P1 with Matt and Tommy - Our honest thoughts on the F1 movie

Episode Date: June 28, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Hello everybody and welcome back to the B1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. It is time for us finally to talk about the Formula One movie because we have both seen it. We saw it individually at cinemas, didn't we, Tommy? And not spoken because you're on holiday. And not spoken as well. That's the key thing here. That has been so difficult to not message you after.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I was like, I watched it and I'm like, don't say anything. Save it for the podcast. Save it for the podcast. you guys and we're going to have it out. I really hope that we're just so divided with this that we will just have a brawl. But yes, I guess a word of warning is that there'll be of course some mild spoilers discussing a few moments and some of the plot, but obviously we won't be saying this happens. Then this happens. Then this happened. We'll do our best. But of course, if you don't want anything, how do you give thoughts without talking about the movie? I don't know. If you're on
Starting point is 00:01:02 this podcast or video, you get it. So, We will do our best to not spoil too much. So, let's get into it. And the first question is not from anybody. It's from ourselves. Is it worth watching? Who goes first? It's so exciting.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Go on, you go. All right. I'll go. I'll go. Okay. Is the Formula One movie worth watching? I would say that, yes. Look, I like Formula One.
Starting point is 00:01:33 And I was in an IMAX cinema. It's wonderfully visual and audio and everything else. It's a very encapsulating thing. Would I say to go watch it? Yes, if you are a Formula One fan that wants to see Formula One cars in a really cool cinematic way. Of course, the actual APHGP car is not a Formula One car. But I would say there are things that we will get into
Starting point is 00:02:00 that are good about the movie. And I would say that just so that you don't have FOMO, Why not? It's at the movies. Just go and watch it and then we can all discuss it together. Yeah, let's be honest. Most fans are going to see it whether they like it or not. And even the people that probably are commenting on Formula One's Instagram going, oh, shut up about the movie. I want to see the racing. We'll probably end up watching it at some point because we're all Formula One fans and we kind of can't help ourselves. it was very cool to see Formula One in a cinema.
Starting point is 00:02:40 It also made me think, oh my God, why do they not just rent cinemas out to watch real Formula One? Because it would be absolutely freaking awesome to watch it on a massive screen. Formula One, I know you're watching this
Starting point is 00:02:50 because you want to know what me and Tommy is saying. Let's talk. Let's do like Matt and Tommy watch alongs. Get involved. Just drop us an email. So watching Formula One on a big screen, on a massive IMAX cinema,
Starting point is 00:03:00 the kind of creativity of like the filming of the cars and stuff like that and seeing it on a massive screen was absolutely awesome and that is about as much good things as I'll say. No, right now, you're holding it back. You're holding back all your good things. Yeah, yeah. We don't want to spoil what we're about to say about other things, Tommy.
Starting point is 00:03:24 You know what I'm saying? Like we're holding things back. Right, question. Noel Rajas, how were the race scenes? I think this is what we've been touching upon. I really loved the way that they somehow visually incorporated the Apex GP Formula 2 car into the Formula 1 races. Like the real F1 races, you had moments that were literally from the racing. And incorporating the movie into that, I thought was really awesome.
Starting point is 00:03:56 You know, back to the cinema thing, just the whole experience of that the sound, the visuals, they were really. really freaking awesome. I was sat there going, God, I love F1, and it was worth watching just purely for the effort that they put in to that side of things.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Yeah, yeah, I agree. The race scenes were easily the best part of the movie, and the good news is there's a lot of them because it's mainly just race after race after race, really.
Starting point is 00:04:28 You know, you get these long race sequence. And that is the thing that in Formula One movies and just general motorsport movies, that's normally the worst bit of the films, I must admit. But I actually think that they did it incredibly well. I mean, there's no surprise that there's going to be loads of crashes and things like that, because at the end of the day, it's a Formula One action film. But the way they put together stuff was actually very impressive. And, you know, there's plenty of cringe moments during the racing. And sometimes it does get a little bit, if you've ever seen the film driven, where it almost gets a little bit
Starting point is 00:05:05 comically ridiculous. There are moments like that, that for sure. But I will say that, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, by an absolute country. Yes. Yes. Question from I love Salat. How much misinformation is in the F1 movie?
