P1 with Matt and Tommy - Our 2025 mid-season F1 Driver Ratings: P10 to P1
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Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy.
It's part two of two.
The top 10, the big dog, the source.
This is where you will find the serious conversations and discussions between myself and Tommy.
Will we disagree on everything?
Will we disagree on nothing?
We're going to have to find out.
Tommy, how excited you about this one?
You left episode one with Hamilton and 11th.
What other barnstorming, world-shaking,
positions if you got for us. Well, we're about to find out because, yeah, looking
forward to diving into this top 10. Well, let's get into it then. 10th position, Tommy. Hit us.
I have gone for Esteban Ocon. He's got a 6.6 average grade for the year. And of course,
yeah, this is probably one of those that maybe is the most disagreed because the fans put him in
14th. And he's in my top 10. I think Ocon has had
unfortunately for him he's had
kind of moments where
qualifying just hasn't gone right for him
and when he's not delivering the
performances he's he's kind of been
really poor
you know he's got he's got
kind of threes and fours
from me but he's also had
really sensational points finishes
China
Monaco
he got a 10
you look at even
even spa where he got an eight from me.
He obviously got that P5 in the sprint race.
And he's put that Hasse into places where it shouldn't be.
And he's been to finish fifth in a house this year when that midfield is so incredibly
tight.
And the top runners very, very, very, very, very rarely break down is sensational.
And the guy sat in a dry race.
In a dry race.
Yeah, absolutely.
And he, you know, he sat a top.
I know it's by the skin of his.
teeth, but he sat in the top 10 in the championship.
And it's weird because I think that,
I think if you hadn't looked at the championship table all year
and you told someone Ockon's 10th, you'd be like, what?
Ocon's ahead of, you know, Alonzo and Hadjar and Gassley and stuff.
I think it would probably surprise a few people.
But he is there and, yeah, he's delivered some great performances this year.
My first grading of today, P-10, is Isaac Hadger with a 6.5 out of
10. So, Hadjar, wow. Did we expect him, did I expect him to be in my top 10 after Australia?
Absolutely not. I thought this could be potentially a difficult season for him. But my God,
the way that he bounced back from that is absolutely sensational. Not just immediately, right?
He had a 7 out of 10 from me in China. He had a 10 out of 10 in Japan. I also gave him a 10 in Monaco as
well, a 9 in Spain. Hadjar, although yet, again, recancy bias might come in.
and you look at the last few races and go,
it's not been exactly great, has it,
from Hadjar in the last few,
perhaps losing a little bit of that momentum that we saw
in that sort of Imala, Monaco, Spain stretch.
But still, I think Hadjar firmly deserves to be in the top 10,
considering he is a rookie,
and he is knocking on the door of,
you know, can I be rookie of the season?
You've got others quite close behind,
but again, I love the fact that we take into account
the entire season.
know some people are going, well, what about Bortoletto?
He's, he's kind of, but right now, clearly, with the average grade, Hajar still edges out.
But then again, you think about the grades and the fact that car performance comes into it as well.
And Bortoleto didn't really have the car the entire year, whereas that V-car, we're very convinced is actually quite a good car, aren't we, Tommy?
So, but still, Hajar, very good season so far, and I hope he continues that way.
The fans also gave it to Hajar, P-10, 6-P.
point four out of 10.
In ninth position, my average grade, 6.6 out of 10 goes to Lewis Hamilton.
So I've been slightly kinder on Hamilton by a whopping 0.1 compared to Tommy.
Tommy gave him a 6.5, but wow, was an 11th.
And 2 positions, yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, that just shows you how close it is.
I was about saying this midfield Ferrari, no, they are not a midfield car.
I will not say that live on this podcast.
Hamilton's season,
I was kind of concerned at the start of the year,
especially after the China sprint.
I was like,
is Hamilton going to,
am I in trouble?
Is Chowlerclair going to get beaten more times than I expected this season?
But it's not been the case.
It really hasn't.
Ferrari, of course,
haven't had a consistently front-running car.
I will admit that.
It has had moments, for sure.
We've seen that with LeClair.
I think you said, was it, five podiums for LeClerer?
The fact that I have not given one singular 10 out of 10 to Lewis Hamilton, I think, tells you all you need to know about the season he's had with Ferrari.
