P1 with Matt and Tommy - Reacting to our 2025 Championship table predictions (20th to 1st)

Episode Date: December 10, 2025

In another titanic battle between your two favourite podcast hosts, it's time to see who more accurately predicted the entire 2025 F1 grid before we'd had a single race!A real selection of good, bad and ugly picks to contend with in this one...Please vote for us in the Autosport Awards 2026! https://www.autosport.com/awards-voting/Sign up to our Patreon! You'll get access to every P1 episode ad-free, extended versions of every 2026 race review, early access to tickets & merch, and access to our Discord server where you can chat with us and other F1 fans! Click here to sign up now: http://patreon.com/mattp1tommyFollow us on socials! You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Twitch, YouTube and TikTok. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello everybody and welcome back to another P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. Wow, you have been spoiled these last few months with triple headers and just general random news and things like that. There's been a lot of podcasts. And we got another one today and it's a big one. This is massive, slightly less massive than the predictions championship by one by one. point, but this one, unless I win, then, you know, the whole thing, it clears you the whole thing. But this one is, of course, reacting to what we predicted at the start of the season after testing, but before the first race, where we went from 20th all the way

to first. Of course, there has been more than 20 drivers, I know. And we are going to essentially react to each place and assign points. So the rules are you get two points. You get two points if you have predicted that said driver to be in exactly the same position as where they ended up. So for example, I put Jack Dewan as 21st. I didn't. And Jack Dewan ended up 21st. That's two points. It's one point for who gets closest. If we didn't get it bang on, but one of us is closer than the other. And so I think some of these will be so far out. And so we're going to get a point. And it's also a point each if we went for the same thing. So it's a draw. Okay. Is that everything, Tommy?

That is correct. What to add is this, I always enjoy looking back on this because we laugh at our predictions that we made before testing, which is obviously even harder, but looking at how much this season has changed. And if you could go back and tell me like the pecking order that everyone believed after the first test a certain team in pink and blue in particular is almost laughable. So it's going to be fun looking back on this. It certainly is. So we'll reflect on why we predicted said drivers to be in the first place, basically, you know, give our thoughts of what we felt at the start. And then

react to where they ended up. So let's begin with 21st Jack Dewan. So I predicted Jack Dewan To finish 18th in the world championship. Too high. Too high because we expected another team to be even slower. And I also expected, well, did I? I don't know. Actually, what am I thinking? Because I thought he was going to get binned off.

I think we both did. I know what you're thinking because I was the same. Alpine. They were good. Yeah, we thought maybe he'd score a point or two and it would be more than another team that would score nothing. That's not what happened. And, yes, 18th was my position for Jack.

I went for 17th position. Yes, he's on the board. A point for Matt. Let's end it there. 1-0. G-G-Gs, game over. Not competitive at all is Matt. Oh, yeah.

I accept that. I am competitive. You say you're not until you're losing. Yeah, fair. Jack Dewin, my word, my logic was, I think, the same as yours. and something I mentioned at the start of this podcast, Alpine were predicted to be very strong after testing. We saw Ghazly have an amazing end to the season of 24,

which is such a, feels like forever ago, because of course we now know they're comfortably the worst. And my logic here, and I think yours was maybe similar, was Jack Dewan was always doomed, it seemed, to be replaced by Colopinto. You kind of knew that was going to happen. But it felt like their car was so strong. He's going to get two, three, four points here and there, and a certain Kiksalba team,

who we thought was going to be rubbish, would score nothing, and it would still be enough. And alas, that didn't happen. He didn't score any points, and he's 21st on the list. At least he's not 24th or something like we saw last year with all the replacements. Yes, so there you go.

1-0 to me as we head to 20th finishing in the World Championship It was Franco Colapinto, and neither of us mentioned his name because he wasn't on the grid. So, not applicable, no points given out here because he did not exist. We did exist. We didn't exist in the realm of the 20th, the first, when we made these predictions. Indeed. So, yeah, non-applicable, Franco, we didn't know. Well, we kind of did know he was going to be in an F-1, but we didn't want to complicate things.

by doing a 24 race table and going, this driver would be replaced by this driver, and then you're putting like Formula 2 drivers in that didn't even compete and stuff. It would just make no sense. Just like probably our 2026 driver lineups that we made a few years ago. Yeah, exactly.

