P1 with Matt and Tommy - Our 2024 Italian GP predictions

Episode Date: August 29, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. We're here for the Italian Grand Prix. A race of dreams. A race where champions are born. I am so ready, Tommy, for Monza to just make all of my dreams come true. Wow. Yeah, you're not hyped at all. And no idea who you're going to predict.
Starting point is 00:00:34 It's anyone's guess. It is anyone's game. Let's relax here because, you know, who knows? Who knows what I will predict? But before we get into it, we wanted to bring you a little teaser of what you can expect when you sign up to our Patreon. This week's exclusive episode is a look back at Monza 2019. Woo-ho-ho-hoo!
Starting point is 00:00:53 The last time, Charlecler won at the Italian Grand Prix until this weekend, of course. Enjoy. Lap 53, then, the final lap of the race, Charles Lecler. He won in Spa. He wins in Monza was indeed the line shouted by Crofti. As he came home to finish the race in first place,
Starting point is 00:01:15 only 0.8 of a second ahead of Bottas. Hamilton was miles behind 35 seconds in P3. And Ricardo ended up finishing in fourth, and Holcomberg managed a sensational P5 in the Renault. He did. Yes, an incredible drive from Leclair and it was also a huge statement, the fact that Sebastian Vettel had joined Ferrari and was meant to be this driver that was going to be the next Michael Schumacher
Starting point is 00:01:44 had won those four titles with Red Bull and this was a proper statement from Charles to be like, no, I'm the number one driver having won. He'd had it in the previous year in Bahrain, he'd look like the quicker driver throughout the year anyway and for him to do it at Monza in front of the Tofosi was like a massive like this is my team now. I think that was a kind of moment that that kind of gets forgotten about
Starting point is 00:02:14 that it was such a statement on his teammate when that all was having, you know, has to be said, a very embarrassing spin that Charles was like the new hero of Ferrari because he was managed to win the race for the first time since Fernando Alonso in 2010 for Ferrari. And back to back, Vic. victories for Charles as well. So it was a very, very emotional time for him. And he felt like he could properly celebrate that one. Obviously, Spar had a lot of difficult moments there,
Starting point is 00:02:46 but you really felt the emotion after he won in Italy. And I guess the final question has to be, should LeCleur have been given a penalty? No, absolutely not. Next question. Probably should have, but I'm glad he didn't. I can imagine what that would have happened. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:03 It's funny in Formula One. and we're however much you think you're impartial we're all we all kind of we're all guilty of it that you kind of you want them to stick to the rules but also you don't want them to rob the battle for the lead we saw this in austria with max and landau that and this is this is the problem with formula one that rules are so kind of it's not black and white there are so many different incidents you can have, you can drive in so many different ways, you can push people off and say, well, actually, technically, they're on the track and I gave them a car's width and this is the the room. So we kind of want those rules to be implemented, but also we don't want, we don't want
Starting point is 00:03:52 to see the stewards having to make decisions when there's a battle for the lead. And yes, thankfully, this was only, this was of course, Michael Mammar. Massey's only controversial decision that he had to make throughout his career. I jest, of course. So if you fancy hearing the entire episode as well as our classic race podcasts for every race weekend plus add free episodes, access to our Discord, full videos of our driver interviews and early access to merch and tickets, then head to the link in the episode description to sign up now.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Right, let's get into our predictions. It's time. I'm so ready. for all of this to come into the world. Biggest good surprise, Ferrari. No builder. Love it. No team.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Sorry, no team. No driver. No specifics here apart from Ferrari. They are going to whip out the sexiest, fastest car of the weekend. I just... And you're going to whip... What? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:01 That's the sentence for our patron. That's wild. yeah I look Ferrari have had a poor run of form recently I mean Zanvort was decent but if you look at the last few it's been it's been a difficult time since Monaco basically but I think they've been cooking I think I think they've been they've thrown up as soon as we got out at Bahrain they're like well we're not going to win the championship let's get ready for Monza and Monaco
Starting point is 00:05:25 so it's going to happen Ferrari let's let's get surprising shall we come on lovely stuff my biggest good surprise is Sergio Perez it's not Ferrari it's not Ferrari this of course
Starting point is 00:05:42 I'm opening it up to interpretation it could be that he's the closest he's been to Maxisthapen all year it could be that it's the first weekend where he doesn't get one question about his
Starting point is 00:05:57 race seat we'll see interesting But no, I do think on paper it's not the most difficult of circuits of course
Starting point is 00:06:10 and Perez has done well in the past here and I feel like in theory he should be closer to Maxus Dappen so that is my thinking behind the biggest good surprise he's been closer than he has been in a while 17 seconds in Zandvoort Tommy
Starting point is 00:06:27 so you're saying even close than that I see it I see it let's get a biggest flop. Okay. Sorry in advance. Not that the flop has had much powers recently. Lando Norris. Lando Norris is my biggest flop,
Starting point is 00:06:42 mainly because he's off the back of Zandvoort where he won by 23 seconds. So if he wins by anything less than 22, we're in the money. But no, I believe that the McLaren hype is obviously going to be fully in force. And this is obviously just vibe. and Lando may well just win the Grand Prix
Starting point is 00:07:02 and none of this comes true. However, if McLaren finished third and fourth and Lando finishes fourth, we're talking. We're talking floppy. So we're opening it up again to a bit of who knows what it will be that I'll try and claim flop for. But Landon Norris, sorry. That is very interesting because biggest flop
Starting point is 00:07:24 I've gone for, McLaren, yeah. You have, you naughty man. I know. Similar thinking to you that McLaren have been dominant, of course, in Zandvo. But they have been so good at every track this year. And Monza is a very, very different track to all the others. You might even argue that it's the most different to any other track on the calendar, even Monaco. So that is my thinking behind going for McLaren.
