P1 with Matt and Tommy - Reacting to our 2023 F1 World Championship predictions
Episode Date: December 1, 2023Remember back in late February when we predicted the entire World Championship table? Well, we've dusted off those predictions and are here to set the record straight: who knows more wheel? Tickets fo...r our London and Glasgow live shows have now sold out. You can purchase the last few Manchester tickets right HERE!You can sign up to our Patreon here! You'll get access to exclusive episodes you won't hear anywhere else, every P1 episode ad-free, full driver interview videos, early access to tickets and more!Follow us on socials! You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Twitch, YouTube and TikTok. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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everybody and welcome back to the P-1 podcast with Matt and Tommy.
We are here today to reflect on our full Drivers' Championship predictions that we made all the way back in February, I want to say.
It was definitely before.
It was after testing, but before any running.
And we went all the way from 20th to 1st.
and we thought we were will-knowledging
and we're about to find out
exactly how much we will-knowledged, aren't we, Tommy?
Spoiler alert, it's difficult.
Yeah, even when we'd seen testing,
it shows that things did change of what we expected.
Are you telling me that testing isn't representative?
Are you telling me that two Formula One experts
would be an absolute miracle
if we got all 20 right?
And if we did, I would be a multi-millionaire because I'd have put on a massive accumulator bet.
Oh, imagine.
Imagine if you could do accumulator bet of the entire world championship
and then, like, loamy bear drops a P4 at the end to, like, break your accumulator.
Finish his 19th, no.
To be fair, if you'd have put 20th, you still would have got it wrong.
So anyway, how we're going to do this to make it a little bit more fun as well,
is that we're going to give points out to either myself or Tommy,
depending on how we do.
So it will be two points if we get the prediction bang on.
So the right position.
One point for who gets the closest between us.
And then we also get one point if it's a draw between us.
So that's how we'll sort of divide the points up.
So I'm very excited to see.
Because I actually have no idea who has won this.
So let's let's find out.
Starting with P22, which is Nick DeVries,
with a massive zero points.
Now I predicted P19.
which was, I thought, I mean,
I didn't think he was going to do that.
Well, this year that's why I predicted Daniel Ricardo
to replace him as one of my crazy predictions.
And that was, when did I say that?
I can't remember when I actually predicted that.
At the start the season before we'd even done any testing or anything.
That was.
But I thought P19, there must be someone,
a little Logie Bear that might finish behind him.
I didn't expect there to be 22 drivers.
So yes, P19.
and it wasn't low enough.
I went for P-17,
which is probably one of the furthest predictions off I am.
Oh, spoiler alert.
Even into, yeah, I imagine,
because that's a long way off.
Although, to be fair, I guess it's because there's two extra drivers
and you finish way down the order,
but I am stupid because I got baited.
I'm going to throw him under the bus right here.
I got baited by a video that I saw from Will Buxton,
where he was gassing up Nick DeVries
saying how he's so good and like,
so good at developing cars and things like that.
And he put so much work ethic in.
And I watched that video just before we did the predictions
and changed Yuki and DeVries the other way around.
Oh, yeah, you backed DeVries over your voice and under.
I didn't, yeah, I didn't in the teammate comparison one we did,
but then when we did this chart,
I did thinking like, oh, you'd be a bit more unlucky and maybe it would go Nick DeVries's
way, but it did not. He didn't score a single point and the only driver not score a single point.
So I get a point though, one nil to me. You do. One nil. Are we just going to write them
next to it? Sure. Or live tally. Are we doing admin whilst recording the podcast? Apparently we are.
Anyway, I thought I'm just going to say it out loud, but no worries.
21st position was Logan Sargent
with a whopping one single point
and I went for P20
because again I thought there was got to be 20 drivers this year
not 22
so I'm not even
I feel like that's right in a lot of ways
because I thought it was going to be
well actually technically Logan wasn't last due to Nick DeVries
but I guess he's the last in terms of
full season
attendees yeah I guess
But yes, P20, not sad about it because I feel like I was right.
