P1 with Matt and Tommy - Reaction to Brazilian GP sprint race

Episode Date: November 4, 2023

What happened during the sprint race at the 2023 Brazilian Grand Prix? And, as we look ahead to next year, which tracks are our top choices for next season's sprints?Tickets for our UK live tour are selling fast! You can purchase them right HERE!We're now on Patreon! Sign up HERE for early access to our December tour tickets, ad-free episodes, bonus content, and loads more!Follow us on socials! You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Twitch, YouTube and TikTok. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back to the P-1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. It's Brazilian Grand Prix Week. We are well and truly into this sprint chaos. And it's been delivering. It's been cooking. As Interlagos always does, they always have the hob on, don't they, Tom Bellingham? They sure do.

And I also realise that it's technically not the Brazilian Grand Prix. It's the Sao Paulo Grand Prix. But just like Twitter and X, I will never. not call it the Brazilian Grand Prix. Exactly. I mean, it is in Sao Paulo, but it is the Brazilian Grand Prix, and we'll probably call it

the Brazilian Grand Prix in our YouTube video as well. So deal with it. But before we dive into the rest of this content, I've got to shout out a little summon summon because very excited to say that one of the three P1 live shows has sold out,

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and also on our socials. Right, let's get into the sprint. Was it good? Did we enjoy it? Oh, we did. It was brilliant. I think the only thing that could have added to it was Lando Norris catching Max Verstappen.

That would have been just the icing on the Brazilian cake. But my days, that midfield, Tommy, it was probably, I would say on a whim right now was some of the best racing action we have seen all year was in that sprint. Yeah, definitely, because that's the thing with the sprint. I can see everyone now going, you guys didn't like the sprint and it was dry,

but Interlagos, gets a free pass because the track is so good. Now it doesn't mean the sprints fixed, does it Tommy? Exactly. It doesn't. Although I did tweet that one fix for the sprint is just to have it into Lagos every year. And that is so true because it's the only one, if I am correct, that's had a sprint every year since sprints were introduced and all three of them were great. Yeah, you had Hamilton coming back through the field. You had George Russell, obviously.

Yeah. They've been good. There's been a lot of action. and it is just the fact that interlagos is brilliant. And I think in that sprint, we saw what is so good about interlagos. It's strange because in theory, it shouldn't be, it almost shouldn't be great because we complain about tracks like Imola and Zandvoort and things which look amazing and it's incredible circuit and fun circuit, but they're too narrow for these wide cars.

and interlagos kind of is a little bit like that but for some reason they just have amazing amazing racing and what I love is you know there's still DRS and stuff and there's plenty of DRS passes down the main straight but there's switchbacks and there's different things and you see overtaking into different corners

and that's what I absolutely love it's like frantic short circuit and yeah just another another race gone by because it's technically gear race, I guess, where just cements into Lagos his place as the greatest

Formula One track by Country Mile. Country Mile. Wow, Tommy, I was going to say, yeah, the greatest, you know, there's always a debate, what's the best Grand Prix, this, that and the other. But I think Brazil definitely cements itself as number one, at least in recent times. It's such an amazing track.

I mean, when do I ever buy props for a Grand Prix like I have this week? And I felt so comfortable wearing it as well. I feel like, you know, I feel like I've found my home with this flag and this, this hairdo, and Twitch have been saying how many subs until I actually dye my hair properly like this. I don't know what you're on about. This is actually die. Forget the sticky up here at the back where I'm wearing my headset.

But yes, it is an interesting sort of discussion, isn't it, about why, why is it so good? Why is Interlagos promoting such great racing? And I think one, it's a short track helps because we are very quickly into the DRS zones. The DRS zones, I think, are perfectly placed as well, where you've got one. Then you've got a couple of corners for them to switch your route, do a little this, that, and the other, a little bit of, okay, deep into turn one, but then they've made a poor exit out of turn two, which allows the driver behind to have DRS. That's another key thing, which is DRS detection points, and allowing for the car that's just been overtaken to have DRS back.

