P1 with Matt and Tommy - Our 2025 Austrian GP predictions

Episode Date: June 25, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:52 Thank you so much. Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. It's Austrian Grand Prix week and it's my birthday week. I know why I'm so excited. I literally turning 33. It's an absolute disgrace. But I'm younger than you Tommy, which not a lot of people would expect. How are you feeling ahead of this one? We do like Austria as a circuit. We think that as much as I know when we did the, you know, when we went through every track and we're like, can't overtake, can't overtake. We did Austria a disservice. We kind of both jumped on what Austria kind of used to be like when it first joined the calendar,
Starting point is 00:01:34 but it should in theory give us overtaking. It's one of the better tracks, isn't it, in this new era of very, very, very, very, very hard to overtake where the kind of tracks with just long, straights and slow corners seem to be the ones where it actually works. And also another weird thing is it feels very unusual to not have a sprint this weekend because it just feels like Austria is always the sprint race
Starting point is 00:01:58 and I kind of almost thought it was just because of so used to it being one. So off the back of the last predictions that we did for of course the Canadian Grand Prix, we had to dive a bit deeper into this Lando Curse that supposedly I have. And I did a little shout-out asked for people to potentially do some data gathering
Starting point is 00:02:21 and both Edith and Declan sent us some information about this supposed Lando Curse. So they found out that 100% of the time I have predicted Lando to win he hasn't won. And that is not one, not two, not three, but ten times I have predicted Lando to win the Grand Prix and he hasn't won once. Yes. I can see why Lando fans aren't very happy when you go for him. So but I have got him right for poll a few times. So that's good. I think maybe one sprint win as well. Yeah, so the main win
Starting point is 00:03:00 For the main race It doesn't go well For poor Lando, does it? It doesn't, I'm really sorry Lando And to all Lando fans But it's not my fault Come on
Starting point is 00:03:08 If anyone actually believes It is my fault, please It's not So it is currently 2522 to Tommy I'm almost within DRS It's out of nowhere From an unbelievable
Starting point is 00:03:20 Canadian Grand Prix set of predictions Which to confirm I was given a point For the Max Verstappen Will he won't he get a get banned because that was technically correct. And thank you to each and every one of you for supporting me in the comments, because it made the overlord Tommy have to withdraw his appeal. Indeed. And pretty much the only prediction you got wrong last week was Lando. And everything
Starting point is 00:03:43 you said about Lando being good went wrong. But everything else kind of came in, didn't it? It certainly did. So let's get into the predictions. And this time it's Tommy, as per the regulations, to go first. So a good surprise, I have gone for spoken about him a lot already Lando Norris and Matt's gone for Lando Norris as well the way he's reacting But we'll find out later
Starting point is 00:04:06 And I would just say to Lando Norris fans I do not have the same curse But yeah Lando Norris Just When I think the Austrian Grand Prix I think Lando Norris And of course he had the collision
Starting point is 00:04:21 With Vastappen last time But he is always quick around here Even when the McLaren was a midfielder We had last lap Lando of course where he got a podium and he's had podiums before I just
Starting point is 00:04:34 I just feel like it's a very Lando favoured circuit and I can see Matt typing which makes me think that he's now thinking of his other prediction and his changes oh Tommy like the comedic value that that held for me to go for a good surprise Ladanois after everything that was just said
Starting point is 00:04:51 and you you just dropped your bombshell and I will actually and I will say you're welcome Camlando fans because I've saved you all there. You're disgusting because I was so convinced that this weekend would be the one where I can finally shut down this curse. But fine, Tommy has C blocked me. And I am going for, as my good surprise, Olly Behrman, he will score something.
Starting point is 00:05:18 No, I'm not going to say that because then that puts terms and conditions on my good surprise. It might be a really good 11th place drive. We don't know. But I'm going to go for Ollie Behrman. Austria is a circuit that Formula 2 drivers know well and I would like to think that Olly Behrman wouldn't be scared of the prospect of scoring points for me, for my good surprise and there will be a breakthrough weekend for Olly Behrman
Starting point is 00:05:41 and it is supposedly now going to happen at this weekend's Grand Prix. Thank you Tommy. A big flop. Who is receiving my big flop? It is going to be. Oscar Piastri Okay So I was obviously going to go for both McLaren drivers
Starting point is 00:06:01 One for Good Surprise But that's not going to happen now But for my big flop I'm going to go for Oscar Piastri We all know that this is based on vibes However he had a reasonably Wobbly weekend At Canada
Starting point is 00:06:16 I don't know why I'm like flop Wobbly everything's But he was struggling a bit with the car Of course he went a different direction to Lando with the suspension. Will he go for the same one now as we head to to Austria? We will have to wait and see. But it was just like a small chink in the armour
Starting point is 00:06:33 of what has otherwise been a brilliant season for Oscar and it may well continue in Austria. That's what I'm saying. But it's all based on vibes and it could be completely wrong and probably is wrong. And also your, I think last time out, I think that's the first big flop that you've got right with Hadjar because normally it's...
