P1 with Matt and Tommy - Our 2025 F1 Driver Ratings: P21 to P11

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

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Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. Driver ratings, but this time we're not actually saying any more driver ratings. We are looking back at the entire season to see how our grades stacked up and to grade and rate. Well, we're not grade, we're just kind of averaging, aren't we? From 21st, all the way to first, 21st, of course being Jack Dewan. The entirety... Spoiler. I know, sorry. Sorry, spoiler alert. Jack Doan was in fact in this season. If you haven't watched the 2025 season and you're watching this, I recommend going and watching

the races first. But yes, we're going to be looking at how essentially moving and removing, in fact, the recency bias that a lot of us Formula One fans can experience and seeing where all the drivers stacked up. Indeed. Yeah, like I say, it's average of the whole season. no recency bias. Obviously, a lot of the drivers have had a tale of two halves. And also, what's exciting about this is, um, I don't know as well, like, uh, what, what's going to arrive? And neither do you. Like, the whole sheet has been prepared for us by a lovely assistant. And, uh, what's going to arrive? I was like, what, what is arriving? Yeah. So, so I'm, I'm sort of like, excited and also going, oh god like what what are we going to get here like is it going to age really badly and people are

going to be like oh my god why is this guy there we're about to find out yeah we don't usually have our sheets prepared for us but this one no this one i wanted to go in blind yeah completely blind and react to it as we go so very exciting a quick note if a driver has the same grade it goes on countbacks just like the real f1 championship so the driver with the most tens then the most nines then the most eights and that's how they position either one way or the other Right, let's begin. 21st position for our average driver ratings across the entire 2025 season. For me was Jack Dewan with a 3.7 average grade.

He had a best grade of six in Bahrain and a two in Australia. The two, I think, was, you know, he's a rookie, slippery conditions, went on the line and crashed out. But I'm not surprised. It was, you know, an upsetting few races for Jack Dewan. I hope Doan can one day look back fondly that he got to Formula One, but I'm sure it will sting quite a lot because he had, honestly, I can't think of any driver, any rookie that's come into a season and been essentially just understood across the entire Formula One community in Paddock that he's going to lose his seat

almost no matter what. Indeed. Yeah. So P-21 for me is also Jack Dune with his. exactly the same average grade. 3.7. Best, of course, the six in Bahrain. Worst a three in Australia, Japan, Saudi, and Miami. He had a really difficult season, of course, not even a full season, only the few races that he did. Bahrain was the only standout every other grade.

You know, I mentioned those threes. He got four in China. Not a good season for him, of course. He was kind of doomed from the start, had some big crashes. as well. And yeah, I think I think the fact that he is kind of gutting that he didn't manage to you know, even achieve like a points finish or something because I don't think the Alpine was as bad at that stage. It still wasn't an amazing car, but certainly wasn't the absolute tractor that it was towards the end of the season. The fans also gave it to Jack Dewan with a 4.2 average grade, six in Bahrain and a worst of three in Miami.

Right, let's go to 20th position. 20th position, I have Franco Colapinto with a grade of 4.7. His best was a 7 in Singapore, Canada and the Netherlands, and his worst was a 2 in Silverstone. Yeah, Colapinto, obviously he didn't have a point scoring finish. I do believe that the Alpine was worse, particularly towards the end of the season. I can understand people saying that it's close between Dewin and Colopinto. I don't personally agree.

I think Dewan was worse, and my grades obviously reflect that. Maybe Colopinto's in a weird way fortunate that the car was worse, so it maybe didn't look as bad that, you know, in some of the races where he was finishing 20th on the road, it was only one position behind Gasly in 19th, so it didn't look so bad. But Colopinto had his races where he was beating Gasly as well, which is why it's reflected of him being

a whole grade higher than what doing achieved. My 20th position was also Franco Colopinto with exactly the same average of 4.7. I gave two 7 out of 10s in Canada and Netherlands and a worst of 1 in Silverstone. I'm not really surprised that Franco's down here. He had odds stacked against him as well because he came into the season without pre-season testing.

He just was put in the car after Dewan was dropped. Now, he did have a little bit of experience, of course, in the previous season, but still very much treated as a rookie. And, you know, I echo your thoughts in the fact that a lot of his performances may have gone unnoticed towards the end of the season when he was matching Ghazley, but then Pierre Ghazley just randomly just got one with the car and scored some points. And that was slightly surprising at times, for sure, for Gazley. And, yeah, it's not a bad season for Franco.