I firmly expected to be giving him multiple 10 out of tens because it's Lewis Hamilton.
I thought, I said with my chest coming into this season that Ferrari are undoubtedly going to win the Constructors' Championship.
McLeod have wrapped it up with 10 races to go pretty much.
So it's been tough.
It's been horrible, obviously, to see him in those post-race, post-quality interviews of him beating himself up.
But it hasn't been the season that we expect from Hamilton.
It hasn't been good enough.
And that's why he's down in ninth.
Yeah, it's sad reading, 6.6 out of 10.
So P9 for me is Isaac Hadjar with 6.8.
Yeah, he's a driver that, I think, had so much hype around him at the start of the season and rightly so.
hit the ground running as a rookie
minus that first race, which as you said
was an absolutely
that is a moment that
could have easily just killed his whole
career in one race and the fact that he
bounced back from it and
was delivering a 10 out of 10 performance
within the next
two races.
Having said that, the
last few races as Lawson's
kind of got up to speed, we've maybe
not seen as brilliant.
performances from him in a car and maybe it's just that the car's not as the others are kind of
closing that gap because I do think V-Cab started the year with a fantastic car. I remember
Hajar and Yuki putting it, I think it was China, you know, unbelievable results in qualifying
and we were having this conversation of saying they should be getting more points with this
car and they weren't. But Hadjar still quite rightly I think at this stage of the season,
whether it would be the case by the end of the season
is the rookie of the season so far
based on those entire 14 races
and the average
because he just had that fantastic start to the season
and did a really good job
and yeah you wouldn't bet against
him potentially even being in that Red Bull
next season and thankfully for him
you know he's not been so good
that they decided to put him in mid-season
and kill his career.
Thankfully not.
The fans gave ninth position to Fernando Alonzo with a 6.6 out of 10.
P8, Tommy.
P8 for me is Fernando Alonzo with a 7.1 out of 10.
And what interesting reading that Fernando Alonzo is, yeah,
ninth from the fans, eighth from me.
And you look at where his teammate is 19th from the fans, 18th from me.
And they are on identical points.
And it just shows you the season they've had Alonzo, of course,
spent that first half of the year,
I think very unlucky and the results weren't telling you
what he was actually doing because he was ahead of stroll
in some of those kind of chaotic races
and either had collisions and things like that.
Got taken up by Lawson in Miami from what I remember.
But the kind of last few races, of course,
when the Aston has been there
delivered a fantastic performance
and Hungary was absolutely one of those
10 out of 10 performance
the car was working
and Alonzo even at 44 years of age
has just delivered
everything that it could have got out of it
and more
so yeah it's been a good season from Alonzo
even if the points haven't
kind of told the whole story
and now they've bagged all that lovely
wind tunnel time for Adrian Newee. Maybe they'll kick on now and start scoring points.
Well, they haven't bagged it yet, mate. They're scoring a lot of points. Well, there's a certain bit,
isn't there? Like, where there's a cutoff and I think they've already hit one point. When is the cutoff?
I think it's already been hit by one point. Like a certain percentage of it, I believe so.
Oh, right. Maybe it's a master plan. Maybe it is. Now they're, now they're unleashing the beast.
In P8 for me, Fernando Alonzo, with a 7.1 out of 10, exactly the same. Am I surprised to see this yes, a
little bit. Again, I think it's because you look at the picture of the table, 26 points for both
Alonzo and Stroll, and Stroll is 19th from the fans, as you mentioned, 18th for you and 17th for me.
So, yeah, but then it, the, the, the Drivers' Championship table only tells you a very,
very basic picture of what's gone on. And Alonzo could easily have double that, that points,
if not more, to be honest with you. Just doing their best, weren't they, to try and make your
50 points or less
but then just put a whopping amount of points on the board
in Hungary but yeah
the fact that Alonzo is still performing at this level
it's obviously a bit frustrating
to not see him further towards the front
because we all want to see it
I think it's when he had those
moments where he was scoring lots of podiums
I think it was great to watch
but still he is performing
and I don't think there's any concerns
just yet that he's losing it.
Although that was a topic of conversation
in the first few races, I recall.
It was, yeah.
Stroll had like 20 points on the board
from his weather masterclasses.
And I also say it teased you.
