P1 with Matt and Tommy - Our FIRST F1 DRIVER on P1! Esteban Ocon interview

Episode Date: April 26, 2023

Alpine’s Esteban Ocon joins us on the P1 podcast to talk Sprints, Spiderman, Estie’s besties, what it’s like being an F1 race winner and LOADS MORE!Follow us on socials! You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Twitch, YouTube and TikTok.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello everybody and welcome to the P1 podcast with myself Tommy and Esty Bestie. Oh wow. Straight. This is unbelievable. We were actually speaking the last time, well the first time we ever had a Formula One drive on our previous venture was you. And once again, P1 traditions. You again. Well, what an owner. It's an honour for us.

Thank you very much for coming to see me and I see you all kit it out as well. I've actually got more Alpine merch on than you do. Very true. I stole the t-shirt. Well, there you go. It's all yours, man. All yours. How are you, my friend?

I'm very good. Very good. Just came out the simulator just now. So I came to see you during lunch break. So, yeah, good to see you guys. No, it's amazing to see you as well. So you just come out the sim. You were saying, is it like going from a cinema to like daylight where you just like, you know,

you see lights and all of a sudden your eyes have to kind of adjust? Yeah, pretty much. Like when I came out, it's like for the first time I see the sun again, you know? So I'm like like this for like the first two things. three minutes and yeah it's it's important though I mean that's that's what we do now we can test so you know we need to do to do these things but yeah it's like hibernating in a cave a little bit for the whole day how often are you in the simulator every week a day or two really that's what we do okay and very long sessions yeah whole days it's like full test days yeah

from like nine to 12 from what two or three to six that's crazy that's crazy now I probably should have said in the intro that you are also an F1 race winner because we haven't seen you since that. Thank you, mate. That sounds good to say out loud. Does it sound good to hear? Yeah, sounds good. It's good, definitely. I mean, it's a beautiful memory, that's for sure. But, yeah, I mean, time has passed now and we'll look for things ahead, obviously, not from things behind. But when you come in in the factory and you see the trophy, you know, just standing there, that's pretty good. Yeah, that's mine. That's mine. Yes, that's mine. Yeah, I've done that. So right, let's talk a little bit about this break that we've been on.

We've been struggling quite a lot as F1 fans. Especially people that create content in the space. What do we talk about? How where has it been for you to have three races? You start to kind of build a little bit of momentum and then boom, one month of nothing. Yeah. Yeah, it's been training. And I can understand, you know, everybody that's been following us and seeing F1, you know, coming back and the hype that goes, you know, with it and suddenly stop, you know, like a summer shutdown.

But yeah, I've missed it as well. I've missed the Grand Prix racing. But it hasn't feel like a big break, you know, because we are still, you know, working on things. You know, it was not a shutdown at all. Like the engineers were flat out. So it has gone by quite quickly, I have to say. And yeah, I mean, it feels good because we are going to be pretty much five weekends in a row now.

So it's going to say that. It's going to be good for it. Exactly. You've waited a long time. but now the whole thing is coming. So that's going to be cool. Does it feel like, so you said it doesn't feel like the summer break for you.

I guess for us fans, it's felt like a summer break. But how is it different for a driver? I guess in the summer break, are you a bit more chilled out and enjoying it? Whereas in this, you're just kind of carrying on as if there were races? Yeah, exactly.

It's pretty much that. So, you know, during summer shutdown, you don't really talk to an engineer, you lead them, you know, having some holidays, having time to, relax here you know we were you know having meetings we were on the phone you know quite a lot I was still training like if I was in my winter training program trying to you know get back up and and trying to get as much energy as I can you know before it starts to drain in the next five weeks

so no it's been it's been a hell of over three weeks you know pushing flat out just to to be ready so it was very different to a summer shutdown yeah you don't just have time off it's still work it's still figure out the car. But it's good work, you know. Like, there's no work in Formula One that you can complain about. I mean, it's everything that we do is privilege and it's fun.

Absolutely, and it's the same for us. We love doing what we do, don't we? Absolutely. Yeah, there's no work here. So as we're recording this, we have the crazy finish in Melbourne. And next up, we have the sprint weekend in Baku. Don't talk to me about the finish in Melbourne.

Okay, yeah, we won't actually going to reflect on that. But the first fan question comes in from Erghis Madi. I've completely ruined that, I'm so sorry. What do you think about F1 trying to become a more entertaining show? And is this the way to pursue the sport or focus more on the racing side? Where do you sit on it? I think there's a happy between, you know, to have.

