P1 with Matt and Tommy - Our predictions for the 2025 F1 grid

Episode Date: June 14, 2024

As we brace for perhaps the silliest silly season of all time, we've worked out who we think will be on the 2025 F1 grid. Do you agree with our line-up predictions?You can sign up to our Patreon here! You'll get access to exclusive episodes you won't hear anywhere else, every P1 episode ad-free, full driver interview videos, early access to merch, tickets & more!Follow us on socials! You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Twitch, YouTube and TikTok. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello everybody and welcome back to the B1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. And we're about to get our time travelling machine out again. Because of course, if you have listened to the podcast a while ago, we did a 2024 silly season predictions. And then Lewis Hamilton decided to make it the silliest of seasons ever after we did the predictions. So we're now coming back. We've taken a deep breath and we're going to try and now predict it. But you would think it might be a little bit.

easier because we've had a few drivers sign and this sort of stuff. I don't really know what's going to happen here, but it will make a very entertaining podcast, Mr Bellingham. Indeed, it's crazy that this whole Hamilton kind of triggering the whole thing, which for a start, it's hilarious when we do these predictions we always get, oh, what are you on about? Like, you're just, it's just crazy. But imagine if last year would have gone,

Hamilton's going to break his contract with Mercedes and go to Ferrari, everyone would have laughed at us. Yeah. It's crazy how it's happened. And also the fact that Hamilton was announced, was it February now, way before the season, I think it was February. And we are still in this kind of stalemate between a lot of teams where you're waiting on, you know, people like Carlos Sines and what's going to happen with Mercedes before anything kind of triggers.

And more drivers have kind of come in and been signed now, but there's still so much like I've changed my mind so many times basically doing this as well because it's still crazy and I'm here for it because it's great. This is what we want, right? We kind of went from a season where no driver changes and then now we're into everyone's changing pretty much or it feels that way anyway.

So we're going to dive straight into it then and go in reverse alphabetical order because we're fun like that. We like to be edgy. So we're going to start with Williams. Now, of course, Alexander Albon is already signed sealed delivered. He is contracted.

But who is taking that second seat? I am going to lock in. Charlotte Clair. No, I'm not. I just felt like that. That felt like normal and at home to say that. Carlos signs. I think he's going to go to Williams.

Now, of course, there is discussion around him going to Kixalba. or maybe even like Hasse, but he's basically not really got a lot of great choices available to him now. Red Bull have obviously said, nah, mate, you're not coming here. Mercedes have pretty much said, no, we're not interested in you either, which is savage. But for Carlos, this is unfortunately the situation he has been presented with. So I think Williams, yeah, I mean, obviously, look, James Vowles has said, you know, he's openly seducing Carlos. signs right in front of Logan Sargent who's just eating his croissant you know what I mean like he's not hit it has he he's literally doing it right in front of his salad like it's it's mental um so

obviously I think Logan's gone so I think that Carlos signs with James Vowles at the helm Williams I think they are building up to something to at least get them to the sort of top of the midfield and look it's going to be an engine formula from 2026 they're going to have a Mercedes in the back of that maybe science fancies is a little bit. bit of that. So yeah, I'm going to lock him in. Interesting. So of course, Alex Albin is staying in my lineup as well. And I've gone for Valtari Bottas. Ooh, back to Williams, which kind of spoils where certain Carlos Sites is going, you can imagine. It's a Red Bull. Yeah, Red Bull. It's so interesting with Carlos, though, isn't it?

because he was the man of the moment at the start of the year. And there was a Red Bull seat free, there was a Mercedes seat free. It was all like, oh, we're going to keep waiting until, you know, these seats are gone. And surely Carlos is going to be at one of them. And now it's like, take your pick between the three worst teams on the grid, pretty much, which is a shame to see for Carlos. but I can see Bottas going back to Williams. He's an experienced driver.

He's won races. He knows James. And I can see, like Williams need experience now. They need to grow. Alex Albin has committed to Williams and they can build that team around him now. And Bottas is a good solid choice, I think. Certainly is.

