P1 with Matt and Tommy - Our 2023 F1 Driver Ratings: P10–P1

Episode Date: November 30, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast. You join us here in the middle of an intense debate around who have we put as our average scores from 10th to first. Let's find out. Okay, we're now into the top 10. Why don't you start Tommy for this half? Okay, so P10, I have gone for George Russell. 6.4. I've gone for, sorry.
Starting point is 00:00:33 The scores have dictated. The average score. is George Russell 6.5 out of 10? Yeah, George hasn't had the best of years. I think him being so low, I was very critical and harsh. I mean, he was harsh on himself in Singapore. I was. I gave him a 1 out of 10 for essentially throwing away what I thought was victory. You know, that should have been, that was the chance to beat Max Verstappen. He had it there and threw it away. away with a big mistake. And yeah, it was a shame for him.
Starting point is 00:01:11 And then maybe got knocked a bit confidence because he had a few difficult races. But he has shown those moments where we have seen the old George Russell where, you know, the last race in Abu Dhabi, brilliant, Qatar as well, really, really good. And he did start the year quite strongly, but there was that stage in the middle where It really didn't feel like he was getting the most out of the car and Hamilton was just consistently putting in podiums and really good results. And George was like dropping further and further behind in the points.
Starting point is 00:01:49 So, yeah, it's all very close between these drivers, though, but George's P-10 for me. My P-10 is Pierre Gassley with an average grade of 6.6. The scores would suggest from both of us that because Ghazly is ahead of Ockon that he outperformed his teammate. We both thought that he was going to struggle at Alpine just by going up against Ocon
Starting point is 00:02:14 and the rivalry that they have and oh, they don't like each other and this, that and the other. And we thought they'd come together a thousand times, but they actually didn't. And Gazley, yeah, he had some pretty brilliant performances. Zanvort, he got given a 10 out of 10 there. And overall, I think he can be very proud of his performance,
Starting point is 00:02:33 especially towards the end of the year from sort of Austin. He's been performing very well indeed. And yeah, it does, it's a bit of a shame. Obviously, the Alpine weren't really fighting anybody apart from just trying to score points towards the end of the year and nothing really would change there. But, yeah, Gassley, I think, solid. You know, to beat Ocon is no mean feat
Starting point is 00:02:56 going into the backyard of where Esty Besty has been. P9, Pierre Gassley, with a... 6.7 average grade. This surprised me a lot. And I think, yeah, Gassley's quietly had a good season. I think he's shone more than O'Con in a car that's been difficult to show
Starting point is 00:03:19 what he can do. Maybe at the start of the season, O'Con looked the better driver, but after the summer break, you know, the Dutch Grand Prix is the one that stands out. P3 is absolutely, you know, amazing. And then a couple of six places as well. Even in Vegas, he was doing very well in the last two Grand Prix is running in the points, but got screwed a bit by strategy and some bad luck.
Starting point is 00:03:52 And yeah, Gazley looks like he's got on top of that Alpine now and looks the stronger driver than Ocon, which is something I didn't predict, but fair play to him, he's definitely done a very good job. And yeah, he's P9 for me. P9 for me is Oscar Piastri with an average grade of 6.6. And I think this driver is most susceptible to recency bias, where I'm sure everyone has now put him number one if they were to choose of recent times. But Oscar Piestri, I think overall has had a very impressive rookie season. Of course, he's had some standout moments in Silverstone and Qatar, of course, winning the sprint there. And yes, you know, he's not any, he's not in the top five,
Starting point is 00:04:40 but I don't think he belongs to be in the top five. He had a slow start. I think he was getting beaten by Lando quite comprehensively, just getting to grips with the car. And yeah, and then eventually it sort of clicked. And I think Silverstone was the big sort of turning point for him where he was there. And we all kind of expected him to fall away
Starting point is 00:04:58 from that fight between Norris and Vestappen, but he didn't. And then he got a little bit unlucky and should have been on the podium. And yeah, since then, he kind of, yeah, just delivered almost week after week. Qualifying has been really impressive from Oscar. Race pace has been a bit of a factor that he needs to work on going into next year and understanding the tyres and how much you can push on them and, you know, sort of managing the tire wear a little bit better
Starting point is 00:05:22 because I think that's what he's, you know, actively said himself as well. But still, I think you should be very, very proud of himself, Oscar, because it was a brilliant rookie season. P8 for me is Oscar Piastri 6.7. Like you say, I think, I've seen a lot of lists that I've put in maybe very high up. And don't get me wrong, he's had a very good season. He's impressed a lot as a rookie, particularly when we've seen how Daniel Ricardo did in the McLaren against Lando. And there's a lot of talk of like, oh, you know, is Oscar going to suffer the same fate?