No, yeah, he had nothing.
So a better runner form for the last few.
The fans in P8, Holkenberg,
with a 6.8 out of 10.
Seventh position,
I have got Niko Holcomberg
with a 7.3.3.
three out of 10, a whopping half a point clear of what the fans have given Nikah Holkenberg.
And I think that mine is better than yours.
Because I don't know how you can give him anything less than at least a seven out of 10 across the whole season.
He has been phenomenal.
If anything, I'd maybe put him even one higher.
But Hulk, of course, he's had a standout performance in Australia at the beginning of the season in Spain.
And then, of course, got an 11 out of 10 in Silverstone for score.
that phenomenal podium.
Yes, he has had a couple of bad races in the last two because I flopped him.
And it's hard to go against the flop curse these days because it's well and truly back.
So to be fair, without those two fives, he probably would have been sixth for me in my average
grade.
I won't say who my sixth place is.
But Holkenberg can be very happy with his season.
I am very happy to see it and he got a podium.
so really he should be getting a 10 out of 10 just unlimited
like just doesn't matter if he gets a 4
it's still a 10 out of 10 for the season
so in p 7 it's for me as well
Holkenberg 7.2
his performance of course
the 11 out of 10 in Silverstone
finally got that podium which was the most
unfair statistic in the history of Formula 1 probably
that Nico Alkenberg didn't have a podium
when you think of all other drivers that have had
podiums you know he's so
certainly not been worse than them throughout his career. He has had moments to maybe give a few
negatives wise maybe a little bit further down than some people who maybe were thinking, oh, you know,
let's put him really high up. Portoletto in recent races has kind of smashed him in qualifying,
has to be said, in the last couple of races. And Holcombberg hasn't been able to deliver in the races.
but the run he had between Spain and Silverstone.
He got a 10 in Spain, a 10 in Canada, a 9 in Austria,
and then 11 out of 10 in Silverstone,
because of course him finally getting that podium.
And yeah, we said it that both of us agreed.
I obviously agreed even more because I put him dead last in the championship,
but thought that it might even be no points for Salba based on how bad there
their season had been, let's not forget,
you know, Valtrey Bottas was like
22nd or 23rd in the championship last year and didn't score a point.
And he's a race-winning driver.
So Holkenberg is ninth in the championship.
Crazy to think, I mean, I'm looking at this thing
where it says podiums as well.
And, you know, he's got a podium
and Lewis Hamilton doesn't.
Like, imagine saying that 14 races in is absolutely
insane.
And yeah, Holcombberg.
And it's between those two.
wasn't it at Silverstone as well
to get that podium.
Madness.
Speaking of Hamilton
in seventh place
for the fans,
Lewis Hamilton
with a 6.9
average grade
out of 10.
0.3 clear of me
and 0.4 clear of Tommy.
So the fans
reckon seventh position
for Hamilton.
P6, Tommy.
P6
is Alex Halburn.
7.4.
A big surprise
has to be said.
thought that Carlos Sainz, there was all this talk wasn't there about.
Alex Alburn has been brilliant in Williams in recent years,
but his teammates have arguably been some of the worst drivers
that we've seen in the last few years in Formula One in Logan Sargent and Nicholas
Latifi.
And Albin, you thought, how is he going to actually stack up against a great teammate like
Carlos Sites?
And he has been absolutely fantastic.
it. You know, he's 10 points off Antonelli and seventh in the championship in a Williams.
He's had some incredible moments. He's been very consistently good. It's not like he's just had
like certain drivers, you know, not to take anything away from them, but, you know, like a Holkenberg
or whatever where he's had these huge highs and bagged loads of points. I think Albin has been
consistently very good this season. So yeah, Alex,
a great, a great season from him and proving a lot of, a lot of people wrong. So, yeah,
good on. Including us. Including us. Yeah. And up in six. I think this, this is the,
has to be one of the biggest surprises for me, I think, this season. My sixth place is also Alex
Album with a 7.6 out of 10 average grade. When you look at the points scores this year, he's
had nine point score, point scoring moments. He had three retirements in a row in Spain, Canada,
and Austria, and yet still sits very comfortably eighth in the championship. Yeah, we came into
the season thinking Carlos would beat Alex Albon, just purely because of Carlos' record. And we thought
he was very unfairly, of course, dismissed from Ferrari. And we thought he'd come with a certain
tenacity to the team. And Albon has responded incredibly well. And I am, yeah, I'm not surprised
to see him sixth after seeing the season that he's put down.
