P1 with Matt and Tommy - Our 2025 F1 Driver Ratings: P10 to P1

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

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Hello everybody and welcome back to the B1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. We're back part two. Tommy waved. That intro is only going in audio. So that wave was thrown into the abyss. They know. I say they know. They can hear the small airwaves of your...

Anyway, we're back. It's part two. Deliriousness is definitely setting in. But this is the big one. We've done 21st to 11. 11th where yes we did agree we did agree look we didn't get exactly the same averages right no i just were different it's just the positions were the same however i have been fully confirmed and sort of just what's the word what am i trying to say tommy right now like i don't

know not comforted like reassured reassured there we go words reassured that we got we got to argue Okay, wow. Let's have it out, you know? Why not? One of the last podcasts in the year, let's rough and tumble. Okay, fair enough. Sorry, any thoughts to that? Well, look, driver ratings are the be-all and end-all of everything.

So, yeah, let's get a boxing match sorted for it all. Let's do it. Why not? And maybe we can get some words out as well. Right, let's head into 10th position. My 10th position is Alex. Albin with a 6.7. Now very interesting that Alex Albin is 10th because he is obviously just ahead of Carlos Sites on my list. They're 10th and 11th. Mid-season Albin was 6th and Carlos Sainz was about 15th. What a crazy roller coaster or season that Alex has had like the start was unbelievable i mean i go through uh his his top grades uh his best was a 10

in australia and miami his worst was a two in Vegas no surprise his best grades are at the start his worst grades were at the end yeah looking at looking at his grades it really does tell the story of his season uh at the start of the season he got a 10 and 8 an 8 a 7 and 8 a 10 a 9 from me and then towards the end of the season three six five five two six four shocking sounds like your phone number mate exactly spoilers someone's ringing that number right now aren't they and it's crazy to

crazy to think that that it's been that much of a like such an amazing start surprised everyone with how he did against Carla Science a lot of people didn't including me I'll admit it and I'm sure you're the same like didn't really give him a prayer against Carlos Sites

and yeah for him to finish the championship in eighth an incredible season really overall even if it ended really badly

my 10th position is Isaac Hajar with a 6.7 overall grade and I will say we are literally into the point ones separating

many drivers so just keep an ear out for the numbers that we say for these drivers before you go How could you possibly put them 10th rather than 7th, when it might well be 0.1 that the difference is? But for me, it is Hajar.

His best came in Japan with a 10. Monaco was 10 and Netherlands as well. And his worst was, of course, Australia. Had it not been for Australia, I reckon Hadja I'll be right up there in my top 7. But alas, this is where the cookie has crumbled. For Hadjar, a great season. a really great season for the rookie came into it with not a lot of expectation from people.

Of course, he did very well in Formula 2. But I just don't feel like he was getting the same hype as we've seen from other drivers that have had strong junior careers. But for Hadjar, just a phenomenal qualifying specialist, I feel like, is in the midst here. He will definitely grow into someone that on a Saturday will perform and on Sundays as well. He's done very well indeed. But no, we're not going to coin it that.

He might well be on his way. Yes, that's the way we can change it up. But for Hadjar, I think a really good season. He can be very proud of himself and he's got the Red Bull seat now. So mixed emotions, I'm sure, as we head into Christmas. The fans, 10th place, was Kimmy Antonelli with 6.4. out of 10. A best of 10 in Canada, Brazil and Las Vegas and a worst of two in Austria. Tied with Hadjar Science and Holkenberg all the same grade. Crazy. Wow. So 10th, 11th and

12th for the fans on the same grade. Let's go to ninth position. My P9 is my goat. Olly Berman. What a season. What a man. Champion in the waiting. You've heard it here first. A six 0.8 average score out of 10. His best grades from me came in the Netherlands and Mexico of a 10 out of 10 and worst was a 4 in Australia, Miami and Spain.

Now, Ollie Bearman nearly got banned several times during this season, which we'll go kind of forgotten due to these crazy massive points, penalty points holes that he was getting for red flags and safety car infringements and so on and so forth.