Yes, I also went P20, no surprise at all, based on my predictions of the season.
Although, I guess you could argue that he did worse than I expected because I would, I was only saying P20 because I thought Williams were going to be far and away the worst car.
And I think it's clear from the season and how well Alex did that that is not the case.
but he still didn't score many points
and I guess my P20 prediction of joking about that
at the start of the season,
someone clearly saw that from the F-1 graphics department
when they overlaid that savage graphic
of his qualifying results in Vegas, the poor guy.
Yep, but then he bounced back, didn't he?
He bounced back in 40.
Before another P-20 and Epidavit.
Yeah, well, look, no more slander, mate.
He's finished P-21.
That is enough for him to have to have to have to
absorb over the off season and potentially into
2024, but we will have to wait and see for when
Williams finally announced whether they are
keeping him or not. So 2-1 to me.
P-20, a driver that neither of us predicted
because neither of us thought he would be in Formula 1.
Liam Lawson, who scored two points, which is not
applicable, but just want to say congratulations to Liam
to making it into the top 20, beating
two drivers in the Drivers' Championship,
despite only doing a handful of races.
So yes, well done, Liam.
Well done, Liam indeed.
Cool.
P-19.
Kevin Magnerson, with a whopping three points.
I went for P-16.
I thought that it was going to go a lot better for Hasse than it did.
And I wasn't foreshadowing as many tyre problems in the races as they had.
And yeah, I thought P-16 was maybe a little bit harsh.
could have a few Hasse worldies, especially at the start of the year.
That's when we are used to HASS coming out the blocks firing
and then having no money to do anything else after the start of the season.
But no, terrible. P19.
I went for P14. I was even more generous.
And I thought something similar that Hasse would be a better car.
They did actually look all right in preseason testing,
but we didn't know in preseason testing that
They couldn't do more than two racing laps without destroying their tires.
So that was their downfall all season.
And I think, yes, definitely overestimated how good Hasse would have been based on how they were the year before,
where of course Kevin Magnuson was like the star of the show at the start of the season
when he was battling up at the front for like fifth place, I think it was in the first race.
But not this time.
Not this time indeed.
and I take a really healthy 3-1 lead after P-19.
P-18 was Joe Guan Yu with six points.
And I went for P-14, as my prediction.
I thought Alfa-Mayo would be, again, better than they were.
I thought Joe was going to be better than he was.
But instead, I think we literally saw,
similar to the Hass and how many laps the tyres lasted on that car,
the amount of racing laps we actually saw of Joe the entire season.
We hardly ever saw him actually racing.
The Alpha Romeo boys lost in transmission, it seems.
But yes, 14th, and Joe let me down.
I went for slightly lower P15.
So one point.
I'm back in the race.
I'm back in the race.
But yeah, I didn't expect Alpha Romeo to be.
any good. I didn't expect them to be this bad, though. They, of course, did very well in the championship
the previous year. But, yeah, Joe in particular, like you say, was just so anonymous the whole year.
And I actually, a spoiler alert, I actually predicted him ahead of Bottas in my predictions,
which didn't happen, but I still was closer, just about. You nip to point.
Congratulations, Tommy.
Three, two.
P17, Daniel Ricardo, again, another driver that,
well, actually I predicted, but we didn't throw into this
because we were just predicting the drivers
that were supposed to have full-time seats.
But he finished with six points as well.
And so great to see Danny Rick back on the calendar, on the racing circuit.
You know, he's back in Formula One.
Didn't expect it to be so early.
But of course, Red Bull doing Red Bull things
and throwing one of their drivers to the sharks
and were like, Danny Rick, come back.
And then obviously he injured himself,
then Liam Lawson came in,
then Danny Rick came back again.
But yes, it's great to see Danny back.
And P17, had he started at the start of the year,
would I have put him 17th?
Probably not.
I would have been on the hype train at that point.