Starting point is 00:05:55 And Lando's been the stronger driver, of course, but Oscar's done a very, very good job. and some really, really strong moments. I mean, for him to get a sprint win in his first year when no one really got wins other than Red Bull and particularly Maxa Stappen. So incredible performance there in Qatar and the sprint. And then also, you know, once that McLaren got good, he did just get better and better.
Starting point is 00:06:24 And could match Lando in qualifying a lot of the time and sometimes in the race base would drop back a little bit. But what a talent. And he's got a very bright future ahead of him and is basically shown that McLaren made absolutely the right call to go through all that hoo-ha to get him. Hoo-har, wow. P8 for me is Carlos Sines with a 6.6 average grade.
Starting point is 00:06:56 The only driver that wasn't in a Red Bull to win a race this year. But eighth best for me this season in terms of performances. He's had a few crashes this year. He had the upper hand at times against Charlerclair, which was really impressive. And I think now that we understand, perhaps the direction that the car took,
Starting point is 00:07:20 Ferrari took, sorry, it kind of wasn't working in Charlotte, Clair's favour. And since Japan, it's really turned around for him. But signs, yeah, He had a great sort of stint Zanvort, Italy, Singapore. He got three back to back to back tens from me and you as well, Tommy, which really thrust his scores up a lot higher. But I think Carlos has had a decent season.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I think it's kind of where I expect him to be in terms of his relative performance to Charles Lecler. Charle is one of, if not the fastest driver over one lap. And if Carlos can get anywhere near during a Grand Prix weekend, then he's done a really good job. So I don't think he can be too sad about his whole season. And to get that win, obviously, is going to mean a lot to him. And yeah, that's an achievement that nobody else can say that wasn't in the Red Bull Camp.
Starting point is 00:08:09 P7 for me is Carlos Sites with a 6.9. Carlos has had a strange season because if you look at our midseason driver ratings, he was down in about 12th, I think, for us and was quite low down. but like you say he went on that absolutely goated run after we did our interview with him and got three tens three turns in a row the P1 curse that normally happens he saw our mid-season driver ratings and went I want to be higher 10 10 10 yeah which is crazy and then he's been a lot more consistent but maybe went back to being a bit slower than than child but still you know pretty pretty close
Starting point is 00:08:55 to him. So I think, yeah, it's a fair reflection on his season. But of course, even though he dropped down in that battle to fourth at the end, you're absolutely taking a win all day, every day. And he was the only driver that could do that. And Singapore, in particular, we just have to, as we're reflecting on the season, commend that drive because he was so smart what he did to tow Lando along to stop the quick Mercedes from catching him. It was a brilliant drive and a well-deserved win. So yeah, overall, I think a good season for Carlos. P-7, George Russell, with an average grade of seven from me. And no, apparently I am a George Russell fan boy. I'll put my hands up and say that I think he's too high. I think I backed him a lot harder than you did after Singapore.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I gave him a four, you gave him a one. You know, you can judge it how you like on that one. But yeah, he got, to be fair, he's only had one 10 from me the entire year. But I think I've just kind of averaged him just a little bit higher. And he's come out the other side of this sort of gaggle of drivers. But yeah, it's not been a great season for George. I think if I was to move him, I'd probably put him P9 on my list, I imagine, above Gassley. but below Piastrian signs.