But that aside, quite a consistent season. Even when he wasn't doing particularly well, i.e. scoring points, he was finishing just outside the points. We mentioned about Ockon and his great run of form at the start. Olly Behrman, he was picking up a point here, picking up a point there. And then he went on a run of four 11ths, which were decent drives, just missing out on the points. And then towards the end, he really came into his own.

Mexico in particular was. utterly sensational to watch from him and he really sort of entered the spotlight from there so I am so excited to see what Olly Beerman can do in the future, backed him from the start and I will continue to back him as I believe the arc of progression is the right way round the recency bias is strong with Olly Beerman

if you look at the last few but even as an overall season he's my ninth highest average driver my P9 is Nico Holkenberg with a 6.7 so tied with Alex Albin but of course Nico Hockenberg got an 11 out of 10 in Silverstone I will just mention because obviously that was novel his tens he also got one in Australia in Spain in Canada as well and yeah Nika Holkenberg, his worst grade from me was, as I've lost it in the sheet, a three in Baku and Singapore. Yeah, Nika Holkenberg, what a strange season really, because you look at their

head-to-head stats and he's against a rookie teammate and they've basically been almost identical in terms of like the head-to-head. But where Niko Holkenberg has excelled is he's the big moments and that is what's made at such a special season for Nika Holkenberg, like the big, big moments. We talk about, you know, we thought they wouldn't score a point all year, and then he rocks up to Australia and finishes in seventh. Then he follows it up with a fifth in Spain, and you're thinking, there's no way he's going to get a better result than that. Oh, okay, he's finally got his podium in maybe what we thought would be the worst car he's

ever driven throughout his whole career. Obviously, it didn't end up being that way. but still not a great car by any means not a podium contending card no chance but just an unbelievable performance in Silverstone to get the only 11 out of 10 that we gave of course and then kind of went oh there's been a lot of crazy performances now

I kind of want to give another one but yeah a well-deserved 11 for Holkenberg in that would you still give Nika Holkenberg the 11 considering the entire season no where it go It would go to Hadjar in Zamport. Okay. Interesting.

Mine would go to Charlotte Clow and Abadabee. Because it would. Okay, the fans, for their P9, was Lewis Hamilton, with a 6.5 out of 10. Definitely the biggest shift between the Matt and Tommy grades, where we put Hamilton in 14th. And the fans put Hamilton in 9. 9th. Let us know, as I'm sure you have already, how you feel about where Hamilton's been placed by you, the fans. The best, a 9 out of 10 in Imola and worst 2 out of 10 in Qatar. P8, Tommy. P8, I have Olly Behrman with a 6.8. His best was a 10 in Mexico. His worst was a 4 in

Australia, Spain and Hungary. This could be even higher because my word like, sometimes we mentioned on drive ratings feeling like every single episode at the start what might have been for Ollie Bearman he just needs that consistency and boy did he do that at the end of the season it was quite insane the run of form that he went on and really

showed himself what a great driver he is picking up obviously that that massive point streak the P4 in Mexico where I gave him a 10 definitely the standout drive from him and yeah what an impressive talent to be up there

as the eighth best driver because mid-season he was lower than his teammate and actually this shows the leap that Bairman has gone up the radar because in my mid-season ratings Bairman was behind Hamilton Ockon Hamilton and Bortoletto so there we go.

What a run of performances indeed. You actually considering I have had Olly Berman, you know, I've been standing him the entire year. You're one higher, even though we have exactly the same average grade for the, for them as a 6.8 out of 10. I have gone for, well, not gone for, the maths for P8, Alex Albon. Now he had a 10 out of 10 in Australia, Miami, and Imala, and a worst of a 2 out of 10 in Las Vegas. So, yes, the same grade as Olly Behrman behind him. The same grade as whoever's coming in front of him as well, apparently.

