P1 with Matt and Tommy - Reaction to Dutch GP qualifying

Episode Date: August 30, 2025

Qualies at Zandvoort delivered plenty of storylines and some teeny tiny margins at the top of the grid. Matt is back online and discusses it all with Tommy!The P1 Live Show is coming to Australia in May 2026 with shows in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth! Some of the shows are nearly sold out, so get your tickets now! http://tix.to/p1ausThe Delusion Tour is also coming to cities in the UK, Europe and North America later this year. Get those tickets here: tix.to/p1liveFollow us on socials! You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Twitch, YouTube and TikTok. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. We are here to reflect on some Dutch Grand Prix qualifying. Now, before we get into all of that, Tommy, of course, something that we did, we did recently, was P1 Live Show, Australia, announced it. And they're selling pretty fast. That's what I've heard on the down low. Absolutely. Yeah, if you go online, check the tickets. There's not so many seats left in certain places.

So if you don't want to miss out, make sure you grab them while you can. Exactly. So, right, let's just dive into it. It's been so long since Formula One actually occurred, and we need to discuss what we just witnessed. Because Zanvort has, even on the run-up to this, right, in practice, there were so many mistakes, so many sort of mistakes we don't expect to see as well,

such as your boy, Tommy, makes what happened, you know, having a little escapade into the gravel, practicing for clearly starting P3 on the grid, which is what he managed to do. But let's get a Q1, where the bottom five was Colopinto, Holcombeg, Ocon, Behrman and Stroll. What are we sort of getting from this?

Holkenberg, you know, I'm looking at those five. He's on a run of real stink. It's almost like Silverstone happened, and he went, done. I've got my trophy, I don't care anymore. I joke, obviously, I'm not saying he's given up. He's had a great season, It's been a slow few races, especially in qualifying,

knocked out in Q1 a lot of the time, and just generally seeming to, for whatever reason, go much further backwards when Salber brought upgrades to bring it right into the midfield, it seemed. Yeah, definitely. I mean, it's very close in qualifying. We know that amongst the kind of midfield, which is now seemingly like everyone but McLaren.

But the fact is that Salber, Yeah, they've had these moments where they've done really well. But even when Holcomberg got his great results, he'd qualified quite poorly then, to be fair. So he's not actually been that good. He's not actually... No, he's not been that good at Quali this year, weirdly. His fifth place in Spain, I think he was like 20th as well on the grid. So I think it's a mix of the fact that, yeah, we just kind of so used to seeing him at the front,

that it's a surprise when we've kind of seen him at the back because we're now constantly going, oh, Holcomburg has had a really good year. He's really low down there. But it's kind of been a trend. And Bortletto, I have to say, has been brilliant, particularly in qualifying. And he is cooking Holcomburg and qualifying.

It has to be said. Cooking him, absolutely. First question, and of course, no surprises of who this is about. Gavin Curley, 90. How many more times will Aston Martin tolerate Lance Stroll crashes? they will tolerate it an unlimited amount of times. I think this is the first driver in history that will literally get a free pass no matter what happens.

Look, Lance Stroll had a great opportunity this weekend. There is no doubt about this. I think Alonzo will get onto him, but I feel like a missed opportunity just in general for Aston Martin. Perhaps the conditions changing slightly and qualifying meant that they went backwards slightly, but Lance has had a stinker of a weekend. There's no doubt about that, but it's not like this is unheard of.

We know that Lance has poor weekends. We know that Lance can occasionally score some great points. But a lot of the time, a lot of people are questioning why he's still in that team. But we know why. We don't need to go into what his father's involvement is in Astor Martin. But that is the free pass. I don't think there is a, if you crash, 20 of the 24 races, Lance, you've gone. I don't think there's anything in his contract to say, enough is enough.