And then it's a great length of straight as well on that second after the S's, the center S's, where it's not too long that they just clear off. they're kind of side by side, then there's a bit more action. And I think as well, you know, I'm not a aerodynamicist by any stretch of the imagination,

but it's a short track. You've kind of got quite a slow midsection, which I would argue doesn't impact the cars as much as, say, medium to high speed in terms of the aerowash. And then all of a sudden, you're back onto a long straight again and there's almost not that long enough of a lap

for the cars to separate. And we saw, I think we saw on lap three, every single car was within DRS of each other, which you don't ever see usually at other tracks. But yeah, there's just something in the water as well, I think, over in Interlagos. It's just something that it's just brilliant. In the water, in the lakes. Yeah, it's funny you mention that, actually.

I'm just going to read this question out because it's right at the end. But you've already kind of covered it. Tommy, reading questions. I love it now. He's doing the introses. He's reading questions. I love this, Tom Bellingham. I just thought I'd read it because you basically covered it

and I was going to argue against it and you've already done it for me but yeah DAPI Emma said are the two DRS zones too close together lots of repassing in the second one and I would argue that well yes they are too close together and that's what makes it so great because I like that it's something I liked at Bahrain when you had that brilliant battle with Charlerc and Maxa Stappen a couple of years ago now where they were switching back in the corner.

You mentioned it on the stream. I didn't like Mexico where a car has DRS, then goes through the three corners and then has DRS to pull away. In my opinion, it should be the other way around where they can fight back because, yes, if you're a Daniel Ricardo fan, for example, yes, it's frustrating that he kept making those moves on sites

and then would get passed back again. But that's the kind of racing I love personally. that's what I was lording the new cars for in 2020 that maybe we've not seen as much as I'd liked, that the battles were lasting so much longer, sorry, 22, yeah, that the battles were lasting so much longer because you don't want to see someone just do a DRS pass

and then it's game over. I love the fact that Interlagos provided that, and that's why that midfield battle is absolutely sensational. There's moments where like six cars seem to have DRS and they were all like weaving in and out of each other. it was absolutely brilliant. Yeah, I don't personally understand the argument against the two DRS zones being too close together because that is exactly what it's there for is to promote racing,

not just down the straight and into term one, but also after that. And then it's also tactical as well. Do you go for the move into term one, potentially going a bit too deep, and then rely on your energy and your battery to try and defend from the car behind or get a bit more of a slingshot? Or do you wait after term one and then just wait for the smaller DRS zone to then go out the inside there? but perhaps you might not get close enough or you're following the car really closely into term one, you get a bit of aerowash.

And then I think it's brilliant personally. It's the absolute perfect DRS scenario, in my opinion. And Mexico would be similar if they didn't have a really bad detection point where the car who's just passed also gets DRS for the second part of it. So it's a very similar, in theory, it should be similar, but it's obviously different

and has the opposite effect where you're like, Can they come back? Oh, no, they can't because the car that's just passed has DRS again. So no, I'm a big fan, big fan of Interlagos and every single thing it brings as a track. P1 Patreon member, Sophie, asks a question. Interlagos prove the sprint can work without variable weather, but it's clearly track dependent.

Which tracks would be your ultimate tracks for next season's sprint since they're so keen to keep them? All right, let me get the F1 calendar up. into Lagos, into Lagos, into Lagos. It's a difficult one because I think, yeah, Sophie's at the nail on the head here that it is track dependent.

You can still have a good sprint when, you know, we mentioned that the variable weather's helped it a lot this year, but Brazil has delivered three times in a row and yet some other tracks. I saw a couple of, I think you mentioned this, that it made it interesting that the track is so short.

I think that really helps with the sprint. I saw someone mentioned that SPAR doesn't really work for a sprint. I would agree that it's too long for a sprint, in my opinion. And that that short nature of Brazil, I think, just lends it so nicely to it. And I think that's why it works so well. Okay, so my six races are, me out. Barrain short. So do Bahrain, but have Bahrain short as the sprint, mixes it up. We then go to Australia. I think it's okay. It's not too bad. It's a short track.

Got that double DRS zone. We love to see it. I'm literally making this up on the fly, so apologies. I also think Montreal is a very good place to potentially have a sprint next year. I would there say Austria still, short track, promotes itself reasonably well, I think. Of course, we had variable weather, which helped it last time, but I still think it's worthy of having a sprint. Silverstone's verging on a little bit too long of a track, personally. Decent enough. Good enough. It's a good enough track generally in racing.