Is my prediction completely far-fetched to you? Or can you see it possibly happen? No, it really does seem like it is very strong between Williams and Kixalba now for Carlos. And I could see either way, I think it's very strongly rumoured that he's going to Williams. I think there's just something in my head that's like, surely he's just going to Audi, but then it still brings that painful sort of year that he's going to have whichever team he goes to. Yeah, poor Carlos. Or Williams might be the goats in 2026, like you said,

and be unbelievable and do a Braun GP and we're all going, wow, Charles should have left as well and gone to Williams. Imagine that. That would have been something. Okay, let's go to Kixalba then, where, of course, Nico Holcomberg has signed from next year. And I am going to lock in for my second driver that Valtrey Potas is staying.

I think that he is he's beating Joe quite comprehensively I know that show has all these little bits of bad luck that people love to highlight to us in driver ratings but also Bottas he might be well having the season of his life finishing 15th in that car but we don't know he's beating his teammate

so maybe Bottas isn't as washed as we all thought and that car is actually just horrendous but either or I think Fowtri could easily stay And then you've got a line up of Holkenberg and Bottas, which is strong. Both of them have had their moments of moments in the sun. Obviously, Holcomburg not so much, especially on the podium. But maybe that will change. I hope it will change before he retires.

But I think that's a strong lineup. So I don't see that it couldn't be a possibility for Salba. So unsurprisingly, Kiksalba, I've gone for. Vestappen. And Kolar Sites. Who did you say? Vestappen. Vestappen.

Big shock. He's seen the Audi engine and he thinks it's absolutely worth it to drive the green wheelie bin for a year. Oh, God, Carlos. This was such a great choice and this, I actually still made this prediction when we did. I think it was our 2026 predictions. Goodness knows how long ago and said that Carlos would go and be that Audi driver and I still think he is.

But it's amazing how now the. Kiksalber option has arrived and it's one of the only options that Carlos can get. I'm almost less convinced by it because they're so awful this year. And you've got to think that that's what science is thinking about. That sure, the lure of Audi, and I do think Audi, I don't think they're going to do a Braun GP, I don't think they're going to do a Mercedes in 2014 where suddenly they're the best team on the grid. but surely if their engine's good and it's an engine formula you want to have a works engine

in the back of your car and Audi are going to pump a lot of money into it surely and it is basically a case of a punt on Audi being really really good and just enduring the pain but what pain it's going to be because my word Salber are even worse than I could have possibly imagined this year Yeah, I've kind of gone sort of 180 with this one where you think, ah, the Audi dream, they're joining Formula One. But now more and more I think about it, it's how likely are they actually going to be good in 2026 when they are literally starting in Formula One? And you think of all the teams that have joined Formula One. Toyota's a great example.

They threw money and, like so much money at a team and never succeeded. Well, and the thing is there's always a limitation to throw money at a, team as well. It's not like because you're joining Formula One, you can throw one billion at it. There's always going to be rules that they have to abide by. So yeah, it's going to be very interesting to see if Alti can be good in 2026. It is a punt for sure. But I can see it as well, like Bottas and signs maybe the other way around. It's just, it could go either way, in my opinion. So very interesting indeed. Next up, Red Bull. Why don't you kick us off, Tommy, with your two drivers? I have gone for

Maxa Stappen and no way no sir Joe Paris they're not going to bin him off before this no they're not they're not it will be not when they've signed him but it's so funny because I was like yeah they're locked in

and then maybe it's just the timing we're doing this people could look back on this in three months time and Perez completely turned around his form and we're like what you even saying he's got a contract but if we're here in three months time and he's having the same race as he did in Monaco and Canada for the next three months. Contracts can be broken. We know this.

It seems like he is, though, going to have that. It seems to be one year and then one year. So you think they commit to that year, see how he does next year and then decide to bin him off if his form is really bad. But, no, I've gone for what they have said it will be. Wow, trusting what Red Bull have said. I have also locked in Max Verstappen and Sergio Perez. I think that if we're looking towards 2026, then it's a different story if Perez continues this form.

