P1 with Matt and Tommy - Miami GP Driver Ratings: F1-to-10

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

A fascinating weekend in Miami threw up plenty of storylines for us to get through - so who's getting tens? You can sign up to our Patreon here! You'll get access to exclusive episodes you won't hear ...anywhere else, every P1 episode ad-free, full driver interview videos, early access to tickets and more!Follow us on socials! You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Twitch, YouTube and TikTok. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. We are here for the Miami Grand Prix F1 driver ratings, your favorite time of any week where we rate your favorite drivers and then get shouted at by the entire internet. Tommy, how you feel in Miami? Have you absorbed it? It's a sprint weekend, of course, which makes it difficult to grade. And it should make some of these grades rather interesting because it was a tale of two halves. Yeah, absolutely. I actually quite like the driver ratings when it's sprint because it means that there's a bit of disagreement and stuff
Starting point is 00:00:40 and it's not all the same because it is funny when people go, oh, you always agree, but it's like if someone had a bad race, we're going to give them a bad grade rather than just being like, no, actually, I think Lance Stroll is the goat and gets a 10 out of 10.
Starting point is 00:00:52 It's not going to happen, is it? So when it's the sprint, it's how much you weigh up between the two races and sometimes you have a really good sprint and a rubbish race, but you've been so good in the sprint but it's still a good weekend. Exactly. So let's begin with probably the star of the show Kevin Magnerson.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Sprint quality 14th, sprint result 18th, qualified for the main race in 19th and finished 19th. Somehow finished. That's impressive. I am going to lock in for KMAG the goat, a 1 out of 10. Kevin Magnerson, my goodness, I feel bad that I'm giving him a one, considering what he delivered to us on an entertainment perspective. If it was purely entertainment, this would be a nine or a ten out of ten. However, this is about how he drove. And he drove, he, that is without a doubt his worst Formula One weekend, hands down. Not just in the sprint and what he.
Starting point is 00:01:59 was doing with Lewis Hamilton. But then you fast forward to the next day thinking maybe he's going to have calmed down now. He's on eight penalty points. He might be, it might be just a nice little P-19 with no issues. But nope, sends Logan Sargent into the wall and then gives Lando Norris a victory. So KMAG, I'm surprised you've not been banned, but instead he's going into Imler with 10 penalty points rather than 11, because apparently the FIA only give two penalty points for certain things like sending a driver into the wall. But if you push someone wide around China, no, that's three. If you're Alonza, yeah, it's three. I have gone for a zero out of ten for Kevin Magnuson. For all the entertainment, while I loved it for the entertainment of the
Starting point is 00:02:51 sprint and the race, of course, as well that he delivered. I actually think Kevin Magnuson is a decent driver and has been a good driver in Formula One. And essentially, he has made himself into a bit of a joke in this race. Like, he's become essentially a meme. He's become a Pastor Maldonado, even more. You know, he shouldn't be a driver that is there to cause chaos for his teammate. Like, it's almost a joke, really. and the reason it's a zero is not just
Starting point is 00:03:28 I wouldn't even give him a zero for what he did in the sprint he did everything for his teammate would have been a low grade but he's qualified way behind Holcomberg in the sprint qualified way way way way behind Holcombberg and qualifying so he's slow as well and then after all the drama and everything that happened in the sprint race
Starting point is 00:03:50 how you're then thinking you know what I'm going to put a really audacious move on Logan Sargent of all people is just dumb. It's just really, really dumb. So he deserves zero, because it's just, it's just silly driving. I mean, I love how we're just breaking every rule under the sun with our F1 to 10 series that we've currently got going on. We've given zeros before, so I know. This is a zero all over that. Okay. All right. Well, I gave him a one just purely because he helped Holcombberg get a point in the sprint. So he deserves, he deserves at least a little one. And the fans did not think so because they gave him a zero.
Starting point is 00:04:26 But before you move on, this is quite possibly the funniest driver rating we have ever seen. He got 15% zero, 14% 1, 14% 2 and 11% 10. I'd never seen. That's incredible. He was so close to getting a 10. That would have been wild. Yeah. Alas, he gets a zero instead.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Sorry, K-Mag. We now go to Nico Halkenberg, a sprint quality 10th, sprint result 7th, qualified for the main race in ninth and finished 11th. Gone for an 8 out of 10 for Nico Hulkemberg, very close to points in the main race, obviously got a point. In the sprint, thanks to Kevin Magnuson's antics, but he once again put the Hasse in a brilliant position in qualifying to get a Hasse into Q3. both sessions is just Nico Holkenberg things.
Starting point is 00:05:28 And yeah, it was another really, yeah, it was a very impressive weekend from Hulk, actually. It's a shame that he didn't end up with points. That's why it's maybe not a higher grade, because I think you maybe could have got points in the Grand Prix as well based on who did. But it's still an impressive performance. It certainly is.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I've also gone for an eight out of ten for Nico Holcombberg. Of course, he scored a couple of points in the sprint, which is at no mean feat, but I've also given a nod to Kevin Magnuson with that singular point. Well, I'm mate. But Nico, love it. You know, they could have potentially worked together those two hash drivers, but instead Nico straight line the chican, broke DRS,
Starting point is 00:06:08 got away with it, and then drove off into a lovely two points for the sprint. Very unfortunate, I think, yeah, to not score a point, finishing 11th in the main race. Good battling, quite close battling with Hamilton. That could have easily ended up in an absolute plane crash. but it didn't. So, yeah, a very solid weekend once again from Nico Holcomburg that is qualifying.