Starting point is 00:10:24 But look, he had moments for sure. Of course, Australia was one of them. He scored quite a few nines from me as well. And obviously, finishing the season off really strong as well in Abu Dhabi. I think this might have been just a blip of a season for him, because if you look at the season before that, he outscored Hamilton. Of course, Hamilton didn't have the best of luck at times.
Starting point is 00:10:47 And yeah, I think how many points did he finish away in the end? He finished eighth in the standings, 25 points behind Carlos. So he was a little bit behind that battle for fourth. But I still think he's got the talent, and he'll get there for sure. Definitely. P6 for me is Alex Albin with a score of 7 out of 10 average score. Of course, he's had a brilliant year. The Williams is now a much better car where you can actually show something there.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And I think Alex delivered. with a car that yeah, can finally, like Williams could actually show what they could do. Canada was the standout, you know, brilliant drive there, also Monza where we know that Williams are always good at. But Alex was, you know, consistently good. He got a lot of points for Williams, obviously like all the points to finish 13th in the championship. Of course, I at the start of the season thought Williams would be the worst car by a mile only to finish way down the the order, but no, he got a lot of points. He's a very hard driver to judge because, of course, his teammate hasn't scored many points,
Starting point is 00:12:01 is a rookie, and with that always comes challenges of how good that car actually is if there was a different driver in it, but Alex can be very, very proud of his season. I know some people have put him really high up, some others, like, only just in the top 10. He's a very hard driver's grade, but I don't think you can deny that. he's had a very, very good season. And I'm really, really pleased for him that he's turned, turned his career around. It has to be said, he's one of, he's now become a very highly rated driver after essentially being embarrassed by Vestappen.
Starting point is 00:12:37 And now he's turned his whole career around. It's really good to see. P6 for me is Charle-le-Cleur for the 7.1 average grade. Who's the real Charle-Cleur fan boy on this podcast? We are about to question, that. Charles had a pretty decent season, especially as I mentioned, sort of after Japan, he's been brilliant almost every weekend. And yeah, he's made the odd error here and there, but like, realistically, he's been pushing that car to try and get it to a level that it doesn't belong.
Starting point is 00:13:14 That's not, it wasn't the 2022 Ferrari at the start of that year. That was a car that was goaded and I thought they were going to win the championship. year it's been a bit more of a struggle. They've been obviously great in qualifying and Lecler has tried to thrust that car as high as he possibly can in the race. I think he's had five poles this year. So none of them converted, but we don't want to talk about that. We want to talk about the poles because, you know, he is unbelievable over one lap. And do I think he is the sixth best driver this year? I've maybe put him one higher, but that's recently bias. P5 for me is Charlotte Claire with a 7.3.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Yeah, there's been moments where maybe come into question whether he's having a particularly good year, but I think overall he's been very, very good and particularly at the end of the season after that blip that he had where there was all this talk of like, oh, Carlos has suddenly become the goat and Shell was maybe struggling a bit and of course had the odd mistake as well
Starting point is 00:14:25 and then he's just been brilliant towards the end of the season, a really strong end to the season. And yeah, for all the banter about his poll to win ratio because it's gone on very long now, it's just him putting that car because he's unbelievable over one lap and Ferrari a just a less extreme version of Hasse where essentially they can qualify really well, but then just don't have any race pace and cook the tyres.
Starting point is 00:14:59 But we know how good Charlotte-Claire can be. And I think, yeah, he's had a very good, well, a good year, I'd say. Maybe not very, very good. But he's shown that he is one of the top drivers, definitely. P5 for me, Alex Albon. What a season this man has had. You go back a few years and when he was kicked out of Red Bull, you're wondering how on earth is he going to be able to turn his career around?