Yes, you've got to think,
if Daniel Ricard had done the whole year,
I think he would have been,
there or thereabouts with Sonoda,
maybe his experience puts him,
a little bit higher than Snowden,
and bags a few more points,
but it's very close between him and his teammates,
and we didn't, like I mentioned,
in our driver ratings,
we didn't really get to see the full Danny Rick
because it was such a stop, start campaign for him twice, essentially.
So looking forward to seeing what he can do next year.
P-16, Nika Holcomberg, with nine points,
and I predicted him P-15.
Because I thought Hasse and Nika Holcomberg,
we're going to be okay but still reasonably washed
and Nico delivered that.
I feel like 16th in the Drivers' Championship
is incredibly harsh for Nico,
considering a lot of his qualifying performances over the year
but as we mentioned previously in our podcast,
it just, if it ended on a Saturday,
Hasse would have had a lot of points,
but that's not how it works
and Charlotte-Clair would have had five wins this year as well.
So we won't get into that,
but Nico 16th, and I went for P-15,
so I'm quite happy with how close I was with that.
Clearly, I thought points were given out for Saturday because I predicted him P's wealth.
You were on the Hulk hype train, I remember.
Because I thought Haas would do exactly what we were saying before with K-Mag,
come out the blocks firing, and I thought Holcomberg, which to be fair, he did,
like would smash K-Mag and be able to deliver points.
but that car was never there to do it
other than one chaotic end to the Australian Grand Prix
and of course the sprint race
which everyone pitted in anyway
so yeah I was way off with that one.
4-2 to Gallagher versus Bellingham
as we go to P-15 Vantry Bottas
with 10 points
and speaking of hype trains
I was on a botas hype train
and I was feeling so smug after Barrow
rain. I was like, yeah, Tommy, how dare you disrespect the goat that is Valtry Bottas? And then from
there on, he didn't score hardly any points whatsoever in the rest of the season. So I'm going to
apologise to Valtry fans out there because I feel like that might have been my fault. But yes,
10th did not happen. Yeah, I think you owe me an apology as well because I got absolutely
you've roasted for picking him P-16, which was only one away.
Annoyingly, if I'd backed him over Jure, I would have got it bang on.
But I didn't, I wasn't on the Alpha Hype train.
I thought they were going to struggle and I just couldn't see them improving.
And that is exactly what happened.
They were absolutely awful by the end of the year.
And it's going to be fascinating to see how they improve up the grid or if they are just
settled until it's kind of like savers Audi.
We'll be good then and we don't care now.
We'll see.
Yeah, I don't think it's quite as easy as just changing a logo and being like,
oh, we're quick now.
No.
We'll see how that one goes.
4-3 then.
P-14.
Yuki Sanoda with 17 points.
I predicted him P-17.
I didn't believe in the Yuki Al-Tauri combination, mainly more of the Al-Fatari.
I just thought it would be pretty terrible.
and I thought Yuki would do a little bit better than Nick DeVries.
The only person on this podcast that thought Yuki would do better than Nick DeVries.
And yeah, it wasn't very close, but...
I went for P-18.
Thank you. I'm glad you got the cue there. Well done.
Yeah. To be fair, I'm not 100% sure where Yuki was in the championship table,
but he was languishing around 17th, 16.
I think towards the end because of course they didn't score many points at all until right at the end
and Yuki was there banging in P11 after P11 and we're thinking this guy's having quite a good season
and not scoring any points so he was actually quite low down the table but then a few good
results at the end shot him all the way up to P14 and yeah I thought that Alphateri would be
the second worst car after Williams which proved to be slightly wrong.
It was right, as you say.
It was right for quite a long time.
Alfa and Hass just decided that they don't even want to compete anymore and just plummeted.
Fair.
P-13, Alex Albon, scoring 27 points.
And he really did, he really did say to us, how dare you?
How dare you not believe in me?
Because I went for 18th position, which, you know, you think five places out.
That's a long way.
surely Tommy's not going to be further away than five places.
Isn't that right, Tommy?
I went for P-19 for Alex Alburn.
