P1 with Matt and Tommy - Reaction to Hungarian GP qualifying

Episode Date: August 2, 2025

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Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast, or should I call it the Charlotte Claire podcast with Matt and Tommy. Oh, I forgot what this feeling felt like, Tommy. I'm here, you're here. Both of our drivers did really well in qualifying, didn't they, Tommy? Yeah, yeah, it's a nice set for it. I know, too fair. You support so many that you can at least say that Fernando Lanzo had a good one

and he was a 10th of poll. It was. But we're here. It's Hungarian Grand Prix qualifying reflection time, and I'm here for it. Who is ready for a two and a half hour podcast? Because I certainly am. We'll talk about Q3 and Q3 only, I think. But how are you feeling, Tommy?

Are you feeling anywhere near as good as I am right now? Well, you know, favourite drivers aside, I just enjoyed an absolutely fantastic qualifying session because we're Formula One funds first, and boy, what a quality that was. And just out of nowhere as well, I think that was the beauty of it. That's why, you know, your reaction was so crazy. We'll post a clip online of it if you missed it on the watch along. But it's those moments when it's so unexpected.

It normally is a qualifying session that it happens. Those are the moments in Formula One that we love. Exactly. It was, for me, just the perfect storm of an incredible qualifying where six drivers were separated by 0.126 of a second and Charles on pole. Like that's just phenomenal. We'll get into more of that shortly. because, you know, this is just the intro.

Let's chill out. We've got sessions to get through first. And before we do, the Delusion Tour tickets are still on sale. The P1 Live Show, Delusion Tour, is coming potentially near where you are. Go and check it out. Of course, we're going, it's a World Tour, Tommy, as everyone has disputed it. But it is technically. We go on a plane and we go to several countries, so I call that a World Tour.

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So it sounds like good quality. And look at those delusion tour t-shirts. So come to the tour and also get a t-shirt if you fancy it. Right. Let's get into Q1, shall we? We're the bottom five. were Sonoda, Gazley, Ockon, Holkenberg and Albon. As I take off my Ferrari flag for a moment,

so I was getting pretty warm. Yeah, then I might put it back on. So yeah, the bottom five there, big, I can't call it a shock, a slight small sprinkling of upset, I'd say, for Sonoda, who looked relatively close to Max this weekend, I'm not saying on par with him, but within a few tenths.

And you think if you're within a few tenths of Max for Stapp and you're probably going to make it through to Q3. Sadly not. So no doubt out in Q1, he was not happy at all as you could imagine. But yeah, just another disappointing one. But this is kind of the Red Bulls troubles doubled, quadrupled, whatever you want to call it, because not only is the second driver struggling,

but Max is struggling in that car and has qualified eighth behind a salber. So this is what, we then see because Sonoda was I think a tenth off Vastappen in Q1 and he was knocked out. Yeah, and a tenth off Vastappen in Q3 puts you, you know, almost one place behind him on the grid, maybe, you know, a couple of places behind. So it's so unlucky for Sonoda that, yeah, the one time in so many other sessions would have said, you know, a tenth off of max, 10th of max last year, your P2 on the grid.

But now you're absolutely not. And so unlucky for for Sonoda because now maybe with the new team principal, who knows that maybe like we're going to see him have a bit more confidence and maybe a little bit closer to Max. But unfortunately, when that Red Bull is just poor, that gap still, you know, still knocks UK out and 16th is still, you know, not good enough. it's not good enough but it's also I am going to forgive him because he was a 10th off max and that's all he's ever

been asked to do and so he's like yes I shall do it now and then gets knocked out in Q1 so he can't really win can he other drivers I think Ghazley he's driving you know particularly well in the last few races but Colopinto outqualifying him was not something I had on my bingo

card for sure I did not expect Gasly to be out qualified by Colopinto just purely but the momentum that's been on the Ghazley side of the garage has been insurmountable for Colopinto. But, but I mean, it has to be hats off for Franco, who it will start 14th tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, Franco, a good, a good qualifying performance from him to outscore Gasly Alpine, you know, nowhere. If you listen to the drive ratings, I said, I kind of made my point very clear about that I think Colapinto is getting a kind of unfair mocking of being like