No, I don't think there's any, I don't think there's any way he can be so bad they'd get rid of him because we've already had this conversation last year. If anything, he's actually having a decent, particularly in the points, like decent season in terms of like points scoring. Well, same as Alonzo. I keep reminding and I will keep reminding and as long as it happens, Tommy, because I remember you said at the start of the season about the championship fight between Charlotte Claire and Lance Trull. Well, now it's a fight between the two teammates. indeed but you look at where Lance is in the was in like people's drive ratings and things he's not had the greatest of seasons but last year was as bad as it got for for stroll he was having these kind of crashes all the time and we were having this debate of some people were still saying like

oh how bad does it have to get before he's gone and they kept him this year they're going to keep him until, you know, the end of time or until, I don't think it's even until Lance decides he wants to quit. It's till Lawrence decide he wants Lance to quit. And yeah, it is an embarrassing crash because he crashed in practice where a lot of people went off, so you kind of could excuse it on a difficult track. You're finding the limit in practice, but that's all practice. You're trying to find that limit, so then you get into qualifying and you know not to push too much that you're going to crash. And it wasn't even the

tiniest misjudgment, was it? He got his entire wheel on the grass. We initially were like, oh, he's dipped a wheel. You watch the offboard. His wheel is fully in the grass. Yeah, yeah. That complete misjudgment. I know it's a narrow track, but of course,

these are the best drivers in the world. You can't really forgive him. You can forgive a driver, perhaps, when they dip half a wheel, or, you know, when they're in the wet and they put a slight wheel on the curb, and it spits them out. This was a big error from Lance and one that, yeah,

he could have easily been in Q3 for sure. Question from Pee on Petrie member, Glush. Do we need to revoke Hulk's title of being a qualifying monster? Well, look, we've reflected on it. I don't think he ever had that title. It was more that he's been able to

somehow turn disastrous qualities into great races. We've got some conditions, maybe, although it seems like it's going to be more in the morning. isn't it, Tommy, that we get the rain tomorrow. And, well, we've seen the most overtakes in history around Zandvort a couple of years ago. So anything can happen.

But I think he can't rely, this is Holcombay. He can't rely on having these 20th to fifth places if he wants to consistently score points. So he's had two or three awesome results this year. And it's not taking anything away from him. But like, you just think of how much better he could be doing if he was putting himself in Bortoletto's position, especially more recently when it comes to qualifying. Yeah, Holkenberg, you've hit the nail on the head there with Holkenberg's championship. It's not like he's finishing 9th and 10th every single race and he's stacking up points after

points. Like, you know, you look at someone like Alex Albin's tally, it's very, you've got a lot of points this year. And that's more kind of through, yeah, occasionally like big results, but consistency. But Holkenberg's points have just been with these insane moments where, yeah, he's got a P5 in Spain or a podium or the first race, I think he was seventh or eighth, wasn't he, in Melbourne. So, yeah, he's just basically had like four or five races where he's just bagged loads of big points. And yeah, he can't. It's not actually been that consistent, weirdly,

in qualifying all the races. No, he's not. Let's head to Q2 then, where the five drivers out were Antonelli, Sonoda, Bortoletto, Gazzley and Albon. Of course, when you're thinking of scalps, a Mercedes driver going out in Q2 is not great, but then again, Antonelli has been on a run of form of being knocked out quite early in qualifying recently. Although, I think it looks worse than it is. Starting 11th is not great for Antonelli, but I literally remember in the watchlong going, ah, yes, Antonelli was, I think, just under two-tenths of a second behind George Russell, but he got knocked out.

And it was very close indeed, but he was on the wrong end of a few milliseconds and in 11th place. So I don't think it's a disaster of a weekend for Antonelli. George Russell's not exactly been challenging for poll himself. But yeah, it was close to get through. And it's, I don't know if it's a building block. Is it a building block?

Has he improved? He's improved from what we've seen recently. We didn't think that was coming after the incident in free practice that he had. So early on in Free Practice 1, in fact. But yeah, I don't think it's a complete disaster, but perhaps he'll be kicking himself a little bit that he was knocked out in Q2. A little bit, yeah, it is weird to be talking about an 11th place for a Mercedes of,

oh, it's not actually too bad. It is that nature of how close everything is and two tents, unfortunately, and we've said this many times with that second Red Bull seat, sometimes you can be the tiniest little bit off your team teammate. this was two tenths which is a decent margin still, particularly around a very short track. But just with that nature of how close everything is, it tumbles you right down the order. And even a tenth now can be the difference between like five positions. That's just how Formula One is in 2025.