But it would just be far too expensive for Red Bull to promise Perez this contract that they've, for some reason, signed very early in the season as of right now. So they're clearly locking them in for 25 and then, yeah, that plus one that obviously Christian Horner sort of let slip rather than it being a two-year deal suggests that they still are looking at the market, but I don't think they'll make changes soon. But as you say, if he has a terrible season from here on in, I'm sure we'll discuss it at least in 18 different occasions. R.B. Now, of course, Yuki-Snoda is signed. Tommy, what are the two that you've gone for? I have gone for Yuki-Sanoda and Daniel Riccardo. Oh, and it's painful for Certain Liam

Lawson who was so good but it does feel like wrong place wrong time and I know Daniel's had a tough season but whatever way you look at Formula One it's sometimes not always about performance and Daniel Riccardo I think will will stay it sounds like he is going to be one of the favourites the team still really love him despite his his performance and he's a good benchmark for Yuki Sonoda. Do I agree that they should do this? No. I think Lawson really does deserve

a chance. You know, you can't really do much more than what he did when he was given that opportunity in very difficult circumstances to come in mid-season and he did everything and more. But I do believe that they're going to stick with them. And Sunoda is an interesting one because if you've done this a few weeks ago, I'd think that he'd have been trying to get out that RB contract with him not promoting him

and look to an Alpine or like we said in our P1 Extra video or like Aston Martin, but then, spoiler alert, Aston Martin might be filled. Maybe, just maybe. Maybe. For my RB line up, I have gone for Yuki Sonoda and Daniel Ricardo. I am of the same opinion. I think that Red Bull have been very open, especially in the,

with the communication of Helmut Marco, with how perhaps drivers bring more to the table than just their on-track performances. And I think Daniel Ricardo is exactly the same. Of course, he's off the back of a great weekend. So that's that. That can simmer for a while. But also, he is a massive marketing asset.

He's well-loved. He's a race winner. And I think that that at this stage they're willing i i don't think red bull as much as leum lawson did a great job were blown away by what he did because otherwise they would make the change that that's for me how i see it but for some reason i just have it in my head that they're not willing to to take that risk with sonoda and lawson in a lineup uh but instead would rather have ricardo and i saw a i saw a tweet about danio ricardo in canada and it was

on board and they were like, what a team player Daniel Ricardo is. He's willing to let you keep, you know, because he, I don't know if you saw it, but he lifted when Sonoda was attacking another car down the straight. And there was this kind of narrative of, oh, Daniel Ricardo is such a great team player. He lifted, he didn't try and go for the move into the last chican. And I'm sat there going, okay, fine. I think Daniel Ricardo is a level-headed teammate to have. But the rest of the track was wet. Like, the man is lifting because he doesn't want to go spearing into the wall on dry tires. So I do love how there are some narratives out there.

I'm like, really? But I do agree that he is a good teammate to have, rather than a Sonoda and Lawson, which I think could bubble over to be one of these, I'm trying to do better than you. I will do anything in my power to do it. Yeah, and they just don't, they just don't seem to be this team anymore like they were in 2010.

And that's the thing that I think, everyone, even the media still kind of say it. You see them going on Sky Sports. They're like, R.B is meant to be the stepping stone. But kind of not now. Like they've got Sergio Perez in, who was never a Red Bull driver. They've shown that they will go outside of the Red Bull program to do things. They bought Daniel Ricardo back rather than bringing a young driver.

It is not this Toro Rosso Red Bull ladder like it is. It's just not that anymore. Interesting stuff. And of course, with that, that activates Liam Lawson's ability to seek elsewhere, seek other employment, because that was the agreement is that if he didn't have a seat for 25, he can look elsewhere. Let's go to Mercedes then. And for my lineup, of course, George Russell has signed. And alongside him, as much as I didn't predict this first time around, I'm going to predict it this time. Kimmy Antonelli is going to have that second Mercedes seat. mainly I'm mainly going for this because Toto Wolf has openly said that they're focusing on Antonelli basically and continuously sort of doubling down with this one and it comes back to what Tommy said previously

when we were doing the 2024 silly season podcast of he doesn't want another Max Verstappen to go on by and all this sort of stuff and Antonelli he's not in a car at the moment that's really stealing headlines in Formula 2 they've been struggling, if anything. He's not been out there winning every race or really sort of continuing that hyper momentum.

If anything, I think it's died down a lot from what, you know, Oh, Antonelli and F2, all these reports of, oh, Antonelli drove Catalonia and was two and a half seconds quicker than everybody else at a, you know, and all of this sort of stuff

that was flying around. Himself. Yeah, exactly. Without an engine. It was very much Fred Flintstone. God, that is a boomer reference. But I, so all of that's kind of died down. but I still think that Toto is fully tunnel visioning to Antonelli.