this absolutely useless driver. And he's done a good job to outqualify. his teammate and put an Alpine into 14th when it's probably just the best they can hope for these days because they are they are struggling big time but again we you know we are seeing and this is this is happening just all the time this year and no more even this session in fact it's actually the bottom six are all different teams never mind the bottom five you know you've got a Williams a Salbert a Hass and Alpine a Red Bull and Mercedes being that bottom six which how many years of Formula One have we seen two by two by two by two teams all the time and it being like, oh, the two Saubers are last again or the two Hasses or the two Williams?

There's no real worst car by a mile on the grid anymore. So that makes Q1 really exciting and can be anyone, including, you know, the driver that my daughter put to win the Grand Prix in dead last. Yes, Alexander Albon, P20 with a kind of. Carlos signs managing to make it through, I think he was eighth in Q1, if I'm not mistaken, but ending up 13th is Carlos. But yeah, for Albon, I will say, and I'll announce it here, even though you may well have understood the assignment when we put it on social media about getting questions for him. We are indeed getting Alex Albon in the summer break on the P1 podcast. And I'd like to say right here right now, I really appreciate Alex qualifying 20th so that there can be no claims of a P1 curse.

You get out of the way early. speaking to him. So therefore he should win in the next race after he speaks to us. So that's what I'm seeing right now. And it's clever from Alex Albon. But I'm so surprised to see him 20th. He was looking, they were looking so good on Friday. And now I know that there's so many different run plans and you can get baited by practice, but they did just look good. And I'm so shocked to see Albon down in 20th. Yes, it's a disappointing one for Albon. Even though the track like a Monaco track. Williams are always known for being good on those quick, you know, straits.

And even though they say they don't do this anymore, they still do seem to rock up to Monza every year in those kind of circuits and the fastest in the sectors and things. But, yes, not working for Williams here. But again, you know, many drivers in that bottom five are quite a big distance between their teammates, particularly Nico Holkenberg. Indeed, Holcombow, P-19,

back-to-back flops from me, which I don't think I've done to a driver for a very long time, and Nico was like, all right, mate, I'll get you another point, no problem, back row of the grid. So that's going to be a lot of work for Nico to do tomorrow.

Let's get into Q2 then, where the five out in this session were Bermann, Hamilton, signs, Collipinto and Antonelli. Question from Migglesvon. What's going on with Lewis? I don't want to say a seven times champion

is washed, but what's happening is, almost unbelievable. Now, before we dive into anything Lewis Hamilton discussion related, I just want to mention what he said after qualifying. It's me every time. I'm just useless. The team has no problem.

The second car is on pole, so they probably just need to change driver. Oh, my lord. God, imagine if we said that in driver ratings. I know. There'd be like no way, but Hamilton himself, he can be, of course, very, very critical of his own,

He has a massively high bar that he sets himself, of course. Now, he wouldn't have the records he has without having that within him, but it is really hard to listen to that because I think a lot of people want to see Hamilton do well. A lot of people want to see Hamilton win a championship at Ferrari win a race at Ferrari, aside from the sprint race, of course. But back to the question about what's going on, I'm not surprised in some ways to see him off Sharle. Like, I thought coming into this season that Hamilton would struggle again.

against Charles. He's coming into, Lewis is coming into a new team that he is not familiar with. The entire inner workings of a team, you can't just sit in a car and be like, yeah, cool, I'm ready to go. It's different power unit. It's different everything in the last year of the regulations. So I'm not surprised. You know, he doesn't have age on his side either. He doesn't have science on his side. So to have these moments where even look at Mercedes in the last few years there, he was struggling in comparison to Russell. Of course, he did have. great performances, but he also had blips. He'll come back tomorrow, and I'm sure he'll have a reasonably decent race.