I'm going forward to reflecting on at some point. Let's head to 19th in the standings was Gabrielle Bortoletto. I predicted him to be 20th. And he did not finish 20th. You finished 19th. Tommy, what did you go for? I went for 19th. It's a two-pointer.

And my word, is this a task failed successfully? You are the luckiest man alive. This is the luckiest point because if you watch the original video and we'll get on to where his teammate finished in the championship, this was an incredibly bold prediction and a hot take that I thought Bortoletto would beat Holkenberg in the championship. I thought he'd be a lot better than people expected. and I, my logic here was that Salba were going to score zero points, hence why Jack

Dewan was also higher up than, than I thought. Salba did not score zero points. They scored 70, which is insane. If you'd said that at the start of the year, that's one of the wildest predictions I think of all. And I said that basically they're both going to be last and a bit like Joe Guanyu last year, all it takes is one good result, Annie Pips Holkenberg. And And instead, he just finished 90th, anyway, and I got the two points. We love to see it. Yeah, no, I don't love to see it. Don't you wangling a wee there.

That's a you love to see it. But well done, Tommy. I mean, sorry, I'm not competitive. I don't love to see it. Whatever. Yeah, whatever. You don't care. 2.1 to you, Tommy.

As we head to 18th in the World Championship was Pierre Gassley. Pierre Gassley, I predicted, in 10th place. very high up insane to think that yeah 10th for Gasly I thought it'd be so much better we've already said that we thought Alpine

would be a lot stronger I think yeah we'll get on to yours both predicted him quite high up based on what we saw from testing and he had an amazing end to 24 but of course did not have the machinery to compete which is why I was nowhere near and I was even further nowhere near I went for 9th for

Yeah, Gassley, because why would he finish 18th after the performances he'd been putting down in previous seasons? That feels basically like I've put him as world champion, being that high, considering where he's ended up. So, Tommy, congratulations. You have scored another point. 3-1. 3-1 up. 17th in the World Championship was Yuki Sonoda. And he had an entire season bar two races at Red Bull, and I predicted. him 13th. But this was a 13th. In a V-car, which absolutely would have happened, or better, had he not been promoted, demoted. So I feel fully robbed as you go to your prediction for where you put Yuki Sanoda, Tommy. I put Yuki Sanoda in 15th place. What a joke. Another point. It's for one.

That's ridiculous. It is a joke. It should be about 3-2 to me right now. It's absolutely crazy. Again, we predicted this as where he'd finish for V-Cub. I thought V-Cub were going to be pretty poor. V-Cube was so good. And V-Cab were great. It's got 92 points. They finished six. And my thinking here was that V-Cub weren't going to be that good,

but Yuki would still have a decent season in a V-Cub because it's had a great end to last year and looked quick. But instead, like, wow, crazy to think that he spent so much of that time at Red Bull. and finished the championship in 17th. He did indeed. So Tommy, you are 4-1-up. Congratulations. I hope you're happy with the money.

Let's head to 16th in the World Championship. It was Lance Stroll. And I predicted Lance Stroll in 60th place. Oh, come on! Unbelievable. And I think, correct me if I'm wrong, that kind of was changing towards the end of the season as well. it was. He pipped Yuki Sanoda, actually, at the end, which changed the game.

No. So that's even worse because I went for 17th. Yeah, there we go. So, he was 17th. So him getting that. No, in the last lap. Yeah, the last lap. The last lap. I'm so robbed right now. There was a two-point swing in the championship. I can't be bothered. Do we have to do any more? I don't want to. I'm losing count.

6-1, well done. What am I on? I'm losing count. Yeah, so Lance Stroll's 16th. Should have been 17th if it wasn't for the last lap. Goat, Ayrton, Senamu from Lansdral around the outside of Olly Bearman, whatever. Okay, 15th in the World Championship is Esteban Ockon. I predicted Esty Besty to finish.