And look, it'll be a very exciting lineup to see. And it looks as if that's the way they're going at the moment. So I've also gone for George Russell and Kimmy Antonelli. I cannot see it being any other way. I know a lot of people think that he will jump into Williams and that will be his kind of learning curve. But for all the rubbish that Jack Villeen of Spouts. He made a very interesting point on Sky and he said look, Formula One is an ego, very ego

driven game and Toto Wolf will want to put Antonelli in and prove to the world, look, I knew he was amazing when he was 12 years old, blah, blah, blah. He has lost Lewis Hamilton at his team and his ego is bruised by that and now he has the opportunity. to basically do what Ron Dennis did with Lewis Hamilton and be that guy to be like, look, I've bought this kid on from the early ages, I've seen his potential, and we've given him the chance, and he's delivered.

I do agree the hype has died down massively. He's not kind of hit the ground running like George Russell or Charlerc did when in that series, but they know when a driver is that good and that there's something there that they see. And you can argue that some drivers have come in and maybe not set the world a light. And then also, let's look at what Max Verstappen did.

They took a risk. A lot of people said he was too young, couldn't do it. There's a lot of pressure to basically even say that he could be the next Max Verstappen, but that is what Mercedes clearly seeing him. So I cannot see anyone other, and it just makes sense to put him alongside a George Russell. They don't want another teammate

that's going to rock the boat there or it's been very interesting that Mercedes how it's maybe a P1 extra chat but about George Russell and how they've sort of approached George Russell because he was like next in the throne and Toto's not really hidden the fact that he's like I want Max Osteappen, oh I can't get Maxer Stappen

I'm getting the new Maxis Stappan and George must be there like hello What about the new George Russell? I thought I was the I thought I was the golden boy. So, yeah. Yeah, I think Russell's, of course, you may be wondering that a little bit,

but it feels like he's quite level-headed and just as like, well, I'll just do my talking on the track and try and perform as best as I can. And obviously his current track record against Lewis Hamilton this year is quite something to behold. Although Hamilton, as we all know, has been quite vocal in the press about perhaps not having equal cars, which is actually insane and something that, you know, We probably need to dive into more if it continues to be spoken about. What about McLaren? So I'm going for Norris and Piastri.

I don't think either of them are getting sacked. I think that they're a great driver lineup. McLaren have hit the nail on the head with these two. They are willing to work together. I don't think Piastri has got any sort of ego compared to other drivers on the grid. He's happy to be driving for McLaren. Of course, maybe if he gets on par with Norris in race trim all the time,

then perhaps that will change. but for now, it's a beautiful lineup and they don't want to touch that. Indeed. I've gone for the same. This is such a good lineup. I think even if it's not necessarily the best lineup now, which I think you could argue that it still is definitely up there, in terms of like the fact that they've got youth on their side as well,

McLaren have hit the jackpot with these two. They work well together. They're both incredibly quick. There doesn't seem to be. any sort of animosity at the moment, whether there will be if they deliver a championship winning car. We saw what happened with, you know, like Ross Vergen-Hamilton, for example. But, no, this is such a good driver lineup,

and they will definitely stick with it. I could see these two staying at McLaren for years, personally. So could I. So could I. Let's go to Hasse then, Tommy. Who have you got? As Hasse, I have gone for a whole new lineup of Olly Behrman, and Esteban Ocon. Yes.

Ocon is kind of alluding the fact that he might have signed somewhere. There's not many seats left, so surely it's has. Whether I was, I mean, and a worrying about the fact that Magnuson might stay because he's been a very good teammate and the team do really like him, despite him being a bit chaotic. but I have gone that Ocon will play some I think that would be a very strong lineup for Huss to move forward

and quite an exciting lineup because maybe unfair because I do enjoy watching them both drive but I don't think Hasse have had particularly the most exciting driver lineups in their career and the way that Hasse have gone but I think a lineup of Ockon and Berman it's something like a complete refurb

fresh, new era, you know, they've got a new team principal. They're looking surprisingly good to what we all expected. And, yeah, Bearman obviously did a great job in Saudi and looks like he'll get promoted. So, yeah. Exciting times. I am going to lock in, Oliver Beerman, and Estebanok on. Correct. Done. Yes, I think that's going to happen. I think Magnuson, as much as he's liked, he's too chaotic for Hass. He really is. Gene's going to be like, come on, mate. Now, this has cost to me a lot of money, all of these dive bombs and crashing and all that sort of stuff. So I think that Bearman and Ockon would be a powerful lineup, a really good one. Olly Beerman is highly regarded. It's got a lot of potential. I think alongside O'Con,

I think O'Con will see that as an opportunity to try and lead to that team and be like, Oli, look, you just joined Formula One, relax, mate, you know, just follow my lead. Okay, stay behind me, but follow my lead. I feel like, obviously, with Ockon and any teammate, it can get a little bit spicy. So whether we'll see the non-polite and, oh, hi, my name's Olly Beerman, nice to meet you all, and it'll bring out, you know, the dog, then potentially.