54 points in the championship.
His teammate Carlos, of course, we have mentioned his bad luck at times.
He's down in 16th with 16 points, but he could easily have a lot more.
But Albon, we're not saying what ifs as much with him, and he's put down a phenomenal season,
and let's see if he stays in sixth place come the end of the year.
The fans also agree they've gone for Alex Albon with a 7.4 out of 10.
We now head to the top five.
My fifth position is George Russell.
with a 7.8 out of 10 average grade.
George Russell, currently fourth in the championship,
172 points to his name.
And there's a lot of nines, a lot of tens,
that I've given George Russell this year.
Australia, China, Bahrain.
Then, you know, he went five races without me giving him a nine,
and then we get to Canada with, of course,
that 10 for that amazing victory.
Hungary, a nine as well.
Yeah, Russell, again, this is kind of like a topic
of conversation similar to Hasse of having to shift our perceptions of where team performances are,
Mercedes are exactly the same. They have had moments where they are a minute off the lead,
absolutely nowhere, and then they're winning in places like Canada. It's, again, quite
difficult to shift the mindset of exactly when Russell is putting down nines and tens,
because sometimes he will finish fifth, finish fourth, so far off the lead, but that is all he could do.
But yet, still top five for Russell very close when I'm looking at these averages.
I'm talking 0.1.2 of a grade between him being fifth and on the podium for my average grades.
But still a great season for Russell and just love spawning in great positions.
Fifth for me is Charleclair with a 7.6 out of 10.
As Matt shaking his head.
Yeah, Leclair's been an interesting, an interesting,
one. I mean, I'll say it now. He's very close to
the kind of next couple of drivers and he's been
a hard one to place because of course
he has dominated his teammate, which of course
is no mean feat because it's Lewis Hamilton that he's
against. There have been times where I've kind of thought
I know that the Ferrari isn't as quick as it
has kind of been in the past and
that will be of course really frustrating for a driver.
But there were moments of the
season where I kind of thought,
Charles needs to kind of prove more of why he is like this really highly rated driver.
And that is exactly what he's done in the last couple of races and a few more throughout
the season as well.
And yeah, I think that is the tale of Lecler's season where there have been those races where
you feel like Leclair's got absolutely everything out of it.
And I know we get a lot of stick and I think it's completely unfair that when we can, when we
give Leclair a really high grade for when he's got pole position and finished fourth or fifth.
But it's because he's not in a car that can win the race and he shouldn't be penalised because
he's stuck it on pole position with a brilliant qualifying lap.
And yeah, Lecler, the last few races in particular, is kind of shown what he could do if Ferrari
finally deliver a decent car that could actually challenge for the World Championship.
And when will that be, Tommy?
that is the question.
The fans in fifth place,
Max Vestappen,
with a 7.5 average grade.
If I speak.
Tommy is about to pop off.
In fourth, let's go.
P4, for me,
is Lando Norris,
with a 7.8 out of 10.
Lando Norris
has been one of the most difficult drivers
to grade this season.
And he's also been a difficult one to place.
Now, we'll start with the positives first,
that you're not nine points off the championship lead by having an awful season.
I have seen a few other kind of ratings and things of people rating Landon Norris' season
and putting him way down the bottom and saying he's been absolutely useless.
And I think that's absolutely ridiculous, to be honest.
If Piastri had had like three mechanical failures and, yeah, Norris was this close to him,
you'd kind of understand.
But you don't, you don't, you're not nine points off the championship lead by being terrible.
And don't get me wrong, Norris has had some really poor moments.
And he's made a hard work of it a lot of the time in some of the races.
Canada obviously being the lowest point where he got a one out of ten, brings his average grade right down.
other races where
it's not gone his way
Bahrain, Saudi, crashing qualifying
and there's been those discussions
hasn't there where
you know has he got what it takes last year
he was up against the Stappen
arguably should have won the championship
and now he's gone into this season
and Piastri's looked really good and you think is he throwing it
away again but he's still
winning races he's won five races to
Piastri six and he's
very close to the championship
leadership lead and he's very much still in it and it feels too close to call. So I don't think
he's had as bad of a season as some people think. But for me, obviously, this is what I think
because that's where he is on average. But I think four is about right. But I couldn't put him
any lower than that, certainly. My fourth position, Charlotte Clare. 7.9 out of 10.