15th, we're back. We're so back. We're so back. It's an absolute on the money, on the nose, 2.5. pointer unless, Tommy, who have you predicted, or where have you predicted Esteban Ockon to be? I predicted Esty Besty to be 12th. Yeah, get in the bin.

Get in the bin. 6.3. 6.3. You're back. Esty Besty, yeah, I thought would have a really strong year. And he did. He was looking, I think, halfway through the season. He was, like, in the top 10 just because of the fact that he'd had these unbelievable performances

where he got like a fifth place in a few races and propelled him up the order. and I was thinking, oh, I've kind of accidentally cooked here, but instead tumbled down the order, and here we are with Esty Besty. Indeed, yeah. I don't really know why I felt. I think I just felt that Hasse weren't going to be that great, but I backed Olly Berman to beat him,

and that's kind of where it sat. It wasn't really the fact that I thought Esteban would have a poor season, and there was no chance I thought this was coming in after the first few races where he'd bagged an outrageous amount of points, but then it just really fell off towards the end. end for him, apart from obviously a great performance in Abu Dhabi. 14th in the World Championship,

Liam Lawson. And I went for 8th place. And I remember this 8th place being a very controversial opinion. How on earth is he in a Red Bull going to finish 8th? Well, actually, he's scored no points in the Red Ball. Here comes Tommy. Unleashing on some of your comments on that.

And well, I didn't expect him to do this that badly, of course, in the Red Bull. of course the guy in the Red Bull for much of the season we've already spoken about Yuki Snowda who finished 17th like can you imagine at the start of the season saying the second Red Bull driver finishes 17th in the World Championship that would be

that would be the hottest take of hottest takes yeah particularly with saying I think Max is going to either win or finish second and the other driver is going to finish 17th in the championship Lawson of course 14th thanks to the fact that he got all his points for

V-cab had a strong end to the season and not a million miles off Hadjar in the end. A couple of positions behind him. And yeah, 14th for Lawson. I also predicted Liam Lawson to be eighth, which means it feels it feels kind of wrong that we're getting points, equal points for being so horrendously wrong. But I guess it doesn't change. It doesn't really change anything. We could we could give a zero, but we've already committed to this now. It makes us less. sound less bad at the end when we're like oh we scored 45 points but most of them were just us drawing drawing wrong i mean how many draws have we actually had

should we just cancel the draws none yeah i think we cancel the drawers bro i think that unless we we're bang on i think we did that last year and i think we also to be honest we haven't drawn we haven't drawn so far cancel the cancel the draws but if we both get it correctly we get two points each easy yeah yeah i think that yeah bang on absolutely um yeah so we don't have to actually changed the scores at all because there has been no draws up until this point, which means the scores are still 6.3. 13th in the World Championship was Oliver Bearman. I backed him to beat Esteban Okon and I put him 14th. 14th position. Is that close enough to beat Tommy? It is not. I predicted him 14th. So exactly the

same. I actually predicted him to be lower. Can we stop having the same brain? Well, I predicted him. Well, weirdly, we didn't because I predicted him lower than Esther Banach on. You predicted him to beat it, but actually overall in the table, it was 14. So, and there we go. Olly Behrman, yeah, he was way down the order actually quite early into the season, had a fantastic end, scored lots of points. My go. Yeah, he was really strong at the end, got bagged a load of points and finished ahead of Esty-Besty in the end. Yeah, despite Ockon's great points finish at the end,

Olly still managed to beat his teammate, and I think it was a very solid rookie season for Olly Behrman, very happy for him. So no points, because we both went for the same thing, and it was slightly, slightly wrong. 12th in the championship was Isaac Hatcher. And I went for 18th. That's got to be minus points.