The bear. It'll bring out the bear. I mean, that was so much better than dog man. So yes, I think that's the lineup for those two. So we shall see how that one unfolds. Ferrari. Tommy, who are you going for? I've gone for Sean Leclair and Lewis Hamilton.

Wow. No way. I thought you were going to joke that Leclair was getting dropped. I'm not going to lie to you. I knew. Well, I was tempted, but yeah, they've got that locked in and I know it's been months and months and we've still got months and months to wait before it happens but I don't want to wish away this season

because it's been really good but boy, am I looking forward to seeing Hamilton at Ferrari still doesn't feel real until I see him in those red overalls in the first race of the season. Yes, I surprisingly have gone for Hamilton and Leclair as well.

It is, without a doubt, sorry? Arthur or Charles. Shal, obviously. Don't start, you know, don't you start joking on my go, you know what I mean? Come on, you know that I back my boy till 2017.

Sir Hamilton and Leclair will stay at Ferrari. It is the strongest line-up on the grid, and it is such an exciting time to be a Ferrari fan, and I cannot wait. I'm exactly the same as you, Tommy. We've got quite an interesting 20-24 season, but 2025, I think, is going to be even more exciting. So I cannot wait for that.

Aston Martin. My two drivers are, of course, Fernando Alonzo, and this might all surprise you, but my second driver is Lawrence Stroll. Yes, that's correct. So Lawrence is going to kick his son out and be like, let me have a go. And actually, he's going to be pretty decent

and be on par with Fernando. Of course, Lance Stroll is actually, for those that don't detect sarcasm, it's going to be the second driver on the grid for Aston Martin, and it is a non-change. I have gone for Fernando Alonzo and

Chloe Stroll No I've gone for I've gone for Lardstroll of course There were moments where I thought Rumors were picking up that Lawrence wasn't particularly happy Stroll was performing incredibly bad as well wasn't he He had a decent run to be fair to him

recently but he was performing extremely poorly and I did wonder if it might be a case where Lawrence decides to sell the team on, make a big chunk of money gone well, I've given it a go. But I don't think he's going to sell up now. So stroll, yeah, staying on. It would be very interesting to see how that does develop, though,

with the likes of Honda coming in and being that works team, whether Alonzo does decide to stay on forever or if they try and get like a Yuki Sonoda in or something like that. Yeah, it could be fascinating, but for now, as normal, no surprise. And finally, Alpine, my two drivers for the 2025 grid are Pierre Gazley and Liam Lawson. I believe that with Red Bull deciding, no, Liam Lawson, you don't get a seat because Daniel Ricardo sells hats. that obviously he's had a good Canadian robbery as well, I'm only kidding. But I think that with Alpine they will see an opportunity to try and save a little bit of face

because there's been a lot of fires going on in Alpine recently and they need to sign someone exciting to get them back on track. And I think Liam Lawson will go, look, there is a, that potentially is a seat over there. I think Alpine will be very interested as well. And I know it is him leaving the Red Bull program, but I think he'll feel reasonably disrespected by the fact that he hasn't been given that opportunity despite coming in last minute and showing that he has got a lot of potential.

So yeah, I think that's an exciting sign that if Alpine can decide or persuade Liam Lawson that it isn't all just fires and of course alongside Pierre Gasly. So for Alpine and I'm between two drivers and I'm going to make the decision on the spot as I say it, Pierre Gasly and Jeuxneux. I know I initially had doing right and I don't know what you what you your thought process when you're doing these predictions

but I went through the entire grid and then Alpine was left at the end and I went who's going to go to Alpine I literally don't know and I think a lot of people would say the same we did a prediction of you know who's going to go there and doing i thought no probably not but now i'm like no i think he actually has quite a good chance and then joe i think it's i cannot believe it's between in my head and i really do genuinely

believe this it's between joe and doing and i think there's fine just spit at my uh prediction that's fine no worries yeah a lawson yeah it would be it'd be interesting if he went there like I hope that yours is right personally. No disrespect to the other two, but I think Lawson deserves a shot in Formula One. Joe Money Talks, there's a lot more to it, like we've said through many of these drivers, a lot more to it than just who's the best driver.