Starting point is 00:06:51 Ten attempts. Yeah, so your... the lux turn around so we'll find out but the thing is i've not learned because every big hitter i've gone for has obviously just completely destroyed my big flop prediction i've gone straight back for the championship leader now i've got slightly excited by the fact my big flop is has returned it's it's going to go completely wrong okay thank congratulations oscar and winning the austral romprie so my big flop i've gone for a team and the team is williams i feel like williams are a team that maybe people think would do very well around the Austrian Grand Prix
Starting point is 00:07:25 because there's lots of long straits. But I think that the pain for Williams is going to continue into this race, maybe not score any points, and there'll be a lot of hyper again being a circuit that we know they can do well around, but I just don't see it happening for Williams this weekend. Just a feeling. A feeling in your bone. Okay, interesting.
Starting point is 00:07:51 That would be quite the run of form for Williams, considering what happened in Spain and in Canada. All right, poll position, Tommy. Paul position, I have gone for Max for Stappen. Oh, for the... Half the bothered. What's the point of me making predictions? I hate these regulation.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Okay, so we know who Matt's gone for now has to change it. Like, what's the point? Are those of you that are complaining? about these regulations. I am with you now. Well, look, these are the rules you get to go next week, so. Yeah, I go for Max. I feel like this track will suit him. It's a weird one because way back when Red Bull weren't really suited to the Red Bull ring
Starting point is 00:08:41 because their weakness was always their power unit and on the straits and stuff. whereas in recent years they've been a lot better around there and Max has been really, really good indeed. So yeah, I'm going for a max poll position. So, pole position. I agree with everything you've just said to me. But my poll position is Lando Norris. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:05 That's something that has actually come in a couple of times, I think, for me, predicting Lando poll. And I firmly believe he's going to be very strong this weekend. And why not put him on poll? position. Yes, he has made quite a few mistakes and also Austria does bite back in terms of track limits. So we need to be careful on that one. But if there's a place for Lando to bounce back, it is this one. So there you go, Landon Norris. Third position in the main race. I am locking in
Starting point is 00:09:37 George Russell. Oh my God. It's the Cockblock Romprey. Wow. I know I said C block earlier. I've just gone straight for it. Yeah, fair. So George Russell in P3 for me. Tommy is now ferociously typing. I quite like this as much as I don't because I wanted to put.
Starting point is 00:10:01 It's annoying when you want to go for it, but it makes it more fun. But I think it's more fun. Yeah, it is. You know, I know that some people don't enjoy that, but I certainly think it adds a bit more spice to these predictions. So third place I've gone for George Russell, especially if you've made me change my predictions and they come in. I'm going to thank you massively to future Tommy. And also I'm going to be swearing at you hugely on the watch along in particular if you made me change things that were correct. But George Russell is going to be my third position. I think that third is almost maybe even a little bit too low potentially
Starting point is 00:10:32 if Merck can continue their form from Canada. But George loves spawning in the third place. So that's what I've gone for. So third position I had gone for George Russell, of course, as was quite clear. And I've now change that to Oscar Piastri, the championship leader, a P3, based on your flop and what you were going to go for good surprise. Maybe I'm of a similar opinion to you that I don't think Oscar's going to do badly, but I feel like it's maybe a circuit that doesn't suit him as well and what he's good at. It feels that Oscar's strengths this year have been those media. speed and high speed corners like
Starting point is 00:11:16 you know your spains and things like that so that's why I've gone for Piastri to be P3 after a little change Okie dokey second place Tommy second place I've gone for Lando Norris
Starting point is 00:11:31 We're cooking Okay yes Lando Norris I think is going to bounce back I've gone for P2 though I do think Lando is going to redeem himself after a really, really poor weekend. And like I said, in drive ratings, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:51 couldn't have got really much worse for him. But I do think he's going to bounce back. And I think of all the circuits Lando would want coming up, it's Austria, which he's gone really well at in the past. And like I said, when we're talking about good surprise, he always delivers here. So I'm going for Lando to beat Oscar this weekend and be P2. Okay, second place for me is not Lando Norris and never was Lando Norris.