That's got to be minus three. well we'll get into yours as well um this could have been even worse because of course hadjar was looking like he could maybe even take uh eighth or ninth in the championship he fell away a little bit at the end um he had a fantastic season of breakthrough season the thinking here was of course that i didn't think v carb would be anything special and also didn't really know a huge amount about hadjar and i think he was incredibly overlooked um uh going into the season and instead he's had a brilliant season and I don't think 12th even tells the story of how strong he's been. So my prediction for Isaac Hadjar was 16th which gives me a point in this

little championship we're doing. I am pleasantly surprised for Hadjar. He came in with not a lot of expectation on his shoulders at all really, at least not from us. We didn't really, as you can see by our predictions, didn't expect anything too crazy from him. But the V-carb was a great car for a lot of the season and was able to put him in brilliant positions, but also his qualifying. Isaac Hadjar is qualifying. I feel like as the years go by, I think he'll be known for doing what, let's say, Pierre Gazley has done many times in the past in when he was obviously at the second team at Red Bull and so on and so forth, where he was basically putting in unbelievable performances in a car that you wouldn't expect to perhaps be there. I think Hadjar is

great in qualifying. And should Formula One stay the same, where we always always, you know, or at least the grid on Saturday will usually mean somewhere near where you finish on Sunday, then this will play into Hajar's hands massively with the fact he's a bit of a one-lap specialist. So I'm sorry that I went for 16th, but I'll take the point. Thank you very much indeed. An 11th place in the World Championship was Nico Holcomburg in a Kicksalber. I predicted him 19th. 19th in the championship. For Nico Holcomberg, I was not familiar with your game, Nico. I was not familiar with Salba's game, I'll be honest with you as well.

We went from not expecting anything for Audi when they were announced to now going, wow, okay. Yeah, what is going on here? I was unfamiliar because they've come on leaps and bounds this year and I've had a great season. I put him 19th, could I possibly score a point, Tommy? You could. Oh, yes! despite being miles away, but I was more miles away because I said he was going to be 20th and last in the championship.

That's got me its qualification. Look, Niko Holkenberg, it sounds absent. It's all recentcy and it's all like an insane thing to think about. He scored 51 points in the championship. He got his podium. He finished 11th. Last year, you know, it sounds insane for us to go. 19th and 20th, let's not forget.

know. Salba were absolutely awful. They finished with four points in the whole constructor standings. They were miles off anyone, nowhere near. Botas scored nothing. Joe scored four points. And yeah, it's one of those things where we thought they were going to be useless again. And instead, Holkenberg had a great season. So nowhere near. So you're going to apologize to Nico now or later with the fact that you thought Borseletto would beat him. I will apologize to Nico, but also say you're welcome because it was so bad that it jinxed him and got him his

podium. Okay. Fair enough. So you're somehow trying to say you helped him. Very interesting indeed. I don't I think people take it as like slander. I think I think Bortoletto has been strong and there was logic here. Like at the end of the at the end of the day like last year, the people think Joguan knew is a better driver than Botas, no, but he got more points. Like, that's just how... Yeah, that's how you saw it. That's how I saw it wrong. You saw it wrong. I saw it wrong. Indeed, very wrong. We are sometimes very wrong. Okay, before we get into the top 10,

the scores on the doors. So I've had a good couple of, I mean, I say good, so wildly wrong, but less wildly wrong than Tommy that brings me back into this action, six four behind. Tom Bellingham leads, six four, as we head into the... the top 10 in 10th position in the World Championship was Fernando Alonzo. And I said Fernando Alonzo would be 13th. I didn't back him. Not a real fan. Not a real fan. Of course, I said that Lance Stroll would be 16th, which he was. So I put that Alonzo would finish much higher. It's insane to think because I was nervous about Stroll potentially beating Alonzo in the championship at one point. He had such poor luck.

at the start of the season. But my logic here was that Astor Martin prediction, of course, that I made in the main thing of like that they'd score less than 50 points and it would be hard for Fernando to make his way at the table, but instead, yeah, got a good old chunk of points and finished 10th.