Starting point is 00:06:29 It's just become a norm now that he gets into Q3 or SQ3 and he did that both times in the Hasse. So the Hasse still has that raw pace but also can now race in the Grand Prix, which is nice to see and very excited to see what Niko Holcombeau can do when he goes to, well, not stake next year, but Audi for 2026. The fans gave Nico a seven. God, can't please them, can you? Jo Guanyu, sprint qualified 17th, sprint result 11th, qualified for the main race in 20th and finished 14th. I've gone for a 5 out of 10 for Joe Guan Yu because what even happened?
Starting point is 00:07:14 Would love to know, Kiksaouba showed some very solid promise in China and didn't really work out all. too well in Miami. We obviously put all of our eggs in one basket for Valtry Bottas with our biggest good surprise. That didn't come in. Joe, you know, cut the chican at the start, had to give the place back and then was basically stuck behind Albon. Couldn't really do much. I think that was unfortunately the bad side of the Miami DRS trains was that a lot of drivers just got stuck. And Joe was one of them. Was he stuck though, or was that the pace? Who knows? But either all, it's a five out of ten, sorry, but not particularly exciting. Yeah, I've gone for a five out of ten for Chaguan you as well.
Starting point is 00:08:01 It all comes down to his qualifying. He's qualifying so poorly because he was, you know, he tried something different in the race and like you say, he was stuck behind Albon, but, you know, if he's not qualifying right at the back every weekend, then he won't get stuck behind people. It's a shame to see because in the races, he's really not as bad, but is qualifying is letting him down so much, and it just puts him, like, completely out of contention, and it just makes you wonder, like, how are you going to get points if you're basically, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:34 starting right at the back every weekend. So not a great weekend for Jay. The fans gave Joe a five as well. We now go to Valtry Bottas. Sprint qualified 18th, started the sprint in 19th, because he was penalised for driving unnecessarily slowly during sprint quality and finished the sprint in 14th and then qualified for the main race in 16th
Starting point is 00:08:55 and finished 16th. I have gone for a three out of 10 for Valtry Bottas. I think it was an appalling weekend for him much, you know, off the pace of his teammate who I've just said didn't do very well. And yeah, like this is a track and a scenario where he could be getting a good result
Starting point is 00:09:21 and he was it was worse than anonymous he just was like genuinely like at the back and last like all the time somehow got a high percentage of the drive of the day vote
Starting point is 00:09:35 but maybe his race was so bad that it just was a bit of a banter vote a ban to vote for Valtry Bottas apparently that is wild to say out loud I have gone for I'd gone for a five
Starting point is 00:09:51 out of 10 for Valtrey Bottas, and I'm going to stick with it because I don't think it was that horrendous. He was caught, well, it was unfortunate timing of the safety car, which basically screwed him completely. He started on the soft tires, which, I mean, a very strange strategy, because I think that was the only driver to start on the softs, but, you know, Salba just rolling the dice and just hoping something sticks. Again, we didn't really see much of him.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Clearly, he was doing something, because 14% of the fans, you know, and the fans, you know, voted for him for driver of the day. So I've clearly missed something here. But just a very mediocre weekend for both Saabas. They had no pace. And then Bottas, yeah, it's unfortunate because I was really hoping that he would do quite well. But alas, he did not. We now, and the fans also gave Altrey Bottas a five.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Yuki Sonoda, sprint quali 15th, sprint result 8th, qualified for the main race in 10th, finished seventh. I am giving Yuki Sanoda a nine out of 10. It was, yeah, a very good weekend in the end for Yuki Sanoda, despite a poor sprint quality. He managed to score points in both sessions or competitive sessions, which is no mean feat, I think, for that RB. So a very, very impressive performance, especially in the main race, finishing seventh,
Starting point is 00:11:15 just showing that RB, if it qualified well and was in clean air, it was cooking. Danny Rick showed that in the sprint. Yuki Sanoda showed that more in the main race. And look, it's impressive. Is it going to be a flash in the pan for RB? Who knows? But they've scored points now at few occasions. And Yuki Sanoda, we just thought the shift of momentum was happening for Danny Rick
Starting point is 00:11:41 with the change of chassis. And then Yuki Sanoda says no. And finish the seventh. So, yeah, nine out of ten for me. I can't give it a ten. I'm sorry. I can I've given him a 10 out of 10
Starting point is 00:11:52 I think it was absolutely amazing drive it's basically it's a 10 out of 10 for the race in terms of the fact that why sorry this is 10 out 10 for the weekend bro yeah I'm explaining my reasoning
Starting point is 00:12:09 go on then pop off he got a 10 out of 10 for the race think you drove an amazing race to beat a Mercedes to get seventh when one driver retired and all those top drives we say how impossible it is to get points. So to finish seventh is pretty unbelievable. And then despite a poor SQ, he's redeemed himself with points, which is a really good result in the end.
Starting point is 00:12:39 So I can't even downgrade him for his sprint in the end. So that's why I've gone for a 10. I think it's a very, very impressive performance. Interesting. The reason I have just taken the top off it, just a little, the boil off of it and given it a nine, was because of that sprint. And Danny Rick showed that a fourth place was possible, and hence it's not a perfect weekend from me. And the fans gave Yuki Snowda an eight. Wow.
