P1 with Matt and Tommy - Reaction to Abu Dhabi GP practice & the Verstappen vs Russell drama!

Episode Date: December 6, 2024

We’ve made it to the final race of the year - but all the drama is happening off-track! We recap the intriguing moments from practice where lots of rookies take to the track and dive into the SPICY ...controversy in the paddock, as George Russell and Max Verstappen tear strips off each other!Our End of Season live tour starts next week! There are still some tickets available for London, Manchester, Birmingham and Bristol, so get them right here!Sign up to our Patreon here! You'll get access to bonus episodes, our classic race podcast series, every P1 episode ad-free, early access to live tickets and merch, and access to our Discord server where you can chat with other F1 fans!Follow us on socials! You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Twitch, YouTube and TikTok. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. We are live to you directly from Abu Dhabi. Yes, we just want to apologise, first and foremost, for being a little bit late with this one. We were quite literally in the middle of the desert. So if you're watching over on YouTube, you would have seen the intro. And yes, it was a good one. So, yeah, we've been quite busy, haven't we, in Abu Dhabi?
Starting point is 00:00:28 Yeah, you can't say we didn't try because, well, you'll have seen the intro on YouTube if you've watched that. and we literally tried to record in the desert. We were ready to go and then some rave music started, so we couldn't record, I'm afraid. But we did our best, but here we are. We're here. We are here and we finally got round to it.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Now, we've kind of combined this podcast into two. One, because we need to react to the Vastappan and Russell drama, but also, of course, what's gone on in Friday practice. But, I mean, Friday practice in Abu Dhabi never really brings out particularly exciting moments. Of course, we had a lot of rookies and whatnot. but still maybe not. There's things to talk about, but you know when you watch
Starting point is 00:01:07 the free practice YouTube video and they're showing lockups of drivers. Joke when you understood. Understeer as a major moment from the session. You know we're probably best off talking about what everyone else is talking about, which is the drama. So let's get into the drama then shall we
Starting point is 00:01:21 and I've got it right here to kind of run you through exactly play by play. So it's kicked off, fair to say. And if you've been living under a rock, I'm going to summarize it for you. So, for Stap and Rantin, about Russell in Qatar saying I've never seen someone trying to screw someone over that hard. In Abu Dhabi Thursday, Russell hits back at Vastappan in an interview saying,
Starting point is 00:01:44 I find it all quite ironic considering Saturday he said he's going to purposely go out of his way to crash into me and, quote, put me on my effing head in the wall. People have been bullied by Max for years now and you can't question his driving abilities, but he cannot deal with adversity whenever anything has gone against him. Quite her saucy words. But it doesn't end there, does it? Russell and Toto Wolf then had a press conference and went even further saying,
Starting point is 00:02:11 I think he has been enabled because nobody has stood up to him. Lewis stood up to him in 2021, and Lewis lost that championship unfairly. Could you imagine the roles being reversed and Max losing that championship and the manner in which Lewis lost that championship? Michael Massey would be fearing for his life. Vestappen then told Dutch media,
Starting point is 00:02:28 he's a backstabber. It doesn't matter to me. You don't have to talk too much about people like that. They are just losers. We had the last laugh because in the end we won that race. They may have started on pole thanks to their nitpicking at the stewards, but 300 metres later, they were behind us again. I can't do anything about that either. I mean, to be fair, that's a summary because there's still definitely other quotes, other damning things that both drivers have said. And I guess the first thing we need to do is dive into our initial thoughts of that. I'm just sat there going, of all the rivalries, of all the things to kick off, Russell versus Vastappen was not on my bingo card for this year over a one-place grid penalty. That's where it all started. It's so true. I saw a great tweet from someone that basically was like there wasn't even this much kind of head loss and war of words when Hamilton and Vestappen were literally going in the most intense championship battle in 2021, crashing into. to each other, you know, drama chaos. And this is a one-place grid penalty that all this has kicked over for.
