P1 with Matt and Tommy - Our 2025 F1 season predictions

Episode Date: February 3, 2025

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Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. Oh my God, we're here. The 2025 F1 season predictions has arrived. It is fully. It's just momentum from here on, Tommy. We have got Formula One pretty much on our doorstep. We're ready to drop some seriously interesting predictions, I'm sure. How are you feeling ahead of this?

I'm actually genuinely really hyped for this one because we've predictions for a long time now, but no predictions have ever been, I think, as exciting and unpredictable, because we genuinely don't know what each other is predicting. And I think just going into the season, there's so many unknowns, even though it's not a rule change. So I'm, like, genuinely excited to see what you've done and what, like, discuss it, because I have no idea what you're going to predict, which is wonderful. It is wonderful. 2025, please don't Screw with us. I beg.

The expectations are too high across the board. Formula One fans are genuinely looking forward to a championship fight. Do not screw us over, Red Bull or Max Verstappen probably. But let's see. So how we're going to do it is, if you've listened to our podcast before, similar in the sense of surprise flop. But we've actually renamed it, okay? Because we are sick and tired of hearing people on social media go,

have you both got biggest flop if it's biggest? You can't both have biggest. So we've changed it now, haven't we, Tommy, to a good surprise, not biggest, a good surprise and a big flop. Yeah. So we basically just means if they've had a good or a bad race. So we don't have to justify them being the worst or the best. Exactly. Otherwise we just never get any points.

Yeah. How boring would our predictions be if there's always someone that had a more terrible race? And then we finished a season two one. That would not be ideal. No, it wouldn't be great. So let's get into it. Let's start with. A good surprise of the 2025 Formula One season.

And I'll kick things off, Thomas Bellingham. All right. Here we go. My big, I nearly said it. A good surprise. My good surprise is Olly Behrman. Now, it might not be completely surprising to you, considering what we said, I think, in the teammate battles.

But Olly Beerman is going to be my good surprise of the season because I don't think he's got enough hype. coming into this. I don't think he has. Of course, he's substituted in. He's done very well when he has substituted in. He's done incredibly well in practice sessions as well. And he's at a team that I believe he will be able to flourish in. I genuinely do. I think that Olly Berman is going to perhaps surprise with the name, get it, a lot of people. I do think he is a very special talent that has not been noticed yet across the board of Formula One fans. So I genuinely think he's going to cook this season.

Ollie Berman is my pick. Oh, yeah, he had three stand-in races all separately, which is quite weird as well, wasn't it? But yeah, he impressed, but very excited to see how he does for a full season. So my good surprise is Kimmy Antonali. Shock. God, this guy. All the eggs are going for the biggest downfall.

ever. Is there a downfall? I guess downfall from expectation. Yeah. So basically, I think Kimmy Antonelli was so overhyped that he's almost become underrated by everyone now

and everyone thinks he's going to be terrible. Is that the scale? Is it like, yeah. Not hyped, hiking. Looking at the comments of the clip we posted on social media of like,

do you reckon Antonelli will win a race? And everyone's like, no, it's going to be terrible. It's going to crash every single race, it's going to be awful. he's overhyped, he's terrible. And I just think he will have crashes.

No doubt. He'll be like Max was a bit erratic and have like crazy moments. But I also think there'll be races where it all comes together and he'll surprise a lot of people and show why he is incredibly hyped up by Toto Wolf because he does have something special about him. I think he's going to have to definitely like

kind of like Vastapa. and all these other drivers that come in that, as long as the speed's there, you kind of need to get rid of all the other stuff. And I think he does have that. So that's why I've gone for good surprise. I think we'll see moments of brilliance from him. I really hope because I'm backing him a lot. Yeah, it's going to be interesting, isn't it?

Because how do we measure a good surprise if he wins one race and DNFs the other 23? Does that count as definitely surprising? But yes, I can see it's either going one of two ways. Either he's excellent or he crashes so much that people are questioning him too early. He wasn't ready for the Mercedes. So much pressure. There's so much pressure on him. Exactly.