I'm sure he will want, well, he'll need to do better next year. You know, he can't be having a no points haul for next year, especially with Alpine putting lots of resource into 2026. I think in some ways it's worked quite nicely for him to just get used to Formula One, to embed himself and get used to the calendar and things like that. Next year, he needs to step it up. And, well, step it up in the sense of score points, but also match Gazley

and that will be something that he can be happy with and I think the team as well. The fans also gave it to Franco Colopinto with a lower average score of a 4.2 and he was tied with Dewan who was of course was in 21st a best of six in Netherlands and Canada

and a zero in Silverstone the fans were not happy at all and Colapinto was higher because he had more sixes out of 10 it was that close between the two of them. There you go, very close indeed. 19th position. Mine goes to Yuki Sonoda with a 5.1 average, a best of 9 out of 10 in Australia and a worst of

twos in Austria and Silverstone. Such a painful thing to even have to talk about for Yuki. He would have been so much higher had he never gone to Red Bull, but this is the beauty and curse of driver ratings because one of the, the, the, biggest things we have to take into account are where the teammate ended up. It's the only glimpse we ever get as to the potential of the car and that second seat similar to how Perez struggled. And everyone before him and Lawson, of course, in the sense of we have to compare to Max Verstappen. And Yuki, Australia was one of his highest and that was when he wasn't even

in the Red Bull. So that tells you all you need to know about where Yuki should have stayed and just such a disappointing season overall. So yes, I have the same driver in 19th, Yuki Sanoda, a worse result overall with a 4.8 out of 10. His best grade was a 9 in Australia for me and his worst was a 1 in Austria. The 9, of course, being when he wasn't even in that Red Bull. And as we say in every single driver ratings, you know, you can tick it off the bingo sheet. yes, we don't know it's a very hard driver to grade

because of how weird that second Red Bull seat is but as we mentioned so many times we had to grade him in the same way we did with Sergio Perez the previous year as we did with Liam Lawson at the start of the season and he had a really poor run of form finishing 17th

in the World Championship when his teammate almost won it is not great reading even with the curse of the second seat. So a really sad way for Yuki to probably end his Formula One career because I really wanted to see him in that Red Bull. Really looking forward to seeing him in the Red Bull when he jumped in. But it did not go well to say the very least.

The fans put Lance Stroll in 19th with a 4.5 average grade, a best of eight in Australia, Silverstone, Hungary and the Netherlands, but a zero in Spain and Japan. And when you look at his grades, especially from the fans, they're either high or low. Yeah, it's not great reading. You know, as soon as Lance doesn't turn up or has like a reasonable sort of, we would probably give him a three out of ten, four out of ten. The fans were like, no, one out of ten, zero out of ten. And that's the reason why his grades are so low from the fans.

But equally, at any time he does anything good, everyone's like, yeah, eight, nine, ten, whatever. And then, yeah. But the fact he has a four point five average suggests that there were more stinkers. and horrendous grades from the fans than there were great ones. Let's head to 18th position. 18th for me is Lance Stroll with an average grade of 5.0.

His best grade was an 8 which he got in Australia, Silverstone and Hungary and his worst was a two in Japan, Canada and Qatar. Lance Stroll at the start of the season of course, you know, was in that fight with Fernando Alonzo. He got a brilliant six.

place in Australia and then followed it up with a points finish Alonzo could not get in the points. He was having a lot of poor luck, also a lot of 11th places. And it was like, oh my God, Lance Stroll's actually going to, you know, beat him in the championship. But, you know, his form kind of dropped off. He still had his good races where particularly those kind of like weird races where you have an unusual like wet race or something crazy happens. Lance Stroll is really one of those drivers that even when he qualifies poorly which is a lot of the time he manages to deliver a good result and some people may look at the championship table and say oh it's scored 33 points it's not not that bad but as you say you can only go on what

we see in the head to head and the head to head is not great reading at all alonzo's beating him 168 in the race and in qualifying Alonzo's beaten him 24-0 which is crazy so yeah not a great season for Stroll despite some high moments if you include the sprint quality as well

would it be 30-0 I assume No the sprint quality was though he did one I think it was China it was 5-1 in the sprint quality as well so Alonzo washed okay my 18th position was Lance Stroll as well with a 5.1 average grade, was tied with Sonoda for me, but had more nines. So Lance Stroll got a nine from me in