I really did think Williams were going to be, well, yeah,
the worst car by a considerable margin.
And this was not me disrespecting Alex Alburn.
I guess it maybe was thinking he couldn't deliver in a rubbish car.
But I don't think that car is rubbish.
And that's why I'm kind of like Logan did worse.
than I predicted because he has actually delivered that kind of result in a car,
which Alex has proved is pretty decent now.
But I'm very glad to see it because, yeah, it's really good that Alex has turned his season around
and we'll see what Williams can do.
Maybe they are on the way up with the James Vow's hype train and they're going to be even better next year.
Who knows?
Yeah, I think we should do like a predicting about team principles and,
you know, top 10 because I'm putting JV right at the top.
P1.
I'm a James Vowles hype enthusiast.
Okay, 6-3.
The gap is extending as we go to P12.
Esteban Ocon with 58 points.
I predicted in P9.
I thought Esty Besti was going to have a better year
when it comes to actual point scoring accomplishments.
You know, he occasionally pops up on the podium,
has a little big points all here and there.
but I don't feel too bad
because Tommy went even worse
I did
and by even worse
I went even better
for Esty Bestie
and put in P8
and the logic behind that
was of course
that Alpine actually looked pretty good
after preseason testing
and he had a fantastic year
the year before
of course he finished ahead of Fernando Alonzo
his teammate
yes
sorry, Alonzo had the worse luck.
But, you know, I thought Esty Besty would be on a high
and Alpine were looking very good.
They were obviously ahead of, looked quicker than McLaren
when McLaren were in their terrible phase.
But then as soon as McLaren got better,
they just were in absolute no man's land
where they were just, they didn't have anyone to race
and they just were the definition of mid.
And that's exactly where they finished.
in the championship.
Let me just,
let me open my dictionary
and the definition of mid
is right there actually.
Alpi,
a picture,
it would have a picture
of the 2023 Alpi.
Apart from the times
when you biggest flopped them
and then they became
a world championship winning car.
So, well done for that one.
Okay, 7.3 now.
Getting some serious daylight
between the two of us here.
P-11, Pierre Gazley,
with 62 points.
And here we go.
Because Matt Gallagher
comes in with P-11.
Yes, yeah.
Is that the first one?
That's the first bang-on prediction of the podcast so far,
which shows, I don't know if that shows how washed we are
or how good we are, I don't know,
because some of them have been close.
Either or, it's funny, because we,
I predicted P-11 for Gassley,
but I predicted P-9 for Ocon,
thinking that Gassley would do worse than Ocon,
and in fact it was the other way around,
and I've somehow managed to accidentally fall upon the correct
prediction for Pierre Gasly.
So that takes me to nine points now, Tommy.
What did you go for?
I did exactly the same thing.
I went for P11,
and it is exactly the same reasoning
where I thought Alpine would be pretty good
and Gassley would flop,
and then somehow he's beaten his teammate,
and it's got my prediction in.
So thank you, Gansley,
for proving me wrong and finishing P11.
I was going to say it takes me to nine points.
It doesn't.
If it's a draw, we get one point each, right?
Or two points each.
Two points each because it's a draw.
It's a draw, but we both got it.
Bang on.
Okay, I didn't say that at the top of the show, though, Tommy.
That's confusing for people carrying a lot.
Okay, all right, 9-5, Ben.
All right, here we go.
P-10, Vant Stroll, with 74 points.
I went for P-13, which, I don't know.
I felt like that was, I was onto something there,
and without his, you know, he,
got a few points finishes towards the end of the year.
I feel like I might have been still on for something around that.
But instead, Lance decided to actually turn up to work sometimes and scored some points.
And we also did not predict the Aston Martin to be anywhere near as quick as it was.
So, yes, P13, not too far away.
I predicted P10.
Get in.
Huge.