I will just mention right now that third and second have exactly the same grade as Charlerc.
So it tells you everything you need to know about how close it is with some of these top drivers.
Charlotte Clare has had, I think, a great season still.
He does.
He just consistently puts down great performances.
I gave him a 10 in Saudi, a 10 in Monaco, and he's had loads of nines.
Japan, Bahrain.
He's had a nine in Spain, Austria, Belgium and Hungary.
It's just, he's not able to win races because it's, that, it's, it's impossible.
The McLaren is, is the fastest car, um, debatably by how much, but I think still consistently
that the baseline benchmark, uh, car to beat. So Leclair's, you know, five podiums is, is a, is a, is a,
great achievement when you look at the struggles of a seven time world champion on the other side
of the garage. It just, I think it again proves that Leclair is a phenomenal driver that will win a
World Championship when he has a season that the car can fight for wins consistently.
Yes, we've had 2022.
Yes, there were some mistakes in there.
But he also showed that he can win lights to flag quite easily as well.
So a great season for LeClaire.
And yeah, if we have more of this consistency,
the clerk could easily finish second, I think, in these average grades for me.
As I say, very close indeed with the next two.
The fans, they agree with me.
Charlotte Claire 7.8 out of 10.
We now get to the podium of the mid-season driver ratings,
which I know all the Formula One drivers are very excited about.
In third position, Lando Norris, with a 7.9 out of 10
and has more tens than Charlotte Clare,
hence why he has been put above him.
Complete agreement with you, Tommy.
Yes, there have been moments where we have criticized
Lando Norris's performances,
and rightly so.
He is a driver that makes mistakes,
and therefore we are going to downgrade him from a 10
if it's deemed acceptable
because he's not performed fully throughout a whole weekend.
And I think as well, coming into this season,
Lando, in comparison to Oscar,
Lando had a lot more expectation on his shoulders.
If the McLaren is the fastest car,
Lando Norris should win the world championship.
You look at last season,
Lando scored a lot more points than Oscar
because Oscar's in his second season.
You come into this year, he has that expectation.
from everybody.
And he has not had a horrendous season.
He is still in the hunt for the world championship
and has a very good chance of winning it.
He's won three of the last four.
And yeah, I'm again,
in complete agreement with you, Tommy,
that anybody that says that he's had a shocking season
just hasn't no idea about Formula One.
He has had moments that has caused him to be third
rather than second or first in my average grades.
But he can still win the World Championship.
And to be honest with you,
I don't think you'll care about the grades we've given him
if he does walk away with the title.
So yeah, I'm actually not surprised to see him in third
and let's see if he stays there.
If he goes any lower than third,
he's probably not won the World Championship
when we reflect it at the end of the year.
P3 for me is George Russell with an 8.0.
I think George Russell has had a consistently great season,
particularly at the start of the season,
9s, 8s, 10s, across the board.
his kind of lowest result was a five silverstone where you kind of thought, you know,
maybe someone like, he took that ridiculous gamble at the start when he was running forth
to try the kind of hero strategy, didn't work out for him, of course, and then it all kind of fell
apart from there. But yeah, even with the Mercedes kind of flip-floppy season,
he's kind of been consistently good. And of, of course,
the highest moment because we mentioned about how difficult it is to beat a McLaren this year
because they're so good is the race victory that he got in Canada was a fantastic result.
And it's amazing to think that up until recently he was a driver that looked like he might be
out of a race seat when he's been having one of his best, if not his best seasons so far.
fully agree the fans in third place have also gone for george russell with a 7.8 out of 10 has more tens than charles leclair second position tommy second position is max for stepan with 8.1 so very disagree disagreeing from the fans there who's put him in fifth of course um i actually think if i was to grade these myself i would find it very difficult to pick
between Max Verstapp and George Russell.
This is just my personal opinion.
For me, I think Max has had higher highs.
George Russell has maybe been consistently good.