Starting point is 00:15:29 But he did exactly the right thing of going to Williams. And eventually some team will snap him up, especially after this year. He's got a lot more experience under his belt. And he's been carrying that team. He's been a team leader for Williams. And also, yeah, being able to deliver, seventh in the team's championship,
Starting point is 00:15:50 the constructive championship for them is hugely beneficial. I'm sure James Fowles will be taking him out for dinner and all sorts, you know, because Logan scored one point. So Alex just, I really hope when he eventually gets that call up to a top team that he doesn't just kind of crumble like he did when he went to Red Ball and that expectation.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Because of course, it is, as a XF1 driver myself, It's a lot easier to drive for a worse team and perform really well occasionally than it is to drive at a great team and have to deliver great performances every single week where you're under the spotlight. That is something that we have to obviously take into account when we move forward. But of this season, Alex has done a brilliant job and the average score reflects that. P4 is Lando Norris with 7.5 out of 10. Landau, of course, has been, I'd say probably one of the stars of the season,
Starting point is 00:16:49 particularly after Austria when they got the upgrades. You know, you look at, I think this is maybe why he's fourth, because a lot of people will no doubt have said second or ever, but the start of the season, McLaren weren't really there. It was hard for him to show what he could do, but as soon as that car was there, boy, did he deliver. you know as soon as the McLaren was upgraded I gave him three straight tens in a row for Austria, Silverstone and Hungary and then he was just bagging podiums all the time pretty much so yeah a really
Starting point is 00:17:24 good season for Lando I think if I'm not wrong he's finished second five times six times this season which is painful because of course still doesn't have that first win yet but he's finished second six times in a season where Max basically won everything. But it's a fantastic year and it just showed, like Lando just showed that he is absolutely like future, you can say future world champion worthy even though he's not won a race yet. I don't think that's an unfair thing to say because he's got what it takes, 100%.
Starting point is 00:18:00 P4 for me, Lewis Hamilton, with a 7.3 average grade. and I think after the mid-season review, the top three felt like they were untouchable. But Hamilton has moved down to fourth for me after the whole season. And interestingly, I look at both of us, and we have not given him one 10 the entire year, neither of us. A lot of nines, a lot of very consistent great performances, which has obviously got him as high as he has on our charts,
Starting point is 00:18:34 on our average grades. But I did find that quite interesting to make. mention. That being said, he's had one outlier, which was Qatar, which of course we don't need to go into as we know exactly what happened there. The rest, he's scored a few sixes and then the rest of seven, eights and nine's. And it's been a very consistent performance for Hamilton over the course of the year. A bit of a flop towards the end in Brazil and Abu Dhabi and struggling and qualifying especially.
Starting point is 00:19:00 But give him a good car and Hamilton will perform. and I just hope next year that Mercedes sort it out. Like, they're kind of, I know we speak about Russell going under the radar, but I feel like Mercedes are going under the radar of not figuring out their car yet. Like, come on.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Hamilton doesn't have another 10 years to win another title, and I'd love to see him take on Vastappen and Lecler and Norris and whoever it might be. Let's have a 20-way fight, the title, please. But yeah, Hamilton for me is fourth. Third for me, is Lewis Hamilton with 7.5 out of 10 average score. He actually beat Lando by one single point when it's totaled together.
Starting point is 00:19:47 The average was obviously the same, but it worked out that it was like one point. That's why he's ahead of Lando. So incredibly... You had KMAG earlier. You had KMAG tying with someone and you said he had a better seven out of ten. Because he's got exactly the same points. Oh, right. So then you went back down.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah, yeah. So points I've done. where because he's actually got a better score even though the average sounds like it's the same but it's not like he's done better. Isn't it crazy that Hamilton has finished ahead of you, finished ahead of you, finished ahead of Norris
Starting point is 00:20:17 and you've given Norris five, ten out of tens this year? It's crazy, isn't it? And it's funny you mentioned about Hamilton that we've not given him a 10. Maybe that is the fact that, you know, he's won so many titles, so many races. And even when he puts that,
Starting point is 00:20:34 Mercedes into P2 because we're so used to him winning, maybe there's that little bit of, oh, you can't give Hamilton a 10 for not winning a race. Like he's Lewis Hamilton. Maybe that's something that goes against him. So what we're saying is we should have maybe given him a few tens. Maybe. But to be fair, I think Hamilton's strongest asset, and it's quite clear this year, you take Qatar out of the mix and he's probably finishing easily comfortable.