Australia with that sixth place and then a one out of 10 in Japan. For Lance Stroll, yeah, he scored 18 less, sorry, no, more than that, 23 less points than Fernando Alonzo. But still, you know, a decent haul of points for Lance, but the problem is for him, he goes on a run of just stinkers. He goes on a run of, he's such a strange driver to sort of follow because he will have these great performances and you go, there he is. Wow, what a great race from Lance. What a great

strategy like in Silverstone. Things like that where you just go, oh, Lance does care. But then he'll have three or four races where he'll be knocked out in Q1. You look at his results. Six and ninth to start the season. Then it's 20th, 17th, 16th, 16th. Got a P5 in Miami. the sprint. Then 15th, 15th, withdrawn, 17th, 14th. And then towards the end of the season

as well, he didn't score a point after the Netherlands, 18th, 17th, and then the 13th, 12th, 14th, 16th, retired 17th. So, and then what happened in Abu Dhabi as well? P10. So we've got a point there. But this is the reason why, you know, these are the averages. This is where the, the recency bias comes out or just the, oh, he had good points finishes and here there. If he doesn't put a consistent season together, he's going to be low in our driver ratings. And this is, and this is what has shown. So not surprised at all to see Lance down in 18th. The fans, Yuki Sanoda, with a 5.2 average grade, a best of eight in China and Baku, and a worst of two in Austria and Silverstone. P17 in our driver ratings average. For me, goes to Liam Lawson with a 5.5 average

grade, a best of 10 in Austria and Baku, and a worst of one in China. I think Liam Lawson may well have had a chance, a sniff of being higher up had he not started at Red Ball with those two races at the beginning of the season, because I gave him a, what did I give him? I'm looking at yours, sorry, we go to Liam Lawson. I gave him a two and a one at the start of the year, which of course does not help an average grade in the slightest. Lawson's season, again, sort of pockets of really good drives, but not enough. I'm not going to liken him to Lance Stroll season, but there weren't enough massive performances to maybe thrust his way further up the order for me.

I look at the season for him. You know, he had some great points finishes. Baku being one of them, of course, in P5, a sixth in Austria. For Lawson, though, he was on the back foot. I will absolutely say that as well with the fact that he had this. Red Bull disaster. He then goes into a car. He's not done preseason testing. And of course, it's not going to be insanely different because he was in the car at moments in the season before. But I think Lawson's done a pretty good job, you know, 14th in the championship. Hadjar,

you know, took all the headlines and finished 13 points further down the road. So for Lawson's season, it's 17th. And that's purely from the consistency of it, but not a disaster of a season, considering he's P-17 of my averages. No, I've got Liam Lawson as well in 17th with a 5.6, best being, of course, Baku and Austria, worse being that one out of 10 in China. I'm surprised Liam Lawson is this low because I think he has had a decent season

when you take away that Red Bull stint and the start of his V-cab stint where he took a while. the kind of final few races he was a match for Hadjar and I think you know the highlight being back here where he had that absolutely sensational qualifying and then backed up with a great performance in the race as well but when I look back on it I think the reason he is so low you mentioned his kind of inconsistency with with the Red Bull you know of course I gave him a two and a one as well because it was really poor but he's had a lot of races this year where he's taken a front wing off or had contact with other drivers

and yes he's had his great races where he's got tens and eights and sevens and things from us but you know when he gets picks up penalties and things like taking his wing off obviously we're giving him like fours and things and that's bringing his whole average grade down so yeah maybe a surprise but when you look at it overall it's been a very inconsistent season for Lawson in 17th for the fans is also Liam Lawson so we're in agreement 0.2 separating Thomas 5.6, my 5.5. And the fans 5.4 out of 10. And they also give a 10 in Austria and a one in China. Let's go to P16. P. 16 is Pierre Galsley with an average grade. It was a little bit of a pier. There was a little bit of a pier. Pierre. It's because Grace always

says Pierre. 5.8, Gassley got. His best was a 10 in Silverstone. Of course, an incredible drive to get points in that tractor. His worst was a two in Monaco. Gassley has his rating, I would say so, been affected by the fact that he's driving a really bad car. So even if he's had the race of his life and finished 19th, we're giving him a 5 out of 10 because we just don't know. I love that. We constantly give a little nod to Alex Albon who told us that in the interview about, you know, man, Tommy gave me a 4 and I'd had the drive of my life. it's given us context it's open our eyes not that's changed the grades