And he's up against a very good teammate in George Russell. So I'm very intrigued when we get to December how we will reflect on that as a good surprise. Let's go to a big flop. I'm going for points here I'm going for points and I feel like this is absolutely signed sealed delivered before the season's even begun

it's Jack Dewin it has to be Jack doing I'm sorry it's not Jack's fault there's nothing against Jack doing right now although he is very much unknown as to how quick he is

he's had Abu Dhabi and that's it and I'm like you can't really judge that race because Ocon just randomly very strangely got ousted out with Alpin with a race to go but I just feel as though all the cards are stacked against

Jack, which I do feel very sorry for him. And I just, I just, how, you're going against the current in, in this one. Colopinto very much looks as if he might even have the seat, however many races in. So I've gone for that purely because I can't, I don't think I can go for anyone else. It just makes sense in my head that this would be a flop. So sorry, Jack, it is nothing against you. It's just Alpine's way of going about things. by the looks of things.

I did see the team principal kind of made a comment about all these rumors and things and going, look, we're not trying to put pressure on him, you know, we're going to give him a chance and all this kind of stuff. Stop signing drivers then. Yeah, you don't sign Colapinto. If you, why would Colapinto sign a massive, lucrative contract to be a reserve driver? I really, really, I just, maybe Colipinto just loves how the Alpine merch looks. And he's like, I want to be in that for five years.

I want to sit on the pit wall. They've got really comfy chairs, Tommy. They really do. Okay, so a big flop. I have got four. If you dare, if you dare, if you dare utter my man. Ferrari.

That's half uttering my man. Are you kidding? No. So I've gone for Ferrari. I think, and this is, this is quite contradictory of my Kimi Antonelli analysis, but they are very hyped Ferrari going into this year. they're the Constructors' Championship favourites.

They're obviously expected to do... Are they are. They are. No, they are. I've looked at, like, bookies and stuff. They're the favourites. Are they? All right. From what I've seen, anyway.

You keep talking. And people are obviously hyped in the moment to have a great year and be very successful. My concerns are, firstly, the 2025 thing. I was very surprised when Fred Vassir said it's a completely different car. That to me is a very strange call to basically be like, we're going to go all in on this new concept just before the regulation change. And to me, you know, to save it sounding like, I think the reason for this is that I think Ferrari going to be exceptionally good in 2026.

And I think that if they start the year and they have the third fastest car straight out the blocks or fourth or whatever, they are basically like, right, all the eggs, 2026, let's go. And not that they'll like give up, but they'll just stop developing. I think they'll just,

it will be, because they are going to have such a huge advantage going into 2026 with the engine formula and everything like that. And I think it would really suit Ferrari that if they do not go straight in and hit the ground running and be very quick and looking like they can challenge for the title,

If they're a fair bit slower than McLaren, I genuinely think they'll just be like, right, let's focus on next year. And that's why I've gone for Ferrari. Well, I've done some research whilst you've been talking. McLaren have slightly better odds with some and are even with Ferrari on others. So they aren't the favourites, Tommy. Relax your opinions. So it's on British websites, though.

Yeah, actually, you're saying. I'm not going to say the betting websites, but yeah, I've looked at several, right? and it is either McLaren Ferrari at the same or McLaren's slightly ahead. But either or, Ferrari, yes, are going in there as strong contenders at the very least to this season. So I completely disagree.

I think you're completely finished. And is this the year that Tommy is the downfall of Tommy? That's what I'll be praying after that prediction. I'm going to clean sweep every prediction if that's what you're going to go with this year. Let's go to the next segment, which is Loses Race seat.

You go first. Go on. All right. Before I go first, we're going to clarify something as well. So basically, because there's a lot of confusion if we get to the end of the year and go, oh, but you said this and you said that and how do we actually dish out the points? We'll give a point if you're correct.

So you only have to say the driver that's going to lose their race seat or if it's no one. You get one point if it's correct. But if you go for multiple, you can essentially gamble to get more points. but if you go for more than one driver and that other driver doesn't get it, you don't get any points. God, we've talked about betting sites,

gambling. I just want to say to everyone, we're not sponsored by anything. No. But do you agree and understand? I agree. I agree. I think this is,

so this one is, I've gone really bold on this and gone lose his race seat, Jack doing. And that's it. Wow, that's groundbreaking. That is. We've said it before.

