very well.
And yeah, like this is a track
and a scenario where he could be getting a good result
and he was
it was worse than anonymous
he just was like
genuinely like
at the back and last
like all the time
somehow got a high percentage
of the drive of the day vote
but maybe his race
was so bad
that it just was a bit of a banter vote
a ban to vote
for Valtry Bottas apparently
that is wild to say out loud
I have gone for
I'd gone for a five
out of 10 for Valtrey Bottas, and I'm going to stick with it because I don't think it was that
horrendous.
He was caught, well, it was unfortunate timing of the safety car, which basically screwed him
completely.
He started on the soft tires, which, I mean, a very strange strategy, because I think that
was the only driver to start on the softs, but, you know, Salba just rolling the dice and
just hoping something sticks.
Again, we didn't really see much of him.
Clearly, he was doing something, because 14% of the fans, you know, and the fans, you know,
voted for him for driver of the day.
So I've clearly missed something here.
But just a very mediocre weekend for both Saabas.
They had no pace.
And then Bottas, yeah, it's unfortunate because I was really hoping that he would do quite well.
But alas, he did not.
We now, and the fans also gave Altrey Bottas a five.
Yuki Sonoda, sprint quali 15th, sprint result 8th, qualified for the main race in 10th, finished
seventh.
I am giving Yuki Sanoda a nine out of 10.
It was, yeah, a very good weekend in the end for Yuki Sanoda, despite a poor sprint
quality.
He managed to score points in both sessions or competitive sessions, which is no mean feat,
I think, for that RB.
So a very, very impressive performance, especially in the main race, finishing seventh,
just showing that RB, if it qualified well and was in clean air, it was cooking.
Danny Rick showed that in the sprint.
Yuki Sanoda showed that more in the main race.
And look, it's impressive.
Is it going to be a flash in the pan for RB?
Who knows?
But they've scored points now at few occasions.
And Yuki Sanoda, we just thought the shift of momentum was happening for Danny Rick
with the change of chassis.
And then Yuki Sanoda says no.
And finish the seventh.
So, yeah, nine out of ten for me.
I can't give it a ten.
I'm sorry.
I can
I've given him a 10 out of 10
I think it was absolutely
amazing drive
it's basically
it's a 10 out of 10 for the race
in terms of the fact that
why
sorry this is 10 out 10 for the weekend bro
yeah I'm explaining my reasoning
go on then pop off
he got a 10 out of 10
for the race think you drove an amazing race
to beat a Mercedes
to get
seventh when one driver retired and all those top drives we say how impossible it is to get points.
So to finish seventh is pretty unbelievable.
And then despite a poor SQ, he's redeemed himself with points, which is a really good result in the end.
So I can't even downgrade him for his sprint in the end.
So that's why I've gone for a 10.
I think it's a very, very impressive performance.
Interesting.
The reason I have just taken the top off it, just a little, the boil off of it and given it a nine, was because of that sprint.
And Danny Rick showed that a fourth place was possible, and hence it's not a perfect weekend from me.
And the fans gave Yuki Snowda an eight.
Wow.
That's shocking behaviour.
That is absolutely disgusting.
But hey-ho, we all can have our opinions, right?
Okay, Daniel Ricardo.
Sprint qualified fourth, sprint result fourth, qualified for the main race in 18th, but started 20th.
and finished 15th.
I've gone for an 8 out of 10 for Daniel Ricardo.
It is such a shame that his qualifying and the main race was so poor
because the sprint was an unbelievable result.
I wouldn't have, in a million years,
thought that one, he could qualify fourth and two stay there.
I think that's the most impressive thing that he stayed there.
I was convinced that he was going to drop to the low end of the points in the sprint,
you know, driving an RV.
You thought it was going to be ninth, if I correctly remember, in the watch long, which is zero points.
Not after the guys that got taken out.
Yeah, before lights out.
But before lights out, I definitely thought he's going to struggle to get even points here because he's going to drop back.
But no, he managed to stay there.
It's a really, really good drive.
And of course, yeah, he had a stinker of a race.
But so people might think that eight is quite high.
But at the end of the day, five points?
Yes, five points for RB is a big score.
So regardless of what happens, you take five points away from a Grand Prix weekend.
That is big for RB, so he's got to get a good grade.
And that is why I've also gone for an 8 out of 10.
The sprint quali, finishing fourth, scoring five points is the most overwhelming 10 out of 10 performance for that sprint.