Starting point is 00:05:28 It's, it's hard to, it is, I guess it's not misinformation as such as it's like, it's a movie and it's, I don't know, it's hard to label it a certain word because it's not misinformation in the sense of like, ah, Logan's sergeant won last year's Formula One World Championship because we're making this movie as American as possible, which is what it kind of felt like a lot of times that it was heavily Americanized. But I think that in terms of the misinformation, you had things like Brad Pitt being half a, a, circuit away from everybody else that's lined up on the grid warming up his tires so that he can then have an amazing start. Now, I know that being four or five seconds off the back, you can
Starting point is 00:06:14 get a little bit of an advantage, but the way in which they sort of over exaggerate that and many other moments, you could probably class as misinformation. It was done as if Brad Pitt was like, he comes into Formula One and he knows all the tricks. And it's like, it's proper like, what are these driver's doing? I call the strategy, why are you doing this? And then he just, you know, like, rocks up and it's amazing. And it's just kind of, yeah, the misinformation is, is weird, is a weird one for me, because the, they tried to keep the, and you could tell this was Lewis Hamilton's influence of the way the car gets better during the season and things is like through upgrades and things like that. So it's like, that, that side of it's believable, whereas, you know, other racing movies,
Starting point is 00:06:58 you see the normal classic cliches where it's like, change down the gear and play. accelerator harder to go faster. They didn't actually weirdly have any of that, but, oh my God. I mean, to be honest, looking at, I found it a difficult watch for like the first part of the movie just because of the main plot, which I don't know if you want to get into straight away. We will. Let's go into the next question.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Generic F1 name. Does Brad Pitt being such an old F1 driver work? In one of the trailers, we're told. He raced with Schumacher and with Senna, making him one of the oldest F1 drivers ever, surely? Well, look, Brad Pitt himself is 61 years old. I don't believe at any point during the film it was clarified how old he is supposed to be playing as a character. But let's be real, he's not playing anyone earlier than early 50s. So does he work as being an old F1 driver?
Starting point is 00:07:58 Right. So I'm going to come with my biggest criticism of the movie and the thing. that really just peed me off. And it's the fact that, look, I'm a hardcore Formula One fan. I appreciate just how much these drivers work to be the absolute elite levels of their game. And then there's Lance Troll. I know exactly what you do.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Brad Pitt rocking up at Silverstone, as a 60-year-old man on his Zimmerframe, plonking himself into the car on a 10. stay at Silverstone against Joshua Pierce, who is supposedly this young hot shot potential with a bit of mistake in him. And on the first lap, going within six tenths of a second, after smashing the car to smithereens around the final corner, supposedly still hitting his target lap time. I think that just completely and utterly defecates on what Formula One's achievements and the drivers.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I can... Unlike what Formula One is. I 100% agree. I cannot believe Formula One allowed that plot. Right. I watched that and this is what I was... Borderline fuming actually through the start of the film. Because...
Starting point is 00:09:16 And I actually enjoyed it more as it got on, but I could not get past the fact of the plot is absolute garbage. Like... It's generally like Chat GPT wrote it. Right. If the... So I don't know about you, but obviously we've known for a long...
Starting point is 00:09:32 time. Brad Pitt is the star. We all know that. He looks younger than 60. And I look like that as 60. Exactly. So I assumed, oh, he's going to be like an Alonzo age character and he can kind of pass for it so it'd be fine. And then I watched the star and it's like, oh no, he's actually 60 years old. He's he's raced against Senna, not driven in Formula on for 30 years. And then joins in mid-season and is competitive. And I was, and I'm sorry, but you had every single possibility of a plot here. Because it's a Formula One movie, you could essentially pick anything. It's not based on a real life story.