And boy, has Joe not delivered for absolutely ages now. So you think show would go back to the Renault Academy that he was pretty much... It's crazy because in... Yet all these musical chairs and the kind of crazy silly season, I just keep going to Alpine and I'm just like, I don't know. I really thought the, I was, I was so, not so convinced, but I was like, Yuki's perfect.

That would be such a good lineup if they wanted to go something a bit left field. But now he's signed on. It is a case of like, who do they go for, Mick Schumacher? probably not yeah he's driving for Alpin isn't he in Weck which he's got a slight bit

of a small glower of hope but maybe his experience has gone now it's been too long so would you rather risk Joe who's been in longer even though he's performing not badly Dewan's next in line Dewan could get it

just from the fact that he is a proper like the right place at the right time with a junior category. I just can't see it. I'm like 51% Joe, 49% doing personally. Wow, and 0% Mick. So the thing I would say is it would be for me, Alpine would think,

look, Joe is performing very badly. Why would we sign him? Of course, you say about the money things, which perhaps if that is what they need, then that will boost his chances. Duan, I just, I don't know, I can't see. see it happening. I genuinely can't. I think that he's just kind of there as a placeholder, which is sad to say because he's a really nice guy and clearly, you know, great PR trained and all

that sort of stuff. And he's always here there and everywhere. But for me, I think it would like be Lawson Schumacher, doing and then Joe for me. I just don't, I don't see it with, with Joe or doing. But hey, I've been wrong many times and I'm sure to be wrong again. Let us know in the comments because I think this is the most confusing one of the lot. Like this is a proper I say I'm 51% Joe, I'm more like 99.9%. I have no idea. And then of that 0.1%, it's show between Joe and doing.

And do you think as well, like it's a bit of a sad state of the junior series at the moment where, again, we're not seeing a particular driver just stand out from the crowd? And I feel like it's been like that. Obviously, we've got had Antonelli and there's been a lot of hype around that. but that's not really been because of his performance as an F2. And we haven't seen that for a few years now where someone's really stolen the headlines and we've had that excitement.

Yeah, it's so difficult to tell with F2 if they've all like, they've all kind of hit the ceiling where it is just really competitive and it's mixed, or you don't have that one standout drive that's absolutely amazing because I think the problem with Formula 2 is that, We really were spoiled in that era of Charlotte, Clair, George Russell, Lando Norris, where you could watch that and you just knew

100% that they were going to be in Formula One. There was no doubt. Whereas you look at Formula 2 now and I think every single name, yeah, yeah, definitely. I'm just looking at every single name. Other than Antonelli, who it's mainly just because of the fact that they hyped him so much and Toto's just like once in regardless. I would say I'm not even 50% sure any name there is going to get into Formula One. Like, I think there will be.

There will be people that will get into Formula One. But I couldn't go, yes, it's definitely them. Do you know what I mean? Like, I look at the names and it doesn't, there's no one where I'm just like, oh, yeah, 100% they're going in. I've just realized, Bearman's there. Berman. That's true. It feels like

Bamman's already sort of graduated in the sense that he's already driven in Formula 1 so he doesn't feel like an F2 driver but yeah maybe it does show

that these drivers need that opportunity because you can argue Lawson didn't I wouldn't have said like Lawson's the next big thing yet he came in did a good job

and then he was suddenly like the hype guy wasn't he and everyone thinking like he needs to drive for them but yeah it's going to be very fascinating what happens there. So in a nutshell, we have no idea. But let's know what your 2025 predictions are in the comments, if you're on YouTube or on social media.

And that is it. We are done. Next up will be the Spanish Grand Prix predictions. Tommy, what are your final thoughts? My final thoughts are that. I think you could ask me until the very last, second I still will have no idea who's going to Alpine. So just, I want to see some rogue choices for Alpine.

Okay. I think they'll just like spin a wheel in the factory and just go. What if they did a like a driver rotation program where like one driver gets a seat? I think they'd have to have a list of people that actually would want to drive for Alpine first if they were going to do that. Right, that is it. See you very soon. Lots of love and goodbye.

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