Well, I backed you, man. I went for a Fernando Alonzo P-11 in the driver's standings, just missing out on a two-pointer. And really the momentum is back with the Gallagher's right now. And I'm feeling good about the rest of, rest of the season, the rest of the top 10, maybe, let's see. So 11th for Fernando Alonso. I was not as glass half empty, unsurprisingly, the new Tommy. I thought Fernando would be able to make the difference

even in a poor car. And that's exactly what he did. He could have, I mean, if we think about how bad of an opening part of the season he had, he could have easily finished eighth in the standings, considering the slow end to Albon's season and the difficult start to Carlos, both of those of course, finishing ahead of him. But it was 10th in the end

for Fernando and a point for me bringing it to 6.5. 9th in the World Championship, as I've just mentioned, Carlos Sines. I predicted Carlos

in 10th position. Is that close enough to score a point, Tom Bellingham? No, because I predicted him ninth and it was another one of those failed successfully moments because I predicted him spoiler a lot higher than album can we do no we're not changing the rules no no no no we're not

changing the rules right competitive all right wasn't even going to say that Tommy relax yourself color science yeah went for ninth place uh this of course ninth place I thought would be best of the rest but of course that second red ball was not in the top eight Okay, so a two-pointer for Tommy is massive, takes you eight-five ahead as we head into the top eight. Alexander Albon, in eighth position. I went for 11th place. Is it enough? What did you go for?

Don't want to talk about it. I went for 12th. I went for 12th for Alex Albon. I am so sorry, Alex. Ridiculous. Another point for Tommy. That's what I'm most sorry about. it's not like I was

massively more wrong I just went for one place lower and that takes the scores to 9-5 to Tommy and Alex had such a great season in that first half I don't think he'll want to talk about the last seven races or so because there was no point scores

apart from the US sprint he could have scored so much more had he had the same ending to Carlos' season he could have been close to Kimi Antonelli come the end of this this 2025 season But alas, still a great season for both Alex and for Williams,

eighth and ninth in the standings. They'll absolutely take that. And I'm so happy for them. I'm wearing Williams right now, as you can see. I'm a big fan of Williams as a team. They're so likable. And they are on the resurgence. That's very exciting to see.

So Tommy, 95 to you. Well done. I hope you're happy with the money. Seventh place was Kimmy Antonelli. I predicted Kimmy Antonelli to finish. In seventh place. Tommy, you know, you're a big Kimmy Antonelli fan. Where did you put him?

I put him sixth. So bad, honestly. How wrong can you be at one place? But I scored two points. That takes it to 9-7. Kimmy Antonelli, the way I thought his season was going to unfold was a really good Mercedes car, rookie errors, but some good pace and some great results. And that's kind of what happened in Kimmy's season.

He had a slump in the mid part where we were going, oh, this needs to stop. This needs to stop quite quickly. And we need to see some big moments. The Miami sprint pole was when he sort of entered the fray, I would say, of, okay, Kimmy Antonelli on his rookie season. This is what we want to see. But as I mentioned, he had moments in 2025,

which he won't want to talk about. But then the end of the season again was really, really strong. Ignore Abu Dhabi. But that was, I think, the right way to do it where, Brazil was so great. What a weekend for him in particular for that one. And overall, he's shown enough this year to really make some strides next year, I would say.

Yeah, definitely. I will go on to the next person as well, as I kind of mention a little bit more of this, but I, of course, went with the very bold prediction that Kimmy Antonelli would beat George Russell. So had I not kind of been a bit crazy and fanboyish, I would have also put him seventh, but I was like, no, he's going to beat George, put him sixth. And of course, it was very close to sixth, but didn't quite get there.

Very close, but not quite. It's nine seven to Tommy. This is close. In sixth in the championship, it was Lewis Hamilton. Now, I said Lewis Hamilton was fifth. He was, of course, six. But there's more to this, because of course, Kimmy Antonelli was incredibly close to Lewis Hamilton at the end, that we thought he might pip him

and had he done that it would have made Lewis Hamilton basically would have taken your prediction away of Antonelli where he finished and given the point to me so Kimmy Antonelli yeah Kimmy Antonelli's a point swing

due to his position so yeah thank you crazy thank you Kimmy thank you Kimmy for not finishing sick than the Aberdeley Grand Prix where you absolutely could have yeah and there we go So yeah, went for Hamilton 5th, thought Ferrari would be stronger than they were, of course.