And, yeah, finally, back in the game.
and I got it spot on really
because I said the Astor Martin would be good
but Lance Stroll would be Lance Stroll
and that's why I'd be 10th
which is exactly what happened in the season
you know who's way off Fernando Alonzo
in terms of points
and yeah just got lucky with the old P-10
thinking that's a bit of a Lance Stroll position
in a good car and it was
didn't think I reckon if you knew
the Aston Martin pace you wouldn't have put in P-10
and I would definitely not have put in P-13
had we seen Alonzo's run a form at the start.
Would you put him a little bit higher, do you reckon?
Yes, yes, because I actually remember thinking
that I'd put him,
I remember actually thinking as well,
like his injury was going to screw this championship
and Trugovic would come in
and it's crazy to think that now.
But no, he did carry on
and actually did quite good with his injury.
and then he fell off later on.
97 then.
Going to P9, Oscar Piastri,
or as you've spelt in this sheet,
Oscar Piari.
Do enjoy an occasional Tom Bellingham typo.
There's not even one letter missing.
I don't even know why.
97 points for Oscar Pastery.
I predicted in P12,
which I feel disgusted about
because I was actually hyping him up
going, he is going to be a talent,
he's going to be really quick.
I believe in Oscar
coming into this rookie season
and to be honest with you
again, how McLaren came out the blocks
I probably felt like P12 was too high
considering how slow they were
at the start of the year
but then by the end they were like
no, we're going to challenge for wins
because that's just McLaren
I think pretty much two years in a row
in terms of that trajectory
of slow at the start
and then getting quicker
but yeah, what a rookie season for Oscar
and I'm glad that he's got higher
than what I predicted.
I went for P13
so one lower
and yes
that that logic was because
McLaren had an absolute
stinker in
in preseason testing as well
they looked awful
and yeah I remember thinking like
oh that's you know that's way low down
but I just did not believe that
and I think to be fair
there had been a lot of people
that were just I don't think anyone
apart from Mickahackan could have predicted
the resurgence that
McLaren had because it was literally like from back markers to Lando Norris taking the lead
at the British Grand Prix like how on earth did that happen? I still don't really understand but
I watched that clip back. Yeah, Oscar did well in the end. I watched that clip back the other day
and just the cheer, the roar. I've never heard anything like that when Lando took the lead at the
British Grand Prix the most unbelievable captured TV moment or just being there but like the
the mics that picked it out was crazy.
It was awesome.
But yeah, Oscar had a great season, really.
I think he'll do it even better next year
because he started off a bit slow.
I think that's why his points deficit is so much to Lando
and there were a few races where he struggled with tire wear.
But, yeah, looking forward to now he's got that rookie season under his belt
and a win, a sprint win, which is very impressive.
Yeah, looking forward to seeing what he can do next year.
He's a race winner.
P-9 in the championship.
10-7.
I am now in the lead three points
as we go to P8.
George Russell
with a whopping 175 points,
a big chasm of points
between Russell and Pastery
from P8 and P9.
I predicted P-6
and I expected Mercedes
to be a little bit better
than they were.
Well, actually, no.
I think it was more
I expected George to do a little bit better
than perhaps he did,
especially coming off the back of last year
he was showing some real signs of potential, of course, winning in Brazil,
and just generally scoring a lot of points.
Hamilton, of course, was going through that big development phase with the car
and trying lots of different risky setups,
which were causing him to have some pretty poor results.
But George was shining in his own right.
But this year was a step down, I think, in some ways.
And, yeah, P8 sort of showcases that.
And my prediction of P6 did not pay off.
I also went for P6.
My logic for this prediction of P6 was that I thought Ferrari and Mercedes were going to be the second and third best teams, which they were and very close between the two of them.
So I got that right, but I didn't get right.
Sorry, mate.
No, no, no, no, I'm not trying to claim.
I don't know if you were teeing yourself up there.
It depends.
If it gets to like 138 with a few to go, maybe I will.
Michael Massey this one as well, yeah.
Yeah.
But no, George, I didn't expect him to have as bad of a season as he had.
I mean, you look at the points, actually.
It's not a million miles away from that big group of four drivers
that were battling out for P4 in the title in the end.