Starting point is 00:12:19 It is Max Verstappen. Max will finish in a solid second place once more, continuing to be somewhere in the championship fight. And of course, I've predicted one of the McLarence to not be on the podium. Who will it be? I wonder, my big flop. But Max Verstappen are gone for second position. First place.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Locking in. The curse ends today on Sunday. Lando Norris is winning the Austrian Grand Prix. I'm so sure of it. Lando Norris fans have all... They're fallen to their knees. Shouting no. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:13:04 It cannot surely become 11 times. I cannot still have a 0% conversion rate come Sunday afternoon. It just simply cannot happen. So Lando Norris, P1, baby. Okay, so P1, I have gone for, might as fast happen. Yeah, no surprise, I don't think, based on poor position and the other two I'd gone for. Like I said, I can see it.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And this has just been the case all year that kind of the top four places, in my opinion, are going to be between the two McLaren's Max and George. And Max... No mention of Ferrari from either of us. That's crazy, by the way. How far they've fallen this year. But I just feel like Max around this track, even with the, of course, penalty points still looming
Starting point is 00:14:02 because he has to make this race as well. But yeah, I've gone for the victory for him, I think he's going to have a great weekend. And I do feel like this is a circuit that he can win at one of the few circuits this year that he can get the P1 at. Ooh. Let's head to our one crazy prediction, Mr. Bellingham. My one crazy prediction is that George Russell will radio about a Vastappan incident at some point during the race weekend. So he's going to try and bait him again.
Starting point is 00:14:42 either bait him or will spot him like running wide and going is for stopping already on three track limit warnings or something like that and yeah and especially if something like that happens you know that Formula One because they love the team radio drama now
Starting point is 00:15:03 the people you know I feel like it's almost drive to survive doing it themselves now they'll be playing that radio absolutely on the broadcast. Okay, dokey. I was slightly concerned that it'd probably gone for the same crazy prediction
Starting point is 00:15:18 as me as well and I would have literally been up in arms. My one crazy prediction and I haven't even fact-checked this prior so I might be about to cook myself silly.
Starting point is 00:15:30 The smallest poll margin of the season. Now I know it's been pretty small already. It probably has about 200th to work with. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:15:40 it's going to be very, I'm pretty sure it's 0.01 at one point. I reckon we could even have the same time as poll. Like something like that. Short track, of course. I think Austria quality will be crazy. It's not, you know, out of the realms of possibility this one. But also I think it would be crazy considering just how small the pole margins have been already this year.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I've already got biggest poll margin of the season. Why don't I get the smallest as well in these predictions? Why not? I feel it in my bones. It's a good one. And yeah, of course, absolutely. have it. It's a risky one like you say without the the kind of the way pole has been so close this season. And weirdly
Starting point is 00:16:19 not, it's kind of been the last few races where the gaps kind of opened up a bit hasn't it? Where there's been a few massive pole margins of over a tenth of a second because that's massive now in Formula One. But there's also been some very small ones. So we'll have to look back at that one once qualifying has happened. Let's to our Patreon prediction, where if you join our P1 Patreon, you can get many benefits, including ad-free listening, early access to tickets, our access to our private Discord, but also within that Discord, you can submit a prediction. And it can be potentially chosen by myself and Tommy to be part and hopefully score us some points. My Patreon prediction is from Georgina. Yuki points at a Red Bull's home race.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Nice. I see it. I want it. I want some Yuki glory. Preferably top eight or something would be quite nice. Just a nice, clean quality. However, now that I've chosen this, I'm already regretting it because qualifying is going to be insanely close. And if anything, oh, God, no, I'm regretting it all.
Starting point is 00:17:31 No, I've got to back it. Uki's going to have a good qualifying. But if Yuki's off the pace from Max and Max is not far ahead of everyone, then, yeah, it could go badly. I nearly picked that one, actually. but I have gone for... That goes with the trend. Yeah, indeed. We're copying each other's predictions here a lot.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I have gone for Glush, the top two on track finish within three seconds of each other. So a very close or a safety car finish. But we'll see. No, not another safety car finish, please. I hope, of course, that is not a safety car finish and instead a great battle for the win. All righty. It's now over to the family top three. Is it six three?