I think what we saw in Melbourne was definitely too extreme. Especially we were the ones that suffered, you know, about it. But in a way, it brings opportunities as well. I mean, if you take, you know, most podiums that were coming from mid-fifference, cars in the past couple years, they've come from these kind of opportunities. So, you know, it's a good thing. It can go either way, you know, good side or bad side. But I think, you know, my opinion, I saw something like a Lando court or something which says, you know, at 50% of the race, that should be a rolling start each time.

Probably that would be a good thing. You know, at some point, have the show in the first 50%. And then, you know, once the position are settled, probably, yeah, you keep on the first. with the race. I don't know what you guys think actually because you are the one looking at it. Do you think that's why it was so crazy because I guess one thing that you always get told and what you say is that you can't win at the

first corner but when there's only two laps to go you kind of can win it at the first corner that's why everyone goes from it. Yeah yeah but that's exactly the right phrase I think in that one you can win in the first corner and that's pretty much what happened and we've seen it in NASCAR as well

something happens similar where they freeze the race and they restarted it for you know one more lap or something and they all you know went off and they all crashed it will always happen in any categories in racing if you restart for just one lap yeah it's weird from a fan perspective

there was a bit of a mixed feeling at one one stage you're going well we've got a two-lap shootout this is going to be amazing but on the other side you go is this is this what Formula One actually is or are we catering now more towards you know just entertainment dopamine always action you know with the sprint race weekends

is this the way Formula One's going? It seems that way. One question I did actually want to ask. We tried now, I think that was the good thing. At least we tried. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I wonder how far Formula One will go until it's like, no, this is too much. The question I was going to ask is, why was there so much chaos in the end of that race?

Because it seemed like everybody had no grip. It was almost like it had been raining or something. It was mad. Yeah, I think the reason was that even though most cars were on soft tires, which was actually a good thing because it would have been even worse. if we were not. You know, the lap that we did, the warm-up lap, it was really slow because there was a safety guy in front.

So we couldn't really warm up the tires. And it's a track where, you know, people were struggling to warm them up already. In quality, we are doing multiple laps and the time we're still dropping. So I think that was why. Basically, we arrived in the first corner, break. There's a lot of dirty air. Cars everywhere, sun in the face.

You break, nothing happens. Everyone goes straight. Yeah, it was pretty, pretty cool. chaotic. But yeah, there was no grip, at least for me in the first one and a half corners. So yeah, F1 seems to be changing a lot at the moment. And Justin's world for you has asked, if you could add any custom rule to F1, what would it be and why? Same car for everybody. That would be my rule. Yeah? Yeah. Do you think, genuinely think that Formula One as a

spec series would actually work? I think, you know, it's, I love the, the, the, tech side of things. I think Formula One always has been, you know, the, I don't know if you say that in English laboratory for any technology that goes into cars. So I love that and I'm a big fan of that. But is it not true that what makes the sport is actually, you know, the human inside and the human... It's you. It's you. Well, I don't know. I think if we had, you know, the same weapon to fight altogether, it would be, you know, more down to the sport. itself more than the machinery side of things and I think they would still be you know an engineering and the best team and and still the the engineering side of

things would be interesting so you still got good teams doing like F2 and exactly better teams but the cars are more even because I think you're right the fans I'm sure this is the same for the drivers I think if it got implemented there'd be so much outrage over it but then as soon as the first race comes on and a team isn't two seconds clear of the field everyone would love it exactly We've got a 20-car battle for the league. Actually, this is quite nice, isn't it? Although, to be fair, like, Formula One, as we kind of mentioned,

is going down this route of entertainment, entertainment. Why not just on a Friday? Everyone has a few points up for grabs, and it is a spec car that everyone just jumps into. You still have the Formula One race on the Sunday. No problem. So you want to do another race on Friday. Let's have a little spec series or carting.

A little try. Yeah, exactly. I honestly think now with the level there is, you know, throughout the field, you can speak. split the whole grid by two tenths from P1 to last if you put the same car to everyone two tens. I think that's how mad it would be honestly. I want that now.

Yeah. There we go, let's vote. Let's vote everyone. Let's make a petition sign the letter. If we get 100,000 signatures, we all do. It has to go to Parliament. 100,000 likes on this video. Yeah, we might struggle on that one.