So it's very close indeed. Point three ahead of Carlos Sines come the end of it. So next time we interview Alex Albon, I will be mentioning that I put him P8 in the average driver rating so that he can not think that I'm constantly giving him three out of tens because I absolutely do not. But Alex, I am actually a little bit of, bit surprised at

he's P8 I thought considering the run of form towards the end that he may well have slipped behind the likes of

Olli Bearman and perhaps even Carlos Sines and Hajar but he didn't the scores don't lie he drew with them

your mid-season rating was a 7.6 so it has dropped down quite considerably but he's still enough to hang on

just about so well done Alex I want to share something with Albon because we mentioned

about his start to the season. Should everyone else stop listening? He apparently listens. This is my message to Alex Albon and Alex Albon only. Because we've got this lovely spreadsheet where we've got all our grades, we can actually show just how different his start and ending were. So if I get rid of his first eight performances, his grade drops all the way down to a 5.8, which is right near the bottom.

And if I get rid of the last four, I'm sorry, the last eight, it goes all the way up to a 7.8, which puts them as one of the best drivers of the year. So crazy how that really does showcase just how mixed it was. So that was my grades you deleted. Yeah, yeah. And I imagine it's much of the same. Pretty similar, isn't it, between the two of us? Okay, wow.

Well, there you go. That shows with these averages. No recency bias here, everybody. The fans, they agree with me. Alex Albon, 6.7 average out of 10. The best, 10 out of 10 in Australia, Miami and Imola, worst 3 out of 10 in Las Vegas. Let's head to 7th position. Mine is Nico Holkenberg with a 6.8 out of 10, exactly the same as Alex Albon, exactly the same as

Ollie Behrman. But Nico Holkenberg wins out because of the 11 out of 10 in Silverstone. His worst was a no rating in Monza or a 3 in Baku and 6. Singapore. I feel like when we no rated them, it didn't actually affect the averages. No, it doesn't. No. So the worst is the, is the Baku and Singapore three out of tens. Overall for Holkenberg, obviously a really good season. He's up there in seventh in the averages. It's so strange. I also am like, wow, the massive difference between Holcomburg and Bortoletto in terms of the points and also our grades, and yet the head-to-heads were so close.

close, Nika Holkenberg just clutched up. And I think that's when, that's the difference between someone with a lot of potential, perhaps a rookie, but someone that's not necessarily consistent. And Holkenberg that just knows how to get the good result. Like Holkenberg's always been known as a driver that can get the most points out of a midfield car. This, when this car became midfield, Holkenberg was there. He had a bit of a struggle in qualifying, hence why I think the head-to-heads are quite flattering, I guess, for Bortoletto, because Bortoletto was able to put in some great quality performances. Meanwhile, Nico, who was known as being a quality specialist, had a bit of a wobble this year.

But when he stopped wobbling, not the analysis, he was able to put in some phenomenal performances and Silverstone will go down in history, of course, for Nika Holkenberg and for fans around the world, because that was absolutely awesome to see, and still deserves the 11 out of 10. You can keep it, Nico, no problem. That's the world on Nico. My P7 is Isaac Hadjar with a seven overall, exactly seven, seven, seven point zero. His best was a 10 in Japan, Monaco and the Netherlands.

As I said, would have been an 11 if I could change it. And a worst was a two in Australia. Shock. I mean, how Hadjar turned his season around after what could have been the worst way to start your career ever by spinning off on the formation lap and crashing out. imagine you'd have said when he was there being comforted by Hamilton's dad in the paddock in Australia that this guy would be the rookie of the year get the Red Bull seat be spoken about as one of the best drivers of the year

you'd never have believed it and here we are and got a podium a podium in a V cup crazy an absolutely brilliant season from Hadjar completely underestimated him going into the season didn't know an awful lot too much about his talent and boy did he show it amazing amazing season Zandvort being the absolute high that he put in an amazing qualifying performance and managed to grab the podium

okay so the craziest thing about that is that you gave him a two out of ten for spinning out on the formation lap. Right, let's go to the fans in seventh for them is Fernando Alonzo. 6.8 out of 10. They don't have the Tommy tinted glasses on for Fernando Alonzo. We've not mentioned him yet for either of us. He is, of course, tied with a driver we're about to speak about. His best is a 10 out of 10 in Hungary.