But I think when we, I wouldn't want to coin the term washed for such a legendary drive like Hamilton anyway, but I think we have to wait until next year where it's a clean slate, it's a new car, new regulations, and it's a level playing field, I would then say, between Charlotte, Claire and Lewis Hamilton. That's when we can judge on a fair playing field, just how far, if you. he is off of Charlotte Claire. Yeah, I mean, he definitely, you know, deserves

the criticism. He's obviously extremely maybe not as harsh as he has given it himself, of course, but yeah, he himself said, his teammate and the other Ferrari is on pole and

Hamilton is one of these drivers who have seen throughout his career is the great adapter, you know, one of his I think the most impressive thing about Lewis Hamilton's career full stop is the fact that he has won in so many different regulations year on year. You know, people will say about him being good in certain eras, but, you know, he started his career when we had the V8s and then he was winning and then moved to a different type of car and won again. And then they changed the hybrids and he won again and things like that. So he has been struggling definitely in this ground effect era, no doubt.

doubt. It's been one of the most difficult, probably the most difficult kind of era of his entire career. But I think, I think you're right. Next year is going to be the key. When we go into a clean slate, new regulations, he's had a year to kind of hopefully get used to the team, because there's still some question marks there obviously with Team Radio. And it's a big change as well. He's not moving to an old team that he's worked with before or even, you know, British bias, but a British team. There's a language barrier there with Ferrari as well. It's got to be taken into account. We talk about the communication in Formula One with his engineers and things.

So next year will be the big key, but it's disappointed. It's a tough watch to see Lewis Hamilton because you want to see the top drivers at the front. That's what Formula One's all about. You do, you do. And yes, his performance wasn't good enough, but I think at the same time, we're not having this conversation if Charler LeClaire rocks up sixth for tomorrow, a tenth and a half slower than what he does in qualifying today. If Charles was lining up sixth, Hamilton 12th, we're talking a little bit about the Hamilton Q2X. That's a bit of a surprise. But the fact is, it's the performance that Charlotte Claire put down, the sensational lap to be everybody else in the tricky conditions where the wind direction changed. That is the reason why we're going to. We're talking about the Hamilton issues, especially from today. So it's a case of, yes, Hamilton didn't do great, but also Charles did phenomenally well, and both can coexist, I think. Next question, and moving away from Ferrari, P.1Petri member, Rosie Rangetsu,

another disappointing day for Kimmy Antonelli. How can Mercedes help him regain his confidence? It's clearly not a weekend where you can just... change everything, right? It seems like he's snowballing with this, this lack of confidence that for some reason has happened, but it can happen. It can happen to any driver, right? It's not, this isn't the first nor the last time we're going to see a driver lose confidence after a run of bad races. But there were points. You go, okay, Kimmy Fass's first sector and things like that, but then there's small errors and dipping wheels into the gravel and, and things like that.

But he needs the summer break. I think he really does. As a young, he's a little, he's a little a young kid in Formula One. He's learning as the days go by. And for me, I'm not pressing panic buttons like some people might be just purely because he has shown potential. If it'd just been pretty mid this entire year and now's doing this, I'd be like, well, that Mercedes seat could actually be not particularly safe. But he has shown phenomenal performances. There's clearly just something that isn't clicking with the car. Of course, you go from track to track. It's completely different setups on the car. You go from Spa, which of course, very high speed. This track, sorry, is a lot more high down force and the cars, you know, they adapt, they change the living beasts.

And clearly the adaptability side of Kimmy Antonelli's driving isn't there yet. Like, he'll perform when the car works for him and that's about it. Whereas George Russell, I think, is a phenomenal talent, as we know, but he will always somehow be able to muster a lap out of a car even when he is wrestling it like a donkey. True. And yeah, the thing with Antonelli is he is in this kind of rut at the moment. They've reverted back the Mercedes backwards because even George himself about Kimmy's performance said, well, we've not been very good. Mercedes in general have taken a step back and that's probably hurt Kimmy even more. But, you know, it's a big ask for Kimmy to come in and it's still very unusual. the way it's gone that his start to the season was what I thought would be happening now, because the start of the season, he was a consistent point finisher. He was finishing one or two places behind George Russell.