Starting point is 00:13:02 That's shocking behaviour. That is absolutely disgusting. But hey-ho, we all can have our opinions, right? Okay, Daniel Ricardo. Sprint qualified fourth, sprint result fourth, qualified for the main race in 18th, but started 20th. and finished 15th. I've gone for an 8 out of 10 for Daniel Ricardo. It is such a shame that his qualifying and the main race was so poor
Starting point is 00:13:30 because the sprint was an unbelievable result. I wouldn't have, in a million years, thought that one, he could qualify fourth and two stay there. I think that's the most impressive thing that he stayed there. I was convinced that he was going to drop to the low end of the points in the sprint, you know, driving an RV. You thought it was going to be ninth, if I correctly remember, in the watch long, which is zero points. Not after the guys that got taken out.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Yeah, before lights out. But before lights out, I definitely thought he's going to struggle to get even points here because he's going to drop back. But no, he managed to stay there. It's a really, really good drive. And of course, yeah, he had a stinker of a race. But so people might think that eight is quite high. But at the end of the day, five points? Yes, five points for RB is a big score.
Starting point is 00:14:20 So regardless of what happens, you take five points away from a Grand Prix weekend. That is big for RB, so he's got to get a good grade. And that is why I've also gone for an 8 out of 10. The sprint quali, finishing fourth, scoring five points is the most overwhelming 10 out of 10 performance for that sprint. That it kind of, I even said after the sprint, it doesn't matter what he does now. He can literally sit out and do nothing for the rest of the weekend. And it is still worthwhile for R.B. what he's managed in that sprint.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And he pretty much did. Yeah, and he did. Qualifying was horrendous. Maybe he was like, I've got a three-place grid penalty. There's no point even trying in this quality session. And he literally didn't and started last. And then he showed that if you don't qualify well, but you have a good car around Miami,
Starting point is 00:15:04 you can't do anything because he finished 15th and didn't even make it anywhere close to the points. So yes. And then he fought Oscar Piaastri, tooth and nail, right at the end. And we were all telling them to stop fighting please Lando's winning. So I gave him an eight, but the fans gave him a seven.
Starting point is 00:15:20 They cannot be pleased this weekend. Logan Sargent, sprint quality 19th, sprint result 10th, qualified in 17th for the main race and did not finish. It's a five out of 10 from me for Logan Sargent. A very decent sprint quality. Not going to, sprint quality, sprint result. He was doing all right. I was very impressed that Logan was a couple of DNFs away from a point in a sprint.
Starting point is 00:15:49 That would have been fantastic. And then the main race, obviously he gets absolutely yeated by Kevin Magnuson. Oh, actually, no, I'm going to give him a six. No, forget the five. We're putting it up to a six because he was there or thereabouts with Alex Albon. So I'll give him an extra point for that. But yes, then gets wiped out by KMAG, so I can't give him any higher than a six. Not the worst weekend for Logan Sargent.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Yeah, I've gone for a five out of ten straight down the middle for Logan. It was a decent weekend, impressed in the sprint, kind of came through the field on the soft tires again, qualifying, letting him down. But I think the most impressive thing this weekend for him was he wasn't. He's more where he should be in relation to Alburn. And it's a shame. Do you think it's five's fair then, really? Yes, because, well, yeah, because of where Albon, yeah, for what I'm giving Albon, yeah, that is fair. Oh, I think Loki Sarge needs some respect on his name.
Starting point is 00:16:58 But anyway, fair enough. And the fans also agree with you because they gave them five. They don't care this weekend. Okay, let's move to Alex Albon then, who sprint qualified in 20th, finished the sprint in 13th. He did actually start the sprint from the pit lane. and then in the main race, qualified 14th and finished 18th. I've gone for a four out of 10 for Alex Albin. I think it was a bad weekend for him when Alex,
Starting point is 00:17:24 I know the Williams isn't where it should be at the moment, and it's struggling, but I'm surprised Alex hasn't got a point yet. You know, like Ocon, for example, has dragged that Alpine to a point, has to getting points. and Alex really needs to kind of step up and have a good weekend and unfortunately this was not that made quite a few mistakes you know bad qualifying to finish to be P20 in the sprint
Starting point is 00:17:53 when we've seen in the past that that Williams can have a you know a cheeky little sprint point and do do really good things in it so yeah I think it's a really disappointing weekend for Albin to be honest for Alex I've given him a five I just feel as though that Williams is absolutely horrendous but for his standards of five I know he did beat Logan sergeant technically well he didn't actually in the sprint
Starting point is 00:18:19 he got beaten by Logan sergeant in the sprint so that in itself deserves a commendation for Logie Sajj, congratulations but also yeah the main race was not showing any kinds of pace and obviously had that mistake that he ran very wide but I'm not going to be too harsh on him
Starting point is 00:18:35 because that Williams does genuinely look like an absolute dog around this Miami circuit. So yeah, it's a five from me, and Alex gets a five from the fans as well. Estaban Ocon, sprint qualified 13th, finished the sprint in 15th, qualified for the main race in 13th,
Starting point is 00:18:50 and finished 10th. I am giving Esteban Ocon a 9 out of 10. He has somehow, with the help of the Alpine, actually meeting the minimum weight rather than being an overweight car, which is obviously helping their performance, as both O'Con and Gassley were showing signs, of a bit more happiness in the car.
Starting point is 00:19:11 But Ocon scored a point. I'm going to have to give him a high grade because that's not something that Alpine have done all year. And I still, Ocon and Gassley, what a fight on lap one. That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen in my entire life and I don't think I'll ever be able to process it.