Starting point is 00:03:35 And I can't believe it. I mean, my biggest, like, shock of the whole thing is that I kind of didn't expect it from George Russell. You hear Max, he's a very Dutch and like the way he's very like, he just speaks the truth. And he's to the point. He speaks his truth. He speaks his truth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Well, yeah, he speaks his truth. and he doesn't be around the bush and he's just straight talking and obviously a lot of people don't like it some people love it but he always is a straight talking guy the thing that surprised me most was how in George Russell's gone on it
Starting point is 00:04:12 because not only is it maybe a bit surprising from someone like George Russell to go this kind of ham with it but also of course he's the director sorry the guy of the GPDDA so he's kind of the voice of the drivers. Of course we start a podcast
Starting point is 00:04:32 and now there's fireworks going on outside. Is that what it is? I don't even know what that is. Is that someone cleaning the windows or I don't know? If that's someone cleaning the windows, I think we need to evacuate Tommy, to be honest with you. Hopefully you can't hear that, but if you can, we're going to continue because we've been trying to record this podcast
Starting point is 00:04:46 for about four hours now. Yeah, it is an interesting one because of course Russell himself said that he kind of tried to describe that what he's doing is in a professional manner, but Max has turned it personal and that's the thing he hasn't liked the most out of all of this is that Max has said digs
Starting point is 00:05:05 that aren't just about his driving it's about him as a person calling him a loser and things like this which I can then understand George's response to that saying that's bully-like antics because you are going for the person's character here rather than something else I think both drivers have points to be honest with you
Starting point is 00:05:22 it's you know Max on one side feels very hard done by by the whole Stewards incident and I'm completely with him in the sense of that was a ridiculous penalty and one of the most crazy things ever. And Max is almost trying to find a reason as to why this has happened and he's kind of landed it on George
Starting point is 00:05:40 being like well you and your FIA mates that's kind of the only logical solution he can come up with because it was just the most ridiculous penalty. Yeah I mean we'll never know because they don't film the stewarding meetings and things like that, but what Vastappen said about Russell is maybe not surprising. And I think the fact that
Starting point is 00:06:03 George Russell didn't actively come out and go, no, what Max said isn't true, George Russell's just come in and kind of gone, well, actually, Max is blah, blah, blah, blah, like this. And so he's kind of gone after Max rather than being like, no, what Max said wasn't true because he's kind of, well, he's basically kind of admitted it, hasn't he? Because he said himself, well, you know, just like Max did with Lando, you're always trying to get an advantage. And that doesn't surprise me personally. You know, George Russell, I can totally imagine doing that kind of thing anyway. Now Alonzo's kind of piped in himself about this incident because, of course, if we go way back to Australia, which had completely forgotten back to feels forever ago in the season now, Alonzo got the penalty,
Starting point is 00:06:48 didn't he wear, he slowed down into the corner. Russell didn't actually crash into him, but dirty air and all that kind of stuff spun off, crashed into the wall, had a big accident and Alonso got a penalty and there's all these talks now and you can actually find out articles of like well George Russell was kind of trying to get onto a penalty as well there
Starting point is 00:07:07 and Alonzo thinking that it shouldn't have been a penalty so I'm not really surprised but all Formula One drivers do it they want to gain an advantage for themselves exactly right I think Alonzo Vastapp and two very key examples of drivers that have tried everything, whether it's on track or off track to gain an advantage. And they don't like it when it happens to them.
Starting point is 00:07:28 But the problem should fall on the FIA here, not on George Russell getting his own way because he's a teacher's pet or whatever. Like George can do whatever he wants in the steward's room. He can argue his case, however which way we're all allowed an opinion. It's on the FIA to actually follow the letter of the law. And that's where, in my opinion, the grievances should have lied. And then none of this probably would have exploded the way it has. but maybe that in itself and the FIA
Starting point is 00:07:53 and how all of that is going down at the moment, perhaps the likes of Max feels as though it's falling on deaf ears and then goes to George instead. It's an utterly bizarre situation. Let's go to a question from P1 and Patreon member Lossie Dogg. Do you think Vastappen's reaction in the media at Qatar was warranted and has George perhaps taken it a step further than just defending himself at Abu Dhabi?
Starting point is 00:08:17 Did he take it too? Verstappen's reaction was absolutely warranted in the sense of being very outspoken about how poor the decision was by the FIA without a shadow of that. And I'm pretty sure 12,000 fireworks are going off outside right now. I don't know what's going on. This is so curse. This podcast just doesn't want her. Abu Dhabi is celebrating the fact we've got back to the hotel to do the podcast.