Feel very sorry for him, but you don't sign Colapinto to sit on the pit wall. And it is such a shame for Jack Dunn't have all this media pressure and everyone saying it, but there's a reason they're all saying it. And it's because, you know, it must be incredibly difficult to see Colapinto signed, and there's going to be a huge amount of pressure. And he's got to beat Pierre Gasly, I think. I think he genuinely has to, like, beat Pierre Gasly, otherwise they're going to swap him out. and I don't see that happening

because Gazley had such an exceptional end of the year. Exactly. It's interesting that we've brought in this new rule, the one point per correct, because I was thinking of some serious loopholes of just literally all 20 drivers lose their race seat and then I just cash in on whoever's right. But yes, I have gone for Jack Dewan

and... Tom Bellingham on the P1 pockets. Oh. I thought you're going to say Kimmy Antelli. No, well, no, but there are a few that you're like, could happen. Kimmy Antonelli. There's been rumours haven't there of Carlos going to Williams and then he could sub in at Mercedes or Bottas, of course, being reserved of apparently every team on the grid by the sounds of it.

So there are other potentials, but look, I'm not losing points here. It's better to have one than none. That's a big phrase for me there. So, yeah, Jack Dewan is the person that will lose their race. seat and that's all I'm going for here. New race winner. Do we believe someone who hasn't had P1 before is going to get P1? For me, it is no. No new race winner. And I have a feeling Tommy will be saying yes to this one because he is very much, as we've said several times, all legs in one particular person's basket. But for me, no new race winner, just purely because

we had so many, you know, we had Oscar Piastri ticket off, Landon Norris ticket off. So for me, I don't see another team that the only person is Kimmy Antonelli. And I don't think he's going to win a race this year. What about Lanstrol? It's got a newie car? The funny thing is, right, I changed my good surprise. And I was going to put Lance Stroll just purely because that man's expectations is in the, well, it's in the gravel trap really, isn't it?

Yeah. If he just does anything, if he beats Alonzo once. He makes one at Brazil. Yeah. He's basically done better. So I was thinking about that, but I changed. it just purely because I couldn't back him. I couldn't do it to myself.

It's a recipe for disaster. Exactly. As this might be. Here we go. Your race winner. I've gone for Kimi, Antonelli. I think you will have enough to, I don't think the Sadias will be that strong. So I'm taking a big risk here with that logic because I think they're going to be

another team that are going to be very much focused towards 2026. But I think it will still be close. and we saw even with Mercedes having such a unpredictable car, they went to have that random kind of stage in the middle of the season where the car could deliver. I think Antonelli just will be one of those drivers that he could just put in a spectacular performance and it all come together for him to get a race win

and it might be the one and only highlight of his season and then I can cash in good surprise, as we mentioned. But yeah, I could see him winning a race. as we mentioned when we did our kind of bold predictions. Okay. Wow. I mean, I'm glad you've done that. I'm glad you've stuck with your gut instinct.

It might not be, yeah. We've joked, haven't we, that we've Michael Masseyed, but genuinely not even Michael Masseyed it, where it just we do all these predictions throughout the whole year. Will it still be as close when there's so much to predict? If we go into another season and it gets down to like the final race again. Sign me up Okay, so that's

Going to be wrong But let's see We'll come back to that in December I'm sure one of us will get clipped up One way or another We're now going to Constructors Champion Which team is winning

My Constructors' Championship winner Is Drum roll please Ferrari Ferrari going to do it They're getting the dub Come on How could they not

They've got Lewis Hamilton and Charle of the same team. They are going to be scoring points on points on points. And I just fit, I just, Ferrari were decent last year. Not decent enough across the entire year, but they were decent. Charles LeCler was, and this is against your opinion, Tommy, was incredibly consistent for most of the year last year. He had a bit of a time, yes, where he got lap three out of the four races,

and we won't talk about that. But the rest of it, he was one of the drivers of the season. I don't think you can deny that. I agree with that. If Charles brings that again, which he seems to do most seasons, alongside a very motivated Lewis Hamilton. He's got Constructors' Championship rent all over it. I'm putting my house on it.