I didn't expect Hamilton's season to be this bad. Of course, fifth place, quite close, but not horrendous. I also went for fifth place, so no points scored for either of us. I, you know, in the pre-season before testing, obviously I went Charlotte Clowell World Champion. him because why wouldn't I? All of the things sort of pointed at the end of 2024 to Ferrari having a strong car. But after testing, I lost all hope and all faith and just plop them much further down the field than I expected. I think we thought they'd be third fastest based on our positions of the Merck's and where we put Ferrari. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And

they were fourth fastest a lot of the time, sadly. But, you know, there were still moments where Ferrari was strong and they were able to pick up some points, but Hamilton to be so far behind Charles LeClair in the World Championship was not something either of us expected, I would say, over the course of the 24 race season. So yeah, fifth place for both of us and it was Lewis in sixth. So the scores remain nine seven. In fifth place in the championship was Charles Lecler. I predicted Charles to finish fourth in the world championship. And that did not happen. Tommy, where did you go? I also went for fourth position.

Oh, wow. No points once again. We need to stop having the same brain. This was the logic the same as you. There was a lot of talk over the start. I was uming and aaring about putting Hamilton ahead of Leclair. Of course, that would have been insanely wrong because Leclair was comfortably ahead. It was only, you know, they finished fifth and six in the title. So only like one position of.

part, but doesn't really tell the story of their seasons at all, and the points gap between them. Yeah, my logic here was the fact that Ferrari would be maybe third fastest, quicker than the Merck's, but I didn't think they'd be all that great. There's actually, I want to just say something quite funny that someone shared the clip the other day of us reacting to the Ferrari car launch. And at the end, obviously, there's so much. hype about Ferrari. It's funny to look back now, but genuinely, like, you weren't the only one that

thought they were going to win the Constructors, challenge for the title, there's a lot of hype around them. And at the end of the clip, I go, do you know what that looks like to me, fourth in the Constructors, and you look really annoyed as if that actually came in? Oh, dear, so your bait actually was correct for once.

Yeah, for once, yeah. Well done. Well done, Tommy. So don't say that next year. Say that looks like first in the construction. Okay. Thank you. Right. So scores are still 9-7 as we head to fourth in the championship was George Russell. Well, as we know, we've gone different here because I predicted George to be good in the champion. Sorry, bad in the championship compared to Antonelli. I put him all the way down in seventh position. Didn't think Mer could be that strong. Antenelli. I did. That was serious fanboy moment for you. It was. It was a hot take. How many points did they finish away from? each other

169. Nice. You were cataclysmically wrong there. I went for sixth in the in the standings because I thought Mercedes would be

worse than Ferrari but I thought that George would beat Kimmy quite confidently I think I was quite confident that that would happen and it did

so that is a point to me which puts it to 98 the top three in the championship in third place was Oscar Piastri and I

went for third. On the nose, as of right now, Gallagher leads 10-9. Tommy? What did you go for? I went for Oscar Piastri in third place. Yeah, third place for Oscar Piastri. Stop copying me. Well, I don't know who went first, actually. To be fair, to be fair, you know, we'll talk about the top three. Obviously, we've not spoken any of them, so we've the top three were in the top three whether they're in the right order, we'll find out based on the last two. But Oscar, the logic here was

that it would be you know, I thought he'd finish third due to maybe not having the consistency. Obviously he kind of did, but I don't think I saw him being a championship contender and of course he did brilliantly in the championship a lot

better than I predicted and you probably thought as well Well, based on, like, we knew he was a new driver, only his third season. And, yeah, so close to the World Championship, but did indeed finish third. Yeah, I expected a step up from Oscar. I did not expect him to lead 15 rounds or whatever it was of the World Championship and to come so close to winning his first title. Yeah, that third prediction from both of us does not, as much as we score two points here.