no it hasn't changed the grade because you can't you can't we can't say I reckon Gasley would have won that race little like yeah yeah it might have though it's funny to think about and of course you know if he smashes his teammate by 20 seconds in the 19th place we give him his props

and give him like a 7 and or 8 or whatever so we've done that throughout the season Gasley just hasn't had the car to compete 18th in the championship a shocking year I don't think 16th reflects, you know, his drive. But then he did, you know, fall off a little bit and wasn't looking all too great at the kind of midpoint of the season and got outqualified by Colopinto for quite a few races and things. So yeah, I'm sure it will change if the Alpine is

much better. My P-16 was also Pierre Gazley. We're all pretty much in agreement. We've been in agreement the entire time, Tommy. Let's hope it doesn't go for the entirety of the whole order. No, I don't think it does. But my Pierre Gassel, my Pierre Gassley, my Pierre Gassley, P-16 was Pierre Gassley for me with a 5.8 average as well. I gave a 10 in Bahrain and Silverstone and a worst of three in Monaco and Hungary. When I look at Pierre Gassley's season in terms of where he scored points,

you know, I'm sat there and I'm going, you know, he probably shouldn't have been 16th in the average driver ratings, considering the Alpine car. you know but then I think we have well I've I've reflected I gave him a 10 in Bahrain Tommy didn't crazy scenes I think looking back at it now you gave him a nine I think and clearly it wasn't on the podium so not good enough but you know when we look at the season now as alpine you can clearly see that there was literally no effort put into Alpine this 2025 campaign but he is the you know he is affected by the fact that he was for a lot of the

season at the back fighting Colapinto but then that is what we also factored into our grades a lot of the time is that, oh, well, it kind of looks worse on Gasly fighting Colopinto than it does Colapinto fighting, fighting Gasly, because Colapinto's a newer driver and Gasly is a race winner and a proven one to be able to score podiums and be at the front. So, yeah, I think the fact that he was at the back a lot of the time, we would then not really give a nod to that, but that's purely down. Particularly, you can't, unfortunately, and it's not on him, but like, it's hard. to be 16th when you've, like, beaten your teammate through the whole year, scored 22 points

when your teammates have scored non. But equally, we can't be giving eights every week because he's finished 19th and the RPA being his teammate. So it's a tough. It's tough. The only way he would get those higher grades as if he, you know, put 30 seconds on Colopinto or whatever it might have been. Okay, the fans gave Pierre Gazley a 5.5 and 16th as well. We're all in agreement. I'm crying right now. You wouldn't think that by the comments. Best grade from the fans was a nine in Silverstone and Barone. Goodness gracious. No tens for Gazley at all throughout the whole year from the fans.

Not even Silverstone. Crazy. And a three for Hungary and Singapore. We're now going to 15th position. Mine is Gabrielle Bortoletto with a 5.8 average. It was tied with Gassley but has more 9 out of tens. Gabby had a best of 10 out of 10 in Austria and Hungary from me and a worst of one in Brazil and Las Vegas. Bortoletto's season

again hindered by the Salber I'd say for maybe half of it but then the Salber came really good and I think we will I haven't seen where Holkenberg is in my list but I'm imagining he's going to be pretty high especially considering he took an 11

from both of us at one point as well but for Bortoletto he can be proud of his season as a rookie as much as he's 15th that's not a slander is just the fact that they are everyone's so close right

and if you have a string of three, four, five races where it's subpar, it can catapult you down, down the order. So for Bortoletto, I think he can be very happy with this season overall. He's shown that he's got some great performances in him. You know, I'm looking at Canada. I'm looking at Silverstone, Spa, the Netherlands as well. Bortoletto had a great run of races in the middle of the season. And so, yeah, I'm excited to see what he can do at 2026 and beyond.

I also have Gabrielle Bortoletto. It will change, I'm sure, at some point, hopefully. And if not, we can have a hug at the end. Indeed. We can hug anyway, why not? With a 5.9 out of 10, best was his 10 in Austria and Hungary and his worst was a one in Vegas and Brazil. His season at the end of the day has been a mixed bag. He is a rookie, so that is part of it as well.