Starting point is 00:10:15 You've got brilliant stories in Formula One like Rush and, you know, other Formula One movies. And so many real life moments of history where, you know, Lewis Hamilton came in as a young driver against a real experienced driver and against the odds. nearly won the championship, things like that. There are these incredible stories in Formula One. And yet they chose a 60-year-old IMSA driver rocking up and basically, you know, doing his neck training on the side of his bed and is a gambling taxi driver
Starting point is 00:10:49 and can just rock up to a Formula One race and be really, really good. And I watched the whole thing and I was like, did you really have to choose that as the plot because it's absolutely ridiculous? I saw a funny thing online that was like Johnny Her. Is the equivalent of Johnny Herbert? Like Williams being like, we need to take a risk. Let's let's bring Johnny Herbert back.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Yeah. It's bizarre. And it feeds into the exact demographic that think Formula One is just driving around in circles and everyone can do it. Yeah. 100%. I think it devalued Formula One and the talent and the special like. And Frank hates it as well. I can hear him in the background.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Absolutely. he's angry as well he cannot believe how bad the plot was uh so yeah the fact that they could have chosen anything and anywhere to go with this movie it was the most generic predictable plot you could ever wish to see and no one wants to see that because like going back to a positive i think the start was so cool the way they filmed imsa like i was genuinely It took my breath away how they captured the visuals. That looked some of the best bit of the whole movie was the Daytona bit. Yeah, it was amazing.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I'm like, forget, it's Daytona the movie now, please. But yeah, when, I mean, the plot, we haven't even got half into the plot. This is literally just the overarching, I guess, gist of the movie. But to answer your question, no, it does not work. It doesn't work. It's a terrible, terrible, terrible idea. And I can't believe that at no point they thought, is this a good idea? idea to make it like this.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And I would say as well, I don't know if you feel the same, Tommy, that they genuinely could have made Joshua Pierce the main character and had his story and his trials and tribulations as that driver in the team. Trying to get into Formula One and he's the young driver and Brad Pitt is the experienced driver. It didn't need to be. It felt like. Have Brad Pitt as the team principal.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Do something different. Can we can we just talk about and, you know, sorry, this is a. If you've seen it, you'll know anyway. This is going to be a four-hour podcast. Yeah, go on. It's fine. If there was a football movie that was a guy that played Sunday, maybe Sunday League is a bit unfair, but played, you know, semi-professional or a lesser, say played in like a lower league, like a non-league thing compared to the premiership. And suddenly one day, the Premier League or the England manager is like, I'm going to get my old mate Terry to play.
Starting point is 00:13:27 He was really good in PE back in the day. and rocks up and then just wins the World Cup, you would basically be like, this is a comedy of how ridiculous that plot is. And that's how I felt about watching that idea. I'm not a huge football fan, but I feel like it's more, because obviously Brad Pitt is supposed to have been a Formula One driver.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Like he was racing centre, racing Schumacher, etc, etc. It's more like bringing the old Ronaldo back. Yeah, yeah. And then he just, mate, I'm really good at football. This is how you do. do it and his skills past everyone and then what are these young talents doing? Yeah, smashes it in the top corner and yeah, you know, what are all these these idiots doing? It's kind of, yeah, I had big problems with that, that plot. It felt like the plot was built around
Starting point is 00:14:15 Brad Pitt's ego and just him basically wanting to be a Formula One driver rather than thinking it was a good idea to make him that. Yeah, it felt like the entire movie was built around Brad Pitt. They're like, right, we've got Brad Pitt signed up. How do we make a movie? that works with him as the main character and then they built it from there into a really poor plot in my opinion. The question. I think we've made that very clear.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Elliot on F1. Take away the actual F1 part. Is it a decent movie to watch? No. As you probably gather, genuinely take out the action stuff. It's a really poor movie in my opinion. You have, I'm going to throw in another thing now
Starting point is 00:14:55 which again really grinded my gears. you had the main female character who was a really awesome role technical director in a Formula One team and she was played as I mean you could clearly see she was very talented she was able to extract things from the car she's doing great in her job
Starting point is 00:15:19 she's got this sort of subplot of the fact that she wants to prove herself to all of these other people and yet she has a one night stand with the driver. Yeah, that's so degrading. That's just joined the team. And she's the technical director. And I'm just like, what year are we in?
Starting point is 00:15:38 Like, how is this? How has someone signed this off? Yes, this is what we want. We know, we want to show the female part, but we're going to put her in Brad Pitt's bed. That's what we need. We need an utterly pointless romance, which isn't even really a romance.