We were right but wrong, basically. We were so correct with the number, so wrong with how we thought it would play out. We thought it was a Max versus Lando kind of season. And Oscar very much joined the party. And I hope, I really hope for his sake, he looks back on this season with positive thoughts rather than what could have been. Of course, it's going to be probably the latter in the days after Abu Dhabi. But fingers crossed, he has a team around him to just really remind him of how good he was. Yeah, third season, he's got a very bright future ahead of him, no doubt.

In second place in the championship, and my brain is now figuring out just how badly this has gone for me. Max Verstappen finished P2. I went for first place. And so did I. And so did I. Goodness gracious me. 1110.

Can we just talk about this, though, because my word, if this had come in and Max, had scored two more points. Of course, we know that they'd run the swap anyway and all this kind of stuff, but in terms of like the actual result, so many things, but had he scored two more points, wins a world championship.

This would have been a generational prediction from us both. You do, we need to remember how slandered we were going for Max winning the championship. The hate we got. The heat in the comments. Everyone was saying they were the fourth best after testing. They were no

where the McLaren was so clear even Max himself was asked like who's going to win the championship and who how many people are going to be challenged for the championship he said two and they're both wearing orange it was it was so clearly like a McLaren going to win the championship thought it's going to be one two between them and it was for a lot of the the stage and he almost did it and our prediction you know you wind it back was McLaren will take points off each other in the championship throughout the year and Max will just keep picking up consistent points and beat them

at the end I think it would be close we were so close to it crazy and alas we were wrong alas we were wrong that's what it will say on paper but yeah I remember that very clearly just how many people went what are you guys on the fact that you've gone for Max Verstapp and World Champion but we were both similarly minded

and it almost played out two perfection of what we expected to happen. So we were not correct, but we were very, very close. And I know that probably the Max Championship would have felt good for you, Tommy. But I think this, the prediction of it may have felt even better, because I know for a fact you would have started replying to the comments from the previous video and saying, well, how'd you like me now? No, just lots of eyes emojis in replies.

A little, what do you think now? Hello. Okay, so we both were wrong. No points. It is still 1110. And unsurprisingly, in first position in the world championship was Lando Norris. And if you've done the math and you've done the order, you'll know that we both went for Lando Norris in second position. And we were so close to getting first, second and third correct in the world championship had it been two points the other way.

But Lando, of course, winning the world championship. We thought he would come close. We thought that he would fight Max all the way. I don't think we expected, you know, we expected Rebel to be better than they were. were, sorry, we expected Max to do better. Of course, we went for first in the world championship. Everyone else had written them off. We thought that Max would score a huge amount of points,

which he did in the last half of the season. I don't think we expected the fall off as much in that first half. And that's what allowed, of course, Lando and Oscar to score an enormous amount of points and to have an insane buffer on Max. And it should have been over a lot. it shouldn't have been as close as it was. And that was down to McLaren, the disqualifications,

the blunders that we've seen occasionally. So, yeah, Lando proved us wrong, I think, in some ways, in the fact that we thought, if it was a head-to-head fight between Max and Lando, Max would come out on top. Lando managed it. He was incredibly impressive

with the mentality that he showed and really went on a run of form that is worthy of being called a world champion. So we were wrong, Lando was right, and he's world champion. He is world champion in a weird way, kind of like, had we gone for first position, it would have almost been like the Oscar Piastri position where it's like, you've got it right, but kind of did we? Because I think the smart bet was Lando wins the World Championship easily.

He has the car underneath him to do it from the start of the season. and he'd dominate and the other teams wouldn't have a look in and obviously he won the world championship but he just got it over the line there were his errors there were team errors of course there was so much in the season that that changed the scenario um but yeah it was incredibly close and in a weird way like that that order of lando max oscar wouldn't have been an absolutely insane prediction at the start of the year but if you'd said it had gone the way it had, I think it would have been like, whoa, no way. I don't think we could have foreseen the way it happened.