I don't have a house. Again, we are not sponsored by a vetting. So Constructors champion, no surprise based on my earlier prediction. I've gone for McLaren. not back in Lawson to have an absolute masterclass and I think Ferrari and Mercedes are going to kind of put their eggs in next year's basket so McLaren I feel like

have the perfect recipe to deliver a great season again they had a very very very strong car the best car in my opinion and a lot of people's opinions and you look back on well they won the Constructors Championship and they should have won the drivers as well Definitely. And going into the new season, I think the McLaren would be incredibly competitive again. And I think McLaren are more likely to gamble on basically being like this could be a massive year for us. Let's just keep development going. While the other teams are maybe keeping their eye on the next regulations and things like that, they might just be like, go on. Let's just go ham on this and get lots of wins and things.

I'm loving the picture of your painting of like they just come. into this season ago. Right, Australia's done. We're 14th on the grid. See you next year. Not quite that. But it has happened before. You look at 2013 and before the development, you know, like Red Bull and Vetter won this, like nine races in a row because everyone was just kind of like, right, you carry on. We'll focus on next year. I love this. And I can see that. The casual way of it. Go on, Seb, you win nine in a row, mate. Yeah, we'll see you next year. Okay, interesting. Right. Disagree. That's good.

It's good disagreements here. One of us is going to score a huge amount of points. Or maybe neither of us. Let's see. And we can finally go into the next one where it's contentious and it's not just potentially a ban to vote. Yeah. So yeah, good times.

I want you to go first, Tommy. Who is going to be world champion? I am going for Matt for Stauffin. I'm backing him again. And he is not the favour. people think he's going to be finished and as Matt loads up some slides again to check that he is

he has been like so underplayed by some people I think going into this new year that he's going to be terrible and even people that think like oh well Max he'll still win a couple of races or still do a good job there's no way he doesn't challenge for the championship in my opinion even last year when the car was third best it was such a close run thing between him, Norris and LeClaire

when the cars were a lot closer so he's got that consistency over a full season we've seen that with last year he's now won multiple world championships in so many different ways one time in a completely dominant car one when it was all stacked against him going into like the final races and he didn't look like you had the car to be able to take it over the line.

So that's why. I don't quite remember which. So I'm going for, so I'm going for Max. I'm backing Max still. Okay. Wow. I thought you might have gone a bit different,

but you've gone for Max for Stappen. That's very interesting. Okay. All right. So my driver's world champion is, sorry, Let me just much want to make sure that my voice is very clear, very crystal with my prediction here. My driver's world champion is Shaolokla.

Come on. What? Come on. Come on. You never knew that. I know. But look, I, this is the year. It has to be.

Jump to Supercutter of 2023, 2024. Look, come on. I'd never forgive myself if the year he became world champions the year I didn't predict him and God I've just laughed so while I've given myself a stitch So I think that this isn't the most delusional thing in the world Okay Charlea Claire has Lewis Hamilton alongside him which I think is going to do him a world of good I think Charle is going to go to a next level

of motivation pushing himself because he has Lewis Hamilton next to him That this is, not that Charles has to prove himself much, I would say. Of course, he has to win a world championship. And in many people's eyes, that is something that ticks off a box. But if Char was to beat Lewis Hamilton in his own backyard in the sense of coming to Ferrari, then that's going to look amazing for him. So I feel as though he will take himself to a new level this year. Ferrari have to deliver him a car. But if he does, I think Charles has absolutely every capability, every single skill set to win a world. championship. He does. And this might, you know, some people might think I'm delusional in that sense, but I do think he is world championship ready. He just needs a car that allows him to do that for the whole season, please, Ferrari. That would be great. We were even talking about him three, four races to go last year, still mathematically being, it being possible that he was, you know, still in the hunt. In the fight, yeah, which is mad. And that was with a car that realistically

wasn't the fastest across many weekends. So yeah, I've gone for it. I have to go for it. Will I be back once again in 2026 of the same prediction? Probably. But you'll have to wait and see.

Come on, Tommy. Tell me your thoughts. Like, come on. Am I, am I losing my mind? I mean, it's not an absolute delusional prediction. Like, this is the beauty of it now that we go into the season,

which feels like it's been far too long as Frank can't believe what I've just gone for Frank doesn't agree but we go into the new season and we genuinely don't know and that is the beauty of this season because you know normally we've had to go oh I'm going to go for something

different to Max but you kind of it would take a huge effort for it to be but now it's so close between them we saw how the season ended and how close it was between them or like four different drivers were so close in points in the kind of final six races, seven races.