Starting point is 00:08:44 And to be fair, if you can't hear this and it will mean nothing to you. But I can hear it very loudly right now. But back to Vastappan, I think his reaction was warranted in the sense of the anger of what happened. Did it go, has it all kind of blown out of proportion? Yes, I think so as well. Maybe it's the end of the season. It's an incredibly long season for the drivers, more so the teams. But the drivers, you know, they will get mental fatigue and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:09:08 And yeah, maybe it is just underlying frustrations at the FIA, and it's kind of boiling out now that they're scrapping against each other. it's uh i i honestly am a little bit dumbfounded as to how this has all sort of got to the way it has Tommy what do you think uh i think that you're right in the fact that i can't believe it's escalated this much um i think the fact that vestappen's initial comments weren't in my opinion that bad it was a little bit of like trash talking but it wasn't he's absolutely attacked it was kind of like oh that's a bit spicy but i don't think it's anything more crazy than we've heard other drivers in the past talk about each other.
Starting point is 00:09:50 So the fact that George has gone that in on the situation is obviously felt very strongly about it. And I guess, yeah, just the fact that it's the end of the year is obviously blown up massively. I think a lot of people are, in my personal opinion, maybe exaggerating how bad it is and how bad it is for F1 and things like that. Which in my opinion personally, this is part of sport, is kind of nitpicking at each other. And I don't want things to get like crazy bitter and that's not what I'm saying and that's what I want sport to be.
Starting point is 00:10:38 But equally, you can't expect these drivers who are elite sportsmen, trying to get an advantage of people, trying to kind of do all this stuff. You can't expect them to be, you know, holding hands in the paddock with their rivals. That's not how any sport works, and especially not, you know, Formula One.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I remember, you know, in the past, there's all sorts of drivers, you know, battling in the media. It's always been part of the sport that you kind of can, get in your driver's head, mental games, things like that as well. Like that's part of the sport. It certainly is. It builds the rivalries. And I agree with you in the sense of we don't want it to become toxic in the sense of not
Starting point is 00:11:18 just the drivers going at each other's throat sports. So the fans and all that sort of stuff. We do want lively rivalries because that's what makes sport interesting. You want to see those two go wheel to will now. And that's something that... The drama is absolutely incredible. I couldn't believe what I was reading. I mean, it's the greatest.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Thursday, kind of media day in the history of... Well, for journalists, it certainly was. It's quite something. Let's go to the question P1 Patreon member Quinti has asked. Who do you think is lying or exaggerating Vastappen or Russell? Now, I think this is dangerous territory to get into because there are journalists, people out there kind of speaking about what George has said that Max has said
Starting point is 00:12:02 and this sort of stuff. But for me, as much as it might be believable, perhaps, what Max has been saying about putting him on his effing head and how you might think Max might say that, we haven't heard it, we haven't seen it, we haven't seen the way in which it was delivered. So it's a very much a he said, she said scenario here where it could have been terrible and Max really being angry or it could have been Max saying it in a way that we know Max can deliver certain lines to George who didn't take it very well. So it's not a case of lying and exaggerating. We never usually see drivers come into the media like this. And there's a reason for it. Because then drivers, sorry, people, fans of the sport, are then left to their own judgment as to what's gone on here.
Starting point is 00:12:46 We don't have the fact. Yeah, I think as well, yeah, we don't really want to speculate of who said what. And is it true? Because the fact of the matter is we won't know unless that for whatever reason and it's being filmed for drive to survive or something, and then we'll be like, we'll get to hear it with our own ears. But it's very unlikely that that whole stewarding thing, it's private process, and it's very unlikely.