And, of course, his grade will have absolutely plummeted with the shocking races he had in Las Vegas and Brazil, where he crashed out on lap one and then also had in Vegas and then had that shocking double crash out in Brazil in the sprint and the main race. But he's had those kind of high moments where, like, in the middle of the season, he went on that run where the Saabur looked quite good and he got an eighth, a ninth, the sixth, and an eighth quite, close together and we're kind of thinking okay he could like rocket his way up the championship but unfortunately only you know one more points finish after that um and it it didn't really go go to plan and i don't think i think of all the drivers and i'm not saying he's been better than nico holcombberg and holkenberg deserves a huge amount of credit and i'm sure that will be reflected from his grade but i think of all the drivers holcombberg finishing 11th in the championship was all the points he's scored versus Bortoletto all the way down in 19th.

If you look to that on paper, you'd say Bortolete is absolutely useless, and that is certainly not the case. You look at the head to head in qualifying, Bortoletto was outscored Holkenberg 12 to 11, and in the race, it's 12, 11 in Holkenberg's favour. So incredibly close, Holkenberg's just maximised the big results, and that's why he's so far up, and that is experience, so there we go. Yeah, for sure. I think, you know, if I was to change around, I would probably swap Ghazley and Bortoletto around considering the performance of the cars. Like I feel like Bortoletto for the majority of the season has had a better car than

Ghazley. Of course, he is a rookie and that's where we factor in sometimes our grades and are a little bit more forgiving. But I mean, that's just a swap of one position in our average driver ratings. The fans also gave it to Gabby Bortoletto with a 5.7 average grade, a 10 in Austria and Hungary and a worst of one in Las Vegas. Let's go to 14th position, Tommy. 14th, it's oof time, it's Lewis Hamilton, 6.0.

His best was an eight in China, Imola, Austria, Silverstone, and Circuit of the Americas, and his worst was a two in Qatar. My word, Lewis Hamilton, some people, you know, 14th sound incredibly harsh. Dare I say some people would put him even lower than that if you were picking. He's had an awful season. I'm not going to be around the bush here. We don't want to see it. We've said it so many times.

We don't want to see him fail. It was so exciting seeing him go to Ferrari. But my word, has it been a stinker of a season for Lewis Hamilton? You know, absolutely trounced by Charlotte Clare in the points tally. Of course, the headline being that he's not scored a podium this season when the likes of Holkenberg, Hadjar, science got two podiums. it's not not gone well and you think a driver of lewis hamilton's caliber you know he's not he's not received a nine all season never mind a ten he's not he's not had any particularly stunning drives

where you've kind of gone oh let hamilton still has it in him and then of course you know it's the the other grades uh have been much lower than that and had some really poor results particularly towards the end of the season where he was qualifying and not even making it into Q2. So what an awful, awful year for Lewis Hamilton. I could not have predicted. No one could have predicted it have been this bad. And we'd just wait to see what he can do in 26

and see if he can turn his form around in a new regulation set. Because he needs to. He absolutely does. In 14th position for me is Lewis Hamilton as well, with a 6.1 average grade, a best of eight in China, Imala, Austria, Silverstone and Cota, and a worst of two in the Netherlands. You would have been absolute, like the comments, if either of us had said, you know, Hamilton would not get a podium at Ferrari, that people would have been like,

what are you talking about? I think you were saying not a win at that stage, never mind not a podium. Yeah, not a win, not a podium. considering as well sprint win of course I can hear everyone and shouting sprint win sprint win yeah sprint win

um and then follow it up with a disqualification thank you Ferrari uh in the main race yeah the fact that there's not been one singular nine as well I'm surprised in the sense of like if you were to tell me before the season but not surprised now knowing the season that there hasn't been a high grade because he hasn't had a podium so of course silverstone was was close where he was chasing down Holcomberg but then you were factoring in these things of like he's chasing

Holcombode for this and like it was a decent driving Silverstone when you compare it to Charlerc who once again had the most disastrous Silverstone ever I feel like you know he's just destined to never really and throwing the wet and throwing the wet but yeah just such a tough season for Lewis Hamilton I just can't believe what I'm looking at when I look at his results it's it's just been yeah really really quite you know you look at the qualifying in particular Hamilton, of course, with every record under the sun when it comes to polls and victories. Yeah, it's been tough to watch. Hamilton hasn't been great in this ground effect era. We know this. But this has got worse than what was happening in Mercedes, where he was close with

George Russell, beating him sometimes, getting beaten by George other times. This was a comprehensive beating by Charles LeCler when you look at the head to heads and things like that. So I hope for Hamilton, he's back in 2026. Formula One is better when Lewis Hamilton is. performing. It's as simple as that. We love to watch Hamilton at the front. So fingers crossed, the new regs work for him. The fans, Esteban Okon, is in P14 for them. With the best of nine in China, Bahrain and Monaco, with a worst of three in Japan and Singapore. We will reflect on Ocon when we put him in our order. P13, Esteban Okon, with a 6.2 average grade. I gave him a 10 in China and Monaco is his best and the worst of three in Japan.