But by his high standards, it wasn't the greatest of seasons.
And yeah, I just basically didn't predict that two drivers that,
weren't driving a Red Bull, a Mercedes or a Ferrari would do very special things
and get into that top mix of drivers in the championship.
How dare you? How dare you not think Fernando Alonzo would be getting so many podiums
and Alaston Martin? shocking. Okay, it's 118 then. As we go to P7, Carlos Sines with 200 points.
And I predicted Carlos P4 in the championship. I was very much sipping on that Ferrari
hype P2
fastest car
or second fastest car
and they were
in some ways
but Carlos
was just on the wrong end
and he was P4
going into Abu Dhabi
and this would have been
a sensational little
prediction
but instead it's P7
and it looks terrible
but he was six points
off of getting it
so I am not too
sad about it
I went for
P5
so just one lower
and is closer.
This could have gone,
is actually crazy how close P7, 6, 5 and 4 are in the championship.
You know, 6 points separating 4 and how it changed so much.
Like you say, like Carlos was leading that gangle of cars going into that final bit.
But yeah, had a absolutely shocking end of the season and dropped all the way.
way down to seventh.
But yeah, I predicted in P5 thinking that Ferrari would be a good car
and challenging for like P2, P3 in the title, which did happen, but didn't get
car loss right, unfortunately.
Okay, it is 11-9 though.
It doesn't matter that you didn't get it right because you close the gap, Tommy, as we go to
P6.
Lando Norris with 205 points.
I predicted in P8.
shocking, really.
I can't believe I didn't think McLaren were going to be as good as Lando was as good as he was.
But what a season for Lando.
He definitely could have secured P4 had there been a few mistakes ironed out in qualifying.
But apart from that, unbelievable from him to help thrust McLaren forward.
And I went for P8 not thinking that McLaren would be able to be challenging Max Verstappen.
And if anything, our hopes were with them towards the end of the season to,
actually challenge and give us a fight at the front.
So yeah, I'm happy for Landau that it's higher than what I predicted.
And you can guarantee I'm not putting in P8 next year.
Yeah, same.
I went for P9.
So I predicted that he'd do even worse, which until we got to Austria,
I think you'd have safely thought that I'd be getting the points here.
But no, their resurgence was unbelievable.
and Lando was only, yeah, two points, or technically one, I think,
because he would have had most second places,
off one point off finishing P4 in the title
and making this prediction look absolutely terrible.
But, yeah, his very much had a season of two halves
where not a great start, and I bet he was probably around 10th, 11th,
if that in the championship, actually.
I think he was really low down at one point
where he was constantly finishing like 17th
and having break problems and all sorts.
But as soon as that car got good,
Lando showed what he can do
and popped into a well-deserved six,
but I think it could have been even better from him, to be honest.
12-9 as we go to P5,
Charles LeClaire with 206 points.
And I went to P3
because I'm actually looking back at myself
and thinking,
I'm proud of you, Matt, for not going crazy with this prediction,
because I could have been in serious trouble had I been drinking on that delusion potion.
But I went for P3 because I genuinely thought that was possible.
And, yeah, Mercedes, especially Hamilton, just delivered so consistently throughout the year.
And Ferrari were kind of up and down and sometimes really quick
and sometimes terrible in the race.
and yeah,
Charlotte Claire had a bit of bad luck as well
and he finished P5.
But yeah,
I'm just more proud of myself
that I didn't put P1.
Well done that.
I also went P3 for Charlotte Claire
thinking that
yeah, Ferrari would have a very quick car
but not as good as Red Bull
and that's exactly what happened
because they just missed out on P2 in the championship.
And yeah,
Shal had a good season
but there were moments where
I mean it looked like
Shal was going to finish maybe even seventh in the championship
It went into Aditya
fourth didn't he?
Yeah exactly so it was
it kind of all changed at the end
and I'm really annoyed
because you're getting away
1310 now
getting away what would you mean?
I mean I haven't got away
any more since Lando's.
Yeah, true.
I'm not closing.