Starting point is 00:07:58 of course like you said even if both McLaren's don't get on the podium their form has been that good that you can argue that I mean when was the last time they've had this streak
Starting point is 00:08:12 haven't they that's what they've been shouting about is the streak that they've had of podium when was the last time they weren't on the podium I don't know like really start of the season Japan Japan Yeah because every time
Starting point is 00:08:26 Oh No. Oh, sorry, yeah, Piastri was on the podium at Belgium. Yeah, so it's Japan, which is, goodness, knows how long ago. When was that like? April? Yeah, 7th of April. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Yeah. So that would be cash. Yeah, for sure. No, would. Yeah. Okay. Pole position. Charlotte Claire.
Starting point is 00:08:47 What? Nice. So, LeClau's getting pole position. Mike drop. No more said. I urge the FIA to not check the Ferrari car. after or inspect it
Starting point is 00:09:02 after you fly to Monza and inject it with nitrous look am I going to regret scoring zero points
Starting point is 00:09:12 probably but I did it with a smile on my face so this is my most delusional yet I am three points
Starting point is 00:09:24 behind you now still aren't I 'm still three behind I'm pretty sure you didn't extended you in Zamvort no sorry four behind now
Starting point is 00:09:30 oh Jesus I did okay I'm regretting everything Okay, look, come on. If Charlotte Clair gets pole, that's two points, yeah? All right, let's see this. Lovely. Charlotte Clair poll.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Proposition, I have gone for colour sites. Shut your mouth and bendo. You said patron the start of this episode, and you've just gone absolutely unhinged. Well, you started it. Yeah, true. my thinking behind it you know despite roasting you that you've gone
Starting point is 00:10:08 for Ferrari I also think they will be very quick around here do you it does it does feel like when I when I saw how bad they were in the slow corners at Zandvort that I wouldn't put it past them you know that there is this theory that they're basically like as soon as Monaco finished they're like right
Starting point is 00:10:30 we need to win Monza now forget the chance championship. 2026 is our year, so it doesn't really matter. We just want to get some... Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, maybe that is the thinking. And they did it last year. And Carlos was the one that did it last year,
Starting point is 00:10:45 because Charles has obviously been the better qualifier, but there aren't many corners, of course, at Monza, and it can be very close between them. That's why he went for Perez's biggest good surprise as well. You're like, there's not many corners, so you can't actually lose that much time. Exactly. Yeah, interesting.
Starting point is 00:11:03 I see it. I see it. I see it. Okay, let's go to our top three then, shall we? And in third position, I am locking in. Max for Stappen. Max will extend his championship lead. Spoiler alert.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Because I've flopped Norris, so you know, you can see where this is going. But yeah, Max for Stappen, third position. I have gone for colour sights. A little pole to P3. Wow. Ouch. did he do that last year as well? I think he did actually.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Yes, because he fought Charles right at the end, but it was the scariest thing of all time. It was. Yeah, I think, well, we'll see why later. Oh, you teasing man. Let's go to second place where I have put Carlos Sines on second of the podium. I don't know what kind of English grammar that is right now, but Carlos gets second because Ferrari will be the dominant,
Starting point is 00:12:07 Nice P2 I'm gonna regret all of this P2 I have gone for Charles Leclair Why
Starting point is 00:12:19 Why can you have just backed him For once in your life You shal hater I know I think I've given him like 10 out of tens In the last two driver ratings But I am a hater And to be fair
Starting point is 00:12:33 If I went for Charleclair You won't be able I could have gone tactical, yeah, and just gone for the same, copy you just to keep the lead, you know. God, what great content that would be, Tommy. Yeah, exactly. So I didn't do that. It'd just be me in the predictions.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Well, Tommy's gone for the same thing. Indeed. So, yeah, I've gone for a little P2 for Charles LeCler. No victory. No victory. For Ferrari, unless a Ferrari engine is winning. Hassah winning. No,
Starting point is 00:13:07 Joe Guan, you, oh, sorry, a spoiler. In first position, I have gone for Shaula. Maxfuss.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Charlotte Claire wins Monza. And we are all very happy. For audio listeners, I rotated 180 degrees on my chair for pure dramatic effect. Nice. Charlele is winning Monza
