P1 with Matt and Tommy - Reaction to Canadian GP practice

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

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Thank you so much. Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy, it was a big back today, Tommy, because we are back. Formula One is returning to our screens once more. And I was going to say I'm thoroughly excited for this weekend. But then just remembered what happened in FB1 and FB2. We'll get into that, won't we, Tommy. How are you feeling better than I am?

Probably, probably. Probably, yeah, for sure. Yeah, not the best start at the weekend for your man, was it? For my man. I know that's not you. We are talking, of course, about Charlotte Claire. Before we get into that, P1 live show tickets are still available. However, we are popping out, sold out graphics like they are.

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Of course, it isn't for a while. But you guys are showing a lot of love and a lot of support for it. Thank you so much indeed. Right, let's get into Free Practice 1 then, where the top three were Vastappen, Albon and Sines. And no, that was not the biggest talking point because, of course, the biggest talking point was Charle-Claire crashing out of Free Practice 1,

causing a red flag. And not only did he miss, what, about 35 minutes of Free Practice 1, he also wasn't able to take part in Free Practice 2. I remember telling one of my wonderful friends, Jody, he messaged me, he wasn't watching free practice, he's a big Formula One fan, and I message him, oh, Charles crashed for God's sake. And he's like, oh, big crash. I was like, well, you know, front left, rear left, should be, but he'll be fine for FP2.

Oh, no. He was not fine for FP2. He was not. No, yeah, they needed to replace the survival cell, which is a big crash, you know. I've never, no, correct me if I'm wrong, you don't, you very rarely see a car go into into that wall. Normally it's on the outside of the second part of the chican but we've seen drivers go off

haven't we at that corner and run over the grass. Sebastian Vettel famously of course but never anyone kind of going so far off that they then right the front of the car off and yeah a big impact to put him out of FP2 and a shocker for him because yeah missing out on all that that juicy, juicy data for the weekend.

And look, you know, I will defend my boy as much as I possibly can, but I can't defend him for this one. It was a mistake, a big mistake. And also, you know, he himself believed that he could have made the corner, but couldn't. You know, the reason why we don't see such a strange crash like that is because either one, they're able to gain control of the car sooner and therefore cut over the grass, as you say, Tommy, or just go down the escape road and then we see the funny little reverse

that takes years for them to find reverse and then eventually get out of there. But he committed to making the corner, and he did not, and he's going to be paying the price for that with hardly any data from today, and Ferrari are going to be pretty much solely relying on Hamilton's feedback going into tomorrow. So the question, Matthias Grundy won,

how's Matt feeling after the LeClaire FP1 crash and not participating in FP2? Look, I recall Miami. last year where he he spun didn't he in free practice and couldn't get going again and then he popped in a lovely qualifying so that shal doesn't need practice practice needs shal that's how that's how i want to look at it you know but he was just he's there for entertainment purposes uh i am fine and i still believe that they will just pop it in a lovely p5 p6 tomorrow in qualifying how are you feeling for four hours chances tommy everyone asked me how i'm feeling

about Charlotte Claire. No one asks you. Well, look, I actually, despite, you know, me ribbing you a lot about Charlotte Claire and stuff, I do defend Charles, and I think he's got an unfair reputation when it comes to his kind of pole conversion ratio, which is the thing that everyone sort of like, every driver has their weaknesses, of course, don't they? And a lot of people mention that one. But I actually think Charles' weakness is that these crashes that are kind of enforced where he pushes the car too much. And I think it's, I think for a driver of his calibre that has been racing for so long, I know it's only a practice session, but there's definitely too many of them in his career. And it,

and it seems to be more in, you know, like your practice sessions a lot of the time. I can't think of many other drivers apart from one that we're going to talk about later that have had. had so many sort of incidents where they've kind of ripped a wheel off or or kind of crashed when they're they're pushing when it's not been kind of forced upon them it's just pushing too hard I could have I might have misheard you there but I could have sworn you said charlaclure and weakness in the same sentence that's actually mind so you're denying it and I don't I don't necessarily attach that to him and now that might be me with rose tinted glasses but yeah he does have a mistake in him don't get me wrong but I don't think he's

he's a particularly mistake-prone driver in general. But, hey-ho, you know, that's, you don't have those glasses on. I don't. And actually, because I knew people would come back and say, because I saw someone else on Twitter mention it and kind of got not attacked for it, but was like, oh, you're kind of exaggerating. So just for just for the record, I did actually go back and look.