Starting point is 00:15:53 She risks her career for nothing. I'm like, guys, please just delete that and just have her as an amazing technical director, which is what she was. I don't think it's unfair to say that without the Formula One scenes, which, and this is your, this maybe is getting more into kind of like movie opinion and what you like, but without the amazing Formula One scenes, which I think that is why you go and watch it for those amazing action sequences, you take away those and it is probably one of the worst movies I've ever seen. The plot is utter garbage. It's a cringe fest of every single Hollywood cliche you could possibly imagine.
Starting point is 00:16:32 There's no, you know, they just throw away random things like, oh yeah, my dad died. Oh, mine too. And they don't explore anything about it. There's no heartfelt, you don't feel any kind of empathy or excitement for Apex GP as a team. There's no, there's no like, it doesn't feel like an underdog story in a weird way because there's no kind of trials and tribulations. Um, there's no feeling at all. Brad Pitt's character is just like you say, like a, they've written into chat GPT, make the most generic and cliched Formula One movie you could imagine and pressed enter and this is what it's come up with because it is absolute trash the plot. Like it's genuinely abysmally awful. I can't believe the ratings that it's got on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes. It's a 7.9 out of 10 on IMDB and an 84% on Rotten Tomatoes. Nothing happens apart from the action sequences. There's no plot.
Starting point is 00:17:28 There's no, the characters are meaningless. Like you say, they just throw in general, like random romance or it's a mess. Like the whole idea around the plot is mad. And the only thing that people will like is the fact that maybe it's because the racing side is more the story, which is fine. but every other bit of the non-racing bit is utterly awful, like so bad. I can't even... Tommy, tell us how you really feel. I can't believe that that's the best Hollywood can come up with.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Like, no wonder they're worried about AI taking their jobs, because my God, if that's the best thing they can write, Jesus Christ. I want to go to another part of the movie that also is sort of linked with how Formula One want to portray themselves as a sport to new fans and things like that. There actually is a question from people on Patreon member Longo, 1996. How do you think this film will resonate with moviegoers who know nothing about F1 and people who know about the sport? So this is where I'm going to link, again, a surprising angle that Formula One signed off on,
Starting point is 00:18:42 which is Brad Pitt essentially manipulating races and causing incidents, just cheating like literally cheating as a team is a troll on eye racing in Formula One yeah like I was sat there going how was Formula One allowed this it's so weird that it's like a really safe
Starting point is 00:19:04 movie in terms of like plot line where it's never like crazy twists and insane moments because you always see like Formula One is safe yet the image of Formula One is like really poor I don't know how they've allowed to put their down name on something other than if you like you say the the action sequences but like there the actual
Starting point is 00:19:24 betrayal of Formula One is a mockery yeah yeah so you can tell obviously that the drivers when they were interviewed on the red carpet have been brief look be be nice about the F1 movie like it's in your best interest and the drivers you know wonder the drivers don't like it that that they want well haven't said anything about it when they watch it everything we need to know yeah because they watch it and go well actually I've spent I've sacrificed my whole damn life to be a Formula One driver and Hollywood has come in and made it look like, what are these stupid F1 drivers doing? You just need to drive quicker and look what I can do as a 60 year old guy that likes gambling. It's like, wow, really. Yeah, yeah. And that was obviously
Starting point is 00:20:08 the main gripe. But yeah, I just was surprised that they were showcasing this cheating stuff and making it seem like that's what teams do. And then also they, they just, they just, just get away with it. Oh, you have to start the back of the grid for your antics for the, from the last race where you were just like just literally eating people. And also, I think what was the other thing I was going to mention? There's so many things. I literally made a full-blown list on the things that really upset me about this.
Starting point is 00:20:38 They skipped over qualifying completely. They just made it seem like it was just racing, which I guess is more of a hardcore F-1 strategy. Yeah, you're never going to show bits like that, which I do understand, but. Another thing as well was I did like the fact that they had tried to make it as close to real life as possible. Like they kept the commentary and things like that. It's cheesy. Like it's always, yeah, yeah. It's always going to be quite cheesy because you know it's not real.
Starting point is 00:21:08 But oh my God, the clichés just killed me every moment that you, like you say, like it's so predictable. So predictable, everything. When the entire team were banging on the table saying plan combat, whatever it was. I nearly melted into my chair. It was cringe. It's incredible cringe, isn't it? Okay, next question. Lewis Lieberman is for Stappen made out to be the villain?