That it kind of, I even said after the sprint, it doesn't matter what he does now.
He can literally sit out and do nothing for the rest of the weekend.
And it is still worthwhile for R.B.
what he's managed in that sprint.
And he pretty much did.
Yeah, and he did.
Qualifying was horrendous.
Maybe he was like, I've got a three-place grid penalty.
There's no point even trying in this quality session.
And he literally didn't and started last.
And then he showed that if you don't qualify well,
but you have a good car around Miami,
you can't do anything because he finished 15th
and didn't even make it anywhere close to the points.
So yes.
And then he fought Oscar Piaastri, tooth and nail,
right at the end.
And we were all telling them to stop fighting
please Lando's winning.
So I gave him an eight, but the fans gave him a seven.
They cannot be pleased this weekend.
Logan Sargent, sprint quality 19th, sprint result 10th,
qualified in 17th for the main race and did not finish.
It's a five out of 10 from me for Logan Sargent.
A very decent sprint quality.
Not going to, sprint quality, sprint result.
He was doing all right.
I was very impressed that Logan was a couple of DNFs away from a point in a sprint.
That would have been fantastic.
And then the main race, obviously he gets absolutely yeated by Kevin Magnuson.
Oh, actually, no, I'm going to give him a six.
No, forget the five.
We're putting it up to a six because he was there or thereabouts with Alex Albon.
So I'll give him an extra point for that.
But yes, then gets wiped out by KMAG, so I can't give him any higher than a six.
Not the worst weekend for Logan Sargent.
Yeah, I've gone for a five out of ten straight down the middle for Logan.
It was a decent weekend, impressed in the sprint, kind of came through the field on the soft tires again, qualifying, letting him down.
But I think the most impressive thing this weekend for him was he wasn't.
He's more where he should be in relation to Alburn.
And it's a shame.
Do you think it's five's fair then, really?
Yes, because, well, yeah, because of where Albon, yeah, for what I'm giving Albon, yeah, that is fair.
Oh, I think Loki Sarge needs some respect on his name.
But anyway, fair enough.
And the fans also agree with you because they gave them five.
They don't care this weekend.
Okay, let's move to Alex Albon then, who sprint qualified in 20th, finished the sprint in 13th.
He did actually start the sprint from the pit lane.
and then in the main race, qualified 14th and finished 18th.
I've gone for a four out of 10 for Alex Albin.
I think it was a bad weekend for him when Alex,
I know the Williams isn't where it should be at the moment,
and it's struggling, but I'm surprised Alex hasn't got a point yet.
You know, like Ocon, for example,
has dragged that Alpine to a point,
has to getting points.
and Alex really needs to kind of step up and have a good weekend
and unfortunately this was not that made quite a few mistakes
you know bad qualifying to finish to be P20 in the sprint
when we've seen in the past that that Williams can have a
you know a cheeky little sprint point and do do really good things in it
so yeah I think it's a really disappointing weekend for Albin to be honest
for Alex I've given him a five
I just feel as though that Williams is absolutely horrendous
but for his standards of five
I know he did beat Logan sergeant technically
well he didn't actually in the sprint
he got beaten by Logan sergeant in the sprint
so that in itself deserves a commendation
for Logie Sajj, congratulations
but also yeah the main race
was not showing any kinds of pace
and obviously had that mistake
that he ran very wide
but I'm not going to be too harsh on him
because that Williams does genuinely look like
an absolute dog around
this Miami circuit.
So yeah, it's a five from me,
and Alex gets a five from the fans as well.
Estaban Ocon, sprint qualified 13th,
finished the sprint in 15th,
qualified for the main race in 13th,
and finished 10th.
I am giving Esteban Ocon a 9 out of 10.
He has somehow, with the help of the Alpine,
actually meeting the minimum weight
rather than being an overweight car,
which is obviously helping their performance,
as both O'Con and Gassley were showing signs,
of a bit more happiness in the car.
But Ocon scored a point.
I'm going to have to give him a high grade
because that's not something that Alpine have done all year.
And I still, Ocon and Gassley,
what a fight on lap one.
That is one of the most ridiculous things
I've ever seen in my entire life
and I don't think I'll ever be able to process it.
But Ocon drove really well.
I think he is driving better than Gassley at the moment.
And he scored a point.
So well done.
Indeed.
I have also gone for a nine out of ten for Esz van O'Con.
He is quite quietly being very impressive this season, I think.
He's getting his head down and just getting on with it.