Starting point is 00:13:11 So you're just relying on what's been said. And I know a lot of people have taken Max's comments, if they indeed are true, about putting George on his head in the wall. And maybe it's unfair. and I know a lot of people disagree with me. But saying something is a lot different to doing something. And just because he said something,
Starting point is 00:13:37 if Stappan had then crashed into George at the start and put him in the wall, then there's something to be said about it. But it's just trash talk. I think James Hinchcliff put it perfectly when he was talking about it where he said, trash talk is part of sport, and he hasn't done anything wrong by, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:56 I remember David Coulthard saying, about Filippe Massa years and years ago, if he doesn't agree with me, I'm going to punch the living beep out of him. Yeah. Should David Coulthard be penalised for that? No, he's just angry in the moment and saying something. If he did do that, then there's grounds to be had.
Starting point is 00:14:18 But Max just drove past him in the race, and there wasn't anything to be had there. So I don't think you can sort of, penalised people for trash talking and kind of saying things like that personally. Indeed, I agree. P1PATry member Snowbourne. With everything that's been said, is this a good argument for transcripts of the meetings and stewards' investigations?
Starting point is 00:14:45 No, I think it's an absolute can of worms if transcripts from stewards' investigations comes out just because this one thing has been said in the room that, oh, they were swearing and this other stuff. And then I was reading that Crofty had said that there was no swearing in the stewards room. And then I'm like, wait, how does he know? Is he there? And then it's another, well, Dave said from down the pub and then he said. Yeah, and then you're hearing there's so many things flying around on F1 Twitter that's like,
Starting point is 00:15:13 oh, when they had their drivers dinner, Max saved a seat for George. And it's all like, maybe he did, but we don't know. And I think with this, F1 kind of Twitter and things doesn't need to be any more toxic with having like, these are like private sessions where a driver should be able to defend themselves, whether Max likes it or not, if George defends himself incredibly extremely. They should be allowed to do that in a private environment and it's up to the stewards to decide. and you know it shouldn't be a thing turned into our entertainment where it's like an episode of question time or something where they're going at it or whatever. It just that shouldn't happen.
Starting point is 00:16:00 That would just be chaos. It's a bit like they film the drivers briefing at one point, didn't they? And the drivers were like, well, I kind of feel like I can't really say what I want to say because I know it's going to go online and all this kind of stuff. And it would just be a kind of worms like you say. So in a nutshell, yes, it's got completely and utterly out of hand. George and Max can you make up
Starting point is 00:16:20 but not too much so that we can still find it quite interesting when you're out on track. I love that Lando said he has respect for both of them but doesn't care if they both lose respect for each other because it's quite amusing to watch. It's also a bit, it is a bit tongue in cheek really of
Starting point is 00:16:35 the drama of sport and I know people take it very seriously and they obviously are taking it very seriously the drivers but Max is coming in the beef emoji on Lando's poster. It doesn't. He doesn't care. It's just a bit of a bit of jest, really, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:16:53 And it's just drivers trying to get a competitive advantage. And these elite sportsmen are trying to get the advantage and everything, and they're going to put the rivals off, they're going to trash talk each other. That just happens. Exactly. And it's spread like wildfire because we haven't had this in a very long time. And you mentioned that tweet.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I think they even said it's not even 10% of the entire 2021 season between Lewis, and Max got to the stage that we have now over a one-place grid penalty with Russell and Vastappen. That's why we've gone like, whoa, okay, let's talk about this because it's felt so disproportionate. Exactly. It's like every driver now
Starting point is 00:17:33 is PR train from day dot. You've got to say this. You can't say this. They have their own team in their ear making sure they don't say anything wrong. Whereas back in the day, of course, the famous incendiary if you're not going to go for a gap, quote that came with him basically being triggered by a question from Jackie Stewart and he went in and he was like no this is disrespectful Stewart how dare and like that nowadays would be like whoa this
Starting point is 00:18:00 is crazy but it doesn't happen anymore because everything so well rounded and here's my official statement really a nice fancy document and it was real like we actually had real emotion from two drivers and that's that's what I think really captured us there right even if it was completely completely and slightly out of control. Shall we talk about practice? Go on then. Let's talk about Joe Kwan. Let's talk about that.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Well, no, let's talk about the fact that Charlotte Clare has a 10-place grid penalty maybe. That's quite big, Tommy. I know that practice wasn't usually the most interesting sessions in the world, but Charlotte-Clau obviously wasn't able to go out for a lot of free practice, one, maybe until 25 minutes to the end. And then his battery had to be replaced. And if you remember, they had to replace that first battery in Bahrain, first round of the season. So it's done all right, you know, up until this point. But of course,
Starting point is 00:18:57 in the last round of the season, when I've put every egg into Shao LeCler and Ferrari's basket, you're 10, not even 5. Why is a battery got to be 10? You know what I'm saying? Like, make it they've done, the FIA, the FI in Formula One done such a great job of trying to Michael Massey this. And then they go and give him a 10 place grid penalty. Oh, you know, it just, It doesn't feel fair. It's getting for him because it was lined up nicely that you had this battle with Ferrari and McLaren there was still very much a chance.