I was going to say, bring some facts. And you have. And I have. I brought the receipts. Oh, no. So since 2023, so what's that like? In the last couple of years, basically. Miami qualifying, crashed out, Baku qualifying, Baku qualifying, Zanvok qualifying,

Hungary FP2, Baku, FB1, Miami on that outlap, and of course, Canada FP1, which is quite a lot of... That doesn't sound like a long list. That's a long list. That's a long list for a top driver, that is a long list. Well, it's a good job. Well, actually, I will never ask you about Charleclair ever again now that you've brought these facts to the table. Okay, let's move on now to P.1 Patreon member Alan Enderpe's question.

What is going on with Ferrari? First the rumours and now the mistakes. It is absolute rife rumor mill at the moment. You've got Christian Horner going to Ferrari. You've got Christian Horner going to Alpine. You've got Hamilton not being happy. You've got Charlotte Claire exploring his options. It is just probably a lot of it, absolute BS, if we're being completely honest.

But in the same time, it's an environment where everyone's trying to gain an advantage, both as a team and also individually. Yes, someone, Horner might have spoken to certain teams or drivers might speak to teams. That is literally what happens all the time. It's not like they're, you know, they're sat there like, okay, so the end of my contract is end of 2026, we'll start talking to teams at the end of 2026. That's just not how it works. So what is going on with Ferrari?

I mean, it's been the case since the mid-2000s, to be honest with you. So not really much has changed. Fred's popping off in the media as well. He was. He was very sassy in the press conference, wasn't he? Yeah, he really was. Yeah, yeah, he was. He basically kind of had a go at the Italian media,

basically saying, like, leave Ferrari alone, which I get to a point. but Ferrari are the most legendary and successful Formula One team, and they've not won for a very long time. So it's understandable why they'd get criticised because they went into the season very hyped and with big expectations after what happened at the end of last year. And actually we've gone into it and McLaren are completely, you know, clear. And Ferrari, you know, they're in second in the Constructors Championship, which I think flatters them. It's more the fact that they've got two very strong drivers in there. But all these rumors about Fred, I've said there's so many times.

You can't keep replacing team principles and expecting it to fix stuff. There's clearly bigger problems than just like football team, just replacing the manager all the time. There's bigger things at play here, and they need to start investigating that more than just throwing the person under the bus who's in charge every single time and going, are Bonotto's rubbish Oh, Versa's rubbish, get them all out

You know, there's obviously more at play here With what's going on at Ferrari Because they are a team with a lot of pressure But it's more to it than the team principle Yeah, I'm not sure that Fred can have too much of a go At the media because as you say, A lot of people expected at the bare minimum The Constructors title this year

Just purely because of where Ferrari ended last year and how there was expectations with the driver line up, with the new revamped car. Everything was pointing towards Ferrari cooking up a masterclass, but sadly that did not happen. Also Hamilton-liking Insta-posts as well. What's this part? I've missed this small detail.

So there's a Hamilton, Liz Hamilton fan page that was basically posted a big Instagram post that was like Lewis Hamilton's not happy in the team and has found it difficult to kind of gel with Ferrari and all this kind of stuff. And it was liked by Lewis Hamilton. And this post kind of... This isn't some bait post.

No, no, he liked that post, yeah. Wow. And kind of went in a little bit of like Hamilton not being happy and things like that and is not gelling with Ferrari. So, yes, very interesting. Let's add to free practice too, where the top three were Russell, Norris and Antonelli with championship leader Oscar Piastri down in P6,

four tenths off the pace. Question from Craig Tilly 95. Are McLaren sandbagging? Well, my goodness gracious me, they were baiting us for most, well, the entirety of free practice one, where they ended seventh and fourteenth. And then for the majority of free practice two as well,

myself and you Tommy we were messaging like nah they're just using the softest tire they don't want it doesn't matter but are they ever going to put a lap in it felt like they were literally running a different track for most of today because they just kept going straight on at the last chican they were like they don't want anything to do with that wall of champions mate if i see even the smallest lockup i am going straight on and that will be that I think Norris at the hairpin was really struggling as well.

And I don't think McLaren a sandbag. I genuinely think they are struggling to some degree. They wouldn't be just... There's a form of sandbagging where, of course, you turn the engine down. I don't think there's a form of sandbagging of... Landau, do you want to just like lose the rear at the hairpin? Or just go straight on a few times at the last chicane. That's not the case.