I think deep down, he will obviously be very upset with the pace of Alpine,
but I think he's doing a good job at like, you know, keep on smiling and we'll get better.
And they are getting better.
And the fact that Ocon's got a point is very,
impressive and I think he he drove a very good race and enjoyed the the battle that he had with
Alonzo as well. Good to see them fighting and keeping it clean and even cheeky little self at the end,
which was good to see. Obviously it doesn't affect any drive rating at all.
I know, I love that. Just throwing in the fact of a selfie. Because we're not spoken about him.
You know what? I'm going to give my 10 now because I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
That would be the most for me together. He posted a picture of Fernando Alonzo.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Wouldn't put it past year, that's for sure.
The fans gave Esteban an eight.
Wow wee.
Let's go to Pierre Gasley now.
Sprint qualified in 16th, finished a sprint in ninth,
and then qualified for the main race in 12th and finished 12th.
Gone for a 7 out of 10 for Pierre Gasley.
I think it was a decent drive.
Of course, not going to get the plaudits that Ocon has
because he scored a point, but was very close in 12th.
Sprint result was really impressive, very close to getting a point.
and he was unfortunate with the safety car timing.
I think him and Ocon weren't a million miles apart.
And obviously O'Conn will get the plaudits for being the first one on the board.
But I think Gassley still drove a good race, so he's getting a seven.
I've also gone for a seven.
I wouldn't say he was unlucky with the safety car
because he pitted like 10, 12 laps before.
It was a very aggressive early pits.
stop from Ghazley, which, you know, that opens up chaos happening, right? It's not like it was
one or two laps. It was a very aggressive undercut from from Ghazley going on to the hards.
But still, you know, a solid weekend. As you say, the sprint was impressive. Unfortunately,
had no reward for that. But I think it's coming. Alpine are heading in the right direction.
Do they enter Formula A at some point? Maybe. But it's going to take a lot more, I think,
than what they've currently done. But they're heading in the right direction. So, yeah, a seven from me.
And yeah, the fans, wow-wee, they gave Pierre Gassley a five.
What was in your conflicts when you were voting for these?
That was a, I don't really know what happened to Gassley, straight down the middle, next vote next.
Let me have a look at the results, actually.
Oh, actually, tell a lie, it is now, now it's changed.
It is exactly even on five and six at 29.2% again.
exactly the same number of votes.
Well, to save editing, it's still a five.
Moving on.
Lance Stroll.
Sprint qualified seventh, did not finish the sprint,
qualified 11th and finished 17th.
I've gone for a four out of ten for Lance Stroll.
A very, well, it wasn't supposed to be an anonymous weekend
because he out-qualified Fernando in both qualifying sessions,
but did not score a singular point.
I still think a lot of people are,
blaming Alonzo for that sprint star. Oh, he's crashing into
stroll and yeah, Alonzo had his part to play but he was trying his best to
negotiate a Hamilton being dive-bombie. And Lance just does his usual thing of
just turning in. And I know he doesn't he didn't get that much criticism I don't
think for that, but I think he should have because Lance genuinely thinks he's
on time trial and he's just he just turns in without a care in the world.
which then obviously cuts across Alonzo, who then goes to Dalton.
I'm not saying he's fully at fault for that,
but he could just run wider and have more awareness.
But we've said that on many, many occasions for Lance Stroll.
And then the main race, again, he pitted very early,
similar to what Gadsley did, didn't work out for him.
And goodness gracious me, he then gets a 10-second penalty
for leaving the track and gaining an advantage.
Ends up 17th.
Shocking.
Sure is.
I've gone for a 4 out of 10 for Lance Strait.
as well. Of course he beat
Alonso in qualifying but you have to back it up
by delivering a good race which is normally
where Lance is much better than in qualifying
and actually he was
pretty atrocious and
you know dropped down the order got penalties
was just generally
quite well I say quite poor
very poor you should be finishing 17th
in a race when
you know you've qualified much higher than your teammate
and you know when you've got the likes
of Yuki Sonoda and Ocon
in the points, Lance should not be finishing 17th.
But then he did, so four.
I'm now thinking four's a little bit too generous,
but I've locked it in now.
The fans have given Lance a five.
All right.
All right, okay.
Now the fans, you know, they're like Lance.
Same as Ghazley, yeah.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Let's go to Fernando Alonzo now.
Sprint qualified eighth, finished the sprint in 17th.
Well, didn't technically really finish, did he?