His worst are four in Australia and Belgium. Sixth position. It's getting heated now. It's getting hot. Tommy. Talk to me. I will. It's P6 Fernando Alonzo with a grade of 7.3. His best was a 10. In Canada, Hungary, Singapore and Abu Dhabi and his worst was a three in Australia where he went off. Of course, Fernando Alonzo has had a really, really good season. Of course, you know, you take the Mick out of my allegiances towards Fernando and me overgrading him. You've not mentioned him yet,

so interesting. Yeah, so Fernando Alonzo had the unluckier start to a season, you know, it didn't, the points tally at the halfway point didn't reflect what he was doing. He had some really poor luck, barely got any points on the board. As soon as he was able to kind of have a car that wasn't breaking down in races and things like that or having these problems, he bagged a load of points. And put in some really impressive drives, which just shows that, you know, we mentioned Nika Holkenberg. Alonso goes in that list as well of like, and I'd say more like anyone better to drag a midfield car into really, really good position.

So, yeah, Fernando all the way up in P6. My P6 is Fernando Alonzo as well with a 7.1 out of 10. Not none of this 7.3 rubbish. Wow. Wow. You wish you could have put in P9, don't you? Just to annoy you, if anything. But it's been a big jump.

It's a big jump. Like, literally Nika Holkenberg was 6.8. We now go to 7.1 for Fernando Alonzo for me. And his best results were 10 out of 10 in Canada, Hungary, Singapore and Abu Dhabi. His worst was a four in Australia and Belgium. My overarching feelings around Fernando Alonzo are a lot of positive. A lot of, you know, he's still got it. Amazing to see him up there.

There's part of me that longs for him to have a teammate that actually is someone reputable and exciting and we know is fast. Lance Stroll is an unknown quantity. We don't know how motivated he is. We don't really know how talented he is. A lot of people sort of ear on the fact that it's not as talented as some drivers on the grid, which I think is very fair, a very fair judgment. So I would love to see just how good Alonzo is currently.

And when Charlotte-Cla goes there in 2027, because Ferrari haven't been able to build a car in 26, and Fernando keeps going until 2040, that's when we fully understand just how good 80-year-old Fernando Alonzo is. But look, a really good season, a lot of standout drives. He's got his head switched on. He knows exactly, or new, because I guess the season is over now, how to essentially manipulate the car,

cars to his advantage. The amount of Fernando Alonzo trains I saw this year, he knew exactly what he was doing with that, to save his tires, to be able to hold up everybody behind him. He's still got the racecraft, absolutely. So yeah, hopefully, Adrian Nui, cooking up a storm,

and we see some special things from Fernando Alonzo next year because he's still got it currently. How many more years will he have it for? The fans in P6 gave it to all. Olli Behrman with a 6.8 out of 10 tied with Alonzo, but Olly Behrman has more tens, a 10 out of 10 in the Netherlands and Mexico, and a worst of four in Spain and Miami.

We now head to the top five. In P5, I have George Russell, with a 7.8 out of 10. We have gone again, massive big league jump here. Point seven between Fernando Alonzo and George Russell in average grades, 7.8 out of 10, a best of 10 in Bahrain, Canada and Singapore, and a worst of five in Monaco and Silverstone. That tells you all you need to know. The fact George Russell did not score anything worse than a five the entire season. That is Mr. Consistent. Forget Mr.

Saturday. That's in the bin for George Russell. He's now Mr. Consistent. He turns up, yes, he might have a couple of off-color weekends where Antonelli was better. But overall, there were no, like, insane stinkers for George Russell throughout the entirety of 24 race campaign and that's why I'm convinced that he will be a world champion one day. Thank you. My P5 is Charlotte Clare with a grade of 7.7. His best was a 10 in Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi and his worst was a two in Silverstone. I feel like, don't quote me on this, but I feel like every year you could put Charlotte Clare's worst result at Silverstone. He always just seems to have an absolute shocker there.

but charlerclair i think at the start of the the season um you know i think charles always been that consistent driver um he's shown that that he's this year more than ever he's able to deliver in a car that's not quite there to say the least um not quite there doesn't even cover it um you know drive like abadabi for example saudi arabia you know the amount of times he put it on the podium when his teammate Hamilton didn't manage it once. It's so, so impressive.