But I think it's clear to see that the McLaren's not dialed in at the moment. Yeah, what have they got to gain from sandbagging? everyone knows their pace. They know that they are mighty this year and are looking almost unstoppable. But certainly in practice, this is easily the worst we've seen McLaren at any point this season,

which is crazy because they are, Lando is 0.02 off the fastest time. But they were struggling. They had updates as well, didn't they, which they are now wondering, whether they continue with or they revert back and there's a bit of confusion there. And they didn't look dialed in at all. And we're so used to McLaren, even if it is, even if it gets closer in the qualifying sessions,

we're so used to McLaren coming out on a Friday and just being absolutely dominant. Yeah, it's been the other way, hasn't it? Yeah, they're normally clear. We've turned the wick up a little bit, like relax. So, yeah, for whatever reason, McLaren't. and do look a little bit on on the back foot whether that's uh you know uh because of the the unusual tire allocations again and maybe people not not showing their hands because it was another confusing one with the the compounds wasn't it and the fact that uh we've got the fastest time of

of george russell on mediums but norris on soft and then albin on mediums in p4 yeah so for those you that have missed it this is the third time we've seen the softest allocation for the porelli's the C4, the C5 and the C6, the C6 being the softest. But I mean, it's confusing in some ways because they bring this tire in or this tire set, which we don't see all that often. But it has been pretty consistent every time they've brought these three tires, that the soft and the medium have been very comparable. And then it's a case of them all just using softs in the first couple of practice sessions. But yeah, it's going to make qualifying pretty interesting because as much as the mediums are a great tire to potentially do an extra lap in qualifying,

they are balancing the tire allocation like no tomorrow, because if you get a badly time safety car like we saw in Spain, and you might not have a set of tires that you need at the right time. It's exactly what happened to Max, wasn't it, in Spain, they didn't have the soft tires. So it's weird how much practice is actually counting towards this because of the tire allocations now. They have to be careful on these things. exciting now Tommy.

Well. You're saying. You get a bit rolled up. You know what? I actually enjoyed that session quite a lot. And I spent a lot of the time going, I really, really like Montreal as a track. It's a brilliant, brilliant track. I'd love to visit it one day.

Yeah, definitely. It's a great place. Okay, next question. Polsky Pollock underscore 2. Are the mediums a faster time for qualifying than the softs? Pretty close. Of course, Russell, fastest on the mediums. You'd have to say that the softs probably still have an advantage if you

they're able to to keep the tires within a great window for that soft, that obviously is a one-lap tire. It's quite low to sort of, it's reasonably low in terms of tire degradation, and that's the reason why they've brought it for this, for this circuit. But it's going to be close, but I think it's not the case of whether it will work or not. I think it's clear that it will with Albon up and forth as well in the mediums,

but it's whether or not they're willing to essentially burn a medium tire that they may well need at a different point in their, the race. So I love it. I'm really enjoying what Porelli have done. Bringing this, this softer step is what we need, I think. I would love for them to explore having bigger steps in the tire compounds, C2, C4, C6, something like that, make it a little bit more of a step, because they've done a good step in terms of making it softer, which is kind of going to more, or trying to dip their toes a little bit towards sort of 2012 and those days where you had three, four stops.

But maybe that was a long way off that. But it's enough, isn't it? And like I say, I'm really, I'm really pleased that the learnings from Imala seem to have carried over into this where it's made, made things a bit more interesting. And his hoping that we get another interesting race and qualifying like we do at Imla, I wouldn't be surprised if maybe we see some people try and risk. get on the mediums to get through like we saw of course in Imola. P-1-Patry member, Cuck Rubin asks,

should Lance Stroll still be an F-1 after another poor showing? It's painful watching him race when other talented drivers cannot get a seat. This is not a meritocracy, sadly. It is a cash moneyocracy for some drivers for sure. I'd love Lawrence Stroll to say that in a press conference when he's asked. But yes, of course, Lance Stroll crashing. I was going to say brushing the wall. It was more like clattering into the wall with his front left.

It's weird the way it hit it. And then it just... And then it just buckled, didn't it? I'm gone. He's got away with that. Wait. No, he hasn't. And then he thought, I can bring this back to the pits.