And then qualified for the main race in 15th and finished ninth.
gotten for a six out of ten for Fernando Alonso.
How does that make you feel?
It's tough.
I don't think you've ever said a six for Alonso maybe before.
No, I did almost want to give him a seven because he got a point.
But I think it is a, yeah, I think it is a wasted opportunity.
I have to sort of leave my fanboyism aside.
One bit of fanboyism is I would say that Fernando Alonso getting two points in probably his worst weekend in ages is just very
Fernando Alonzo things and I think the best drivers in the sport still managed to come away with
points and deliver even in their worst worst times and I think I can't say that Alonzo's not had a bit
of a shocker of a weekend really he should have got more from the Aston Martin do think in the
sprint that it's definitely Hamilton's fault Lance has a bit to blame for turning in
Alonzo has a bit to blame as well for going a bit deep.
So he's not entirely innocent, but still unlucky there.
So yeah, it's a six out of ten for Fernando.
I've also gone for a six out of ten.
Of course, scored a couple of points,
but he was just not working with the car this weekend.
And it's a rare occasion to see Fernando Alonzo struggling,
especially in comparison to his teammate in qualifying.
Being out qualified by Lance Stroll on both occasions is almost,
unforgivable, I would say, from Fernando's standards.
And then he fought tooth and nail, scored a couple of points, so it can't be any lower than a six.
But I think that pretty much sums it up beautifully.
And the fans also agree with a six out of ten.
Oscar Piastri, sprint qualified sixth, finished the sprint in sixth, qualified for the main race in sixth, and finished 13th.
Now, this is probably the highest grade for anyone to ever get for finishing 13th and scoring three points in the sprint.
but I'm giving him a nine out of ten for Oscar Piastri
because I think it was one of the most impressive drives from him
in that main race especially to utilise the chaos a little bit at the start
with Perez nearly sending Vastappan into the shadow realm.
Oscar placed his car beautifully,
managed to get through on Charlerc was running in second.
And who knows what could have happened in that second stint
with Max going over that bollard, bit of damage?
Could Oscar have won the race?
There is a definite possibility that that could have happened.
Instead, fought with Carlos Sines.
It didn't work out.
Front wing broke.
And then from there it was pain.
But I still think he deserves a really high grade
because Oscar drove incredibly well.
So yeah, that's why I'm giving him a nine.
It's not the highest grade because I'm giving him a 10 out of 10.
Oh, no.
Which I know, and I'm going to argue the next one
because you need to behave on the next one
because you're going to clearly give Lando a 10
and Oscar was just as good as Lando all weekend.
end, I would argue.
Right.
So let me go into the details.
Let's fight.
Let's take our close off and fight.
Let's finally argue.
So Oscar beat Lando in the sprint, qualified better in the sprint.
He got a better start in the race.
He was on course to finish maybe second before a safety car.
And at the end of the day, it's driver ratings and not results ratings.
So he would have had a brilliant result if the race had pandan.
normally and he was extremely unlucky.
I think that was the best drive of his career so far in a Grand Prix.
And at the end of the day, the threshold for a 10 is lower in this race.
And I'll explain why in the next one.
Oh, Tommy has decided that the threshold is now lower for a 10.
Interesting.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I'm still sticking with a 9 because there were,
moments Oscar, you know, lost DRS to Charles LeCler, was originally faster than him in that first stint,
which then allowed for Carlos to get DRS, and then he was losing position there, and just saying,
very questionable 10 performance, but still very, very good, don't get, it's a high nine, as we like to
call it. The fans gave Oscar Piastri an eight.
Lando Norris, sprint qualified ninth, sprint result did not finish, qualified for the main race
in fifth and finished first.
I've gone for an eight.
I've gone for a 10 out of 10 for Lando Norris.
Oh, okay, so you're still giving me a 10.
Okay.
I genuinely thought you were coming out with a nine then.
I was about to drive to your house.
But what I'd argue is that it kind of,
it's not a perfect weekend.
Like, I can't sit here and pretend that it's the perfect weekend.
And that is why I've rated Oscar a 10 and Yuki Snowder a 10.
Because you kind of have to give Lando a 10 because you kind of have to give Lando a 10 because
he's won his first race.
He did it brilliantly against Vestappen,
but it's not the perfect weekend.
And I'll get cooked for this,
but it's something that...
But it's something that Carlos Sites said on his pod.
And I think if you spoke,
we can't...
No one's asked Lando this,
but I think, like,
I don't actually think
that's the best drive Lando's had in his career.