Canada was, you know, we talk about the pole position in Miami, but Canada was an unbelievable performance as a rookie to be able to be right on the back of George Russell. Sprint pole, Tommy, I'm just going to come in there. Sorry, sprint pole, of course. A record books. But yeah, so, and he has got it in him. That's why it's so disappointing. But, you know, we're seeing Hamilton and Antonelli having very wholesome interactions.

They also love going out of the same qualifying session together. They're just such busy mates that they're like, well, if you go out, I'll go out. Three in a row, yeah, crazy. Of course, Antonelli had his lap time deleted as well, which meant he's gone even further back down, down the field than he would have. Because Olly Beerman has to be 11th. Oh, my God. Ollie Beerman, P11 again. If you listen to the predictions, if you watch the predictions,

you will see that I locked in that Ollie Beerman would finish 11th again. He's had four in a row. He can become the record holder for 5 P11s, any position, bar P1. I think that deserves points in itself, doesn't it really?

In commentary, they were talking about whether Olly Bearman would prefer to finish 11th to get a record that doesn't mean anything. They got to be joking. I was like, please tell me you're joking. pleased out. They must have been joking. Yeah, it must be tugged cheek.

But yeah, I mean, Bermann still did a good job. You know, 11th, we joke about it just outside the points at the moment, but he's outqualified is very... Yeah. I'm 18th. Bermann's 11th. What have I missed? I'm going to 7 positions.

I read the word 11th, you know, I'm like with numbers. Yeah, you are absolutely horrendous. But, yeah, Benman's done a good job. And I said this in the watchalong. while Behrman you're looking at probably even if he had snuck in he's probably finishing 9th or 10th anyway

so he's got that opportunity to make that happen in the race with a nice undercut or maybe a move into turn 1 what I find the most fascinating about Q2 is you see visibly the difference that the drivers then had in Q3

with the change of wind because Oliver Berman did a 156 got knocked out and yet that lap time would have put him, I think, just ahead of Max Verstappen. So, or maybe even just had a Bortoletto, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 7th. So that just shows the lack of grip that they then had in that final quality session.

It was absolutely bizarre. Q3, the top 10. Charles LeCleur, Piaastri, Norris, Russell, Alonzo, Stroll, Bortoletto, Vastappen, Larson, and Hadjar. Pee-1-Petrae comes in with, did McLaren bottle it or did LeCleur smash it? The Claire smashed it. No, I mean, okay, look, fine. Let me take off my Charlotte Claire tinted glasses.

It was very close indeed. This was a case of, and we've said it a few times already, adapting to the conditions, because the cars weren't dialed in like they were from Free Practice 1, Free Practice 2, all the way through to Q1, Q2, you know, you even saw the onboards of the McLaren's. You'd never see a snap of oversteer in the McLaren's, but then Oscar, I think, had that round the second to,

last corner, that left-hander, and there's a slight little correction, which I think cost in pole 100%. So that change of wind direction just completely changes the balance of the car. So it was just an absolute free-for-all. I would love to say that this was just, barring Max Verstappen in the dustbin, this was kind of like a level playing field, who gets pole, you're all in equal go-cuts. And because like the fact is, six of the, the top six were separated by 0.126 of a second. Lance Stroll was just over 10th away.

getting pole. Yeah, crazy. So it did level the playing field a lot. I think it's more like the equivalent of going into almost like FP1 again and everything you've learned through the whole weekend has just changed and it's one lap quality. The conditions are completely different. You know, the only way it could have been more different as if it had rained.

Because it was. It was just completely different. Wind direction. Everything that they'd learned was completely out the window. And yeah, absolutely brilliant for a. from Charlerclair. I have to say this this year I know Ferrari have been off the pace and disappointing but I did think you know that we we kind of need to see more of these kind of moments from Charleclair where he reminds everyone look what I can do when you give me the car

and I am one of the best drivers in Formula One and this was absolutely that and it's good to see it again because it was just a reminder to everyone of you know it's a a season where Piestri and Norris are now going to overtake him on and Grand Prix wins and stuff because of that McLaren. He's kind of showing, well, please give me the car next year, because look what I can do. And it was an absolutely brilliant performance from Charlotte Clare. It certainly was. He gave up quite a bit of time in that last sector. I think there was a few corrections for Charles because we thought it was done and duster, I think through the middle when the McLaren's were a couple of tents down