Starting point is 00:21:37 No. Not that I can remember. He's just very briefly part of it. But no villains really. Okay, hold on, Tommy. I've got another thing to add, which I absolutely thought was ridiculous. just silly in this plot where it felt like they'd written about half the movie and then gone we don't actually have a villain so then turned to this random investor person from the board
Starting point is 00:22:03 into a sabotaging criminal that essentially is the weakest idea for a plot line faked the upgrade submitted it to the fia the fia like no you can't race with this part now and then he was wanting them to do terrible at the end and I'm like sat there going is this the villain it was bizarre especially when we knew like there was no twists coming
Starting point is 00:22:29 we knew what was going to happen by the end of this film that's what I had a problem with is the cliches and the predictability and it had been the only way it could have been more predictable is if they'd given you a copy of the script
Starting point is 00:22:41 before you walked in because I feel like a lot of films now kind of shy away from the fact that, you know, when there's one second to go and you save the world and it's like literally one second and you turn the bomb off and oh, we saved the day.
Starting point is 00:22:57 And you realize that like, they've realized that that's so cheesy and unpredictable. This is just kind of like, oh, surely, surely this isn't going to. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, it does. Yeah, it just does. And yeah, there's moments like that that just makes you go,
Starting point is 00:23:12 oh my word, who wrote this utter rubbish? You know what I did love? There is a part that I do. did love. And that's the fact that there was an incident with three laps to go at Abu Dhabi and they red flagged it. Yeah. I wonder what Hamilton's influence was. I'm like, my guy Hamilton has been producing this one. Yeah, throw the red flag. It's just that, I sat there and I went, yeah, no, I like that. Yeah, I can't believe Michael Massey wasn't made the villain. Michael Massey would have made a better villain than the random investor guy that makes no sense. And like you say,
Starting point is 00:23:47 that they, it feels like, and it's a really weird one because you, they almost had like, and my wife said this one, we watched it afterwards, that in a weird way, because they had so much access, everything went into making the racing scenes look really good, which I think a lot of F1 fans will appreciate because normally, like I said at the start of the show, it's the opposite. Normally, it's quite a good plot and then you get to the racing and it's like, well, that looks a bit stupid, that looks silly. The racing scenes, and you, was amazing and the onboards and it didn't look fake like a lot of moments do because you could tell it was all done properly and things like that. But it almost felt like they got so much access that it had to throw so much kind of race footage in there that to not make the film like six hours long.
Starting point is 00:24:37 They were just like, let's make tiny little plot bits and just go, Brad Pitt have some romance. Brad Pitt, play a game of cards. Brad Pitt do this and just throwing random sprinkle. You lost for a pair of fives and he's like no idea. And you're like, oh, I wonder what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I think honestly, as I said at the top of the podcast, I would go and see it. Just purely for what we said about the racing and things like that, you just have to literally switch your brain off for the rest of it. Like I don't even think you could class this
Starting point is 00:25:13 just a popcorn movie because there isn't any like you are literally on a one track road to where you know you are going. There's no twists and turns. There's no, it's just, yeah. So yeah, I don't know if that's a spoiler or not, but yeah, tough luck.
Starting point is 00:25:27 You've got this far. You want to hear our thoughts. Kieran F3, 2, 1. Is there anything in the movie that you thought was unnecessary? So yeah, the romance thing was ridiculous. I think we need to, I think you need to go further into that.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I think that the, I've seen a lot of people say this and I do completely agree that I think the perception of, of women in that film was pretty shameful to be honest. Yes, because the mechanic as well. The mechanic is like there's one female mechanic who immediately at the start is bumping into people, you know, has got like a, gets a pat on the back and is really nervous and terrible.
Starting point is 00:26:01 And then the only other like woman in the film who's in a really good position of power, like you say. And then she becomes just someone that Brett Pitt sleeps with. Like what the hell? Like you can tell the second. that was a good idea. And that the two characters met. They had her do a little thing.