It's just funny how results work out.
You know, sometimes Lando has dragged
a very average McLaren to a second place.
And I think Carlos said something quite similar
that he'd won races and he was like,
well actually my best drive was when I finished third
in a McLaren when I shouldn't have been there
and they will know that they've driven the best.
I think Lando himself would admit
that that might not be his best weekend,
but it has won.
So it's a 10 out of 10 because of what he did
with Verstappen at the end.
But if you look at the whole weekend,
his sprint
quality
he let down there
got taken out of the race
which you know
and then he was behind Piastri
fortunate with the safety car
but what he did at the end
was so good
and so deserving
of the 10 because he basically
put all the haters
to say like shut up I can do this
and he proved it
so 10 out of 10
a lot of explaining from Tom
on that one. I love that.
Well, it would be a very boring series if we all just said.
Oh, well done, Lando 10.
No, we like cooking. We like cooking.
I have also gone for a 10 out of 10 for Lando Norris.
It is interesting how you say that results are very,
they skew the ratings quite a lot,
but you cannot give anything other than a 10 for Lando
and just the way that, as you say,
he drove away at the end.
Max, of course, did pick up some damage
after his mistake on the bollard.
So I would be interested to see how much time
he lost with that slight floor damage that he got from that.
But Lando just drove away.
Just absolutely nerves of steel put in the position that he's been longing for for so, so long
since Russia 2021 and he delivered.
You can say it now.
Yeah, exactly.
He's now a win.
There's now a win on Lando's career books, which is lovely.
The sprint, of course, he messed up in, well, he messed up, McLaren messed up.
There was a lot of talk about how they worked those soft tires before the run.
But either or, made up for it in the race, incredible.
You could see throughout the race that he wasn't in a good position
because he was at the back of the sort of top field,
but his pace was so, so good,
especially on those mediums towards the end of the stint.
And look, yeah, he got fortunate with the safety car,
but he also kept those mediums in a good window to go as long as possible
to put himself in that position that he could gain from the safety car.
Like, to be there.
Yeah, and we'll get on to Carlos next,
who constantly said he was going to win the race
had he got fortunate with the safety car,
which we will discuss shortly.
But Lando was the one to gain from that,
and I think he still would have gone a few more laps
because he was absolutely cooking on those medium tyres.
So 10 out of 10, and the fans also gave Lando a 10.
Carlos Sines, sprint quality fifth,
finished the sprint in fifth, qualified third, finished fifth.
I've gone for a 7 out of 10 for Carlos Sines.
Of course, he did pick up a penalty at the end, which demoted him from fourth to fifth.
I will say that he still drove pretty well.
I think he was slightly unfortunate with how he clipped Oscar's front wing.
It wasn't particularly aggressive or a horrendously bad move.
It was just more of an unfortunate circumstance, I would say, for Carlos, just slightly breaking late.
We've seen a lot of drivers making mistakes into there, and Oscar's front wing was there like, hey!
and then unfortunately broke because of it.
That being said, yeah, Carlos, what on earth?
I love how even Max Verstappen was like, you know what, Lando, congratulations.
You won.
If my mother had balls, she'd be my dad, that sort of stuff.
Carlos comes out of it and is like, I would have won that race.
Had I got more fortunate with the safety car, I was ahead of Lando, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I don't know whether Carlos would have won that race.
I mean, firstly, that would have been unbelievable had he, again,
utilised or extracted the maximum as soon as Max has a problem.
But I'm not convinced.
He was slightly slower than Shal all weekend.
I love how there's not been any talk about Sharloklau back on top in that particular
teammate rivalry.
It seems like people only gas up on one particular side of that.
But still, Carlos had a good weekend, but it's, yeah, no more than a seven for me.
I have gone for a seven out of ten for Carlos Sites as well.
it was a good
drive but
not hugely special
I think the
you know the Pia Street incident
was out of control
and you know
he got he got beaten by
he was out of control or the car was
he was out of control
wow you're saying Carlos just over the top of it
no the car was out of control
but like he was driving the car
the way that could be construed was like
Carlos was out of control
he was Kevin Magnusing
no no okay
just to save that
Just to clarify this one.
He, he, he, it was a ambitious move that didn't quite, quite pay off.
And yeah, it was, it was not good.
And I think the penalty was deserved because we've not spoken since he actually got one.
It was, I think it was a good penalty to not, I don't think it was worthy of like, you know,
where people give like a 20 second time penalty at the end, just to five seconds is.