Yeah, there were times that he maybe, there were some moments in the season where I thought, oh, maybe Charles could like give it even more, but not many. And I think looking at this result, in my opinion, and same as you, like the top five are a step ahead of everyone else

in this list. you know the jump from Alonso to LeClaire and I can imagine a lot of the top fives if you picked them would be these five drivers in many orders if you like so yeah Charleclair

well you say jump you and he jumped to point four because Fernando Alonzo is the greatest full time in your eyes so it's kind of like a mini step it's like a little stepping stone whereas mine was a leap mine was a triple jump the fans for P5 went for Charlec also with a 7.8 out of 10

best was a 10 in Saudi Arabia and the worst a four in Silverstone. Four. Wow. Crazy. That's very generous. Let's go to fourth position. Fourth position I have George Russell with a score of 8.0. His best was a 10 in Bahrain, Canada, Singapore and his worst was a 5 in Silverstone. You know, goes with what you said that that was the only real bad grade i think i gave george and bad grade was a five all season um george's consistency was really good we talked about races where george even when the mercedes weren't there he scored like good points like all the time uh and yeah it's the consistency that was the most impressive thing about george russell um yeah uh eight point

zero. I could, you know, if I was picking, I definitely would consider putting him maybe even higher. It's close between them. But yeah, George has had a really, really, really strong season. I think very impressive. He's showed, despite, you know, all the rumors about Max Lestappen and how much Teotovs Kimi Antonelli, that he is ready to be a team leader at Mercedes. my fourth position is charlerc with a 7.9 out of 10 average rating a best of 10 in Saudi Arabia, Monaco and Abu Dhabi and a worst of three in Silverstone. Would I, if I was just picking drivers and swapping them around? Would I put Charler one? Number one, yes. But the actual realistic thing I was going to say is would I swap Charlecler and George Russell? Yes, I would.

I would put George ahead of Shal in terms of overall performances this season. It's close for sure, but I think George has been really impressive this year. So you've graded Shal too high like I have Thunder Alonzo all the time? Yeah, by point one, like relax yourself. But look, I think Shal's still had a great season. It's just in a terrible car. And we've had to sort of mind shift to what Ferrari is. And it's been quite hard to grade them at times because there have been really,

really poor weekends where Shal hasn't been able to do nothing about it, saying he's got all he can out of the car, and it's just been full-blown depressing. But P4, for me, for Shal, and it'll be P1 next year, because I'll give him 10 every single time. Well, imagine, imagine saying at the start of the season that you'd give Shal-A-Clair a 10 for a fourth place. That pretty much sums it up, doesn't it, Ferrari, this year? Yeah. All right, let's move on. The fans gave it to George Russell, P4.7.8 out of 10. A best of 10 in Bahrain, Canada and Singapore, and a worst of five in Monaco and Silverstone. So the fans also in agreement that George Russell is the consistency goat. Third position, the final step on the podium for me, goes to Oscar Piastri, with an 8.0 out of 10.

A best of 10 in China, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Miami, Spain, Belgium, Netherlands and Qatar. And a worst of zero in Baku. Now, I think that zero has screwed him ever so slightly. I'm not going to lie. Oscar Piastri's season, he was absolutely nailed on to be the number one driver of this year. Had he not had the fall off at the end? I really do think so, because when I look at his grades,

I mean, the first, like, third of the season is 8, 10, 8, 10, 10, 10, 8, 8, 10. He's got a few more tens after that. But then we look to the period of time that we know about from Baku, it's 0756-6, 5, 6. And that costs you in the average driver ratings at the top, at the absolute top. That being said, was Oscar Piastri the third best driver, in my opinion, if I was to choose? Marginally, yeah, I would say so over the course of the whole season because of what I've just mentioned. And that period of race is where he just lost confidence in the car and sadly lost the championship because of it. But it's very close.