I think the start of the season,
Max was absolutely phenomenal in particular
and showed why he is considered by most people
to be the best driver in the sport.
He should never have finished even second
in the Australian Grand Prix,
which he did.
and a win against that McLaren should have been like nearly impossible in a normal conditions
but he did in in Japan and again in Imola which I still think that that turn one move
is one of the most epic things we've seen in recent years but then you look at the low points
and it really kind of unraveled after after Spain when he had that collision with George
Russell where he saw red and hit the side of the side of the side of the same thing.
of George Russell
had that massive blow-up and
disagreement with his team of them
saying you should let him through and then he decided
not to and yeah
from then on yeah he had
he's kind of
from there you kind of thought maybe
there's a very very
very small percentage of the McLaren
start to collide and crash into each other
that he could still take the title
from there on it just kind of completely
fell apart
and now particularly the last race in
Hungary we saw that even
Max couldn't
do anything to kind of
tame that that red bull that seems to be
slipping further and further
down the pecking order
but when he's on form
he still manages to get consistent
podiums and the fact that he's got two wins
this year and four poles I believe
is very impressive
yeah how many poles has he got
One, two, three, four.
Yeah, you are correct.
You are a Max Verstappen fan boy.
In second place, I have also got Max Verstappen with a 7.9 out of 10,
so slightly less delusional than Tommy.
He has more nines than Norris,
hence why he's been placed in second rather than third.
Of course, that zero that I gave him in Spain,
that's, he would be slightly clearer of the two that I have behind of Norris and of Leclair.
And also Russell, of course, point one further back than that.
just again showcasing just how second to fifth of yours point one is point one difference it's hard
to call these these these all these drivers isn't it it is yeah it is so close that's why i love
reflecting in it i really love to see how they stack up uh once we've given so many washed grades
um so yeah so vassappan i think you you you put it perfectly in the fact that he's had loads of
massive highs he scored three tens uh from me how many tens of you given him three as well actually so
You were thinking I was giving him seven then, didn't you?
Yeah, I literally thought that the whole thing would just say 10, to be honest with you.
But I mean, in the first one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight races.
So before Spain, he hadn't scored any lower than an eight from me, which just tells you exactly why he is second in my rankings.
I hope he can take it to the, to the McLaren's for the rest of the season.
We love to see Max mixing it with them, not finishing ninth.
So, yeah, let's see where that rebel goes.
but I don't hold too much hope for the performance of that car
because I think Red Bull have gone,
yeah, that car's in the mud now.
We're going to go to 26 and beyond,
which I wouldn't blame them for because they are nowhere near,
yeah, anything really now.
So second for me for Max Verstappen,
the fans, Lando Norris,
with an 8.3 out of 10.
So quite a lot higher than what myself, 7.9, Tommy, 7.8 for Norris.
So interesting there.
And in first position, clearly an agreement.
from all three of us, Oscar Piastri is my first position with an 8.9 out of 10.
So Oscar came into this season, his third Formula One season, may I remind everybody,
with less expectation. We go back to my Lando Norris point. I think Lando came into this season.
If McLaren had the best car should win the championship. Oscar, of course, showed moments of
brilliance in 2024, but didn't have that consistency, the understanding of the tires,
the sort of yeah not falling away in races was something that oscar did struggle with a little bit
he's turned that around insanely well this year he's delivered ice cold performances again i think
that's why he's got an 8.9 we don't see those crashes in qualifying or just random mistakes that we
go are he's left a little bit on the table and and it just showed you know he's he's a whole
one point clear of anybody else in my rankings with that 8.9
He's had one, two, three, four, five, six ten out of tens from me this year.
And fully deserving of them, to be honest with you.
He's leading the championship.
And this is where again, you know, we try with our driver ratings.
You know, we try and analyze the performances, but we also take into account where drivers are in their career.
Some people do.
Some people don't.
I do because I don't think the Bortoletto, a performance from Bortoletto should be the same as Hamilton.
When you factor in their experience and Piastri is still on paper.
more towards the inexperienced side
within being only three seasons in Formula One.
That's why he's got such a high grade from me.
That's why he's leading the World Championship.
Congratulations, Oscar Piastri.
Pia.
Of course, yeah, Piastri for me as well.
8.6.
We mentioned about how close,
maybe you could argue,
second to fifth is with these drivers.