I do wonder though, how, why is it now five?
for that. I thought everything was now 10 and above. So why the stewards now saying five again?
I'm sure there is something in the rule book somewhere. Is there? Yeah, but everything we've
true though, because I think it is worthy of a five, like it's not a 10 or a 20. But I thought
the minimum we were now working with, perhaps there's difference between post-race and, yeah,
I was going to say, maybe that. Maybe in the race, they can only give it, but I think the penalties
need a overhaul anyway, but that's for another podcast. Yeah, seven for Carlos.
beaten by Shal all weekend.
Do you think he would have won?
Had he got fortunate with the safety car?
No chance.
I don't know what he's...
I really don't.
He would have won if Sergio Perez
had sent Max into the Shadow Realm
because it probably would have taken Max out.
Charle would have got squeezed on the outside
and Carlos probably would have gone through
and maybe quite comfortably won the race.
No, Carlos was the one that would have got collected
because he had a better start than Shal.
Yeah, but I thought he got a better start
from shawl because he went round the outside
whereas Carlos was the one that had to
get out of it so he was the one that was
nearly collected it was Carlos and Max that
were two and then Perez went straight
through the middle like hey
but no I don't believe I don't believe Carlos would
would have won I think that was very very ambitious
indeed I think it's probably one of those I think it was
more frustration from knowing
what happened with Lando yeah
because everyone pitted
almost everyone pitted just before
so I can understand a lot
of drivers going, well, if I was in Landau's position, I'd have won, because he obviously got a huge
advantage. Well, if my mum are bulls. Anyway, the fans gave Carlos a seven as well.
Charlotte Clare, sprint qualified second, finish the sprint in second, qualified second,
and finish the main race in third. Go on. Give it. Give it. I know you think of between an
eight and a nine, but I think you need to give him a nine. No, not actually. Oh, nine or a ten.
Lovely, ten. Take it. Wow, are you going to think about a ten? That's crazy.
Oh God
Who's the Charlotte Claire
Yeah yeah gone
Charlotte Claire gets a 10 out of 10
Looking at those results
Blumen heck
What is going on it?
I'm being very generous here
It's the 10 Grand Prix
I know
I kind of wish I'd given
All of those drivers are 9 now
But I think it is a
It is a 10
Based on the others
Wow
Now I've committed to the 10
I'm thinking about those other drivers
I'm thinking about those other drivers
Botas 10
Yeah
No you look at the 10
Look at those results.
Second, second, second, second, third.
Like, what more could he have done, really?
I mean, one of them is literally just qualifying then where they start.
You've just read out there.
Yeah, I know.
Sorry.
But still, sorry.
Second, second, second third.
He has done everything he could.
It's hard to fault him.
So if I'm going by the same logic that I've given Lando a 10 and Oscar a 10 and Yuki a 10,
then it's got to be a 10.
So well done, Charles LeClaire.
I think he was very, very impressive.
Delivered in qualifying.
It was the shell that we know in qualifying in particular.
And then raced brilliantly as well and delivered, again,
just getting the maximum, the exact maximum he could from Ferrari.
And I think, despite everyone saying for a long time how Washington has been this season,
I think in terms of getting the most out of the car every single,
every single weekend, I'd probably say other than Max, he's probably been the driver that's done that
the most. Well, he's finished in the top four in every single Grand Prix, and he continues that
trend after this weekend. I cannot give him a 10. I'm going to give him a 9. Of course, he made that
error in FP1, which put him on the back foot a little bit, so you do wonder had he had some more
learnings. Maybe he would have been a little bit quicker, but who knows? But then, yeah, I can't give
him a 10 for a third place. Max Verstappen was very much struggling in that at the end of that
race. Yeah, no, don't you, don't you dare. All right, you've locked in a 10 now. That's crazy.
So yeah, I think that had he beaten Max Verstappen, maybe I would have flirted with a 10, but instead,
it's a nine from me. This is your last chance, Tommy, if you wanted to change it.
Yes, nine.
Something was in your coffee this morning, sir, because you are feeling.
very, very generous.
The fans gave Charles LeCler an eight.
So Tommy, just to clarify, gave a nine, the same as me.
Right.
Should we take a moment to deep breaths now?
Is George Russell about to get a 10?
Is this what you're going to?
Yes, he is actually.
Yeah, okay.
George Russell, sprint qualified 11th, finished the sprint in 12th,
qualified for the main race in 7th and finished 8th.