Starting point is 00:19:27 But Ocon drove really well. I think he is driving better than Gassley at the moment. And he scored a point. So well done. Indeed. I have also gone for a nine out of ten for Esz van O'Con. He is quite quietly being very impressive this season, I think. He's getting his head down and just getting on with it.
Starting point is 00:19:48 I think deep down, he will obviously be very upset with the pace of Alpine, but I think he's doing a good job at like, you know, keep on smiling and we'll get better. And they are getting better. And the fact that Ocon's got a point is very, impressive and I think he he drove a very good race and enjoyed the the battle that he had with Alonzo as well. Good to see them fighting and keeping it clean and even cheeky little self at the end, which was good to see. Obviously it doesn't affect any drive rating at all. I know, I love that. Just throwing in the fact of a selfie. Because we're not spoken about him.
Starting point is 00:20:27 You know what? I'm going to give my 10 now because I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. That would be the most for me together. He posted a picture of Fernando Alonzo. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Wouldn't put it past year, that's for sure. The fans gave Esteban an eight. Wow wee. Let's go to Pierre Gasley now. Sprint qualified in 16th, finished a sprint in ninth, and then qualified for the main race in 12th and finished 12th.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Gone for a 7 out of 10 for Pierre Gasley. I think it was a decent drive. Of course, not going to get the plaudits that Ocon has because he scored a point, but was very close in 12th. Sprint result was really impressive, very close to getting a point. and he was unfortunate with the safety car timing. I think him and Ocon weren't a million miles apart. And obviously O'Conn will get the plaudits for being the first one on the board.
Starting point is 00:21:21 But I think Gassley still drove a good race, so he's getting a seven. I've also gone for a seven. I wouldn't say he was unlucky with the safety car because he pitted like 10, 12 laps before. It was a very aggressive early pits. stop from Ghazley, which, you know, that opens up chaos happening, right? It's not like it was one or two laps. It was a very aggressive undercut from from Ghazley going on to the hards. But still, you know, a solid weekend. As you say, the sprint was impressive. Unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:21:51 had no reward for that. But I think it's coming. Alpine are heading in the right direction. Do they enter Formula A at some point? Maybe. But it's going to take a lot more, I think, than what they've currently done. But they're heading in the right direction. So, yeah, a seven from me. And yeah, the fans, wow-wee, they gave Pierre Gassley a five. What was in your conflicts when you were voting for these? That was a, I don't really know what happened to Gassley, straight down the middle, next vote next. Let me have a look at the results, actually. Oh, actually, tell a lie, it is now, now it's changed.
Starting point is 00:22:31 It is exactly even on five and six at 29.2% again. exactly the same number of votes. Well, to save editing, it's still a five. Moving on. Lance Stroll. Sprint qualified seventh, did not finish the sprint, qualified 11th and finished 17th. I've gone for a four out of ten for Lance Stroll.
Starting point is 00:22:55 A very, well, it wasn't supposed to be an anonymous weekend because he out-qualified Fernando in both qualifying sessions, but did not score a singular point. I still think a lot of people are, blaming Alonzo for that sprint star. Oh, he's crashing into stroll and yeah, Alonzo had his part to play but he was trying his best to negotiate a Hamilton being dive-bombie. And Lance just does his usual thing of just turning in. And I know he doesn't he didn't get that much criticism I don't
Starting point is 00:23:30 think for that, but I think he should have because Lance genuinely thinks he's on time trial and he's just he just turns in without a care in the world. which then obviously cuts across Alonzo, who then goes to Dalton. I'm not saying he's fully at fault for that, but he could just run wider and have more awareness. But we've said that on many, many occasions for Lance Stroll. And then the main race, again, he pitted very early, similar to what Gadsley did, didn't work out for him.
Starting point is 00:23:56 And goodness gracious me, he then gets a 10-second penalty for leaving the track and gaining an advantage. Ends up 17th. Shocking. Sure is. I've gone for a 4 out of 10 for Lance Strait. as well. Of course he beat Alonso in qualifying but you have to back it up
Starting point is 00:24:12 by delivering a good race which is normally where Lance is much better than in qualifying and actually he was pretty atrocious and you know dropped down the order got penalties was just generally quite well I say quite poor very poor you should be finishing 17th
Starting point is 00:24:28 in a race when you know you've qualified much higher than your teammate and you know when you've got the likes of Yuki Sonoda and Ocon in the points, Lance should not be finishing 17th. But then he did, so four. I'm now thinking four's a little bit too generous, but I've locked it in now.
Starting point is 00:24:49 The fans have given Lance a five. All right. All right, okay. Now the fans, you know, they're like Lance. Same as Ghazley, yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Let's go to Fernando Alonzo now. Sprint qualified eighth, finished the sprint in 17th.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Well, didn't technically really finish, did he? And then qualified for the main race in 15th and finished ninth. gotten for a six out of ten for Fernando Alonso. How does that make you feel? It's tough. I don't think you've ever said a six for Alonso maybe before. No, I did almost want to give him a seven because he got a point. But I think it is a, yeah, I think it is a wasted opportunity.
Starting point is 00:25:25 I have to sort of leave my fanboyism aside. One bit of fanboyism is I would say that Fernando Alonso getting two points in probably his worst weekend in ages is just very Fernando Alonzo things and I think the best drivers in the sport still managed to come away with points and deliver even in their worst worst times and I think I can't say that Alonzo's not had a bit of a shocker of a weekend really he should have got more from the Aston Martin do think in the sprint that it's definitely Hamilton's fault Lance has a bit to blame for turning in Alonzo has a bit to blame as well for going a bit deep. So he's not entirely innocent, but still unlucky there.