I'm not closing.
I know what's next as well.
We're not closing in.
So 1310 as we go to P4, Fernando Alonzo.
Also with 206 points.
And I predicted in P7.
Now, I don't know why I did.
I feel like I sort of latched onto your hype at this point.
Remember, we'd had preseason testing at this point.
So we knew Aston were actually really good.
Yeah.
I guess that's true.
Then also there's that doubt in your mind
about how true is testing
and so on and so forth.
And of course we do our predictions
away from each other and we come and record.
It's not like we go,
oh, so who are you going to put seventh?
Yeah.
So yeah, I went with P7
and it could have,
may have, should have been,
six points away, you know,
it was very, very close.
But instead, Fernando,
securing an unbelievable,
unfathomable P4
in the driver's championship
in a car that finished seventh in the constructors the previous year.
Go on Fernando.
Well done.
I also went for P7 for Fernando Alonzo.
Couldn't have possibly thought he'd finish higher than that.
Of course, like I said, this was after testing.
I actually predicted, as we know from our predictions at the start of the year
before we saw any testing and got laughed at for predicting that Alonzo would be best of the rest.
And this was my like, I think he would be best of the rest.
but my best of the rest was Red Bull, Ferrari and Mercedes and then and then everyone else and he'd pop it in P7.
But no, P4 like unbelievable.
But it did look like actually that like you say that he was going to end up P7 because the Aston really did fall off at the end of the year.
And the cars that and the drivers that finished behind him, LeClein, Norris and Science had very quick cars at the end of the year.
but somehow Fernando Alonso bagged that P4,
it's almost like he's the greatest of all time.
Had to get it in there.
But yeah, P4 in the championship,
when you're, I know his teammates, Lance Stroll,
but when it's fifth in the constructors is damn impressive
and showed that he was, a lot of the time,
was just over delivering in that car.
And I think his consistency was the most impressive thing about the year,
those podiums at the start,
the fact that he was just banging,
him in it all the time was so good.
I feel like your passion for Fernando actually outweighs mine for
Shal on this podcast. I'm not going to lie to you.
There's a lot of just sneaky little big phrases
that you just throw into the mix about Fernando.
It's, yeah, I'm enjoying it.
Keep it up, mate. We'll see if he can challenge next year.
And I hope he can.
I hope it's a Fernando Alonzo, Shal LeCla, Max Verstapp and World Title Fight
just to see your own brain figure out who you want.
to win and it would definitely be Fernando so I don't know why I'm even saying that but yes I can't wait
I hope Aston just spent 12 billion next year and actually just fight and spend even more than he did
yeah I'm worried I can't wait for the cost cap 1411 as we head to P3 Tommy needs a miracle
and Lewis Hamilton 234 points I predicted P5 didn't think Mercedes would be a
as quick as Ferrari.
And arguably, I think Hamilton's performances were the difference here rather than the car itself.
His teammates kind of shown where he could have ended up, had it not been for some incredibly
well-executed races over the year.
So yeah, well done, Hamilton.
You did better than what I expected.
Same for me, but I did P4.
So just one higher.
I've got a point, 144 points you've written in the seat.
hopefully not
and yeah
I mean
Hamilton like you say
he
I don't think
P3 is a fantastic
result
because I don't think
the Mercedes
was even though
they finished
second in the
constructors
they weren't
anywhere near far
clear
in that
constructor's title
and as it's 1412
I am
banking on
you predicting
Sergio Perez
to win
the title
I was about
to say that
I was like
with two left
have I
actually
But accidentally put Perez as the World Drivers Champion and thrown away the easiest victory of my life.
Well, let's go to P2, Sergio Perez, with 285 points.
And yes, I did indeed secure him as runner-up, P2 in the Drivers' Championship,
which didn't look like it was potentially going to happen with all of the qualifying performances.
Hamilton closing in, then of course it sort of swung very aggressively
after Hamilton got disqualified in Austin
and the dream was over for Hamilton to finish runner up.