Starting point is 00:21:04 third because that's a result that's knocked him way down. Is his consistency? The fact that he's managed to finish third in the title, even challenging Perez at one point, and it would have been a lot closer without that disqualification in America. He just went on a fantastic run of just bagging points and podiums and things like that. And we need to see Hamilton back at the front,
Starting point is 00:21:33 which is a mad thing to say because he dominated for so long. And it always happens in Formula One. You'll say it's absolutely crazy, but say Maxa Stappen doesn't win another race for two years, we'll be saying exactly the same thing, which is absolutely mad to think about now, but it will be the same where you want the great drivers at the front of the field, you want them to be battling for wins.
Starting point is 00:21:54 And I can't believe it's now been two seasons where Hamilton's not got that win, but he still had a fantastic season, probably quite underrated. I think maybe there'll be a few people that are surprised that he's third on my list, but I think he's had a very, very good season indeed and showed that, you know, he can, over a championship, be incredibly consistent, bag the points that he needs,
Starting point is 00:22:19 even when the car's not there. And, yeah, it's been a good season from Hamilton, definitely. Third for me, Lando Norris with a 7.6 average score. Lando this year has thrust himself into the equation of a potential world champion. I think he's gone into that sort of top echelon of discussions, just purely because he has proved time and time again that he can deliver when the car is there. He has made mistakes, don't get me wrong, and I'm sure recency bias will, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:52 a lot of people will be like, yeah, he's made a lot of mistakes in qualifying, and I completely note that. But he's also pushed that McLaren team forward. And, yeah, it's been a, you know, a brilliant season. I've given him six 10 out of tens, but it also shows that because he's not even, he hasn't finished second,
Starting point is 00:23:10 that there was a slower start to the year for Norris. I mean, I think if we just did from the summer break afterwards, he'd be finishing second. But yeah, Lando, very, very good. I can't wait to see what he can do next year. I'm really hopeful for McLaren as a whole next year. And I want to see that win. He needs that win.
Starting point is 00:23:30 And I know that there's a few people that hold it against me. he can't be in that, he can't be in that top remix he hasn't won a race. Jogon is all I'll say to that because it's absolutely ridiculous. He's shown many times this year that he has got what it takes.
Starting point is 00:23:43 And I think you said, Tommy, if it wasn't for Maxford Staff, it'd be a multiple race winner. He's not won a race in a season where no one else has won a race. How dare he? P2 is Fernando Alonzo with an average of 7.8.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Fernando just, I mean, his start to the year was absolutely unbelievable six podiums in the first eight races you know the astern was good no doubt but Fernando just had an unbelievable level of consistency when the asterner was good and then of course it dropped off a bit they weren't quite the same car but even then he was still scoring solid points finishes I'd actually maybe even argue that the standout for me was the Dutch Grand Prix where in wet conditions when that Aston was not very good and not a great car,
Starting point is 00:24:41 he just showed what he could do. It still showed that he was one of the best there is with a P2, absolutely amazing, like on the back of max at the end. And then somehow got another podium in Brazil. Yeah, it's been a great year for Fernando. I'm still absolutely gutted that he didn't get that win because I'd love to have seen it.