I would then go, I wouldn't have one at Spa, far too long. trash sprint. I agree. Trash sprint. Monza. I think Monza has potential to be good sprints, although it hasn't really delivered previously, but I think just generally that track has been struggling to deliver as racing.

Brazil, just have it. Just have it two or three times if you want. You know, if you're trying to think, oh, we need six sprints. Just have Brazil three times. That's absolutely fine by now. Just stay there. Yeah.

Just for the end of the season. Forget all the others. Just stay in Brazil. I don't even know how. many sprints I've I've said now but I would include obviously Brazil and then you know Qatar I know I think you've actually I think you're actually on something there that that you just don't have any we get to Brazil and then we just have a bumper sprint week six and we do one sprint a day day and then the main race I'm sure that

would totally work from a commercial standpoint from a Formula One perspective from a sporting perspective, I'm sure that's exactly what they're after. So you feel like F1, write that down. What would you choose, Tommy? I think a couple of others that I do actually think Qatar lends itself really nicely to a sprint. I like the really high speed frantic tracks. That's why I think, yeah, like a bar in short.

That's why I think this one was so good. Qatar, maybe even Hungary. It's the ones that are kind of like. quick, almost go-karty kind of tracks that I just think work where they're like pushing really hard. Could you do like... Could you... I'm just trying to think like,

are there enough tracks where you could have an alternate track layout for a sprint? So like Silverstone, there are alternate track layout. Yeah, because on the F1 game they do, so you do the nationals. Then that alienates. Yeah, all the people in the crowd. Grandstands.

So it wouldn't work. Yeah. I mean, God damn it, making money in Formula One. What about just the fun? Yeah. If there was no crowd, it would be a brilliant idea. Yeah, which is kind of why COVID worked, I guess,

and that's why they did Bahrain short, I suppose. Yeah, true. Okay, cool. We've had a lot of fun with that, and maybe we'll make a full video about that in the off season. So let's go to the start of the sprint race. Let's start there.

Of course, Landon Oss was on pole position or sprint pole or first for the sprint, whatever they're calling it. But he lost out of a... At first time one. And he actually got a decent start. When you looked at the aerial shot, it was almost even Stevens between Vastappan and Norris.

But then in that second phase, that was where, unfortunately, Lando just didn't get the purchase that he wanted. Question, which I'm absolutely disgusted, this has even been put into the atmosphere, from that's frazziness, was anyone entertained past turn one? What race were you watching?

that's frazziness. Were you not entertained after term one? The midfield I was dialed into. Yeah, I know right. There was a fight kind of for the lead for a little while. In terms of the pace and the 1.4, then it got down to one second at one point. And you're thinking,

is Lando Norris genuinely going to get within DRS and fight? But the midfield, I think in this race made the whole race and it didn't matter if it happened 1 by 40 seconds for me. Exactly. If you're having trouble where you can't, If you can't enjoy Formula One when Vastappen's leading, this year is a lot of pain for you because it happening a lot. We worked out on the Twitch actually.

That's his 20th win if you include sprints this year, which is absolutely insane. So we've seen a lot of Max celebrations and Max leading. So if you can't enjoy it when he's leading, yeah, it's not really going well for you. And I think this was the perfect example of the fact that if there's enough, actually going on because when we've roasted the races this year, of course we always mention, well, you know, Max is leading, so it's not made it a particularly exciting championship fight.

But there have been good races where Max has won. And I think this was proof that when there's enough midfield action going on and a lot to look at, you can kind of forget that this happens in the lead and just enjoy what it is. Like I was just grinning ear to ear with that midfield battle. Of course you were as a loneso involved. But if you watch us,

on Twitch. Like, it was just a joy to watch. And that, that is just like, that even though it was for what, eighth or something, it was like, this is why I love Formula One, this kind of racing.

It was lower than that, mate. It was like 12th. Yeah. It was 11th and 12th. Like Ockon and, well, Ocunton was slightly further behind,

but Alonzo and Gassley was fighting. The science train, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. And further down, they were battling. Yeah. So, yeah, it was great.

So, sad to see. And I guess as well, I guess as well, it quashes, even some arguments we maybe had at the beginning of when sprints came out around more drivers even really care if they're fighting for no points.