It really is. Alex Albon was another driver, absolutely fuming after qualifying. Again, you know, we've heard it a few times, haven't we? we've joked about Alex Albon being a slightly angrier side of him. But I think it's because he just has full expectation now of Williams being in the points and challenging for those top positions. And he clearly wasn't happy with a process that happened in qualifying. I don't know if you've had any sort of information as to what exactly he was upset about

because we're recording straight after Quali. But it seemed like it was very much a prep thing that he wasn't happy with. than because he said he had no tires, didn't he, in that lap. So it's a shame for Albon because, of course, signs made it through into Q3. And it's very much been an Alex Albon season so far. And that's probably why again he was a bit, well, I say a bit he was rather annoyed. Yeah, he basically what he said after qualifying was that he was frustrated by the actual timing of his run.

So he believes that a slow outlap where he was caught behind traffic meant that he failed to make Q3 and if he just had a normal kind of outlap he would have been fine he believed so it's incredibly frustrating and again you know the closeness of the field means that these tiny

mistakes are being punished massively because we've we've kind of been used to seeing Albin doing these brilliant results and actually Carla Sainz being the one that's had difficult qualifying sessions but this time it was the complete opposite really

certainly was Bortoletto, of course, we've mentioned, but I think he'll be very happy with 13th, considering he was at risk, wasn't he, in Q1, from losing a spot in Q2 to his own teammate, but Nico didn't manage to get a lap in. Surprised to see Gazley only in 14th.

It felt like that was like a, a Gazley Q3 inbound. It felt like that for a bit of that qualifying session, didn't it, where he might have just thrust this Alpine into places it didn't belong, but only 14th for him. Yeah, only 14th for Ghazley. couple of places ahead of Colapinto.

Of course, Colapinto has been under pressure still. We don't know if he's going to keep that seat. It really does depend how his form goes. If he's only a couple of places behind Gasly, you think maybe he'd keep it, but it is Alpine, so you never know. But they're just nowhere, really, are they Alpine? You just have the odd race where Gasly can thrust it into some brilliant points

in a crazy race and otherwise they're just pretty much nowhere. And then finally, Yuki, I think, you know, they all have their own little storyline, don't they for Q2 where I literally remember the amount of people in the watchlong celebrating that Yuki made it through out of Q1 because it was close again. P12, it's just kind of in that meh territory, isn't it? It's not going to write any headlines, but it's also not going to write any headlines for the wrong reasons as well. So it's a, yeah, a very close.

once again, I think it was what, three quarters of a second separating a ridiculous amount of drivers. But yeah, Yuki, obviously 12th, max ending up in P3. Is that the standard we just have to be used to now for the rest of the season? The weird Red Bull situation. I said in the live shows, actually, because we had a lot of questions about Yuki Snowdo during our live shows in the Netherlands and saying like, do you think you'll stay? How do you think it's going to go? and I said that, you know, the only way Yuki can lose his seat is if Hadjar does something amazing.

And sure, yeah, lo and behold, into Q3. What did you say, Q1? What did you say in Q1 during the long? I said, well, for context, I was like, yeah, because this is the thing about rookies now, and the hype's kind of gone towards Bortoletto and Lawson was having a great, doing a great job. think even Lawson did an amazing Q1 run where he popped it all way up in P5 or something. So we knew that R.B had pace, but I said, you know, Lawson's back now. Hadjar's not maybe been looking as good as he has at the start of the season.

And boy, did he take that person. Popped it in P4. Absolutely love it. And then, of course, the whole talk about, what if Max was in that racing ball, he would have been able to challenge the McLarence. I'm just... I don't know how I feel about that. Just respect Hadjar for doing a good result before you immediately jump on.

And this is going from a Max Verstappen fan before you just kind of discredit Hadjar for being like, oh, well, if Max was in that car, he'd be on pole position. You just don't know. You just don't know that that's the case. No, no, you really don't. Let's it to Q3 then, where the top 10 were Piastri Norris for Stappan, Hadjar, Russell, Lecler, Hamilton, Lawson, signs. and Alonzo.

We've mentioned very briefly about Hadjar. I think we go into a question about him at BXSSOG. Will Hadjar be in the Red Bull before the end of the season? No, no, he won't. Can we not? No, I really don't think so. I can't see it. I can't see any realm where Red Bull make another switch.