Starting point is 00:26:13 So yeah, it's a six out of ten for Fernando. I've also gone for a six out of ten. Of course, scored a couple of points, but he was just not working with the car this weekend. And it's a rare occasion to see Fernando Alonzo struggling, especially in comparison to his teammate in qualifying. Being out qualified by Lance Stroll on both occasions is almost, unforgivable, I would say, from Fernando's standards.
Starting point is 00:26:38 And then he fought tooth and nail, scored a couple of points, so it can't be any lower than a six. But I think that pretty much sums it up beautifully. And the fans also agree with a six out of ten. Oscar Piastri, sprint qualified sixth, finished the sprint in sixth, qualified for the main race in sixth, and finished 13th. Now, this is probably the highest grade for anyone to ever get for finishing 13th and scoring three points in the sprint. but I'm giving him a nine out of ten for Oscar Piastri because I think it was one of the most impressive drives from him in that main race especially to utilise the chaos a little bit at the start
Starting point is 00:27:20 with Perez nearly sending Vastappan into the shadow realm. Oscar placed his car beautifully, managed to get through on Charlerc was running in second. And who knows what could have happened in that second stint with Max going over that bollard, bit of damage? Could Oscar have won the race? There is a definite possibility that that could have happened. Instead, fought with Carlos Sines.
Starting point is 00:27:40 It didn't work out. Front wing broke. And then from there it was pain. But I still think he deserves a really high grade because Oscar drove incredibly well. So yeah, that's why I'm giving him a nine. It's not the highest grade because I'm giving him a 10 out of 10. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Which I know, and I'm going to argue the next one because you need to behave on the next one because you're going to clearly give Lando a 10 and Oscar was just as good as Lando all weekend. end, I would argue. Right. So let me go into the details. Let's fight.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Let's take our close off and fight. Let's finally argue. So Oscar beat Lando in the sprint, qualified better in the sprint. He got a better start in the race. He was on course to finish maybe second before a safety car. And at the end of the day, it's driver ratings and not results ratings. So he would have had a brilliant result if the race had pandan. normally and he was extremely unlucky.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I think that was the best drive of his career so far in a Grand Prix. And at the end of the day, the threshold for a 10 is lower in this race. And I'll explain why in the next one. Oh, Tommy has decided that the threshold is now lower for a 10. Interesting. Okay. All right. Well, I'm still sticking with a 9 because there were,
Starting point is 00:29:08 moments Oscar, you know, lost DRS to Charles LeCler, was originally faster than him in that first stint, which then allowed for Carlos to get DRS, and then he was losing position there, and just saying, very questionable 10 performance, but still very, very good, don't get, it's a high nine, as we like to call it. The fans gave Oscar Piastri an eight. Lando Norris, sprint qualified ninth, sprint result did not finish, qualified for the main race in fifth and finished first. I've gone for an eight. I've gone for a 10 out of 10 for Lando Norris.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Oh, okay, so you're still giving me a 10. Okay. I genuinely thought you were coming out with a nine then. I was about to drive to your house. But what I'd argue is that it kind of, it's not a perfect weekend. Like, I can't sit here and pretend that it's the perfect weekend. And that is why I've rated Oscar a 10 and Yuki Snowder a 10.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Because you kind of have to give Lando a 10 because you kind of have to give Lando a 10 because he's won his first race. He did it brilliantly against Vestappen, but it's not the perfect weekend. And I'll get cooked for this, but it's something that... But it's something that Carlos Sites said on his pod. And I think if you spoke,
Starting point is 00:30:22 we can't... No one's asked Lando this, but I think, like, I don't actually think that's the best drive Lando's had in his career. It's just funny how results work out. You know, sometimes Lando has dragged a very average McLaren to a second place.
Starting point is 00:30:40 And I think Carlos said something quite similar that he'd won races and he was like, well actually my best drive was when I finished third in a McLaren when I shouldn't have been there and they will know that they've driven the best. I think Lando himself would admit that that might not be his best weekend, but it has won.
Starting point is 00:30:57 So it's a 10 out of 10 because of what he did with Verstappen at the end. But if you look at the whole weekend, his sprint quality he let down there got taken out of the race which you know
Starting point is 00:31:12 and then he was behind Piastri fortunate with the safety car but what he did at the end was so good and so deserving of the 10 because he basically put all the haters to say like shut up I can do this
Starting point is 00:31:28 and he proved it so 10 out of 10 a lot of explaining from Tom on that one. I love that. Well, it would be a very boring series if we all just said. Oh, well done, Lando 10. No, we like cooking. We like cooking. I have also gone for a 10 out of 10 for Lando Norris.
Starting point is 00:31:46 It is interesting how you say that results are very, they skew the ratings quite a lot, but you cannot give anything other than a 10 for Lando and just the way that, as you say, he drove away at the end. Max, of course, did pick up some damage after his mistake on the bollard. So I would be interested to see how much time
Starting point is 00:32:03 he lost with that slight floor damage that he got from that. But Lando just drove away. Just absolutely nerves of steel put in the position that he's been longing for for so, so long since Russia 2021 and he delivered. You can say it now. Yeah, exactly. He's now a win. There's now a win on Lando's career books, which is lovely.