Starting point is 00:19:30 It's obviously going to be incredibly difficult now with Shell starting way back even if he gets pole, he's P-11. So maybe it's a bit easier to overtake now at Abu Dhabi in this year. It's still a challenging track though to pass. It certainly is. So the first question for practice one
Starting point is 00:19:48 was from P1PATRI, remember Chila. championship back off, question mark. The thing is right, that would have actually been championship back on because Charlotte Kloh went fastest and we all started to believe, well, I did. And then of course the news came out after Free Practice 1, which was fantastically great. Can he win from 11th? No, I don't think so. We'll get into Free Practice 2, but there's a team radio that's now stuck with me where Charles said that after being told that Piastri had done a 292 in race pace, that the McCleons, or they are so fast. And you don't want to hear, you don't want to hear them say, that because that's like a Hamilton being told he's a second slower and then they're like wow how do they keep doing this man you don't but then Qatar they were miles had it's like oh it's a one
Starting point is 00:20:30 two from McLaren easy like it's done and then it completely flipped on its head tell me stop feeding my delusions okay I'm trying to be realistic here and you're like no mat get back on that cloud well it's it is true that we felt like McLaren going to win every single race this year and then something always seems to happen so you know they've won what five races McLaren they could have won a lot more so it's not out the question. Okay, game on. Charlecler wins from 11. Thank you very much, Tommy.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Question from P1, Patreon member Lumixion. How cool was it to see the Lecler brothers in action together? It was very cool. We've been very lucky with Shell to be in a wonderful little grandstand, in the main grandstand, but like in a little sweet. Oh, no. Oh my God. Literally always feel completely and utterly out of place.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I'm like, why are we here? But it was really cool. and we're literally opposite the starting grid and we will be able to see pole position go, well, sorry, I was going to say Charle-Claire. What should have been Charles Lecler in first place leading the way on Sunday? You have to get your binoculars out.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Okay, good, thanks mate. Not like I'm slightly vulnerable as it is after that news today. But it was awesome to see both the LeClaire as much as there wasn't actually a huge amount of running with both of them there because Charles had his problems. We did actually think at one point maybe Charles wasn't even going to get out there,
Starting point is 00:21:50 but they did, and it was nice. and I think Arthur did a great job. It's not expected, and I'm sure he was not expected to go out there and blaze the lap times in, because it's Ferrari literally trying to challenge for the Constructors Championship. It's probably a circulate, don't crash the car, have a great time. And I think he did a good job. Some people were saying, oh, does he even deserve it? It's nepotism, it's fine, is this, that and the other.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Yeah, I know, literally. And some of them were Carlos Sines fans saying it. And I'm like, huh? I mean, literally, do you know? Anyway. You've literally got a son of a Formula One driver's world champion, the son of a rally driver, Carla Science, son of a motorbike world champion Jack Dewan, Lance Stroll. Like, it happens, right? F1 fans when rich men get into the spot.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Unfortunately, that is how it works. And it's unfortunately, like, very hard. And hopefully it will change, but that is how it is. Yeah, when it costs as much money. It was cool to, it was a real story to see them, you know, it's, It's only an FP1 session as well. It's not like they've given him like a race or something. Yeah, I'll set this one out, mate.