Esteban Ocon's season, again, you look at the ones that are lower in our order, you know, the Bortolettos, the Gazleys, the Lawsons, you know, they've had topsy-turvy seasons and Ocon is exactly the same. Ocon's season started so brilliantly. China, as I said, 10, a 10 in Monaco as well. but then you look towards the sort of second half of the season it was where Olly Behrman was going on an insane run of form and Ockon just couldn't sort it out on Saturdays

there would be the occasional race where he'd pull off a miracle strategy which props to him for making that work he'd go pit on lap one and do something insane on the hards or whatever it might be Esteban was pretty good in the races for the majority of the season but he just couldn't put himself in the position that he had to roll the dice with a lot with a lot of things after some poor Saturdays. Overall, they finished three points behind Olly Berman in the championship.

He probably won't look back on this season particularly fondly, but he can bounce back. He's had good enough performances this season that it's not like, wow, Esteban was so bad this year. But it just wasn't consistent from him and we shall see what he brings next year. 13th is Esteban Okon with a 6.4 his best of course 10 in China and Monaco and his worst was a three in in Japan he was yeah a driver that I expected a new lease of life after the bad time he had towards the end of his alpine stint and he kind of showed that at the start a fifth in China

and 8th in Bahrain, a seventh in Monaco. And yeah, he was scoring a lot of points for Hass while his teammate Bearman was like maybe a bit more inconsistent and still scoring points, but obviously not as many as his teammate. But then, yeah, the form dropped off qualifying seems to have been really as Achilles heel. Like so many times Ocon was qualifying. Low down the order, you know, you look at the head-to-head and it was, it was. was 1410 in bearman's favour, the sprint actually four two as well. So qualifying was where Bearman had the upper hand. In the race, it was actually 12 all. But Ocon just didn't have enough performances throughout the year. And of course, you expect him as the elder statement

and a race winner, of course, to be beating Bearman. And he did not. So not the best season for Esteban Ocon. 13th for the fans. Carlos Sines with a 6.4 average grade. That is, that does feel low, doesn't it? It really does. The best of 10 in Baku and Qatar and a worst of four in Australia and Spain for Carlos. We now go to 12th position. 12th is Kimmy Antonelli for me with a 6.4.

He's actually the same grade, of course, overall as Okon, but he has more 10s, which he got in Australia, Canada, Brazil, and then his worst was a two in Monaco, Austria and Belgium. What a mixed bag for Kimi Antonelli. You know, I don't think there's many drivers on this list that have three tens and then three twos. He really did have some really, really strong races. You look at his debut where he got all the way onto the podium.

Canada, he was absolutely super. Herb had a really great end to the season as well, Kimmy, Brazil, of course, being a standout. But too many races where he qualified poorly and then finished poorly as well, it would either be, oh my God, Kimmy is really showing something, he's got a podium, or he's got a really solid result, or finished just behind George on the road, or even beat George on the road. And then it's felt like maybe in a couple of races' time, maybe qualifying 15th and finishing 12 or something so yeah a really mixed bag for for antonelli and um overall like i think overall he didn't show insane hype that it's like oh my god he's unbelievable but i do

think he showed why mercedes picked him because you can see he's got a very high ceiling and if he just it becomes a consistent driver he's of course still very young he was thrown in to Mercedes as a rookie, it is huge pressure replacing Lewis Hamilton. And he showed that he's got what it takes. He now just needs to like fine tune it. He certainly does. My P-12, Kimmy Antonelli. We're on a run of agreement right now. 6.3 out of 10 average, a best of 10 in Australia, Canada and Brazil, a worst of two in the Netherlands and Belgium. Kimmy Antonelli's driver ratings average position, which I know he will lose sleep on, was essentially, you know, to not finish in the top 10 was lost