Starting point is 00:32:27 The sprint, of course, he messed up in, well, he messed up, McLaren messed up. There was a lot of talk about how they worked those soft tires before the run. But either or, made up for it in the race, incredible. You could see throughout the race that he wasn't in a good position because he was at the back of the sort of top field, but his pace was so, so good, especially on those mediums towards the end of the stint. And look, yeah, he got fortunate with the safety car,
Starting point is 00:32:52 but he also kept those mediums in a good window to go as long as possible to put himself in that position that he could gain from the safety car. Like, to be there. Yeah, and we'll get on to Carlos next, who constantly said he was going to win the race had he got fortunate with the safety car, which we will discuss shortly. But Lando was the one to gain from that,
Starting point is 00:33:12 and I think he still would have gone a few more laps because he was absolutely cooking on those medium tyres. So 10 out of 10, and the fans also gave Lando a 10. Carlos Sines, sprint quality fifth, finished the sprint in fifth, qualified third, finished fifth. I've gone for a 7 out of 10 for Carlos Sines. Of course, he did pick up a penalty at the end, which demoted him from fourth to fifth. I will say that he still drove pretty well.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I think he was slightly unfortunate with how he clipped Oscar's front wing. It wasn't particularly aggressive or a horrendously bad move. It was just more of an unfortunate circumstance, I would say, for Carlos, just slightly breaking late. We've seen a lot of drivers making mistakes into there, and Oscar's front wing was there like, hey! and then unfortunately broke because of it. That being said, yeah, Carlos, what on earth? I love how even Max Verstappen was like, you know what, Lando, congratulations. You won.
Starting point is 00:34:12 If my mother had balls, she'd be my dad, that sort of stuff. Carlos comes out of it and is like, I would have won that race. Had I got more fortunate with the safety car, I was ahead of Lando, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't know whether Carlos would have won that race. I mean, firstly, that would have been unbelievable had he, again, utilised or extracted the maximum as soon as Max has a problem. But I'm not convinced. He was slightly slower than Shal all weekend.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I love how there's not been any talk about Sharloklau back on top in that particular teammate rivalry. It seems like people only gas up on one particular side of that. But still, Carlos had a good weekend, but it's, yeah, no more than a seven for me. I have gone for a seven out of ten for Carlos Sites as well. it was a good drive but not hugely special
Starting point is 00:35:02 I think the you know the Pia Street incident was out of control and you know he got he got beaten by he was out of control or the car was he was out of control wow you're saying Carlos just over the top of it
Starting point is 00:35:16 no the car was out of control but like he was driving the car the way that could be construed was like Carlos was out of control he was Kevin Magnusing no no okay just to save that Just to clarify this one.
Starting point is 00:35:29 He, he, he, it was a ambitious move that didn't quite, quite pay off. And yeah, it was, it was not good. And I think the penalty was deserved because we've not spoken since he actually got one. It was, I think it was a good penalty to not, I don't think it was worthy of like, you know, where people give like a 20 second time penalty at the end, just to five seconds is. I do wonder though, how, why is it now five? for that. I thought everything was now 10 and above. So why the stewards now saying five again? I'm sure there is something in the rule book somewhere. Is there? Yeah, but everything we've
Starting point is 00:36:06 true though, because I think it is worthy of a five, like it's not a 10 or a 20. But I thought the minimum we were now working with, perhaps there's difference between post-race and, yeah, I was going to say, maybe that. Maybe in the race, they can only give it, but I think the penalties need a overhaul anyway, but that's for another podcast. Yeah, seven for Carlos. beaten by Shal all weekend. Do you think he would have won? Had he got fortunate with the safety car? No chance.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I don't know what he's... I really don't. He would have won if Sergio Perez had sent Max into the Shadow Realm because it probably would have taken Max out. Charle would have got squeezed on the outside and Carlos probably would have gone through and maybe quite comfortably won the race.
Starting point is 00:36:47 No, Carlos was the one that would have got collected because he had a better start than Shal. Yeah, but I thought he got a better start from shawl because he went round the outside whereas Carlos was the one that had to get out of it so he was the one that was nearly collected it was Carlos and Max that were two and then Perez went straight
Starting point is 00:37:06 through the middle like hey but no I don't believe I don't believe Carlos would would have won I think that was very very ambitious indeed I think it's probably one of those I think it was more frustration from knowing what happened with Lando yeah because everyone pitted almost everyone pitted just before
Starting point is 00:37:24 so I can understand a lot of drivers going, well, if I was in Landau's position, I'd have won, because he obviously got a huge advantage. Well, if my mum are bulls. Anyway, the fans gave Carlos a seven as well. Charlotte Clare, sprint qualified second, finish the sprint in second, qualified second, and finish the main race in third. Go on. Give it. Give it. I know you think of between an eight and a nine, but I think you need to give him a nine. No, not actually. Oh, nine or a ten. Lovely, ten. Take it. Wow, are you going to think about a ten? That's crazy. Oh God
Starting point is 00:37:59 Who's the Charlotte Claire Yeah yeah gone Charlotte Claire gets a 10 out of 10 Looking at those results Blumen heck What is going on it? I'm being very generous here It's the 10 Grand Prix
Starting point is 00:38:08 I know I kind of wish I'd given All of those drivers are 9 now But I think it is a It is a 10 Based on the others Wow Now I've committed to the 10
Starting point is 00:38:19 I'm thinking about those other drivers I'm thinking about those other drivers Botas 10 Yeah No you look at the 10 Look at those results. Second, second, second, second, third. Like, what more could he have done, really?