You say we're you. I was never on that bandwagon. All right, fair enough, all right, cool. Just help me, help me. But no, actually, to be fair, as an argument against that, technically eighth place was up for grabs. So you're wrong. No, but signs did say in our...

Because I asked sides deliberately that question about, you know, is it a myth that you won't go for it even if it's for like 15th and he's like we're animals like we want to race. As soon as they put their helmet on they become something else. Question from Queensland Sincey.

When will Lando no wins finally break the curse? That's what that's that's that is that really that's the horrendous slander. That is not. I mean look, Lando has had opportunities this year. I have said it previously in the podcast

and I'll say it again. He has had opportunities and he hasn't maximised the car but he has also had some incredible races this year where I would argue maybe he's exceeded expectations in that McLaren. To call him Lando no wins is mental. It's like the slander that Charlerckel gets

for having 23 pole positions or whatever he has to his name. Lando is not in a race-winning car right now. He's in a car that can perform in the sort of podium slots and whatnot. not, but yeah, I'm not fine. No one's in a race-winning car because he's always wins.

Yeah, but when is he finally going to break the curse? I'm kind of glad he didn't win the sprint today because I want to see him win a main race rather than the sprint race. Unlike we saw with Oscar Piastri, I know some people are like, oh, what do you know, wins a win, which is fair.

I want to see Lando do really well. But there's a part of me that's like, I just want to see him win a main race first. That would be nice. Yeah, Lando's pole and the sprint was everything you need to know. and also exactly what I said yesterday where when he had the problem in the main qualifying he went well at least there's tomorrow he was like oh yay so it doesn't mean it doesn't mean as much

to them and yeah it's a it's a bit of a silly argument really because you're exactly right with the charlerc thing what was interesting is I saw a stat actually that was like the worst pole position conversions and obviously Shal was at the top but if you look at all the other drivers it was Bottas it was Perez it was

God someone else on the grid as well and that just shows that there's no coincidence that these are all recent drivers and that is because of two people Lewis Hamilton and Max has happened who have dominated the sport now for nearly a decade

if you count Hamilton's dominance and then now Max carrying it on. So they've got so many wins between them. There aren't really many wins up for grabs. So you can't kind of slander Lando for not winning just because he's not had that break yet. And he is desperately unlucky because, you know, Russia was his definitely and should have should have been a win. Sorry to bring it up. But, and even then he wasn't in a car. that should have won. Like, he shouldn't have been at the front of that race

about to win it anyway, just shows his skill. So it will happen. And I really, really do want it to happen now because I think he's been absolutely sensational this year and really would love to see him get a win. Same.

And also back to Charlotte Clair quickly, it's actually a little bit of satisfaction that he doesn't actually have the record for the most polls without a win conversion. There is a driver. I can't remember who it was. Maybe you will know, Tommy. Sorry, I didn't mean without a win.

No, no, no, no. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that. that there's, you know, he's had like 11, an 11 pole streak without winning, but there is a driver from, I can't remember when, who's had like 14. I can't remember who the name of it is, but maybe you'll think to think about it at some point, Tommy, but if not. Okay, it's probably Montoya or something.

No, no, no, it's like an older, older driver. Oh, okay, fair enough. I was mentioned. I was like, oh, he doesn't have the record. That's crazy. I thought he'd have the record. But there is a driver that has actually not done that for longer. So that's good.

Right, so moving on now, Mercedes. Wow, I mean, if you're a Mercedes fan, you, you'd, probably don't want to listen to this too much because they looked rapid at the start, but maybe for good reason because they were going on the attack quite early. And there was a massive drop, especially for Lewis Hamilton, which was surprising. You know, if you were going to put money on a driver falling off in a particular car, you probably wouldn't have chosen Mercedes, and you probably wouldn't have chosen Lewis Hamilton around Brazil. But it was.

It was. It was almost like a reverse uno card of. George Russell and Hamilton the last race where Hamilton was a god on his tyres and Russell was falling backwards and now it was Hamilton that was dropping like a stone at the end to the point where he was actually, he got DRS

down the main straight on the final run to the line by Lecler and... No, sorry, LeClau was already ahead of him. Yeah, sorry, Sainz and Ricardo. Too many Alphanaris and Ferraris in the race. Yeah, Sainz and Ricardo were DRSing him down the straight

so he nearly lost, he could have ended up out the points from his sensational start where he put that absolute peach of a move on Perez around the outside. It was like a glove, like amazing kind of bit of, saw a gap, went round the outside.