But yes, Perez, we've nailed it P2
and that's a bang on performance.
Has Tommy also gone for Perez P2?
Yes, I have.
And our logic was spot on here.
After testing, we were all a little bit worried
that the Red Bull would be very, very, very, very, very, very, very quick.
And it sure was, obviously, having that record-breaking season
where only one other team won a race.
And, of course, you'd be absolutely crazy to predict
that Perez would beat Max over a championship.
But, of course, at the start of the season,
there was that talk of Can he do a Rosberg
when Max had that failure in Saudi.
That talk was coming out of your.
or mouse, sir.
That was my pessimistic brain thinking like,
Sergio could just finish second every race and then win the ones that Max
retires in and be fine,
but instead,
yeah,
he dropped off quite significantly during the season and then had a decent end to
easily wrap up P2 in the end.
It's crazy to look at the points and actually think that it was ever in doubt
and there was so much talk of like Paris isn't somehow going to finish P2
because he so easily did it in the end.
And yeah, P2, Sergio Paris.
Okay, then.
Everybody hold on to their horses.
Have I accidentally predicted a driver transfer
and a new world champion?
Nick DeVries.
Yes, maybe.
Here we go then.
P1, Max Verstappen, 575 points.
It's 1614.
And I went for P1, which was bang on.
Thank God.
I literally came into this thinking,
God, did I put Charlotte Claire first?
Did I put Charlotte Claire first?
I couldn't remember.
And I'm so glad.
Well done past me.
I'm congratulating myself right now
because I knew for these kind of things,
I've just got to lock in what I actually think
rather than what I really wish for.
So yes, P1, Max Verstappen,
and let's tick off the bingo card.
What else is there to say?
Because Max Verstappen, 575 points,
double Sergio Perez,
and he is inevitable, hence why I put in P1 as well.
well. Yeah, I've also gone P1, Max Verstappen. We did a good job again to say that we'd just do our
random predictions. We've been very close with all of them this year. That was another close,
close fought contest. Congratulations. But well done. You've won again. Enjoy the money.
Yeah, I, of course, you'd have been crazy not to back Max after the end of the year he had. And then
it was quite clear from, I know you can't normally tell in testing, but there was a lot of talk
from testing that's like, oh, Red Bull are really quick, like really, really quick. And of course,
even, which is crazy to think about now, there was that whole Bahrain curse and like, oh,
Max has won the first race. No one ever wins the first race and goes on to win the title,
but he is inevitable and he just walked it after that initial. It wasn't even,
even a blip after his pathetic two seconds from four races,
where one was a failure in qualifying
and the other was a badly time safety car.
He just went on an absolute mad one,
and then it was only Singapore that he didn't win.
So, yeah, easy dub for Max.
Absolutely outrageous from Max.
Well done.
And an easy dub for me, 1816 in the end.
Never in doubt.
So thank you, Tommy.
Thank you, everybody, for watching and listening to our reaction to the 20th to first
Drivers' Championship predictions.
We'll, of course, do it next year as well, see if we can improve on our scores.
Tommy, what are your final thoughts, sir?
Final thoughts are, I hope you enjoy all of us reacting to our washed opinions and stuff.
And we will go through the bold predictions that we made.
at the halfway stage and also reflect a little bit on the ones we made at the start of the season as well.
Because I know we already reflected them at the halfway stage. We can finalise them as well.
And one thing I really want to do, which I'll get in the sheet and we can reflect on,
is I'm going to make a little table, and we'll probably turn it into a social clip as well,
but your biggest flop and see what happened to them in every race.
Yes. We have to look at that in our predictions, like,
reflection and see what actually happened because my god if you didn't have biggest flab i probably
would have won our predictions by about 20 points because that just got you just got that point every
single time it's so true yeah i can't wait to do that that might even be its own its own podcast
or video i'm not sure but we'll uh we'll have a look and see but thank you everybody we'll see you very
soon hope you're surviving without formula one we're trying to and we'll keep you entertained as much we
possibly can and we'll see you soon bye
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