Starting point is 00:25:02 But if you'd have told me at the start of the season, even though I predicted that right at the last minute that I think his Aston move might actually be for the better, I could have never predicted that he'd end up with like eight podium finishes and finished fourth in the world title. Like fair play, the man has still got it 100%. And I just hope the Aston is even better next year, but I'm not holding out much hope.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And the cost cap hits to me. see how much they've spent for this year. For P2, Fernando Alonzo with a 7.7 average score. Yeah, it's funny. I was just looking through the scores and it just shows how important. Obviously, consistency is when it comes to these overall driver ratings because Alonzo has the same amount of 10 out of tens
Starting point is 00:25:47 as Carlos signs for me. And you can see just how different they are in terms of the leaderboard. But Alonzo was so good, as you say, at the start of the year. I graded him 9, 9, 8, 9, 10, 9. and then a few more tens, obviously, later on in the year as well. The Aston fell off, which was such a shame. I would have loved to have seen a full season of Fernando Alonzo
Starting point is 00:26:08 right at the front fighting Max Verstappen. But he almost delivered every single week without fail. I think there's a few moments, obviously Singapore being one of them, Mexico being another. But apart from that, I mean, just stunning. Stunning to watch Fernando Alonzo do what he does best. and the racecraft he showed in Brazil is some of the greatest I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Just the master was at work that day and it was great to watch. P1, start playing the Dutch National Anthem now. Drum roll please. Who could it be? It is, of course, Maxus Tappen with a pathetic average of just 9.7 out of 10 over a 22 race season.
Starting point is 00:26:53 It is, you mentioned, I saw a lot of people replying to a tweet I did about it's the greatest season there's ever been by a driver. And of course, the Twitter worries will always try and discredit things and stuff. But I think if you're discrediting Max's season, you're equal, you know, if you're a Hamilton fan or you think Schumack is the best or whatever and you're discrediting Max's season, you're discrediting your favorite drivers because, you know, you're, you know, if you're a Hamilton fan or you think Schumack is the best or whatever, and you're discrediting, because. they haven't been able to do what Max has done in a dominant car. So if you're insulting Max, you're insulting them as well because it's just diminishing their achievements as well, which is completely unfair. His season has been unbelievable. I've found essentially a bunch of stats that he's broken. So obviously we all know that he's broken the win record, win percentage, which is 86.3, which is absolutely bonkers.
Starting point is 00:27:53 which beats Ascari's record from 1952. Consecutive wins that he got, of course, most podiums. He's now scored the most points scored in consecutive races, which is 104, which beats Hamilton's record between 2018 and 2020. He's got the most points in a season this year. He's got the percentage of points in a season, which is 92.7% of all points you could possibly get he got this season, which shows that even in sprints and fastest lap,
Starting point is 00:28:23 and everything and sprint, yeah, sprints wins, all that kind of stuff, he's done that as well. Percentage of laps leds, he's broken Jim Clark's record from 1963. Wins from pole, broken Nigel Manza's record from 92. Races left winning the title only equaled Michael Schumacher's record from 2002, which I'm sure you'd be pleased about. My guy, Shumi. He's now, much to everyone's discussed, has been championship leader for 39 races in a row now. which beats Schumacher's record.
Starting point is 00:28:57 The last time someone else led was Spain, 2022, not sure who that was. Biggest gap to second in the championship. 290 points being from 2013. Percentage of points between first and second, 50% which beats Nigra Mansell's record from 92, and he's now also got the longest streak of converting polls to win, which is 16.
Starting point is 00:29:20 It's just the best season ever, and I don't know how you can dispute it. There we go. My God, you came prepared for that one, didn't he? Jesus. Well, I know I couldn't just do the... Well, what more is there to say? What more do you say?
Starting point is 00:29:33 No, I like that. I like that a lot. My P1, drum roll again, is Max Verstappen with an average score of 9.6. Washed. Completely washed. I am a Schumacher fan boy
Starting point is 00:29:50 through and through. And yet, this season was the most incredible thing I've ever seen from a driver. The consistency, the perfection that he showed on almost every single Grand Prix weekend is, and I've said it before
Starting point is 00:30:09 and I'll say it again, I don't think we'll see this again. Max, of course, had a car that worked really well to his liking, but his teammate wasn't finishing second every time. We know it's not an easy car to drive. Okay, it might be suited to his driving style. It doesn't win the race for him. It doesn't win 19 out of 22 races in a Grand Prix season. That's never happened before.