So it's all to play for. So it's not an absolute wild prediction to go for Lecler. I genuinely think, you know, Lestappen, Lecler, Norris, if Hamilton improves his form, can he do it? With a new team.

Piaastri, if he can like, it is open. It's open and that is the brilliant thing about it. I can't wait. Tommy, I'm going to be insufferable if Charlotte-Clau wins Australia just so you know. But then again, I have learned for 2022 that having a 43-point lead on Max Verstappen is not enough. So, okay, let's go to our one crazy prediction for the season. Mine is, and again, I am so sorry if this season is a complete stinker.

With two races to go, at least four drivers will still be able to win the World Championship. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, look, come on. We've just said how unpredictable this season is. You've got McLaren, definitely the favour. It's Ferrari, not far behind. You have Max Verstappen, who I'm not discounting being able to win the world championship.

I think it's going to be stacked against him in the sense of the car performance, and we're going to have to see how far Max Verstappen is able to go. But I can see it. I can absolutely see it. So watch Maxisap and wrap it up with seven races to go. That's what I'll say. Men swear at the FAA and take it off. Yeah, take what off?

God's sake. Sorry, that's a patron book. I'm sorry. I'm getting confused. I hope you're right. I hope you get that point because, my God, would it be brilliant to see four drivers. I mean, when did that last happen? 2012, sorry, 2010, wasn't it?

That's a two races to go. So just let, you know, I didn't say with one race. So I think that was, wasn't it? No, two races. Yeah, in 2010, there was five going into the last two and four going into the last one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I've gone for a little bit less crazy with two races to go. It does feel like it's kind of got all the hallmarks of that season, though,

where, like, you don't, you can't decide between those top four teams, and that's going to create lots of different results. Like, it could change from track to track and then, yeah. And what I need as well, you know, seeing as the FIA is going, off on some very crazy tangents right now. I need them to announce triple points for the final race. Yeah. That would also be great for my...

That would help your prediction a lot. Thank you. It wouldn't help mine, though, because my one crazy prediction is Aston Martin score less than 50 points with the whole season. Okay. How many did they score last year? 92, 92, 94. so almost half as bad.

Yeah, I think Ashton Martin are going to struggle this year. I nearly went for them as my big flop, but I chose Ferrari instead. Yeah, cheers, mate. Thanks. Because this crazy prediction, yeah, I feel like points are going to be a struggle for after Martin, even with Alonzo at the wheel. I think they've got a lot of points early in the year last year. They're not going to have new easements.

magic for a while and even still, I don't think it's going to make that big difference until we go into future regulations and things. So I'm predicting Aston Martin to have a bit of a stinker, even though there's a lot of hype around them and people think that Alonzo could maybe get podiums again and things like that if Newe can work as magic, which I'd love to see, but I personally can't see it. Okay, interesting. I disagree. I think that Adrian Newey is going to do small bits. I'm not saying they're going to win the World Championship, as you know, it's Ferrari. But it'd be interesting. If they do go backwards, whether the hype train of signing Newey, because I imagine Lawrence Stroll, as much as he wants to embed Adrian Newey ready for 2026 and all that sort of stuff, they're going to want something this year in the sense of upgrades and the technical know-how that Adrian Newey has. But I guess he's going to be limited by the fact that the car that's already built is not his genius. So let's see. Let's see what he can do.

Let's go now to a new segment, which we'll be featuring in every single one of our prediction podcast moving forward. So every single Grand Prix prediction podcast, we are going to have this. And it is a Patreon prediction. Okay. So if you are part of our P1 Patreon, we love you very much if you are, we will both select one prediction from your suggestions and have it as our own. And we will score points with that. Yeah, and we can score points with it or not. Yeah, exactly. Please be good. So the patron prediction can't be, there will be a race. It has to be something that's reasonably bold.