and then they almost clawed all of it back in the last sector. I nearly celebrated a little bit too early. But thankfully, particularly because George Russell, we didn't see a single second of his lap. Comes over the line, half a tenth behind

and just plops up on the leaderboard. Can they stop doing that? We said it before. Yeah, true. I will give TV direction a bit of, I don't want to slander them too much. it was at least they did they did what they

could with the in terms of like you focus on the people you think are going to get Paul Piastrian Norris which they did to be fair mini box as soon as they realized Charlerc was on this sensational lap they did put him in the mini box so I'll give him credit for that I don't think I mean he went purple no surprise

I mean it's not that difficult to do that surely you see purple you go but this is what I think they do deserve credit for that they they were also I mean what I would say is they were 0.053 seconds of missing the entire poll lap with George Russell had he obviously gone quicker. That's what I'm saying. I mean, we literally kicked off about not seeing Alex Albon do something very similar in SPAR.

But for this one, we're saying they did all right because they showed Charler-going well. I mean, I think they did an all-right job. George was still lapping and we're watching slow cars. No, well, we're watching a slow car. We're watching Max Lappen, so we were watching a slow car. Yeah, but then we didn't see George crossed the line at all. We didn't see one single part. We were watching Max.

They didn't share the many of the cars. They chose the wrong car, basically. Okay, all right. Not as bad as the Albonne situation, but yes, they did nearly miss the entire poll app of George Russell. Question from P1, Patreon member, Justin F194. Could this be a Ferrari resurgence, just like last year? Don't use my heart.

Don't use my heart. Use my brain. I would love to say, to be honest with you, I don't think it's going to be a resurgence where we start winning race. is left, right and center. I will say that the upgrades have worked. They have got faster. They've got closer-ish to McLaren.

I don't think on a... They're not fighting Williams anymore. Thank you. They're not fighting Lance Stroll in the championship. They're the second fastest team, in my opinion, and they are going that way, hopefully for the rest of the season. You can't imagine there's going to be a huge amount of upgrades

for the rest of the teams to the end of 2025 because we've got new regs. coming. So look, we could see a lot more podiums, I think, from the Ferrari boys, hopefully both of them, and maybe a win or two, maybe a win tomorrow. Okay, I'm back, we're so back. Yeah, Ferrari Resurgence, back on, here we go. Yeah, it's over in terms of the championship, of course. Not mathematically, Tommy. We're back. Just, Sherlock says winning it all. I mean, look, they are, they are a resurgence in the fact that, They have improved the car.

They are now looking like, you know, the start of the season, it was the two McLaren's, and then who's going to be third, the Stappan or Russell, whereas now it looks like Ferrari are, you know, you're more likely going to think that Ferrari can do something and particularly Charlerclair.

So they are looking better from there. I'd be amazed if we saw them kind of being able to challenge for wins on the regular. But of course, this is a great opportunity. Certainly is. Next question. P-1 Patreon member, Anastasia W. What needs to happen for Charles to win tomorrow?

Two things. One, Charlotte Clare leads out of term one. Two, George Russell takes third position. That's all we need. We need those McLaren's to be split up. Then we are cooking. If McLaren are second and third and can just play a one of them pits earlier,

one of them pits later, Charles screwed because one of them will get through once they find track position. So that is what I need in my reality. I think that it's unlikely should they stay in the same quality positions they are into those first few laps that Charles can and Ferrari can cover off both McLaren's that will undoubtedly be faster in clean air. All they'll need to find is clean air, the McLaren's, and they can stretch their legs and do something a little bit different.