Starting point is 00:22:55 And also it's important to remember that this probably wasn't planned as well because of Ollie Bearman and how he couldn't tick off the FP1 scheduled running as their reserve because he's already done races so it wouldn't count, right? As their rookie driver. Yeah, it's not like they did it for banter. They did it because they have to tick it off at the end of the season. And that's why I had so many different rookies out there. You know, speaking of the rookies, so you had.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Hirakawa for McLaren, Hajar for Red Bull, who had that spin right at the start, and I bet Christian Horner was like, oh, okay, all right. Still not Yuki Sanoda, though. Iwasa was out there in the RB, of course, Lecler, Arta was in the Ferrari,
Starting point is 00:23:33 then Jack Dewan, but he's now a fully fledged racing driver for this weekend, and, of course, next year, and then Luke Browning and the Williams. The one that obviously stands out, is Hirakawa was the fastest of those rookies. It was quite close between them, though, but, yeah, it was cool to see some new names out there.
Starting point is 00:23:49 And the fact that they're like mixed into the pack shows that, you know, they're not, you know, you go back to the 90s or whatever and you put a lot of these kind of new drivers in. They'd probably be like seconds and seconds off the pace. But these young drivers, we've seen it so many times this year, are good and able to jump in the car and do well. There was actually quite a funny moment. I don't know if you saw, but they definitely knew what they were doing with this where they did a comparison of their like throttle trace between Arthur and Shell. came up and it said Lecler faster, not 0.07, it's like, which Lecler? Yeah, they didn't quite think that one through. But no, it was really cool to see that. Let's get a free practice two then. And first question, Craig Tilly 95. Are McLaren looking
Starting point is 00:24:35 quicker than expected? Than expected? Is it a surprise that McLaren are quick this year? Yeah, it's not a surprise. I think that with Nico Holcomburgh, chilling in P3, I'm taking this slightly with a pinch of salt, even FP2, which is usually quite a representative session, compared to P1 at least. So Hulkenberg up there in a very rogue P3 makes me wonder just how quick some of these drivers are over one lap. Bottas up in seventh.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Well, they are the best now. Maybe this is his chance to get points. Maybe. I mean, Bottas, that would be quite the turnaround, wouldn't it? It would be his reward for paying for the meal for all the drivers. I know, of all the drivers, the one that's unemployed, has to pay for the meal. Are you kidding?
Starting point is 00:25:19 Maybe that was his What's Next? I'm sorting the bills. What's the bill? The bill. But now I think McLaren, of course, they've been quick all year. They've not executed well every single weekend, but they have had a decent looking car. And are we surprised?
Starting point is 00:25:33 No, not really. It's a hot, humid track, which we expected them to be very quick in Qatar, and they were. So it's like for like, really. I mean, yeah, McLaren were good at Monaco. They were good at Monza. When you're good at those two tracks,
Starting point is 00:25:48 you're good everywhere. And they have been good everywhere. It's literally only Vegas where they were a little bit, well, they were off the pace, like literally the only one. And that's obviously a very extreme compared to the other. So it's not a huge surprise, but of course it's only practice. It's only practice. Tomorrow qualifying, very much looking forward to that.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I love how my day sort of changed from LeCleur going fastest in FP1. I was buzzing, clapping away, to then finding it has a penalty and then McLaren one, two and free practice too. That is a serious downfall if I've ever seen it. Let's see how it all unfolds tomorrow. Question P1Petri member, Sam, how good are HASS? Sam, it seems like by this question you are a Hasse fan, or at least a Holkenberg fan. If they are third place, then you're going to have a great weekend.
Starting point is 00:26:35 But I really don't think that's quite how the pace is looking out there. But, look, Hass have again, they've been the best of the rest for quite some time this year. They have. I wouldn't be surprised if they got points. It does look like it's been a good car this year, you know, in the hands of, you know, even KMAG that had that horrible start to the year, has to be said, has been doing a good job.