Starting point is 00:38:32 I mean, one of them is literally just qualifying then where they start. You've just read out there. Yeah, I know. Sorry. But still, sorry. Second, second, second third. He has done everything he could. It's hard to fault him.
Starting point is 00:38:51 So if I'm going by the same logic that I've given Lando a 10 and Oscar a 10 and Yuki a 10, then it's got to be a 10. So well done, Charles LeClaire. I think he was very, very impressive. Delivered in qualifying. It was the shell that we know in qualifying in particular. And then raced brilliantly as well and delivered, again, just getting the maximum, the exact maximum he could from Ferrari.
Starting point is 00:39:15 And I think, despite everyone saying for a long time how Washington has been this season, I think in terms of getting the most out of the car every single, every single weekend, I'd probably say other than Max, he's probably been the driver that's done that the most. Well, he's finished in the top four in every single Grand Prix, and he continues that trend after this weekend. I cannot give him a 10. I'm going to give him a 9. Of course, he made that error in FP1, which put him on the back foot a little bit, so you do wonder had he had some more learnings. Maybe he would have been a little bit quicker, but who knows? But then, yeah, I can't give him a 10 for a third place. Max Verstappen was very much struggling in that at the end of that
Starting point is 00:40:03 race. Yeah, no, don't you, don't you dare. All right, you've locked in a 10 now. That's crazy. So yeah, I think that had he beaten Max Verstappen, maybe I would have flirted with a 10, but instead, it's a nine from me. This is your last chance, Tommy, if you wanted to change it. Yes, nine. Something was in your coffee this morning, sir, because you are feeling. very, very generous. The fans gave Charles LeCler an eight. So Tommy, just to clarify, gave a nine, the same as me.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Right. Should we take a moment to deep breaths now? Is George Russell about to get a 10? Is this what you're going to? Yes, he is actually. Yeah, okay. George Russell, sprint qualified 11th, finished the sprint in 12th, qualified for the main race in 7th and finished 8th.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I've gone for a 6 out of 10 for George Russell this weekend. Not particularly impressive at any stage. He got absolutely chefed on in the. the main race by Lewis Hamilton. Considering there was a safety car and to finish almost 20 seconds behind his teammate, there were mistakes in there. It just wasn't a particularly impressive weekend from George at all. Of course, scored a few points in eighth, but apart from that, really nothing to write
Starting point is 00:41:14 home about. And yeah, a disappointing weekend for George, who had occasionally been looking a lot better than Hamilton this year, but not this weekend. Indeed. I've gone for a five out of ten. George Russell. It was a very poor weekend, really. Like I say, Hamilton was much more impressive in the main race.
Starting point is 00:41:37 And then even in the sprint, George was nowhere. I think he said himself that he was stuck in a DRS train and how boring it was and stuff like that. But he didn't qualify well at all. So, yeah, not a very good weekend from George, who has been, like you say, looking more. on top of Hamilton through more races, I think. Yeah, I mean, the record coming into this was like,
Starting point is 00:42:06 I can't remember which way around it was, but either he'd out-qualified Hamilton 5-0 and then beaten him 4-1 or something. It was very heavily in George's favour. Yeah, it was. So I hope for his sake it doesn't now start to swing the other way. The fans gave George a six. Lewis Hamilton, sprint qualified 12th,
Starting point is 00:42:25 finished the sprint in 16th, qualified in 8th for the main race and finished 6th. I have gone for an 8 out of 10 for Lewis Hamilton, which may seem very generous, but I think his Grand Prix was fantastic, just to cover off the sprint. Obviously, it went not very well at all. I completely agree, Frank.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Yeah, Frank's fine. Yeah, he, in the sprint, the fact that he was unfortunate it to get kind of magnusined and it was difficult to overtake but I think it was his fault for speeding in the pits and dropping out there
Starting point is 00:43:06 but in the main race very impressive you know was fighting more where that the car was nowhere near where it should be and Hamilton was fighting
Starting point is 00:43:20 those top runners his move on Piastri in particular was just beautiful gorgeous it really was so yeah okay yeah I've also I've also gone for an 8 out of 10
Starting point is 00:43:31 for Lewis Hamilton he was fighting Perez which I don't know if that says more about Czechos racing it does Lewis's but either or Lewis as I mentioned in George Russell segment was much much quicker
Starting point is 00:43:43 throughout the main Grand Prix of course the sprint he absolutely deserved a penalty for that move and it was thurging on desperate from starting 12th and needing to
Starting point is 00:43:56 to gain a few places at the start, and that caused a rather big domino effect into the two Aston's. But the main race, you can't fault him, really. He really did give it everything, and he seemed quite happy as well at the end with the fact that he was fighting one Red Bull. So yeah, I'm giving him an eight, and the fans gave him a seven. Sergio Perez, sprint qualified third, finished the sprint in third, qualified for the main race in fourth, and finished fourth due to Carlos' penalty. I have gone four It depends how you look at this one I'm going to give it Perez
Starting point is 00:44:33 I'm going to give him a seven I was flirting with a six or a seven but I'll give him a seven because the Red Bull wasn't anywhere near as dominant as the rest of the weekend season sorry and to finish third and then obviously get fourth as well it was by no mean feat
Starting point is 00:44:50 an incredible weekend for Perez but if you look at where Max was it's not a disaster. He's very lucky to not get a zero after the first corner of the first lap of the main race. My goodness me, he needs to buy a lottery ticket after that because it was, I've never seen a closer non-impact, I think, for a very, very long time. But yeah, it was a good enough race, but nothing really too crazy. So a seven. Yeah, he was a millimeter away.