from the run from Austria to the Netherlands, essentially, with obviously Monaco as well being a disappointment. Now, if I look at Monaco, we've got three, you got a two in Austria, a five in Silverstone, a two in Belgium, a five in Hungary, and a two in the Netherlands. That's, you know, we're getting into the point one's, the point two's to literally put you three, four, five places up the order. And this is what has affected Antonelli. Again, not having that full consistency over a year to be able to essentially score very solidly throughout those 24 races. But for Kimmy, overall, when you look at how he crashed in the practice of Monza to now putting a season together like that, he has silenced, I think, a lot of critics in some ways. The critics can still

say, does he have a whole season in him where he doesn't make a handful of mistakes? That's what we're yet to see. With new regs, I'm excited to see just how adaptable he is as a driver. And it may well work in his favour to, you know, with the fact he's young and got a lot of talent that he can learn with everybody else, be learning an entirely new different car in 2026. But overall, 12th kind of makes sense. But it's not as disappointing a season as perhaps that that may suggest. The fans, Isaac Hadjar

with a 6.4 out of 10, which is a big oof. 12th. 12th from the fans for Hadjar, potentially a lot of rookie of the season

nominees out there. And yeah, P12. That is crazy. A best of 10 in Monaco and Netherlands and a worst of zero in Australia.

P11. My 11th place is Carlos Sines with a 6.5 overall grade, a best of 10 in Baku, Las Vegas, Qatar, and a worst of three in Australia and Austria. Carlos's season, absolute madness. I'll be honest with you. Absolute craziness. Because the colours that you see are a lot of points finishes for Carlos. And it's weird because you look at the first half of the season. He did score points. But the thing was Alex was scoring

quite a lot more so therefore his grade was naturally going down ever so slightly he then had a difficult run from Silverstone to Monza and again

a few after as well in Austin Mexico not being able to score big points of course Austin he had a great sprint Carlos again like two podiums

though so he had some massive results but sadly there were moments it just wasn't working out for him he was getting bad luck in that Williams

Carr and doesn't necessarily mean he's getting really low grades, but he's not able to get the big grades that Alex Albon was getting at the start of the season. But overall, Carl's can be very happy with his first season at Williams. To score two podiums, he was absolutely thriving at the end of the season with those results. And 11th feels harsh, but I'm not surprised to see him there, considering you take into account the whole season and how great Alex was in the first half. In 11th, I have Carlos Sainz with a 6.5. We've agreed from 21st to 11th.

Right, I'm actually seeing a note in this document right now that says we disagree a lot in the top 10. Don't worry. Okay, so fine. We are not the same person the entire way through. Thank God. Yeah, thankfully. A best for Carlos was 10, of course, in Baku, Vegas, Qatar. His worst was 2 in Australia.

Some people may be surprised to see Carlos. low down um of course he was lower in the fan grade um because he had an amazing end of the season you know he got two podiums he got three tens towards the end of the season after having what we said was you know Carlos was arguably the most disappointing driver of the first half of the season i don't think you can deny that the hype between and and you know i'm looking at our mid-season driver grades and this is probably why that Carlos is this low his average was a 5.9 we both gave him from the fans and we gave him a six he was lower than ghastly um at this stage uh in in the champion in our driver ratings championship um so it's been a tell of two hearts of course at

the end of the season he went on this amazing points run two podiums grabbed some really big results And as you said, he scored good points at the start of the season. The problem for him was that Albin was scoring fifth places for fun at the start of the year, which is why Carlos, yeah, is this low, if you'd have just covered the end of the season. I'm sure it'd be very high up on this list, but alas, it's over the whole season. You can only score tens apart from one random 11 out of 10 that we gave to Holkenberg in Silverstone. But yeah, you can't score more than a 10 just because you've had an incredible podium. You can't be making up for lost ground in other parts of the season.

In 11th place for the fans, Nico Holcomberg, with a 6.4 out of 10, a best of 10 in Spain and Silverstone and a worst of no greater Monza or three in Singapore. Okay, interesting. That is very, very interesting. We've not uttered Nico's name, and I think for good reason. Yeah, and you'll have noticed that 6.4 for... Holkenberg, Hajjar and Sites have all got the same grades from the fans in 11th, 12th and 13th. Wow, very close indeed.

Right, so that's it for part one. Join us tomorrow for part two, the 10th to first. And that's going to be a big one. Where we actually disagree. We'll disagree so much. Join us then. Stack production and part of the ACAST creator network.