But yeah, that's really cool. Next question comes in from the Castaway DC. What era of Formula One would you have loved to have raced in? I think we have a little bit of millions of things here. Yeah, and if I would have been racing for Enstone at the time, it would have been quite good also. Yeah, I mean, this, you know, the era 2005, four, six, you know, those were, I think, the golden ones,

looking at technologies and, you know, the tire war. And it's interesting, again, just to have lived you know that one once the car was so light the the sound was amazing I mean Fernando drove that kind Abu Dhabi when he returned and yeah that was that was awesome so yeah I didn't drive

you know one of those cars yet would you hint you do you want nudge nudge I want to I want to I want to give it a go and and I fit just in case anyone's watching this that has the keys exactly because that was quite a shocking thing for us when we

came in even though you know about it but we've got the the Alpine show cars here as well and you look at that car yeah and you look at those cars and my first thought was no wonder you can't ever take at Monaco now yeah just massive how big it is yeah and almost feels like double the side yeah yeah but now they look tiny yeah but would you prefer do you think is it more because I think they look faster like when Fernando did that lap it was obviously slower than what you guys are doing but it looked quicker because the cars like darting around But if you remember, it didn't have slick tires.

Yeah. Put slick tires on that back then. That would be something else, I think. Yeah, that would be something else. So, nice. I mean, it's a different era. You have to evolve with the time. You know, the engines are now producing, you know, more power, more torque.

There's much more safety, you know, on board. So all of these is obviously the boring stuff. But that's why, you know, the cars have become heavier. And now it's better to race as well. There was more show. Back then, there was not much overtakes. You know, it was all in the pit stops. As much as everyone was like, how the glory days.

Exactly. It was great to drive, I think, on one lap. But to be racing, I would definitely choose now. It was a lot more physical, wasn't it back then as well? You'd see the drivers hobbling up onto the podium, which is kind of what we want to see now, whereas you feel like Formula One at this stage is very much more managing your tires. How often in a race would you say you're pushing 100% flat out?

There are some races where you do so. But back then, yeah, every race. they were pushing flat out because there was no degradation and they were just going on for the fastest lap time every lap. I think Abu Dhabi is probably one where you push flat out the whole race because the track cools down. And if you don't push actually flat out, the tires cool down and you are too slow. And the track where there is low deck, I think that's where we are flat out. Probably Australia. That was one which was quite physical. Yeah, it was flat out from start to finish.

But yeah, otherwise if you go to Bahrain, if you go to Bahrain, if you go. go to all this place is difficult because yeah you just drop off so much what does Baku what do you think for Baku in terms of tar where could be it could be a flat-out race and anyway we're not going to have a choice because it's the sprint and yeah it's also new tarmac so there's a good chance that this is going to be the way nice I've got a question from selina williamson going forward a bit and it says would you still want to work in f1 after you finish your career as a driver could you see like a Ocon racing team or something like that. Why not?

Why not? Yeah, I actually never thought about this, but I always thought about racing something, you know, that's always, that was always my state of mind. Maybe combining it, you know,

racing it with something else. Maybe that could be something, but yeah, I'm not at that stage yet. Yeah, you're not exactly looking ahead to after Formula One. But I suppose you're saying, like, racing in other things,

what would be that next step, do you think, or something that you, you know, dream. Yeah. Well, I was at the French Championship of Raleigh this weekend, and this is something I would definitely give it a go.

I've tried also the WRRX of Pettersolberg in Lapland. That was also a hell of an experience. I mean, the thing was pulling like crazy. It was so powerful. It was unbelievable on ice. So trying it on like dirt or tarmac. That would be quite something. So yeah, I've always liked, you know, Rallycross.

rally so that's definitely something I will give a go then there are always you know the mythical races you know Le Mans Indica you know Indianapolis we'll see but definitely yeah rally that would be one thing I want to try okay going sideways that's what you want to do exactly I love it I like when there is smoke and when you go sideways yeah I can't wait to see that although I'm sure you've got a lot of time left in Formula One next question from tweets by Rowan What is your biggest dream outside of Formula One in racing? Is there anything you want to achieve?