I've gone for a 6 out of 10 for George Russell this weekend.
Not particularly impressive at any stage.
He got absolutely chefed on in the.
the main race by Lewis Hamilton.
Considering there was a safety car and to finish almost 20 seconds behind his teammate,
there were mistakes in there.
It just wasn't a particularly impressive weekend from George at all.
Of course, scored a few points in eighth, but apart from that, really nothing to write
home about.
And yeah, a disappointing weekend for George, who had occasionally been looking a lot better
than Hamilton this year, but not this weekend.
Indeed.
I've gone for a five out of ten.
George Russell.
It was a very poor weekend, really.
Like I say, Hamilton was much more impressive in the main race.
And then even in the sprint, George was nowhere.
I think he said himself that he was stuck in a DRS train
and how boring it was and stuff like that.
But he didn't qualify well at all.
So, yeah, not a very good weekend from George,
who has been, like you say, looking more.
on top of Hamilton through more races, I think.
Yeah, I mean, the record coming into this was like,
I can't remember which way around it was,
but either he'd out-qualified Hamilton 5-0
and then beaten him 4-1 or something.
It was very heavily in George's favour.
Yeah, it was.
So I hope for his sake it doesn't now start to swing the other way.
The fans gave George a six.
Lewis Hamilton, sprint qualified 12th,
finished the sprint in 16th,
qualified in 8th for the main race and finished 6th.
I have gone for an 8 out of 10 for Lewis Hamilton,
which may seem very generous,
but I think his Grand Prix was fantastic,
just to cover off the sprint.
Obviously, it went not very well at all.
I completely agree, Frank.
Yeah, Frank's fine.
Yeah, he, in the sprint, the fact that he was unfortunate
it to get
kind of magnusined
and it was difficult to overtake
but I think it was his fault
for speeding in the pits
and dropping out there
but in the main race
very impressive
you know
was fighting
more where that
the car was nowhere near
where it should be
and Hamilton was fighting
those top runners
his move on Piastri in particular
was just beautiful
gorgeous it really was
so yeah
okay yeah
I've also
I've also gone for an 8 out of 10
for Lewis Hamilton
he was fighting Perez
which I don't know if that says
more about Czechos racing
it does Lewis's but either or
Lewis as I mentioned
in George Russell segment
was much much quicker
throughout the main Grand Prix
of course the sprint
he absolutely deserved a penalty
for that move
and it was
thurging on desperate
from starting 12th
and needing to
to gain a few places at the start, and that caused a rather big domino effect into the two Aston's.
But the main race, you can't fault him, really.
He really did give it everything, and he seemed quite happy as well at the end with the fact that he was fighting one Red Bull.
So yeah, I'm giving him an eight, and the fans gave him a seven.
Sergio Perez, sprint qualified third, finished the sprint in third, qualified for the main race in fourth, and finished fourth due to Carlos' penalty.
I have gone four
It depends how you look at this one
I'm going to give it Perez
I'm going to give him a seven
I was flirting with a six or a seven
but I'll give him a seven
because the Red Bull wasn't anywhere near
as dominant as the rest of the weekend
season sorry
and to finish third and then obviously get fourth as well
it was by no mean feat
an incredible weekend for Perez
but if you look at where Max was
it's not a disaster.
He's very lucky to not get a zero after the first corner of the first lap of the main race.
My goodness me, he needs to buy a lottery ticket after that because it was, I've never seen a closer non-impact, I think, for a very, very long time.
But yeah, it was a good enough race, but nothing really too crazy.
So a seven.
Yeah, he was a millimeter away.
from getting a zero, like you say, but I have gone for a seven as well.
I nearly gave him a six, but then you look at actually what he's achieved in the race.
I think when I, the reason for thinking a six and is because I think it's the frustration
of watching a race like that.
And Perez should be winning these races that Max either has a problem or a rare off day
or you know Max has made a mistake and Perra should be the one picking up the pieces so he's at but he's
absolutely nowhere near doing that and I think that's where the frustration lies where in in the
sort of like when you're kind of looking into it you're like oh god Peres what are you doing
but then you actually look on paper that he's third third fourth fourth and it's solid enough like
it's not nothing spectacular but I can't give him a
six for getting, you know, a good amount of points on the board.
I know he's in a Red Bull, but I don't think that car is as dominant as some people seem
to think.
It's still a very good car, but it's not, you know, 40 seconds clear of the field like people,
some people think.
Exactly.