That's what we've agreed. Yeah, like it's got to be fun in some senses, but also what we would choose. Correct? Correct. Okay, so Tommy, why don't you hit us with yours first? I've gone for Minerva's prediction. And it is Hamilton. beats Leclair across the season. Which I'm saying is a bold prediction

because if we go back to our teammate which finishes higher, Lecler got 75% of the vote. So it's not expected. I obviously went for Hamilton, so I'm going to again put all the eggs in the basket and go for that one. Good.

Thanks, mate. You're just relentless, aren't you? I thought it might be safe because you'd already kind of said it in the teammate battles pod. But no, clearly straight back with that locked in. Okay, my. P1 Patreon prediction is from Katie,

and it is multiple teammate collisions from the same team. So multiple was more than one, but doesn't have to be more than two. So collisions can be, I'm thinking Ghazli Ock on at Monaco, for example, that was definitely a collision. I'm thinking will-banging. I'm thinking just generally being in the slipstream,

that could be seen as a collision of some description. I would do everything in my power. Two Ferraris. Going for the world title. No, they're not going to crash. No, no, no, no, no. They're going to be locking in both titles, no, no issues whatsoever with Charlotte Claire beating out.

Lewis Hamilton, and I disagree with your P1 Patreon prediction. And I disagree with most things you've said in this whole podcast. That's great. Wow, look at us. That is good. Starting 2025 with disagreement. You know, you wanted it. You've now got it.

We now will never agree again. Okay, that is a fascinating set of predictions. I cannot wait to see how it unfolds. 2025, I think we need to just end the podcast saying that this is going to be the worst season we've ever seen in the last 15 years just to balance the power a little bit here, okay? Because I feel like we're getting a little bit over the top. But hopefully not, that would be great, wouldn't it?

Tommy, what are your final thoughts from this 2025 season prediction pod? Just bring on the racing because the unknown is just what is making this so good. And predictions is going to be a lot of fun this year, just going into each weekend and it being a bit more of a guessing game and I think the kind of development and the way some teams will back off and some teams will go forward. I think the season will naturally with a change of rules, it will keep potentially even changing again like we saw last year

and that makes predictions a hell of a lot more fun. So I cannot wait for it. Hell yeah. And my final thought is I hope you're enjoying the new thumbnail photos the new graphics on the videos and everything else in between that we're introducing this year. We're keeping it fresh. We're keeping it real, aren't me, Tommy?

So looking forward to a whole new season with you, mate, and for everybody who was watching and listening, sign me up. That's all I'm going to say. Thank you, everybody. We'll see you very soon. Let's love, take care, sweet dreams. Bye! Bye!

You thought we'd forgotten you, eh? Yeah, the Patreon's getting shoutouts in the main pod now. How excited are you? Huh? And if you're not a patron, what the hell are you doing? that's what I'm going to say. Lots more benefits, aren't we? We've reduced the Patreon sub-entry level.

We're keeping it as affordable as possible, aren't we, mate? Indeed. That's exciting. And if you aren't a Patreon, then you need to go and do some chores. So what we do actually is that Patriens don't actually have to do chores because they have P1 cleaners go around. And actually, that's a good point, that if you enjoy the extra waffle, after the the the the we've done our usual chore chat patron are going to get a little

exclusive 15 minutes of matt talking about his chores 15 minutes after every race review podcast we're going serious waffle we're finding out what tom is benched at the gym this week we're finding out you know how his hoovering's gone like it's going to be great and also other bits and bobs it's not just going to be chores whether there's some bits of news that haven't made the main pod and everything else. So yeah, we're really delivering for the Patreon this year. I hope you're looking forward to it. And yeah, as I say, go and go and take the bins out.

I don't think I've done that one for a while, if ever. So I think it's the green bins, isn't it? Maybe. I don't know. I don't have bins where I live, Tommy. Do you have bins? I do have bins, but I don't have a bin that I put out. I have like a communal bin that, like, loads of people.

Oh, I was going to say. I was like, where we live, like you just go to a place and then you put a bin. Yeah, no, I just. Thanks patrons. Samantha's a bit's been in a bin. out. I take my rubbish out, thank you very much. I just don't have my own singular bin. Anyway, what a conversation. What a combo. This and more over at P1, Patriot. And a lot more, I promise. Okay, bye. Bye. Goodbye.

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