Starting point is 00:30:30 If you're slandering Max Verstappen because you are Team LH or Team Whoever you might be, just check yourself for a second because they've probably had a dominant season as well. They've had several dominant seasons, if they're Lewis Hamilton. Just put some respect on his name. We're not saying that Lewis Hamilton isn't a great champion or a great winner. or a great statistical goat. No, he's done his job those many years ago. Max is doing the job right now,
Starting point is 00:30:59 and we have to appreciate that because if we don't, it's just doing him a disservice, to be honest with you. And he'll play it down. Yeah, whatever, we'll go for the next win. But he knows deep down what he's done as well. And thoroughly, thoroughly impressive. I hope we never see it again
Starting point is 00:31:17 because I want competitiveness at the front. But it has happened, and we have to respect it. Here. Here. Here. Let's go to the non-full-time drivers then, because there's a couple of them. Liam Lawson, I went for a 7.8. I say I went. The average score was 7.8 from five races. I thought he was really good. Really impressive was Liam Lawson, especially coming out of the blocks being picked up out of nowhere. All right, stop doing Super Formula, wherever it was called. Come and do Formula One. And he is proven in those five is that he deserves a full-time Formula One seat. And if he is not on the grid in 2025,
Starting point is 00:31:57 it is an absolute disaster. Yeah, Liam Lawson got a 7.6 for me from the five race average. Which actually, if we'd included, Liam Lawson would have been second on the list for me and third on the list for you. Yeah, which is insane. Of course, it's skewed quite a lot that he's done very little races, but he delivered in those races.
Starting point is 00:32:19 You know, Qatar, we gave him quite a low grade because he had a bit of a mare, which was a shame to end his season on that. But he got into that car in probably the most difficult race he could have imagined at the Dutch Grand Prix, delivered a brilliant result. And then ended up, you know, scoring some points in Singapore, which was an incredibly tough race as well. So yeah, Liam did a fantastic job. Well done, Liam. And then finally, Daniel Ricardo, who's got an average score of 6.4 from me from seven races. Danny Rick's done a good job. He's had a couple of meh weekends and he's had a couple of really good weekends. And I'm hopeful for next year that Danny Rick can really get on top of the car and continue to grow and perform. I think Lawson definitely deserved to have the rest of the season, but that's the way the cookie grumbles. And he filled in for the reasons that we know. So Danny Rick, I hope that his wrist is okay. He'll never say that his wrist isn't okay, but I hope that he'll be fully fighting fit next year.
Starting point is 00:33:22 And yeah, I want to see him perform well. I don't think he should or would, we'll be going to Red Bull anytime soon, but let's see, let's see how it all unfolds. I had 6.7 average from seven races for Daniel Ricardo. Tough to kind of rate his season, because sometimes, you know, he had some incredible races and then sometimes looked a bit average. But I think that was just from the fact that his comeback was very stop-start,
Starting point is 00:33:53 you know, to come back, then get injured, then come back again. It's not the smoothest transition. Of course, he hadn't been in a Formula One car for a long time either when he jumped back in. So looking forward to next year, and I think we'll get a better indication of just how good Daniel Ricardo is when he has a full season under his belt. Lovely stuff and that is it. Thank you everybody, one and all for coming to this big old chat around the drivers and how we rated them from worst to best and their average grades. Let us know your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I'm sure you have already. And I hope you have enjoyed this series. If you have, please let us know in the comments and leave a like as well. That would be amazing. And subscribe if you haven't already because there's lots of. more content coming over the course of this of December and then of course going into next year as well in the new season. Tommy, what are your final thoughts? Final thoughts are thank you so much for agreeing with every single order of my list.
Starting point is 00:34:56 But joking aside, yeah. It's been fun to reminisce about the season. Not been the great season of all, but we'll have a lot more review content because there is a lot to talk about and we love waffling about Formula One even though there's no Formula One. for 96 days now. Stop reminding us Tommy and on that note we'll see you very soon. Bye-bye! P1 is a Stack production
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