Starting point is 00:26:59 So definitely points up for grabs and maybe they could very much score more. And be Alpine, yeah, for sure, especially with Jap Dewan, who's not exactly completely familiar with the car yet. So, again, very odd decision by Alpine. But here we are. Gring asks,
Starting point is 00:27:14 should Williams just call it and start their break a week early? Yes, I said this at the end of last weekend. I was like, look, just pack it up. Have a practice session. Look forward to next year. Don't crash the car. Lovely. And then Colopinto ran wide, maybe picked up a little bit of floor damage.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Album was then crawling around. I was like, oh no. This is honestly, just lap one into the pits. Have an ice cream. Thank you very much. Yeah, Albin, I remember reading that Albin, basically, if you disregard America where I have that contact at the start, it's not finished a race in the last, like, five or something.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Really? Wow. Which, yeah, it's been really, really bad for them. And then, of course, all the problems they've had, jokes aside about, should they just pack up and go Williams and everyone there and working there, they're racers, they're a legendary team that want to go racing, and they've, you know, they're always going to, I know it's a joke question
Starting point is 00:28:14 but they're always going to go and make sure they do the final race and even if it's a bit of a stinker like the mechanics and everyone can hold their heads up very high of what they've done this year and in very difficult circumstances I can't begin to imagine
Starting point is 00:28:32 how difficult it is for the mechanics anyway with how many races you have now never mind when you're repairing a car almost feeling like every single weekend as sometimes both cars. Yeah. Yeah. So I hope they have a good end of the year. So do I. So do I.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Album was actually looking reasonably quick, and he was ninth in FP2. So fingers crossed, imagine they score a point after all that. That would be quite something. And finally, the big question. But first, before we go into that, congratulations to Max Verstappen and Kelly Peké for announcing a child on the way. I thoroughly enjoyed Max responding in a little video saying
Starting point is 00:29:10 that he's already a bonus dad. so it's not like it's just the first time, which is really cute. The question from DJ Ferrari F1, is Max for Stappan retiring? I've actually, honestly, I've seen so many people convinced Max is retiring in a few days' time. That is an absolute load of rubbish. Now, I do completely respect that he wants to be there
Starting point is 00:29:35 for his new baby when it comes, and he will be. And he will do everything he possibly can to be. a great dad. I'm very convinced of that. But he is not retiring going into next year. Maybe in a couple of years, two, three years, perhaps. He said that he wants to see his family grow up and that's one of the most special things for him to do and that's what he's looking forward to. But there is no way he is retiring at the end of this year. I cannot say it, not even one percent of me, thinks that this is going to happen. No, and what a, can you imagine if he did, it's a, I also agree, that there's no chance.
Starting point is 00:30:13 But if he did, and they're basically like, maybe we should keep Paris. We don't have any drivers now. Maybe that's why Paris is saying it. Paris is like, I've got a contract. Well, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm not being questioning,
Starting point is 00:30:25 oh, but why have they announced it now? It's like, well, just be passed. The Dutch Grand Prix is ending. Yeah, Dutch Grand Prix. Yeah, but that's not till 2026 is the final race there. So, again, it's not like it's... Like they rang up. They were like, by the way, Max is having a baby.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Cancel the Grand Prix. It's done. No one's going to. It's just ridiculous. Yeah, I can see why people like put two and two together, but they're making five. Yeah, that's not for. Yeah, that's not for it. It's not happening. Not this year. I can see it almost, it's one of those things that cements to me more that he's going to retire a lot earlier than, you Hamilton, way earlier than Hamilton and Alonto. And it could even be maybe as early as 2026 now, but not next year. Okay, that's it. We're done. We've done. We've done. little wrap up. It's not little at all. I think that we've been talking for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Tommy, what are your final thoughts, please? Final thoughts? I hope you enjoyed this one because we battled through drum and bass, fireworks and apparently me losing my voice now as well. Oh, you're getting emotional. We've finally got there in the end. I'm just emotional that we've made it. Yeah, we've finally done it. Now we're going to find out that the internet is one mega back a second. Or I didn't press record. If you didn't press record, if you didn't press record, I was honestly going to, you know, I was going to put you on your head, mate. I'm not going to lie. Thank you so much, everybody, for tuning in.
Starting point is 00:31:41 We will see you tomorrow for the qualifying roundup whenever that will be. Trust me, we're trying to get the content out as quickly as possible, but we're also trying to be Formula One fans, very giddy about being here in Abu Dhabi to watch the final race of the year. So we'll see you very soon. Lots of love, take care. Bye! Okay, what chore do you need to do?
Starting point is 00:31:59 Wait, Tommy, I think you need to do a chore. A chore? Yeah. I need to mute windows of fireworks. Mute windows. That's two words that have... never been put together. Okay, mute windows everybody.
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