So that's what I need. George Russell, please deliver for me, sir. And yes, but it is possible. Charles can win tomorrow. Yeah, he absolutely can win tomorrow. Definitely. He just needs to basically get into term one first, avoid the undercut and it win the race,

because we've seen, it sounds a lot easier when you say it like that. It's going to be difficult. But we have seen, there'll be a lot of people going, oh, McLaren are so clear and in normal conditions, they're clear. But we had the same conversation when Max was on pole in Suzuki

or George Russell was on pole in Montreal going, well, the McLarence are so much quicker. But also you get into turn 1 first in 2025, you've got a very, very, very, very, very good chance of winning the race because it's so hard to overtake. This track is even more difficult to overtake than the normal circuits that we get at. So they've got a great chance.

And Ferrari, you know, we are looking at, at a year before today where we kind of you would have said that maybe they go a whole year without a victory i think this is their their opportunity to to take that that win for sure because it's right it's right there for them if shal can um if shal can get into into turn one first they and just mind the undercut basically what a what a horrible statistic for you to bring up just randomly out of the blue about the last time ferrari won uh next question and away from ferrari now people on Patreon member Captain Obs 3420. Could Alonzo have gotten a top three if Aston Martin sent him out with everyone else instead of earlier in Q3?

I don't think so. I am and I am basing this on nothing but vibes and potential understanding of the Q3 session that Aston Martin, if anything, caught the better conditions of going out a little bit earlier. Now the wind direction did change, but for me, I'm sorry, Aston Martin, if they're, I don't think that they would, would have been any closer. I genuinely think that that is as close as they could have got. Stroll did a great lap. Alonzo, of course, as well. I'm, yeah, again, I'm basing this on vibes and based on opinion, but I don't think they would have got any better than that. Yeah, of course, the track conditions were in a normal qualifying session. You want to go out of the end, because that's the

track evolution and things, but we saw there that I think both McLaren's were quite a way down by the end of it on what they did before so the conditions were getting worse so if anything Aston Martin made the right call to go out then before everything changed. Could have been the greatest blinder of a call ever and they would have secured

a one two and would have been sat there like. Can you imagine I still cannot get in my brain that Alonzo is a tenth one tenth and he's fifth yeah yeah because he'd be one where we're saying he could win tomorrow because he just have to get to time one first, but a tenth off pole and he's fifth, which is slightly gutting it in all of this,

because you want to see, I want to see him on the podium again. At the very least, which is going to be difficult, of course. But yeah, I think Ashton Martin played it well and, of course, continued that form that we weren't sure whether we were just having another moment where we're just baited by pace. but, no, Aston Martin did absolutely deliver and I've looked good here. Bated by pace.

By their pace in practice pace, yeah. I'd like, there's definitely a word missing there. I've been baited by the pace. By the pace in practice. Yeah, there you go. Perfect. Right. Next question.

If you on pitch, remember Mikey B. With overtaking difficult and therefore pit stops crucial for the race, is this the most important turn one of the season for the McLaren drivers as to who gets preference? I think Monaco is definitely the most important term one ever and will never be overhauled, overthrown. But it is, of course, it's very important.

We don't really have changeable conditions as far as I'm aware. They have been speaking about it a lot, thunderstorms and things like that. But I don't know. I feel like it's a stretch. The weather forecast doesn't look anywhere near as bad as spa, but let's see what tomorrow brings. But in a dry race, less important.

You know, the changeover of the tyres is what we saw cost Lando a lot of time because that move to dry tires can gain you a lot. Whereas an overcut is sometimes what the drivers like to do anyway. So it's going to be interesting whether, you know, if Lando is behind or Oscar's behind, whoever it is, you know, going for that undercut, which would in your normal head be the way to go for the lead driver, but sometimes in a track where it's difficult to overtake, you don't want to pit until the very last minute and then maybe even get and that extra lap after someone's got into the pits to try and then stretch your legs with it with a

fast car. So it's going to be fascinating to see what McLaren do. It is. And could, dare I say, could we see a repeat of last year where, you know, which was a two stop, by the way, which was a two stop, yeah. But if if the driver in third position is under, under threat or wants to try something to try and get the lead, I think we're going to see a very fascinating race, even though overtaking will be very, very, very difficult. That's what I like to hear when Charles on pole. But it will be interesting. We said this about Hungary that when you get a car that's not likely to win,

and in this case, it's not like it's Ocon in the Alpine like we had before, but you're still going to have the two cars that are absolute favorites to win the Grand Prix at the start of the weekend in second and third. going to be fighting for everything they can and they're going to want to get the strategic calls to kind of leapfrog everyone but then they're also going to have to prioritize the driver in front and then they don't want to upset people because they're in a championship fight. I think we're going to get some more juicy radio messages. I think it could get a bit tasty on the radio tomorrow.