Starting point is 00:26:17 And then you're like, there's the romance that. And it's so, it's so unnecessary. And I totally understand why people that, you know, Formula One have tried their best to like make the sport more progressive. And there's,
Starting point is 00:26:29 you know, loads of new female fans coming into the sport. And for Formula One to allow that as a way to perceive the plot that it's like, here's the first, here's the first ever female. technical director, but her whole character is just going to be so I pick and sleep with her light. It's just shameful, to be honest. Ridiculous, because you know, you've got F1 Academy,
Starting point is 00:26:52 which is doing such amazing things for females and motorsport. And then you have the movie, which is, of course, going to go out to millions and millions of people. You have a, you have some kind of, like, responsibility as an organisation to make sure that, you know, Hollywood doesn't turn it into another stupid. A big joke. So basically it turns Formula One into a bit of a clown joke. It just takes them back 20 years. Yeah, it does. I'm very surprised I didn't throw in grid girls and things like that as well. If they were really going down that route, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Because the whole plot is super like 1980s opinion of Formula One where it's like, you know, Brad Pitt's there like smoking and drinking and like, oh, this is the good old days. This is what it should be like. And it's like, I can't believe Formula One. I guess they get so caught up in it that they don't think about how. Well, maybe F1 are doing unexpected things and in the secret. Michael Massey will actually come back as a Formula One driver to beat Lewis Hamilton on track and then win the World Championship in 2030. You never know. Question from people on Patreon member, Mary M.M.
Starting point is 00:27:55 If you could change only one thing in the movie, what would it be? What I would change. Right, hear me out. What I would change in the movie is that we have two and a half hours of racing footage. That's it. Not one singular piece of that plot. interested me. True.
Starting point is 00:28:15 And yeah. You could have cut it out and it would have made more sense as a movie because the literal, the plot bits where they weren't racing added nothing. So if you literally removed them, it would be a much more watchable movie in a weird way. I feel like we have been utterly savage on this movie, but I think that we've also been very fair with the positives. I know there aren't many, but is an overwhelming positive the visuals of this movie.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I cannot stress how well they have done. to capture what a Formula One weekend feels like the racing, the sounds. I think they did a phenomenal job in actually capturing it in the small amounts of time that they had on the grid, for example. Because it's a very complicated sport and fair play to them for, like I say, at the start, not forming into the cliches of like, yeah, like pressing the accelerate down harder or banging wheels and downshift and go quicker. Yeah, and all those kind of cliches.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Instead, they did showcase that the sport is all about aerodevelopment and you're quicker if you've got softer tires on and better tire life and things like that. So they did kind of bring that in and you could tell that was Lewis Hamilton's influence, I think, of going. Without Hamilton, I think we would have been in big trouble. 100%. Like my word. I love it. I love how excited we've been to talk about this. I can literally feel the energy from both of us.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Like, yeah, and what about this? I'm trying to think, because the points that we've brought up aren't really from a hardcore F1 fan perspective. I think it could just be a casual that would feel quite similarly. And of course, you know, if you're listening to this, if you're watching this on YouTube, let us know in the comments what you thought of this because I'd be really interested to see if, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:58 us two oldies, perhaps we have missed the trick completely and it's actually the greatest movie of all time. Because I think... The ratings are high. Because I do watch that and think, like, my God, if I was like a kid watching it again, and I kind of go in and not think about the plot and it's just like F1 on the big screen
Starting point is 00:30:16 I'd have absolutely loved it but I kind of was hoping that there'd be some because at the end of the day and it's a movie so I kind of want it to be interesting so that's where my criticism lies and it's very weird one to be on a Formula One podcast and sound like we're kind of slating it
Starting point is 00:30:34 because weirdly the F1 bit is the actual good bit yeah and it's just It's just the Hollywood cringe fest that they've added to all the good bits of the kind of action and how well it's been put together. Absolutely. Question from people on picture. Remember, Alan Enderpey. Could we possibly see a sequel if the movie does well at the box office? F2.