They're just going to have to pray that that is just their soft tire pace and the fact that they're thinking, about the main race and they'll be better on the mediums and highs because whether they'll use the softs in the race now would be interesting. I doubt it. Not for 24 laps. No, exactly. So in a weird way, we're actually seeing a sprint that's almost not a spoiler as well because they're probably not going to use the softs. So there's another tick in the box that always have it

into Lagos. I think they will be using the softs to some degree because I mean, Carlos himself gave gave it away that they were saving new softs for for tomorrow. So I think there might be maybe a first stint on the softs, perhaps trying to make up some positions. But not that long, I guess. Exactly. That in itself is hopefully quite a good thing, as you say, for us, that the mediums, I mean, it's weird because you think,

oh, the mediums probably, you know, are the golden tire for tomorrow. But the three drivers that were on mediums made absolutely no progress, even at the end of the race. Like, Hasse were nowhere. Logi Bell was obviously nowhere as well. they're not the three of the greatest test test beds, but also you would expect maybe even Hulk

or whatever to perhaps make some moves towards the end, but their pace was nowhere. So it should make it quite interesting tomorrow. Yeah, yeah. It is odd that of all the people you'd expect to have the race pace and be a bit washed in qualifying as Mercedes but you actually had the

almost the opposite problem. But yeah, hopefully in the race, it's better for them because they've they've seemed you know Brazil is one of their their good tracks particularly like Lewis Hamilton and that was has to be said like quite poor poor performance really from from him very unexpected because it looked like it was like oh we're going to get a Hamilton and Paris fight for that P2 spot they're obviously battling on track but then Hamilton just dropped back like crazy. It was quite soothing for my Ferrari broken heart to see Charles LeCler catching another car

on the same set of tyres and having less degradation or at least having less pain from it. I was like, what universe am I in right now that Charlotte, Claire is catching someone on old soft tires? It was, you know, at Hamilton's expense, I'm sorry, but also, you know, we take those very small victories because they don't happen often. Question, O2, Rachel D. It seems like Mercedes were driving a Williams and Alphotari were driving the Red Bull. Why is Mercedes, well, I mean, that's going to be quite funny, actually, if we go into next year and Alphotari genuinely are driving a Red Bull? Why is Mercedes race pace so bad when that's usually their strength?

You know, we kind of dived into that previously, but I think it was a shock to them, to be honest with you, as to how much they fell off. You saw Hamilton literally sliding in those last sort of five laps trying to get any kind of traction. The car completely fell off, but only on one side. of the garage to some degree because George Russell did a reasonable job. Yeah, he did.

He kept his tyres in check and Hamilton, yeah, sliding around at the end looking like he was on some like 2012 Porelli tires where they had no grip and that hit the cliff. It sounds like boomers, aren't we?

It's just doing an 11 year old reference. Oh, please stop. I can't, my brain can't deal with 2012 being like this boomer reference from ages ago. I still think 2000 is like, Oh, that was 10 years ago. Oh no, it's 23 years ago.

Mad. I know. It is mad. But, yeah, disaster. Let's get on to a good part of the show that you'll enjoy. And that's talking about Alpha Tauri and Yuki Sonoda. P6 for Yuki Sanoda. Only six tenths behind Charles Lecler at the end for P5, which is absolutely mental.

Fro Stylando 4. Are you surprised with Alpha Tauri results? Yes. To this degree, yes. my biggest flop was very much of a you know Alpha Tauri won't be great you know it was maybe a one-off in Mexico but perhaps for whatever reason

Alpha Tauri are performing really well at high altitude let's not forget Interlagos is also one of the highest altitude tracks behind Mexico and for whatever reason yeah they switched on soft tires were brilliant they were great in qualifying and with the race pace and Yuki in particular

showing some some very good form which is very much needed for him when Daniel Ricardo started to shine a little bit. But yeah, very impressed by Yuki in particular, P6, three points, massive for Al-Tauri. Massive. And, you know, kind of maybe as a frustrated Sonoda fan, maybe kind of slanded Al-Fatari a bit sometimes

for going with wrong strategies and stuff, it was absolute masterstroke from them to put on a brand new set of soft tyres because they know that in the race, they're miles behind, they've qualified exceptionally well, and even though it points only go to eighth, if other teams, even though we know it's really hard to compete with those top teams, if other teams have problems and maybe are using older tires like we saw,

they could stick with them. But I was very surprised that Yuki could hold on like that. And move forward, if anything. Yeah, exactly. He was moving forward, like battling, Claire at the end, obviously finished ahead of Hamilton as well, like amazing stuff. And yeah, incredible. Ricardo, I think, should have got science.