I'm here for it. Give us the drama. We need a little bit of that. And final question comes in from people on Patreon, Daniel Breddon is Bortoletto the most underrated driver on the grid. He was 100% the most underrated driver coming into this season, I think. And I would still say so, yeah. He's popping up in Q3 rather often for a car that, yes, we have seen it improve, but you've got Holcomberg, a very experienced driver, a podium sitter is Nika Holkenberg. and he's had two very poor qualifying sessions.

And Bortoletto, he's doing everything right to secure himself a very long-term and prosperous future in Formula One because he's got the raw speed, similar to how we've seen with Hadjar and Lawson at times as well now. That's what you need to show as a young driver. If you're just reasonably slow and consistent, you're going to lose your seat very quickly. but Bortoletto, yeah, we just need that breakthrough lovely little P5 or something. I don't know if that's going to happen this time, but P7 on the grid

ahead of Max Verstappen, he would have definitely taken that coming into this season. He would have. Yeah, Bortoletto's season is incredibly underrated and I'd said this before his kind of recent good performances, but he's been there or thereabouts with Holkenberg. He's now beating Holkenberg in qualifying.

that's three Q3s in a row, if you count SQ3, where he's got that salber into the final part of qualifying. And yet he's just, unfortunately for him, the kind of race results of the championship table don't tell the whole story, because he has been very good and on par with Holkenberg. Holkenberg's had those races, and this isn't taking anything away from Holkenberg.

his experience and brilliant showed in those kind of races where he could get a sensational result not even just Silverstone I think it was Spain where he got the P5 as well and things like that so that's why he's got the massive points on the board and I think as we got kind of the first few races I think you'd have looked at Bortletto and gone

he's got no points in the championship Holkenberg's got loads and it didn't tell the whole picture now we're kind of seeing now that what he can do and we shouldn't forget that he won f3 as a rookie one f2 as a rookie he was a mcclap he had to get basically taken away from mcclaren and kind of break that kind of contract there for him to get his chance in in formula one because of course mcclaren have got there two drivers locked in forever um but he's a very well maybe unless they collide at term one tomorrow um and yeah uh bortolete a having a great season and I really hope we see some big results from him now where he grabs big points because the championship

table doesn't tell the story this season. And that's the thing is like, yes you can deliver it in qualifying but you also need to score some big points in the races now as well. It's all well and good. Putting yourself in those positions it's the strategy, it's keeping the tyres in play and this is all experience that he'll be learning

every race weekend. Okay, wow, we are set up so beautifully for the Hungarian Grand Prix tomorrow. We'll be live on Twitch and YouTube. Matt P1 Tommy. Can't wait for that. Remember to get your P1 live show delusion tour tickets if you haven't already. Matt P1 Tommy.com if you want to get yourself a delusion tour t-shirt as well. And that is it. Tommy, what are your final thoughts? It's a really good kind of set up for the race tomorrow. I'm very much looking forward to the watch along because you know, you've got a big, big opportunity to see your boy getting a race win,

but it's going to be a nervy one, I think, for sure. So, yeah, I'm really looking forward to time. You're not going to want to miss that. Let's hope it doesn't go badly. Fingers crossed. Okay. Thank you, everybody. We'll see you soon.

Lots of love. Take care. Bye. Bye. My chore is to pray to your Shaolin Claire Shrine that he does it tomorrow and gets the dub. Also, I can't believe. If you haven't got a charler shrine, build one.

That's my chore to you. Yes, Tommy. I also just realized final thoughts. Can't believe Max Lappan and a Red Bull is eighth behind. a salber and it's like barely even a story anymore yeah i mean is mac's really that good i think p1 is a stack production and part of the a cast creator network