They've committed to Yuki. That's everything that's come out of that team is that they're going to commit to Yuki. And I think that's absolutely fair enough to commit to Yuki as well. it's gone, it's done this season. And to be fair, that car, you can kind of see it as just in the bin now, because from the end of this season, it doesn't matter. Like, we've got a complete fresh slate into next year. That's where maybe more question marks are of,

do they go for Hajjar if they think that he's got more potential? They can literally just compare the data and the telemetry. They know how well Hadjar versus Sonoda is doing, although I think Yuki's got a bit of an unfair test with that one. So no, I can't see it. It doesn't matter if Hadjar wins the race tomorrow. he won't be in the Red Bull this season? No, I don't think he will either.

They're not going to make that switch now. And if anything for Hadjo, it's probably much better that if he continues performances like this, he can go into the new season and, you know, he goes into the new season and has a chance in that Red Bull with a regulation change, which he will hope if he does get that promotion, isn't this nightmare second seat. That's the dream scenario for him. that he moves there and of course

we have no idea how 2026 is going to go but you think you're going to be better placed being the second Red Bull Driver in 26 than you would be in 2025 because all the evidence has already been kind of proven in 2024 and

2025 of what it's like to be Max's teammate in this current regulation set yeah and what better time than to try and stop the second Red Bull Seat curse than to be there at the start of the regulation change where you can be like, no, no, no, that front way, that front is very pointy. Can we rein that back in now rather than in two years?

Okay, cool. Next question, P-1Petra, remember Edith is my middle name. What happened to Aston? Alonzo looked set to take top five and then pace fell away. I, it must have been the condition, surely. I know it's quite close in qualifying, but still Alonzo ended up, what, three tenths off of Shal in six? and I was sort of tipping him to be in the top five

and I kind of stupidly put him in third for my little social prediction. But yeah, I think they will be very upset, Will Aston Martin, Alonzo 10th, and of course Lance Stroll with the crash. And they've gone over 50 points now, Tommy. So it doesn't really matter what they do from here. Your prediction won't come in for the whole season

about it being less than 50 points. But yeah, it genuinely looked like, especially from practice, I know you have to take it with a pinch of salt, it looked like their upgrades from Hungary had really taken them a step forward and perhaps they still have but we didn't really see it today.

No, we definitely got you know, maybe there was a case that we maybe got a little bit baited by what they were doing in FP1 and FP2 because you look at FP3 which is meant to be the most representative session based on qualifying and they were down in 8th and 10th so Alonzo

you know he was very good during those sessions and I think just the fact that how quick they were FB1, FB2 and the fact that we saw how well they did in the last race it kind of felt like right Asa Martin are back

this is their chance to get a great result but sadly for them they weren't really anywhere so maybe Lance isn't too disappointed because I think if Alonzo had been up in like a third or as

we kind of saw what was what was happening it on Friday, then that's where Aston Martin really kicked themselves even more that they'd have only had one car in there, but just a 10th place for Alonzo. So obviously Alonzo, you know, he is the absolute extreme. He is the limit of the car, isn't he? Yeah, of course.

Yeah, exactly. So he's the benchmark for sure, I know. Next question, P1Pitch, remember, Anastasia W. What happened on the last lap in Q3? Why wasn't McLaren able to improve their laps? Lando kind of touched upon it after Quali about the wind direction.

I think that was very key in terms of lap time round here. If it's changing, if it's gusting, sometimes the conditions of the track can get worse. And I think that was the case there. I think Oscar seemed like he got a little bit of a toe as he came over the line to set what would have been, what was pole position, in fact. And 12,000ths of a second between the two of them,

you do wonder if that little toe, I think he got from a racing ball, gave him pole position at the end of the day, that little bit of advantage. But both of them lost a bit of a bit of, the time, I think, in the last sector. So yeah, it's probably just wind playing apart. It wasn't like it was a massive drop off from either of them. I think they were both still within a tenth of their lap time. But we didn't see that step up that we tend to see, do we, with track evolution.

No, I don't know what it is about the wind and these cars being so sensitive because, of course, in the last race at Hungary, the whole thing flipped on its head with the tiniest bit of wind direction. but maybe, yeah, just the fact that that just slight difference meant that the McLaren's couldn't really go any quicker. They were still very close. And maybe it's just a case with McLaren. Sorry, Tommy. It kind of is more highlighted for the McLaren's because they had two new sets of tires to go at.