You know, they've all had great moments in this season. And Oscar was so consistent in the first 15 races of the year. But sadly, yeah, that season is not 15 races long. So Oscar can still be very, very proud of his third season in Formula 1. And he is a, he's, I genuinely, I do believe he is going to win multiple world championships. Should he be in the right car? And that is the big question mark. Yeah, definitely.

just to add to that I've got the mid-season ratings here which were obviously done in the summer break before Zandvort and it's easy to forget now based on the form that Oscar Piastri had at the end of the season of course but he, your ratings

in particular but all of ours as the fans everyone he was comfortably the best driver at that stage he was actually a whole grade ahead of the Stappen, Norris, LeClair, Russell everyone he was clear at the top with it with an average grade of almost nine, which just shows how amazingly

consistently was at the start. So P3, mine is Lando Norris with a score of 8.0. His best was a 10 in Australia, Monaco, Austria, Mexico, Brazil, and his worst was a one in Canada. Yeah, very surprised actually that despite the mid-season and how of course Lando did struggle at the start we've seen that he's obviously lower than Oscar on my list we're about to find out how much buy and yeah it's it's a surprise because they were exceptionally close it's almost feels a lifetime ago that Lando Norris you know was was having struggles and things like Bahrain and Saudi and Canadaer and stuff and looked like he didn't have an answer for Oscar Piastri. But of course, his consistency at the end is what won him that world championship.

He was a really consistent driver. He had, I think he actually led the least laps of all three of the title contenders. And yet he had so many more like second places and more podiums than anyone else. So it was that consistency for him that obviously won him that title, that first world title. The fans in P3 have gone for Oscar Piastri with an 8.0 out of 10, the best being a 10 in China, Bahrain, Saudi, Miami, Spain, Belgium and the Netherlands, and a worst of one in Baku. Second position.

Second position in P2, I have Oscar Piastri with exactly the same grade, an 8.0. his best was a 10 in China, Bahrain, Saudis, Spain, Belgium, Netherlands, and Qatar. His worst, of course, was a zero in Baku. That's an insane list of tens, by the way, for someone. It is an insane list of tens, and of course, the reason he is second on my list is only because he got more tens than Lando Norris and George Russell. They are identical, second, third and fourth, all with an average grade through the whole season of 8.0, which is quite crazy.

um yeah oscar piastri of course recency bias was say oh he lost it at the end he was he was not very good um but his consistency at the start of that season is why his grade is is so high um i dread to think and i'm going to do it now so covery it is oscar piastri fans if i delete that awful run that had between Azerbaijan and Las Vegas in the list his average grade yeah goes up to a nine and his driver of the season so yeah it was that that run that he had the reason he's got more tens than Lando on my list I believe is from all his race wins whereas I think some of Lando's race wins I want to say Silverstone looking at Silverstone was a nine you also gave him a nine for that and Hungary was a nine where Piastri of course in Silverstone he Piastri threw it away

and that's that's why he obviously got got the eight and couldn't give Lando a 10 for that drive but yeah incredibly close between them you know the the points gap reflects that there'll be a lot of people probably outrage that the Oscar is higher I mean it's not higher driver rating sure not yeah higher in inverted commas is exactly the same but of course it's It's the countback that does it for him. But they were incredibly evenly matched. You know, 13 points in it in the end between them. Of course, six of those was that Monsa switch, which puts them even closer.

Yeah, very, very, very close. And 14 of those was Oscar Piastri losing the win in Silverstone with that silly era behind the safety car? Exactly, yeah, which is, yeah, that is crazy, like a big moment. You look at moments like Hungary as well where Oscar, was driving better than Lando, where it went wrong, where, sorry, I didn't go wrong, but Lando took that risk of a different strategy and won the race. Yeah, but it's all down to, unfortunately, for Oscar, that Azerbaijan moment, scoring zero and then retiring from the race and then the run of form that he had.

Lando's form, and this is the consistency where I think that the title was won between, between those two drivers when Lando didn't have the car that he wanted he was finishing second and third for most of the time when Oscar was struggling with the car unfortunately for him it was fourths and fifths and that was too much of a deficit

between the two drivers which is what allowed Lando to catch up so much so yet still a great season from Oscar and something to be very proud of my P2 for the season is Lando Norris with an 8.2 out of 10 average score. A best of 10 in Australia, Monaco, Austria, Mexico and Brazil,

and a worst of two in Canada. Bruno's joined the podcast, if you're watching on video, for some reason. I think he hasn't been given his D-I-N-N-E-R, and I'm not going to say that, otherwise he will leap off me. So Landon Norris had a phenomenal season. He's the world champion.