No, you can't. Your front left is basically in the cockpit, Lance. Please stop the car. But should he still be an F1? It doesn't change the conversation. here. Lance Stroll is the number one Astor Martin driver. We all know that. He's still higher than Alonzo

in the driver's standings and it will remain that way for at least another race or two until Fernando gets some good luck. But until that point, yes, Lanstrol should still be an F1. I don't think you should still be an F1 but he will be an F1 because his dad owns a team. Exactly. Any other driver that's driven the way he has in his career wouldn't be there.

but he is and he will continue to be there even if he's got still maybe issues with his hand or something we don't know he was very it's all a bit suspicious isn't it this whole situation and he spent the whole press conference with it hidden away in his pocket and didn't really answer any questions about it and things like that very very unusual situation it's bizarre the whole thing's bizarre

because you think, okay, he sat out of the last race to get his wrist done so he can come back fighting for his home race, the Canadian Grand Prix. He could not look like he wanted to be there less, genuinely. He was so underwhelmed. And I know that Lance generally in the media isn't particularly excitable, but I was like, of all the places, I thought this was what you were kind of doing it for. But it's just not really, not really gone his way so far. But speaking of the next question, it has for them.

P1, Patreon member, R&B, sheep, are Williams cooking? I'll tell you what, James Vals. What a man. You know, there are some team principles that can't change things at Ferrari. But my God, get James Vowls in that red overalls. We would be, we'd be winning everything come 2028. Yeah, William's looking really good. After a horrendous weekend in Spain, they've bounced back.

we were thinking, hold on is, William's the second fastest team around Canada? Not quite, but I think they could definitely trouble the coattails of the top eight. You've got Alonzo up there as well with a very solid lap up in P5.

But no, Williams have looked really, really good and I'm excited to see if they can get in the mix and score some massive points this weekend. It's a very Williams track, isn't it? I think Fred Vassar even joked with, James Vals when they said in the press conference something along the lines of oh Williams are really good this weekend and the sir went over it said because there's no corners jokingly wow I love how Williams still have that sort of yeah

this is what my our car is which is just yeah which is so weird because that's not the case anymore and it and it is weird because they they really kind of dismissed that that they were just this team that would be rubbish or year and then be able to get an amazing result in Monza and just bag a load of points. And it kind of disappeared and they were kind of good at every tracks. But they've almost got the best of both worlds because they still go to these power tracks and just seem to be absolutely mighty. So they do seem to be able to set up the cast so well for these circuits.

And unfortunately, last time out in Barcelona, you know, that is just the worst kind of circuit for a Williams and their team and they've always struggled there. But this one is really well suited. So it's going to be, they could be on for a really, really good result. But that being said, you know, it's so hard for in that, that kind of midfield, top of the midfield between Fernando Alonzo's in there. The racing bulls are looking pretty good as well. You can never count them out and then well we're yet to see where the step and is at playing all this um crazy to think what a year makes that um he's p9 and fp2 and it's not really even a talking point anymore no that's not really a talking point um you've got obviously his teammate sonoda down in 15th

Hamilton in in 8th there's there's a few drivers that you might suggest that at a position of course it's practice so uh i'm i'm looking forward to fp3 Let's see if McLaren can dial their issues and sort that out because they're by no means a dominant car from what we've seen on Friday. Can Mercedes finish an entire qualifying session without breaking down? Plenty of questions and we will be there to live it all on our watch along. Matt P1, Tommy, on Twitch and YouTube. We will be live. It's a lovely evening session.

Might get the beves out. We'll see how we feel. Crack open a tinny. Tommy, what are you? What are your final thoughts? I mean, it's set up so nicely. I can't wait for qualifying and I hope this kind of unknown continues because it's quite rare in a normal dry qualifying that it keeps us guessing so much. It almost feels like it's been like a wet track or something kind of thrown weirdly into the mix. I know it was a very green circuit, as they say, which had the...

very low grip, but no, it's been good. I was just looking at my predictions, seeing how I'm looking after Friday practice. And good surprise, Kimmy Antonelli, yeah, pretty good. Big flop Isaac Hadjar, beaten by Lawson and FP2. And the one thing I did want to cover off because I saw some comments where I just can't read was that my Patreon prediction that I said was Eddie, this, my middle name, is actually Edith is my middle name. No way.

Eddie did it? Did you not clock when I said that? No, because I didn't have it in my sheet, did I? So I didn't. Oh, no, you wouldn't have. Yeah, yeah. So Edith is your, it's my middle name. I didn't see a load of the comments going, Edith.

It's Edith. I was like, what? Eddie this, my middle name. There you go. Thank you, everybody. We'll see you soon. Not to love. Bye!

Goodbye. What the hell? Where's the bye, Tommy? Were you processing? Goodbye That was the most delayed by I've ever heard in my entire life Anyway, bye

The flop What the flop? No, what? You can tell it's late Oh, it's late I was going to say the chore And I said the flop Am I all right?

My chore is to Go to bed Go to bed and don't get the flop out Perfect P1 is a stack production And part of the A-Col created network.