Yeah, I mean, there was always, you know, things I wanted to achieve, like, you know, helping my parents to have an easier life, a more chill life. It was always in my head, you know, that I wanted to succeed to, you know, give them an easier time for everything that they've done and for, you know, my dad has been working flat out. 24-7 you know doing you know the job of 10 people basically for his all lives and and I wanted to you know help them not to have that for from for too long and I'm starting to being able to achieve that so I'm you know happy

in a way and that was always my main priority and I want to do that to the close one as well to you know my close family and my close friends around me trying to help them to achieve their dream or to, you know, be happy or happier in life. That's really wholesome. We love it. Speaking of happy, Lily May not has asked, where is your happy place? Where's my happy place? I don't think there is a happy place.

I think there is a happy entourage. You know, if you are surrounded by the right persons, I think you can be anywhere, really. but at the moment obviously that's always Normandy for me. It's always, you know, coming back to my roots, I have my friends, I have my family there. And yeah, we do cool stuff, things that I enjoy. Would you not say being in the F1 cars? Probably the closest place to a happy place.

That's the happiest place after my family, that's for sure. But yeah, that's where I feel the most, you know, comfortable. Everything feels normal. You know, once I sit in there, I feel good. Yeah, so I guess at what point in the weekend is your emotions, I suppose, the highest in terms of, is it that getting in the car for the first time before free practice, one, that you go, I'm back, and then rolling out the pits or is it into qualifying or the race, when would you say your happiest moment in the weekend? I think the happiest moment is when you release the pit limit for the first time, maybe in the year,

you know, once you've been waiting for so long, you release the pit limit, you feel that power again. Yeah, that's something else, you know. That's something you would never feel in something other than an F1 car. But then I would say the most adrenaline is probably just before qualifying. You know, when you're in the garage, when the engineer is talking to you about things, the plan, those are the most crucial moments because the race, you know, you do the start, you know, like there's going to be some fighting, but the positions are settled pretty much. Everything can happen in qualifying.

So that's very different. And you know you're going to go the fastest. Exactly, exactly. So it's all in. Oh, it's me. It is me. Cool. Good. Let's cut that. Let's cut that. Now, I probably should have asked this at the start before I introduced you as it, but this is a very popular question by Victorine underscore GRD. What do you think of the nickname S.D.

Oh, wow. Please don't say you hate it. No, no. We might have to do a different intro. Honestly, I like it. I like it. I think it's cool. I'm not sure where it came from. I'm pretty sure it's on TikTok that it came from. I don't know with the actual origins. A lot of people say it was Katie Fairman, but I don't think she actually did.

I think it was just very much, yeah, one of those where it's a great nickname. Well, thank you. Well, a lot of people call me like that, so now I know. Do you get a lot of people? Because I've seen TikToks are going, whoa, Eddie Basie. No, I mean, the Melbourne Walk, it was insane. Like, Estimesty, Sdie Besty. It was everywhere.

I was like, oh, wow, you know. It's probably, yeah, the first time I heard it that much. But, yeah, I like it. This one's from... Zad B. If I win, if I win, I go, Esty Besty is P1? Oh, please. Yes, no, write that down.

We'll hold you to that. Yeah, this question is, who is Esty's bestie on the grid? That would be Mick and Lance. I mean, it's not a secret, but yeah, there's not the guys I get along well with. I found that really interesting that, obviously going back to the racing point days, but when you lost your seat too large,

Lance when like you know that whole takeover but you guys were like really close like sure yeah stuff so yeah I remember you you kind of like posting like that that Instagram's here and like at the end of the day this guy's like doing everything that I would to be in Formula 1 so yeah I thought that was quite interesting that you kind of how do you know Lance is it through Junior series and stuff yeah yeah it's been it's been in in go-couting you know that we met and we've always you know kept contact and we were doing a lot of different things, you know, outside, you know, Formula One training together, you know, and we get along super well, you know, together. So it's not, you know,

because he took my seat at the time that, you know, things were going to go wrong. There was nothing, you know, from his fault. That was the reason. You know, it's a lot of different backgrounds, business from managers from teams you know that went wrong but in a way it was always planned you know that this was going to be the case I was never supposed to stay you know at 4th India at the time so you know these things you know that people thought you know it's strange actually that they still get along it's because yeah it was not the reason was not that one I will never forget I will never forget the video yeah you have the blue bag over you and that's literally burned

into my brain. But obviously, you know, you're the comeback king. Yeah, but you know, at the time I was still, I was still not realizing that I was not going to race the following year. So, you know, I had my, my wash bag behind and I was like, oh, hey, hey, Matthew, all good. That was, that was an emotional time for me. I was just like, he's got a bag on his, you're here now. But, look, you're here now and things have changed since then.