We've said it many times that he was incredibly consistent over the course of most of the year. Yes, he had moments that we spoke about, and he got six and seven in Bahrain and South, But the run that he went on at the end of the year, which we spoke about, of course, in terms of winning him the championship, also massively high grades. And meanwhile, Oscar Piastri is getting seven, five, six, five, six in the last, was it? The last couple, of course, he did really well. But before that, you know, it's a run of form.

And then the zero, of course, in Baku. You compare that to Lando. He went on from Singapore, basically, 8, 10, 10, 989. and I think that's what's pipped him over Oscar for me despite the fact Oscar had so many tens at the start of the year it's close between the two teammates and it depends how you measure it of course you throw in papyrals

and it causes chaos altogether as oh both dogs are on the podcast you can tell it's their food time yeah you really can but for Lando anyone that thinks he's an undeserving champion has never watched Formula One before in their lives and they just think that Max Rastafin and Lewis Hamilton are the only ways to be an F1 world champion.

He picked up enough points, and this is the reason why he's 0.2 out of a grade ahead of Oscar, he picked up points at almost every single Grand Prix. You know, Canada being one way, of course he made a mistake. But without the Zanvort DNF and the disqualification in Vegas, he would have been world champion sooner than Abu Dhabi. So I'm not surprised to see Lando ahead of Oscar over the course of the entire season. But it's still very close and both teammates deserved the title

and would have deserved the title had we got to the end of the season with Oscar World Champion. But he missed out narrowly. The fans went for Landon Norris as well with an 8.2 out of 10 exactly the same as what I went for. A best of 10 in Australia,

Monaco, Austria, Silverstone, Mexico and Brazil and a worst of three in Baku. Now, the winner, P1, in the driver ratings. you probably have figured it out for all of us but for me it's Max Vastappen

with an 8.6 out of 10 a best grade of 10 in Australia Japan, Imala, Monza, Baku, Kota, Las Vegas and Abu Dhabi and a worst of zero in Spain. The guy gets a zero and still tops the driver ratings this is hand in hand

an example of not having the best car for maybe half the season. He did have the best package occasionally. He made it work. I'm not saying that Red Bull were the underdogs the entire season. They figured it out, especially after Spain. There was a great amount of races that they just hooked it up. But you can also see that any time he was pulling in really good performances in Australia. It didn't win, but that was a 10 out of 10 performance because we deemed the Red Bull to be quite

far off but the wet weather closed it all up and yeah I mean he would have won by I don't know how it would have been maybe another point or point two perhaps if without that zero had he just finished and got the points and won the world championship to me sorry I'm sorry I just had to say it I'm sorry spain zero zero out of ten you literally take the Mickey out of me all the time about Charlotte clone Ferrari let me have this one but Max Verstappen was the driver of the season I wouldn't change it despite Lando being world champion Max you see said it so beautifully in our podcast about how proud you were of just being a Max fan and watching him perhaps have one of, if not his best seasons in terms of hauling a car that didn't

deserve to be there half the time into positions to potentially win. And look, Max is in his prime. We should all, whether you're a fan of him or not, we should enjoy what he's able to do with the car, especially when he's not potentially in the fastest package, because that's when I think Max Verstappen is, I was going to say fully unleashed, but then I was going to say fully unleashed, I remember 2023 when he broke almost every record for win streaks and things like that. He's pretty good most seasons. I think that's a fact. So my number one, no surprises, Max, just happened with an 8.7 out of 10.