So obviously them not improving is like, oh, why didn't they improve? Everyone else did, but no one else had the pleasure of having so many sets of new tires. fail. Yeah, so you wonder what others might have done had they done their new tyres first, potentially, if the McLarence were slower, or maybe, you know, their bankers were so good and that car is just so beautifully dialed in that they, the second lap, they can push you a little bit further, maybe take a few more risks, but you didn't really see any mistakes or anything. it was just an incredibly close thing and yeah what a shootout again

between the two championship contenders just absolutely nothing between them nothing between them and yeah these are the moments aren't they where Piastri just edging Norris when it's looked like Lando has had the upper hand in practice but that just shows right when you get those competitive sessions

it can still be very close They have different run plans in practice. And as much as we want to read into everything, and be like, oh, Lando's got the advantage. He's had three out of the last four wins. He's been fastest in practice. But it's Oscar that came through. And these are the small, finite margins that will change this championship.

Because I think it's going to be very difficult for Landau to beat Oscar tomorrow. But I think similarly to Hungary, Lando will have the freedom to attack Oscar whatever way he wants. So whether that's a different. strategy, whether that's an aggressive undercut, aggressive overcut, going for a literal another pit stop. They are going to be light years ahead of everybody else that we could see a very similar situation to Hungary or like in the past, you know, it's been Hamilton versus Vestappen in Spain, for example, where we will get different strategies because I don't,

I don't know if Lando will pass him on track. Yeah, it would be incredibly. Yeah, oh yeah, definitely. It'd be very difficult for, you need a quite a big offset in, pace to be able to make an overtake around here. So the McLaren's are going to be incredibly close. It's all going to come down to the start, really, with Oscar and Lando, because Lando's going to have his work cut out, not just the fact that he's in second. Because I don't think... Who's got behind him?

Exactly. I don't think he might have happened. The guy that practiced a dive bomb and then beached it in the gravel. Exactly. So he's already practiced a very late breaking maneuver. And while I don't think that Red Bull have... a prayer of beating the McLaren's normally. That's not to say that Vestappen won't be able to get him into turn one and then, you know, maybe we have a repeat of last year where Lando has too much pace

for him and gets him by later. But of course, if that happens, Oscar might be too far down the road. Well, we've seen it already this year, haven't we? We've seen it already with Max getting involved. Yeah, and you, well, and equally, you saw it in Hungary where weirdly Lando's bad start, which dropped him behind another car, which meant that Oscar could go off, meant that he then had to do something completely different strategy. It was a good start that turned into a bad start and then, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Because he'd have a good start. Yeah, exactly. But basically, like he, that allowed him to take that gamble. And if Max gets ahead of him and splits the two McLaren's, you bet Lando is going to do some absolutely ridiculous strategy, whether he pits early as soon as he gets a gap and tries to undercut, piastri or go really long and hope for a vSC or something so we could absolutely see that happening

again i think yeah and especially if you know sin commentators saying that landau has more pace i think it's quite close between the two of them whether he'll be able to utilize that that's what they're going to be looking at overnight tonight for sure question from peon on bet you remember has kay is norris not being able to take his pace into quali going to be the reason he won't win the World Drivers' Championship. Bro lost out by 12,000s of a second. Let's just relax here for a second, shall we? Like, this is, I know we love a knee-jerk reaction.

And sometimes, sometimes, you know, these reactions are a little bit more fair. This one is not. Like, it was so close in qualifying. We've already spoken about many drivers that were so close to either getting through to Q3 or, you know, they were close to their teammate, but still got knocked out, whatever it might have been. this I think it's more just a case of Oscar once again delivering and doing what he does best, which is putting in a great lap and asking the question to Lando.