We couldn't be more happy. And everything is okay. Exactly. Thank you very much, mate. For all right. Thank you. Next question comes in from Mick Sades AMGF1. We know who's a fan of.

Yeah, exactly. Esteban, how does it feel to be the king of TikTok? Oh, wow. That's a big statement. I'm very happy to have the crown. Thank you very much. Mick, is that his name? Mick Sades.

Mick Sades. Well, thank you very much. It's such a fun platform just to follow the trends. And there are so many cool things. I think just to interact with fans, it's just a new way of doing. it. Do you find yourself scrolling a lot, you know, at night when you're in bed or whatever? Yeah, you get lost in those scrolling, you know, and yeah, you keep scrolling and you look at the time,

oh, there's an hour gone. Where would that go? You know, I didn't see it coming. But yeah, I do end up. So you see all the Esty bestie TikToks, do you? Yes. Oh, we love it. Yeah, some more crazy questions. I've got one from F1 network, which is, Have you ever sneezed during a race? Oh, yeah. How is, like, do you worry? Sneeze, fart, everything. At the same time?

At the same time. And that's the TikTok clip. Yeah, exactly. I'm not going to give you much details, but yeah, I've sneezed. Have you ever sneezed? Because when you're driving and say like you come up to a roundabout and you sneeze and then you're like, oh, that's a really bad time to sneeze. If you ever sneeze like going into the castle section at Baku would be the worst time, right? No. It happened.

most of the time on the straight line so I'm quite happy I'm quite happy and quite lucky in that regards but yeah no there are some races where there's a lot of like pollen you know flying and and it can you know get quite you know itchy so yeah I guess as well we'd never really know because I guess your head naturally moves anyway on upshift and down shifts when you go like that to sneeze you just you wouldn't actually know if well I think you would see it yeah I can really spot and I really tell you okay there's no when you sneeze yeah exactly Amazing stuff.

Next question from C. Murray 90. Who is your favorite Spider-Man? Oh, difficult question. I think I have to go with the original, you know, Toby Maguire. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've spent so much hours, you know, watching on replay Spider-Man 1, 2 and 3 that, yeah, it will have to be Toby Maguire.

But I love also Tom Holland. I think he's doing awesome. and yeah I love the new movies you know but it's just because I grew up as a kid watching Spider-Man with Toby Maguire I think it will have to be him yes it has a special place in your heart when you grow up with them right your favorite childhood movie is that yeah yeah yeah because you did you had the Spider-Man helmet and exactly yeah I made a couple of tributes and the one I've done in the first couple of races it's it's a little bit inspired from Spider-Man three you know when the Spider-Man becomes black and mean a little bit so

So yeah, that's the inspiration. The mean side of Esty Besty coming out. I love to say it. Be honest, how many times have you pretended to shoot webs out of your hands? Too many times. And you know what? I had when I was younger, my grandma bought me the whole thing, you know, where you could shoot spider webs.

There was like, what was it actually? Like foam coming out, like, shush, shh, shh. I bet that was the best present. Yeah, it was awesome. I loved it. I broke it, unfortunately, in like, two minutes. to bring that to the bottom. Yeah.

Honestly, I thought about it, you know. Yeah. I thought about it. With the helmet, I thought about doing a release like that. It was a bit too much. That is incredible. Anna Christ O'9 has asked, how did winning for the first time feel

and how did that feeling compared to your first podium? Yeah. Because I guess it wasn't that you had podium in 2020, secure, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, it was not actually a long time in between. Well, I think a win.

is a win. Obviously, it has a special taste. But the fourth podium in Formula One, and after the year I had as well, that was quite special. But yeah, I mean, the win is what you are looking for, you know, as a driver. And I've been working all those years to get to these top steps, you know, at least once for now. And I'm working to have more. But, yeah, I mean, it's just a dream coming true to have it in F1.

And he opens up, you know, a lot of. of outside things. You know, people are more interested in you. Teams are also, you know, more trusting you in a way. And, you know, the team I'm currently in at Alpin, they know that I will take the opportunity, you know, if it arise. So, you know, all these things makes it, you know, even more sweet, you know, to have win once.

Yeah, talk me through that a little bit because I'm really interested to hear the emotion. and the sort of progression throughout that race because it was a crazy race. It was you versus Vettel for the win, basically, although to be fair, it didn't actually end. It wouldn't have been that way even if Vettel had the last. No, true, yeah.