His best was a 10 in Australia, Japan, Imala Manza, Baku, Kota, Brazil, Vegas, Abu Dhabi, and his worst was, of course, the one in Spain. Can't remember what happened there. Crazy. Yeah, I know. And, yeah, like, what a season Max has had, as mentioned. you know it's been unbelievable what he's managed to achieve he shouldn't really have been in the title anyway which is why despite maybe you know on paper it's absolutely gutting that he finished two points off and so nearly won the world championship but in a weird way because I never thought he was in the championship and it's not like he's lost it when he was leading or something like that or or he ever looked like he was really going to be. in that championship, particularly as it all happened at the end, that is what kind of made it

maybe less gutting. So, yeah, he's had an unbelievable season. He's shown this year, I think doubted a lot of his haters and people that maybe thinks it was all just the car. You know, for me, where the title was lost was that run after Austria when the, the, the form just fell off too much. McLaren were getting one, two, so fun. And he could only really finish races in fifth, fourth, at Hungary all the way down in ninth. They just had nothing there.

So, yeah, an amazing season for Max and the top driver of the year. And the fans have also gone for Max Verstappen with an 8.4 out of 10 average grade. Not as glazing as me and you, Tommy, with an 8.6 and 8.7, But a best of 10 in Japan, Imala Monsabaku, Kota, Brazil, Las Vegas, Qatar and Abu Dhabi, and a worst of zero in Spain. There you go.

Can I just talk about something actually about Max? Oh, sharp, you want to talk about Max. The midseason rating from the fans, Max was the fifth on the list. He was behind Charlotte Clare, behind Russell, behind Norris, behind Piastri. Yeah, I guess the midseason, there was a zero just prior to. So that wasn't there, which didn't help. We just had him as second. And that would have been on, as he got onto that run of his fifth, his fourth, his ninth,

before, of course, the end of the season where he was never off the podium even when he started from the pit lane. Crazy to, crazy, actually, one more crazy prediction that's not been mentioned is there's something really badly aged that I just remembered. And this kind of shows how insane Max has. Chapin's comeback was that we did, we did our bold predictions for the rest of the season where we got you to say what your bold prediction was. Yeah.

And one of those in that situation was that Max Verstappen finishes behind George Russell and the championship. And he'd just got on a run of fifth, fourth and ninth. And we were like, yeah, I don't think that's actually that crazy. And he finished two points of winning the world title. Yeah, that's mad. crazy and ended up how many points out of George?

102. So yeah madness. Yeah the run that Max went on was simply stunning but just just short I'm afraid Tommy. Indeed. There you go right our average driver ratings are done. Bruno says hi and goodbye

does Frank as well there he is the goat the OG. Sorry Bruno I didn't mean the goat I'm sorry you're the goat you're the goat And that is it. Thank you everybody for tuning. And I hope you enjoyed looking back on all of this. I really love it. I love just looking back at the averages and what we predict and this one in particular because it really does give a full picture of where we see each driver and how they've performed in the year. Tommy, final thoughts please. Final thoughts. Thank you for all enjoying driver ratings this year. It's been amazing. One thing I'd really like to get some information on and maybe we do a poll on our social media. and YouTube community is we have discussed about potentially maybe mixing up driver ratings to do like an order from like 20th to first of the drivers like I do wonder if that would

maybe help with the situation of us having a bit more mixed grades and things and and looking a little bit different in some ways I think that would actually be harder I don't know that's that's my my first thought is well how do you how do you judge who did this and who did that someone else like if they've both had, I don't know. I feel like the numbers, because then, yeah, I don't know. Let us know what you think. We're open to feedback. We are.

And for everyone that says, why it grades the same, it's like, because when someone crashes, we're not going to be like, I think it's a 10 actually. Yeah, exactly. But there we go. It's been really fun. Thank you for all enjoying this. And if you're very confused on audio, it's because we both have our dogs. Have dogs.

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I don't know if we've got any more recap content. This is pretty much it now. I think we've got some live reaction stuff coming out. And yeah, that is it. This is the last audio podcast. So I'll say Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone. Oh, wow. Unless some breaking news happens, in which case.

Yeah, I can't wait for that. Christmas Day. Yeah, yeah, just get the turkey and, well, to be fair, not for you, you're a vegan, but whatever it might well be, some butternut squash hanging out your mouth and get the pod going. But that is it. Thank you, everybody. We'll see you very soon. Lots of love, take care. Adiosk.

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