This one is no kind of contest for me at all
that it's Oscar Piastri,
the driver of the season so far.
The fact that he's...
Yeah, you, I'm looking at your grades right now, Tom.
you've not given him at any point lower than a night.
Yeah, exactly.
He's been so consistently brilliant,
which is something we couldn't say last year.
You know, the talk of Norris winning the championship,
it was all kind of,
all the talk going into this season was,
can Norris win the championship?
Because are Red Bull going to keep falling off?
And there were some people out there, of course,
that thought Piastri might be able to do it.
But last year, Piastri had incredible highs where he showed brilliance and we all thought, wow, like this guy is a real special talent, but it didn't have the consistency.
So for his first time, challenging for a world title to be this consistent is nothing short of sensational.
He has been so good this year.
The only blips in his whole campaign really have been Australia, which in the wet, very unlucky to slide.
off the road, of course, in those tricky conditions.
And Silverstone, when he hit the brakes too hard behind a safety car and still finish
the race in second and a race that he was going to comfortably win, he has looked so, so good
this year.
Every race, I genuinely think every race almost, it looks like he could potentially win
the Grand Prix.
You kind of don't feel this year that there's been really many races.
Maybe Canada.
But even then he was kind of, yeah, Canada maybe the only exception to that rule.
And that's a crazy thing.
And I know they've had a great car.
Monaco.
A great car.
Can't have to take that, mate.
Yeah, well, yeah, exactly.
But he's been in the hunt for every race.
And he's been more consistent than his teammate.
And, yeah, it doesn't, for all the talk of, like,
oh, Norris has made too many mistakes, or Vestappen doesn't have the car now,
or Ferrari aren't there,
I don't think there's been enough praise of just how good Piastri has been
in only his third season,
because you look at a rookie now, say like Kimi Antonelli,
and you said, oh, in two seasons,
it's just going to be like completely like, not dominating,
but being great, you'd be like, wow, that's impressive.
And, yeah, I think Piastri's been so good that you almost forget
he was a rookie two years ago.
Exactly.
The fans, they agree.
They've given Piastri a 9.0 out of 10 across the whole season.
The fans are loving Oscar Piastri and his performances.
How many tens of the fans given it?
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 as well.
Well, there you go.
That is our mid-season, kind of mid-season-ish.
F-1 driver ratings, done and dusted.
I love looking back at them.
I can't wait to look back on it again at the end of the season
when we've had 10 more races to fill out this table.
Thank you for everybody who gets involved and votes as well
because it helps us create these averages and things like that.
It helps create healthy discussion.
Tommy, what are your final thoughts?
I completely echo your thoughts and that I can't wait to see how this kind of pans out at the end of the season as well,
because it's always interesting when we take this mid-season gap.
And even in this kind of shortish window of 14 races of the season,
you still see drivers having like a tail of two halves, and it could be the same.
You know, some drivers might even fall off further.
some might have an amazing end to the season
and yeah, we'll look back on it
and see how much they'll change as well as
what the final order is. It's always interesting to
look back and go, oh, well, this driver was second in the rankings
but now he's sixth or whatever and how it changes.
So, yeah, bring on.
One thing I'm confident on is that Dewan
will keep a 3.7 out of 10.
I feel like that might not change.
Yeah, I mean, Colipinto has to really drop
to drop to P-21 if he keeps under-delivering.
There needs to be a serious amount of ones and twos for him to take 21st.
Okay, that is it.
Thank you, everybody.
We'll see you soon.
Have you enjoying the summer break?
Have you had lovely holidays or whatever you're doing or working or not working?
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We will see you soon for some more content.
We've got some good stuff.
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So look forward to that one.
See you soon.
Lots of love.
Bye.
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My chore. Our chore.
Is to comment on Spotify and YouTube of how much you love drive ratings.
Yeah, yeah. Can you just, can you just for one second delete that comment that you're about to write about Ocon's average grade?
And just say, you know what? I actually quite enjoy listening. I enjoy this. I disagree with you guys. I disagree with you guys.
But that's fine. We're allowed to disagree. Exactly. We are. That's the beauty.
Yeah, can we just outweigh the negative comments for once?
And that'd be lovely.
All right. Thanks, guys.
Goodbye.
Cheers.
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