Starting point is 00:45:24 from getting a zero, like you say, but I have gone for a seven as well. I nearly gave him a six, but then you look at actually what he's achieved in the race. I think when I, the reason for thinking a six and is because I think it's the frustration of watching a race like that. And Perez should be winning these races that Max either has a problem or a rare off day or you know Max has made a mistake and Perra should be the one picking up the pieces so he's at but he's absolutely nowhere near doing that and I think that's where the frustration lies where in in the sort of like when you're kind of looking into it you're like oh god Peres what are you doing
Starting point is 00:46:13 but then you actually look on paper that he's third third fourth fourth and it's solid enough like it's not nothing spectacular but I can't give him a six for getting, you know, a good amount of points on the board. I know he's in a Red Bull, but I don't think that car is as dominant as some people seem to think. It's still a very good car, but it's not, you know, 40 seconds clear of the field like people, some people think. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:42 And Max, it further gives Max more applaudits for the fact of what he's done with that car. over the last couple of seasons and obviously this season Perez lacking maybe a few tents and he's in the pack especially this weekend Max didn't have that advantage
Starting point is 00:46:59 and then Perez still scored some decent points if that's a bad race for Perez compared to last year he's going to take it every single day being fourth
Starting point is 00:47:09 and then third in the sprint it's not bad at all the fans gave Perez a six and finally Max Vestappan sprint qualified first finished the sprint in first, qualified first, finished second. Yeah, he's so washed.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Giving him nine out of ten for Max because the mistake basically. He was obviously incredibly unlucky with the safety car and I will give him props. I know you wrote a tweet about it similar that he could have quite easily completely, downplayed and overshadows Lando's victory by kicking off that the safety car completely effed up and almost put Lando a whole lap ahead which Max was saying on the radio
Starting point is 00:48:00 so because you can argue that had it been picked up normally he might have done but like he said so brilliantly that is the way it goes and Max has benefited from the safety car before so has he? I can't remember what race it was actually. Which Grand Prix was it? Lap cars may overtake? So the reason he's not getting a 10 is because he made that mistake. And while the VSC that was caused by the Ballard did not affect his race at all really,
Starting point is 00:48:37 when you watch the replay, you can see that he'd take a big old chunk out of his floor, which makes you wonder if he'd had the normal downforce that he had, if he could have caught and challenged and passed Lando. So it's a rare, pathetic nine out of ten for Max Verstappen. He needs to pick up his game. He's knocking his average down. That's crazy, isn't it? I've also gone for a nine out of ten for Max Verstappen.
Starting point is 00:49:05 The mistake that he made, albeit not a massive one in the sense of what it cost him, still second place, but it was a mistake and may well have given us a showdown remember had he not picked up that damage. So yeah, it's a nine out of ten, but it was, I thought, you know, giving him the biggest flop, and then he's first in quality for the sprint, first in the sprint, qualified first for the main race. I was thinking, no chance. The biggest flop isn't coming in, and then boom, the bollard of dreams gave Lando Norris
Starting point is 00:49:36 his first victory. The fans also gave Max a nine, and that is it. Who is our P1? That was the strangest nine I've ever said in my life. That a bit too much. Yes, I did. And it's fine. We like difference and other winners.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Who is our P1? Well, Tommy's given everybody a 10, so it's going to be quite difficult for you to decide who you want to give it to Tommy. But mine is, of course, Lando Norris. Congratulations to Lando for that 10 out of 10. Unbelievable. I'm still buzzing from ear to ear for how he is a race winner now. And I'm so happy for him.
Starting point is 00:50:12 and I think that 1% recovery picture sums up that he also enjoyed that evening and probably into the morning as well. So yeah, my P1 is Lando. Mine is also Lando Norris. It's close between him and Piaastre in terms of performance for the whole weekend. But Lando gets it and well deserved as well because, you know, it's so good that he's finally just settled. that debate because it's been a long time coming and it's going to be
Starting point is 00:50:48 fascinating to see if he can get some more wins now because I did worry that he was maybe getting in his own head a little bit I don't think he was losing his confidence but he was starting to reply to memes online and it was becoming such a thing like I've seen you know how
Starting point is 00:51:08 the TikTok algorithm like finds all these old videos and things. And I saw a clip of someone like shouting to him at the Australian Grand Prix like, Lando, when are you going to win a race? And he like, he stuck his middle finger up at them and things like that. And yeah, I'm so glad that he's just finally put that debate to rest. Yeah, I genuinely believe that this is the start of something very, very good for Lando now.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I think he'll drive with a confidence that we've not seen before, maybe that cutting edge as well that maybe alluded him before getting a race win. Now I think he will, yeah, I'm very excited. to see what he can achieve. I think he wins another race this year. 100%. I think Silverstone is a very exciting point for a lot of British fans. So we will see.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Right, that is it. Thank you, everybody, for watching and for listening to this driver ratings. Tommy, what are your final thoughts, sir? Final thoughts is that just remember with my ratings that I'm rating the drives and not just the result. Oh, mate, they've already in the comments. How could you give Oscar the same? as Lando. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Because he drove one. It's fine. Keep feeding that algorithm. Everybody, thank you. Thanks a lot, everybody. We'll see you soon for another bit of content. Imola, of course, next weekend. And we'll have some stuff for you, I'm sure.
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