But how bad would that have been? That would not have been a way to win. You know, he passed me into turn one. And also if you won and then you didn't get that feeling and it came to you afterwards. It would have been horrible. Why, it would have been okay, but... Oh, no.

Horrible I won, though. Yeah, you would have kind of been taken away from it. Yeah. So, yeah, of course, you're leading. you led pretty much the whole way, didn't you, once you got there? Yeah, 60 something laps, yeah. What was that actually like in those, especially those last few laps where I'm sure you knew, I'm still winning.

And we've only got a few laps left. Vetter was not going away. No. What did you actually think in those last few laps? Well, I thought already in the last few laps, not the last few laps, but already like 15, like this is the longest race ever. This is so long, you know, it keeps on going, keeps on going. And yeah, I just, I was just, couldn't wait to see the flag, basically.

Already when the strike happened, the bowling strike in the first corner. Yeah, like Spotsas. Anyway, at that time I thought, ah, you know, there's a good result that we can play here, like potentially podium. Like, I thought it could have come. And then I stopped in the pit lane, you know, for that red flag. And then Laurent Rossi, the boss, comes in and tells me,

oh, we're going to win this race as the man. And I'm like, what do you mean, Lauren? I mean, you know, like, yeah, no, for like, let's wait. No, no, he said, you know, I'm never like that, but I have a feeling. I can spend it. Do you tell Lewis not to pit? I don't know. But he says, that one's for us.

That's exactly what he said. I said, okay, well, let's see. But he was so confident that, you know, he was sure that we were going to win. I was like, okay, because we qualify eight. We didn't have the pace to be the other time. And then, yeah, we took all the right decisions. And a long, long time after, we finally. crossed the checkered flag so yeah that was mega yeah it's absolutely crazy to watch we

were buzzing for you as you can imagine but a vettle got close once didn't he oh was it three or four times yeah yeah super close yeah yeah I saw him in yeah the problem was I think they had a little bit more pace than us but I was okay in free air you know it was at the time where I was lapping you know back markers and I was getting close to them and and I was dropping pace a little bit and he was getting closer at those times and like two or three times he kind of made that fade move into turn one and I was like he knows that this is probably my weakest area you know at the end of the straight and he can dive there and he's going to try at some point because you know that's Seb you know he's going to have one

opportunity to get and he's going to try it and and I really thought it was there have been very close at some point but you know he didn't kamikaze move especially of all the drivers to go up against for your first race win Sebastian Vett was probably not one you would have chosen because I guess does that play on your mind a little bit like there's a driver behind a four-time world champion he's got pedigree he might try something at some point as you say it does play on your mind a little bit I'm sure well for sure yeah I mean when you have someone like Seb

you know that he's not going to let me go and I have a chill race in front that's for sure but the good thing is that I knew we were fighting the whole year together already you know in the midfield and I knew it was possible to fight him all the way to the end. So if I had somebody else like Louis or Valtteri or somebody that was flying through the park the whole way, it would have been more tough. But I knew I could have kept him behind and we did so. That was good. Absolutely. Fernando played a good part as well, didn't he? With that fighting like a lion.

Final question from Emma underscore Ricardo 3. Did you do anything special to celebrate your Grand Prix win and did it feel more special being with a French team? We had a very good party, you know, on the evening with the whole team in town in Budapest. And yeah, I mean, everyone was so happy, obviously. And it was just great to celebrate just before summer break. I mean, it's a perfect time. Yeah, that's true. To win a race, you can have a party, you can have a lane, you know, the following days. And no, actually, we didn't have a lane because there was a lot of marketing things that came through just before shutdown.

But, no, it was mega. And I remember Fernando telling me just to enjoy, you know, the moment because he couldn't do that on his side when he won his first race. So, yeah, we did celebrate and he did sing in, so that was good. I can see the smile on your face. Yeah, we enjoyed it. It was good. Well, that is pretty much it, isn't it, Tommy?

Thank you so much for coming on our podcast. The first Formula One driver at P1. Absolutely love chatting to you. As with all podcasts, I'm going to now put Tommy on the spot and say final thoughts. final thoughts I hate you really generic thought and just yeah

just awesome to have you on the podcast first F1 driver didn't think we'd be here already doing this so really awesome to have you well thank you guys to have me it's an honor and congratulations on your live show as well

thank you yeah I heard it went mega so thank you so much Esther Ban thank you everybody for watching and we'll see you soon for another video bye slash podcast bye

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