And Lando wasn't able to perhaps utilize to the absolute extreme potential that he may be shown this weekend. But that's not to say that he won't be able to win the world championship, especially now if we are getting into a run of races now where McLaren are going to be so clear that it is very much a head-to-head dog fight between the two of the three of, them where Lando, even if he starts second, can use a different strategy to try and beat Oscar. The problem was when the Maxes, the Shiles, were getting involved and actually affecting either Lando or Oscars race, usually Lando's, to be honest with you. This will be a different complexion, I think, for the rest of the season, because McLaren,

they are so clear, and I don't see why that will change now, considering we're heading into new regulations. We might get the odd anomaly with changeable weather or whatever. But overall, I think this is going to be the running trend. Yeah, absolutely. It's funny with Lando because he gets his criticism and sometimes it's fair when he's had a race like, I don't know, like Saudi where he's crushing qualifying and he should be doing better. But he also gets some really unfair criticism. and just because he's fastest in practice, when it's literally a practice session, which means nothing,

and then he's 0.01 off his teammate in qualifying and suddenly like, oh, yeah, this is why he's not going to win the World Championship. Like, I'm sorry, but you cut it. I think it's really dangerous to write him off and think that, because equally, I don't understand

it's always about like Lando's not good enough and not giving like Oscar some credit as well but in this situation they're just so so so close It's always a dead heat It's literally a dead heat And Lando was faster really And you know

I know it's if but some maybes But say tomorrow you never know what's going to happen Oscar Piaastri wins race Lando second It's still very close But say Lando does be Oscar Then it's four out of five And then the whole narrative flips and suddenly it's like, oh, Landers got the momentum,

Lando's going to win the championship. It's just too close to call. So I think it's crazy to sort of say that Lando can't win the world championship and he's not going to win it by the fact that I personally, you know, Lando's made some mistakes this year and has had some races where you can consider him like bottling it. But this, like him being 0.01 of his teammates because he was fastest in qualifying is not.

not a bottle like at all. But we know what you're saying. Practice, sorry. Yeah, it's fine. It's not, it's not a bottle. It's not a bottle, no, no, for sure not. No, for sure not. If it's three, four, five, tenths off, then, you know, we open that conversation up.

This is, you know, it's very much a, you know, which way is the wind blowing quite literally. Yeah, so true. So, yeah, there you go. We've reflected on qualifying. We've not really touched upon Ferrari, I guess. Do we need to? Do we need to touch upon it?

I mean, to be honest with you, I'll take a sixth and seventh. The fact that Charlotte actually beat Lewis Hamilton when Hamilton looked faster than Charles for a lot of qualifying, I will also take. To be honest, being under a second behind McLaren,

I will also take, because it looked like it might have been one and a half to two seconds for a lot of practice. So, yeah, there's not really much to reflect on when it comes to Ferrari, very just average

and I really don't see anything happening in the race for them either. I think that they'll struggle to beat Hajar and Russell in the race as well. I sound depressed, that's because I am. Yeah, they are just nowhere, are they?

They're not even remotely in the hunt, the fact that they're behind. It looked like Charlotte Clare might be sort of, this season in kind of the last few races, being the driver that's going into that kind of third place slot with Verstappen and Russell every race of like, which driver is it going to be that finishes third. But this weekend, that being said,

said it is close with Russell and stuff, but they just don't look to have the pace that look like they could challenge. And of course, it's an incredibly difficult track to overtake on. Certainly is, but it also has the most overtakes in history. So which one are we going to get tomorrow? We will have to wait and see. Thank you, everybody, for tuning in to the quality watch along if you did today. And also, we'll be live on Twitch and YouTube tomorrow. Just want to say as well, this is not my new setup. I'm not just kind of sat on a bench with a kind of very much much bodged setup for any reason other than the fact that I didn't have my internet router delivered to me, which is great because I was literally driving out for four hours at different delivery

offices saying, where is my parcel? And they don't know. So that's why I might seem a little bit tired and also the fact I came back from Amsterdam and everything else that's been going on, moving house, even though it doesn't look like it. This is literally my girlfriend's house. Anyway, I just wanted to say that this, you know, wow, Matt, you're talking about your new setup. That's it. some curtains in the background. No, that's not what I'm planning as much as this is a lovely home. So that's my final thoughts, Tommy,

is F delivery services. What's your final thought? And you're really hyping up the new background. It'd be the greatest thing we've ever seen now. It's actually not even that. It's not ready. It's not ready. 2026, we're going to cook.

But it will look better than this, I promise. So thank you, everybody. We will see you tomorrow, live on Twitch and YouTube, as I say. And we'll have the podcast and everything else coming your way as well and we'll see you very soon. Lots of love. Bye!

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