And Max, it further gives Max more applaudits for the fact of what he's done with that car.
over the last couple of seasons
and obviously this season
Perez
lacking maybe a few tents
and he's in the pack
especially this weekend
Max didn't have that advantage
and then Perez still scored
some decent points
if that's a bad race
for Perez
compared to last year
he's going to take it
every single day
being fourth
and then third in the sprint
it's not bad at all
the fans gave Perez a six
and finally Max
Vestappan
sprint qualified first
finished the sprint in first, qualified first, finished second.
Yeah, he's so washed.
Giving him nine out of ten for Max
because the mistake basically.
He was obviously incredibly unlucky with the safety car
and I will give him props.
I know you wrote a tweet about it similar
that he could have quite easily completely,
downplayed and overshadows Lando's victory by kicking off that the safety car
completely effed up and almost put Lando a whole lap ahead which Max was saying on the radio
so because you can argue that had it been picked up normally he might have done but like
he said so brilliantly that is the way it goes and Max has benefited from the safety car before so
has he?
I can't remember what race it was actually.
Which Grand Prix was it?
Lap cars may overtake?
So the reason he's not getting a 10 is because he made that mistake.
And while the VSC that was caused by the Ballard did not affect his race at all really,
when you watch the replay, you can see that he'd take a big old chunk out of his floor,
which makes you wonder if he'd had the normal downforce that he had,
if he could have caught and challenged and passed Lando.
So it's a rare, pathetic nine out of ten for Max Verstappen.
He needs to pick up his game.
He's knocking his average down.
That's crazy, isn't it?
I've also gone for a nine out of ten for Max Verstappen.
The mistake that he made, albeit not a massive one in the sense of what it cost him,
still second place, but it was a mistake and may well have given us a showdown
remember had he not picked up that damage.
So yeah, it's a nine out of ten, but it was, I thought, you know,
giving him the biggest flop, and then he's first in quality for the sprint,
first in the sprint, qualified first for the main race.
I was thinking, no chance.
The biggest flop isn't coming in, and then boom, the bollard of dreams gave Lando Norris
his first victory.
The fans also gave Max a nine, and that is it.
Who is our P1?
That was the strangest nine I've ever said in my life.
That a bit too much.
Yes, I did.
And it's fine.
We like difference and other winners.
Who is our P1?
Well, Tommy's given everybody a 10,
so it's going to be quite difficult for you to decide who you want to give it to Tommy.
But mine is, of course, Lando Norris.
Congratulations to Lando for that 10 out of 10.
Unbelievable.
I'm still buzzing from ear to ear for how he is a race winner now.
And I'm so happy for him.
and I think that 1% recovery picture sums up that he also enjoyed that evening and probably into the morning as well.
So yeah, my P1 is Lando.
Mine is also Lando Norris.
It's close between him and Piaastre in terms of performance for the whole weekend.
But Lando gets it and well deserved as well because, you know, it's so good that he's finally just settled.
that debate
because it's been a long time
coming and it's going to be
fascinating to see if he can
get some more wins now because
I did worry
that he was maybe getting in his own head a little bit
I don't think he was losing his confidence
but he was starting to reply to memes online
and it was becoming such a thing
like I've seen you know how
the TikTok algorithm like
finds all these old videos
and things.
And I saw a clip of someone like shouting to him at the Australian Grand Prix like,
Lando, when are you going to win a race?
And he like, he stuck his middle finger up at them and things like that.
And yeah, I'm so glad that he's just finally put that debate to rest.
Yeah, I genuinely believe that this is the start of something very, very good for Lando now.
I think he'll drive with a confidence that we've not seen before,
maybe that cutting edge as well that maybe alluded him before getting a race win.
Now I think he will, yeah, I'm very excited.
to see what he can achieve.
I think he wins another race this year.
100%.
I think Silverstone is a very exciting point for a lot of British fans.
So we will see.
Right, that is it.
Thank you, everybody, for watching and for listening to this driver ratings.
Tommy, what are your final thoughts, sir?
Final thoughts is that just remember with my ratings that I'm rating the drives and not just the result.
Oh, mate, they've already in the comments.
How could you give Oscar the same?
as Lando.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because he drove one.
It's fine.
Keep feeding that algorithm.
Everybody, thank you.
Thanks a lot, everybody.
We'll see you soon for another bit of content.
Imola, of course, next weekend.
And we'll have some stuff for you, I'm sure.
Between now and then, lots of love.
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