Starting point is 00:18:16 It is six three indeed. It's definitely six three. It's six three to the Bellingham's. Boom. No one cares until the Gallagher start winning. Then this is the biggest part of the championship and predictions ever. Right. Tommy, I think it's over to you. Should I go first? If you have your family member ready. Actually, no, because I told my dad I was going to ring in five minutes. It's been half an hour. Okay. So let's go to my dad first. Here we'll go. we go. Will he pick up? Let's find out. Don't be a Ferrari one too, please. Hi Matt. Hi Dad, welcome to the P1 podcast. Are you ready for your predictions?
Starting point is 00:18:54 No, I'm not. Okay, perfect. In third... I just asked the customer, and she said, wait, she sounds the one that sounds like the pastry. Right, perfect. That's how clueless I want, so. You're not clueless. I'm chit. Wait, hold on. Let me in. trow it and then you say your stuff. Okay. So I chose you firstly because I thought you had the most will knowledge. So in third position, we're behind, Dad, so lock in. In third position, please. Don't be asking your customer. Ask yourself. George Russell. George Russell. All right, that's the same as me. All right. We've gone for George Russell P3. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:31 In second position. Landau Norris. Okay, dokey. All right. I see it. And then Oscar PS3. Okay. I've flopped Oscar. Piastri this week. So... No, he's going to do a good one. Perfect. All right. Well, I am wrong and my dad is correct.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Thank you, Dad. Bye. Love you. We do need three. Bye. Bye. Bye. I thought that was going to be exactly the same as yours then or the one you were almost going to go for, of course, until we changed. I do love how my dad just shoots me down immediately when I said that Piastri was
Starting point is 00:20:04 flop. Nope. Nope. He's going to win. He's like, no, I know better. Yeah. And I love how he was adding some law about asking the customer. I'm like, no, it's not customer predictions. It's not random people not in the Gallagher's. Our family ask random people their top three predictions. Yeah, no, that's not what this segment is. You imagine that would be chaotic. Right, I'm going to give my wife a call, Katie, if I can actually work my phone. Please start it with, hello wife, like you've done in the past.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Hey wife, how are you? Hello, I'm good, thank you. Yeah, I know you're a bit nervous, but don't worry, you can, you can do this and I want big points so we need to extend our lead so then Grace can do another prediction no no we need another great prediction so no pressure so okay so P3 for the Austrian Grand Prix um I'm going for Oscar okay P2 yeah uh George who I think I've put P2 every time okay interesting and P1 max okay interesting very very similar to mine mine was Oscar 3rd second max first so very very similar all right thank you very much hope we score big points love you lots bye right there we go it's very strong very similar very strong so you that as i sort of heard at the
Starting point is 00:21:26 start there we've had fred now we have wigs so can we just many many nicknames i that one i literally don't know how it even started but you didn't know about fred either you can't just there has to be some law here i need to i need to call my sister at some quick because she calls me Peter as well, which just... Peter? Honestly, anything but your own name challenge. I genuinely think my family is just all about
Starting point is 00:21:52 calling each other something that is not their name. You are not a Peter. There's nothing about you that is Peter. That is incredible. All right. People with Matt and Pete. There you go. Thank you everybody for tuning in
Starting point is 00:22:08 to this quite wild predictions episode. So I've only enjoyed it. top three, isn't it? Yeah, it is. I love this segment. It's really awesome. And I hope you are enjoying it as well. Let us know in the comments if you are. I haven't said this in a while, but subscribe, if you haven't already, leave a like. If you enjoy this prediction series, if you're over on YouTube, if you're over on audio, just give us a little note and give us a five stars and say, I really like this podcast. That'd be really lovely indeed. Tommy, final thoughts? Final thoughts? It's great to have Formula One back because when
Starting point is 00:22:42 we are doing this will be back into Formula One after a week break and happy birthday will it be your birth where's your birthday? The race day? The race day? Actually race day
Starting point is 00:22:55 Wow okay fair What a birthday I'm so excited Like 99.9% Tommy don't My desk just lifted slightly It's it's honestly If that happens my God But that's good
Starting point is 00:23:11 because we haven't actually mentioned Ferrari and I want to leave it that way. That would be great. But 99.9% of people will say, oh my God, I've got to work on my birthday. I am so excited to work on my birthday. I mean, what a present. I think my, I think my birthday is the first race of the season next year as well. So it would be another birthday of work.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Hello. Good evening. We love that. All right. Thank you, everybody. I look forward to receiving all of your presents. Especially from Shell. Bye.
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