Maybe he needed to do a, do a piastri and take science in a kind of unexpected place because he just kept getting undone by the same move where what we mentioned earlier with the DRS overtaking and then being DRS back, maybe needed to do is a classic Danny Rick dive bomb, maybe in like the infield section or something to catch him by surprise instead that might have helped. But yeah, brilliant from Alpha Tauri, Sunoda, like a fantastic result and just goes into that classic thing of the Alpha Tari drivers,

like always seems that one of them is just the absolute goat at a certain time and then is washed in the next race and then there are a goat again. and it's just mad. Yeah, exactly. I mean, Danny Rick didn't, I wouldn't say it was... No, he wasn't bad, but it's just funny how... He was two tense behind signs at the line for a point as well, which is crazy. Next question from Ross Bella 16.

Should Yuki be included in the Red Bull seat debate now? Sure, he's still young, but he's clearly become more consistent this season and is not getting destroyed by Danny like everyone expected. Did everyone expect Yuki Snow did to get smashed by Daniel Ricardo? No, half... people think he would half people would think I mean this this is just

we had so many of these questions and this again is just so funny because next race Daniel Ricardo would probably do something great and we'll be like Yuki's washed Danny deserves the seat and then the next race Yuki does something good

and it's like and then obviously Lawson was the greatest driver of all time a few races ago and it just keeps flip flopping as soon as one guy does well but yeah it's still it's still good from Yuki and he's shown that

the thing I was impressed most about Yuki and I'm so glad he did was he didn't throw it away by doing some lunge on LeClair. I was very worried because I said, I was like five laps still for Yuki to crash into someone and throw it away and then he started racing Hamilton and Leclair and I was like, oh no, just settle for the points even though I don't want you to sail for the points

I mean, he still went for it, didn't you? He still went for, yeah, got the Hamilton move done, which was great. But yeah, didn't maybe do anything too stupid with Shal when he could have easily done because, like you said, he was only seven tenths off in the end. So could have easily maybe done something a bit silly to try and get a P5, but bagged the points, which is exactly what Alphateri need. And yeah, who knows, like what seemed like an absolute long shot. it's not a huge amount of points,

but Williams not doing particularly great. If they keep having these races, it's not completely out of the question that they could leap frog Williams. Well, Williams might be getting one extra point because Hasse have exercised their right to review the United States Grand Prix.

So essentially, the footage that was coming out about Perez cutting every single corner in, well, not every single corner, there was one corner, I'm just being sarcastic, But apparently there's a thing going around that Perez could drop from P4 to P10, which would then give Locke and Sgton one more point.

And Hasse are doing that as well because it would promote Holcomburg, I think. So yes, that's something that could happen, but it's obviously not anything that's been confirmed just yet. We now move to a question from Ticey-46, and it's about TV direction. Surely F-1 has the tech to show the mini-box

and also has a recording, I have a recording without the minibox for the highlights. Don't get why they can't do that. We miss so much stuff without the minibox and seems they use it less and less. Maybe it's too much for them to manage fast. I mean, I've said this before. I didn't say it, you know, categorically,

this is the reason why they do it. I don't know. I just feel as though there is more that can be done with TV direction. I feel like whoever makes the decisions, whether it's Formula One, the TV direction themselves, whoever, I just feel like it's just very samey. From year to year to year to year, we have the same sort of stuff.

There are a few AWS insights that actually give us bits of insight that we actually want. But I don't know, there's key bits of information, and maybe it's because I'm a hardcore that I would love to see in races, you know, or out in qualifying. Is it a new soft? Is it an old soft? Stuff like that that isn't fed to us on a regular basis. which I think helps to paint the picture.