Yeah, for sure. If you get what I'm saying. For sure. It was a season of a lot of... Rollercoasters for all three of them. A lot of moments, yeah, for sure. So there you go. All right.

So the final scores are 1110 to Tom Belliam. And are you telling me that last stroll becoming Ayrton Senna around the outside of Olly Behrman has won't you this. Not even, it's not even been a draw. It was a two point swing. Lance Stroll going around the outside of Olly Bermann on the final lap. Is that Lance or is that Olly in that sense? Is that Berman?

That is what this, I cannot believe that is. Goodness, I'm predicting Lansdahl 20th in the championship next year. I'm fuming right now. So, obviously our next, next, next, video and podcast, if I'm not wrong, is reacting to our 2025 predictions. You beat me by a point in one of them. By pointing this, it's level all going into. No, no, no, no, no, relax.

As I said at the top, I did not know who had won this, by the way, coming into this. As I said in the top, the hierarchy, right? I won the drivers. You've won the constructors. Well done. No one cares about that. The drivers are the main predict. That's the Wednesday predictions.

You know, that is the gold standard. This one, this one's like the constructors. oh well done we'll see if I win both over the year and then it's a 2-1 victory to me we'll see oh okay

I love it I'm not competitive I'm Tom Bellingham there we go alright it's a lot of fun I enjoy it yeah it's good fun and again

like I'm sorry but why are we so close it's crazy how close this always happens because this like you know we can't Michael Massey

this one like it's literally us just predicting an order and as if like it's all worked out to be one point apart when we've had these situations where, yeah, like, I've gone for this driver here and particularly the midfield. I know our obviously top drivers were quite similar

in the end. In the top five, we went for exactly the same and we didn't know this coming into the season. And I think that's fair, right? With the predictions, of course, we have the rule of you can't go for the same as me for this and yada, yada, yada. We can't step in and be like, no, you have to go for a different second, different third, different fourth. Yeah. It's, no, I like the way that we'd end up having like O'Conn in first place because you've not, you've not used him yet or something. Yeah, it wouldn't work. But, yeah, that was a lot of fun. I really like reflecting on it, you know, it's predictions aren't that deep.

It's like, it's funny that we're wrong. Like, I enjoy looking back on it and thinking, like, wow, it is an unpredictable season. Like, it's enjoyable to see that I've thought Salba would score nothing and they've scored 70 points. Like, it's amazing. Who is ever right? If we're right, we should start putting money where our mouths are... Yeah, you would be a multi-millionaire

for doing an accumulator bet on the entire championship table and get them right in order. Oh, imagine another season. We've just clean sweeped it from first to 20th. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Should have put money on it.

Oh, by the way, I've also got... I've also put one pound on and won eight million pounds because it's a, like... Exactly. Imagine not winning the eight million pounds because Lance Strull goes down the outside of volleyball.

bear on the final app of Abu Dhabi. Ridiculous. All right, that was a lot of fun. Thank you, everybody, for tuning in. Next up, we're reacting to our preseason predictions before we even saw testing, which are very different, and sometimes might be right, might be wrong. So make sure you join us for that, because it will be just as funny as I'm sure you've found this one.

So see you next time. There's more content to come as we wrap up this insane 2025 season. Make sure to subscribe, leave a like, leave a nice comment. the P1 content this year. We love reading them. It genuinely puts a warm feeling in my heart to see that. I saw a lot of you commenting on our main race podcast. Thank you for that. It makes me very happy. Tommy, final thoughts? Final thoughts? As I said, it's always fun looking back on these, looking back on the season and these predictions, and you best believe that, as you were saying this, and I think you're mentioning, like, Hadjar or something and how it's going to be different

next year. If you thought these were wrong, imagine next year when it's a new regulation set and we don't really know a lot and particularly one of the tests will be behind closed doors and oh my God, like, it could be generationally wrong. And we have been generationally wrong in the past. Yeah, exactly. Look forward to it being even worse next year. Thank you everybody. We'll see you soon. Lots of love. Bye. Bye. P1 is a Stack production and part of the ACAST creator network.