Starting point is 00:30:58 No. I take F2 the movie. I don't think so. I think this is a one and done. From what we've said about the plot, right? I genuinely think they've sat down. Everyone like, yeah, we want a movie. We want Brad Pitt.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Okay, take off. And I feel like they've sat down to write the script and gone, how's this going to work? God, how do we make a movie about F1? Okay, let's go generic. Let's go really generic and just hope it does well. Because that's what it felt like. And it has done very well from the, like you say,
Starting point is 00:31:27 like the movie reviews and stuff. So I think from the kind of action sequences and the casuals seem to really, you know, love it. and I do think that, you know, I was always going into there not wanting, I knew it wasn't going to be a documentary, you know, I don't want to see, it would make a very bad movie if we had to watch an hour practice session and explaining, oh, well, now they're setting up the cars and all this kind of stuff. I understand that. It was just the plot that made it difficult. And at the end of the day, the sequel, I just don't see how that's going to happen because Formula One has given the most unbelievable access to this project where they are literally like on the
Starting point is 00:32:11 starting grid at Silverstone, which we've all seen and Brad Pitt on the podium and you'll have seen the clips online anyway of little moments that we've seen throughout the filming of this is because, you know, they've given so much access. So I can't see it happening again because it would, it's just, it's just like a. one-off thing that F-1 really did bend over backwards to make it happen and the Formula One racing side of it, you know, fair play. It's very good and chose Formula One in a good way, just not the plot way. I think maybe going to add some small pros as well before I, because I had made notes. I did actually think that the two drivers, is it Brad and
Starting point is 00:32:58 Damson, I think his name is. I think they had really good chemistry, in fairness. Like, I think, like, from a back and forth type thing, they were, they were good in terms of how they worked together, how they had some banter and whatever. I will add that as a small pro, because they were still working around a plot that was difficult to watch. Hans Zimmer, I think he nailed it. Really good.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Standard music. Yeah, amazing. Yeah, just standard. Like, it just, and that just kind of brought the whole thing together, didn't it, with the incredible visuals. And that is, I think, all my positives. Any positives you want to leave with, Tommy? That's going to be your, not your final thoughts as such.
Starting point is 00:33:37 We are going to give a rating out of 10, but any final positives? Positive. Or just negatives. No, no, I mean, I've gone in on the kind of negatives with the way they've portrayed the sport sometimes and stuff. But the positives are, actually one thing we've not spoken about is there are, of course, funny little Easter eggs for Formula One fans, which people will love. We won't say them. We don't want to spoil it because that's part of the fun. But I liked that they threw in a few little nods here and there to Formula One fans to be like, oh, that's funny that only Formula One fans
Starting point is 00:34:14 would get. So that was a cool moment. OK-dokey. Finally, then, what do we give this film out of 10? I think this might be the hardest out of 10 grade I've ever had to give. It's two things. If it was like, if I'd gone in knowing it's a terrible, like terrible plot and just watch it for the action. And I'd gone into kind of knowing what we do now and gone in and say, just enjoy the visuals. It's probably like, yeah, like a nine or a ten. Yeah, exactly. The visuals are incredible. But I also like, it's a movie. It's a movie and I like to be entertained and like a good plot. So the movie is like a zero. So, and, the actual plot of it is a zero, so I would give it like a three out of ten.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Three out of ten from Tommy for the movie. I'm going to not be as harsh because as a Formula One fan, I did really love the action stuff. So I'm going to give it a four out of ten. Yeah, four out of ten. It's like driver age. I'm not going to be much harsher, one grade different. Yeah, yeah, literally. But look, we've highlighted the reasons why we've given it a low grade.
Starting point is 00:35:22 But that is it. It's just an opinion. I really wanted to love it. Sadly, I wanted to love it. I think that's the big disappointment thing in a way I'm so passionate about it because I actually was one of these people that was ready to go in and defend it and go, it doesn't matter that this happens because at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:35:41 like it's Hollywood. It needs to be a bit ridiculous. It needs to be entertaining. A bit like what we've said with Drive to Survive sometimes, that like sometimes you do have to like get a little bit of the context out of the way to make it an entertaining product. So I was kind of. all for that happening.
Starting point is 00:35:56 The problem was they went so far wrong with the whole premises of the movie in the first place. That's what bothered me so much. And that is it. Thank you, everybody, for tuning in. This was a long one. We will see you very soon for, I guess, the rest of the Austrian Grand Prix content. Yeah, let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:36:13 So enjoy that. Yeah, can't wait for that. And Tommy's going to star as the main character for the next F1 movie I've just heard in my ear. From fictional news.com. There you go. Thank you, everybody. We'll see you soon. Let's love to care.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Bye! Bye. P1 is a Stack production and part of the ACAST creator network.

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