I know that we're obviously talking about the Daniel Ricardo situation in this particular instance, but I think there are ways in which the TV direction could be a bit more fluid in 2023 that can help paint the picture to newer fans especially. But on a more sort of overtaking action level, yeah, I don't know why they're using the action box less. They definitely are. I don't know why.

I think it literally is just a decision they're making. but it is noticeable, especially if you would have seen the uproar from literally Mexico where Daniel Ricardo was trying to pass someone and failed and we had exactly the same thing of Daniel Ricardo trying to pass Carlos signs and then they cut to Max Verstappen, which is fine.

And maybe there's a rule where they have to focus on the leader and that's it when they go over the line. But it's a silly rule. And you don't need to show the garage and then second place. Yeah, and then second and then third. And it's like it's three-tenths,

it's two-tenths. I mean, there's a clip of me screaming on Twitch. Like, just show something. Yeah, the mini box is there. Like, just have DeN Ricardo's onboard pop out so we can see the fact that, yeah, he's like on the wheel tracks. Because that would have been such a thrilling fight. You know, you don't want to watch a gap.

You want to actually see the action. And it's always better live. It's funny you mention about the fact that Formula One hasn't seemed to progress. and this is a rant that could be its own podcast in one thing. But like, little preview. I personally think, and I've had this discussion before, that Formula One is still living in like the 2000s

when nothing happened in the races. And they're set in their ways of like, kind of what you alluded to of like, this must happen, this must happen. The perfect example for me is, that on lap three, they show the start replays. Lap three is when DRS is deployed. You're actually getting a lot of people passing.

Why does it have to be lap three? It's almost like this has always been the way so we do it. But that makes no logical sense because that's when the cars are still close and they've got DRS. So you're kind of missing. And that is exactly what happened. You know, we were watching a thousand replays of the start

and then Hamilton and Perez, I think it was, were already side by side into the corner, so we've missed it. Replays was another thing. Like, you don't need to show three replays of every instant when we're having this incredible midfield battle. It's a 30-minute race. We can watch it afterwards. Like, there's nothing beats the live footage of battles.

And if you're missing it all the time by showing constant and constant replays, it's just very irritating. It's almost as if they could use a small box to show, show a replay and have the main action. Well, Indycar do that brilliantly where they just do a double, like, yeah, like nowadays, the, you know, the, the improvement in quality of, like, televisions and things and people watching in, like, high definition and things like that, you can have, like, a box or then a box

and still see what's going on and stuff. So it seems just silly to me that they're still kind of stuck in their ways of, like, an incident happened let's show four replays and then it cuts back and it's like oh they're still battling but we've missed the whole thing because we have to show 20 different camera angles that are happening it feels as though they just try and push the offering that they have on f1 TV where it's like well if you want more there's an onboard then you can come in the sky f1 have been lauding 20 on boards like it's the greatest revolution since sliced bread when that's been around for years and years and years having 20 on boards

So it's almost as if they do restrict the offering for main just normal race watching and that you go, oh, well, maybe I want to see more. Well, I'll buy F1 TV subscription then. That's the only way I can think of where they restrict the action to some degree. But it's just a bit frustrating, really. And I wish they would show a mini box when Daniel Ricardo's trying to get a point in a big talking point of Alfa Tauri versus Williams in the Constructors, which is a very big storyline.

anyway, rants have been ranted. A 38-minute podcast is quite impressive for a sprint race. It's longer than the sprint race. Yeah, we're getting to almost some of our race podcasts. So we're going to leave it there. It was an amazing sprint. We've got lots to talk about, I think, when we go into the off-season, plenty of things to discuss moving forward into next year.

And I'm sure we will have plenty of time to make three-hour podcast for that. So Tommy, what are your final thoughts, my friend? My final thoughts were going to be just that though we've managed to do a 38 minute podcast on a sprint just into Largos things. What a goated track. We love Interlagos and we also love each and every one of you for listening and watching.

Matt P1 Tommy on Twitch. If you want to come and watch us tomorrow, watch along to the race. I said a lot of watches there. And yeah, remember P1 live show tickets are still available for Manchester in London but they're going very quickly. So if you want to come along and see us in the flesh

do our waffling, then please do. We cannot wait for it. It's going to be amazing. And have a wonderful rest of your day and we'll see you tomorrow. for the Brazilian Grand Prix. Bye! Bye!

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