Starting point is 00:13:35 and even if it doesn't happen, I've imagined it right now, so it has happened in my head. right this second. Even if it doesn't happen, you'll be watching 2019 Italian Grand Prix during the watch-along.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I just pretend that it's the current race commenting all the way through it. We'll happily do that when they DNF on the first lap and we'll just change over to 2019. P1. I've gone for
Starting point is 00:13:58 Lewis Hamilton. Very rogue. The Ferrari engine? No, I was joking. Obviously I was going to go for a house win. Yeah. He's good around. Monza is one there
Starting point is 00:14:17 a lot I can see it being you know Hamilton wins I was going to Ferrari gets a bit of a cheer for a change
Starting point is 00:14:25 and yeah then we've got a very odd podium that is a bizarre podium that I mean we have
Starting point is 00:14:38 we have cooked this week so should we just lock in zero points now and just move on to the next one I've changed my mind
Starting point is 00:14:44 so many times of this one because Monza is so different and now the pecking order is so close. I've been like, oh, this team will be good. No, no, this team will be good. This team will be bad. Like, yeah, it's a difficult one to predict. But that is the beauty of predictions.
Starting point is 00:14:59 We can say whatever we want and it doesn't matter. Okay, let's go to our one crazy prediction and mine is Ferrari will score better than they did in Zanvort. Okay. A third and fifth, which is a great weekend for Ferrari.
Starting point is 00:15:16 they're going to do better than that. And I think that's a crazy prediction because they've been terrible since Monaco, so thank you. Fair enough. I will allow it. You will allow it. Well, there's no choice.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Any Ferrari predictions can straight through for Italian. Come on, pre. My prediction, one crazy prediction, is, and it kind of goes with my top three prediction, but I'm going to lock in no Red Bull or McLaren on the podium, which has not happened
Starting point is 00:15:45 all season. So it's a very bold prediction. But if it's going to happen anywhere, I believe it will be Monza. Wow. So that's what I'm going for. Wow, wow, wow. Oh my goodness gracious,
Starting point is 00:15:59 May, we have been smoking on some serious pack. Yeah. And we're going to look back at this in the race podcast and go, what the hell were we thinking? Okay, let's go to the three crazy predictions from you wonderful lots. P1, Patreon.
Starting point is 00:16:15 member read, Alex Albon qualifies top of Formula B. Very possible. The old Williams classic. They're like, no, no, no, we're doing a more overall package for the season. Actually, whip out the old Williams. We'll go for that for Monza. Can I just say I'm proud of us for not going anything Williams related for Monza for biggest good surprise?
Starting point is 00:16:35 I mean, look, I only went for Ferrari and that was it. P1 Patreon member Sam, Ferrari Pole, but not a win. Uh. And then finally, P1 Patreon member, Cial. at underscore H. At some point during the race, there will be contact between drivers at turn one.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Sorry, how? No, that has to be past lap one. I mean, that is not crazy to have contact at lap one, turn one, Monza. The most dangerous corner on the track. But then this is Formula One now when no one retires or there's any yellow flags,
Starting point is 00:17:08 apparently, so. Fine. It has to be good contact. We're not talking a little wheel bang. It has to be high quality. concept. Yeah, high quality, a little M plate goes flying. You know.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Yeah. You need to see debris. As long as, yeah, slow-mo replay where some debris is flying. That's what we need. Okay. It has actually changed that first corner, isn't it? It has. Slightly wider, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:17:31 Wider and tighter, I think. So I don't really know how that's going to work. See how that one goes. But there you go. That is our predictions for the Italian Grand Prix. Tommy, what are your final thoughts? My final thoughts? are
Starting point is 00:17:47 I should say that I'm going to kind of groan of your Charle-Cleur fan-boism this weekend but I'm looking forward to it it's going to be a good weekend and I'm here for the watch-along and whatever happens,
Starting point is 00:18:06 be that a victory or pain, we'll find out. Yeah, look, I think everyone, I think my Charlotte-Clair fan-boism has been reasonably intact and sort of controlled this season. So let me have this one weekend to dream. That will be lovely. And yes, I can't wait as well. The watch longs will be there Saturday and Sunday, live on Twitch, as well as all of your wonderful podcast content that
Starting point is 00:18:28 you've come to know and love from myself and Tommy. And perhaps just maybe I'll be using this Italian flag to wipe my tears. So there you go. Thank you everybody. I love. I love. Oh, I like that. It turned it around. Beautiful. See you soon, everybody. Lots of love. Bye. production and part of the ACAST created network.

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