P1 with Matt and Tommy - Singapore GP Driver Ratings

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

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Hello everybody and welcome back to the B1 podcast with Matt and Tommy. It's your favourite time of any post-race week. It's driver ratings. I cannot wait for this one. And more so than usual, actually, because may I tee up that, you know, Tommy, Tommy likes getting a little bit sassy in their driver ratings. He speaks his truth no matter what people say at him. But Tommy, what are you bringing to this episode that you haven't done before?

I'm bringing to the episode that I've had one hour sleep, so that's fun. Yeah, unfortunately, I had a trip to the hospital yesterday, all good, thankfully. But yes, I went to bed at 6 a.m. and got up at 7. So, be lenient. I can't wait to grade some drivers. It's going to be good for sure. Now, another sort of difficulty, I suppose, on top of the fact you haven't had any sleep, Tommy, is that we saw none of the race. You know, when you actually think of Formula One TV direction, which, you know, I think quite fairly has got criticism out of this one, it's, you have to really go into the depths of the internet to find certain overtakes and things like that.

Yeah, it's going to be an interesting one to grade Carlos Sites when I saw more of his girlfriend than his overtakes. But we'll see. We'll get into it. Right. Let's start where we always begin with Gabrielle Bortoletto. Started the race in 14th, finished 17th. I am going to give Gabriel Bortoletto a five out of ten. Now, I believe he was a little bit unlucky with the fact that he picked up damage at the start. I think that kind of forced him into a pretty terrible strategy as well by pitting very early, lap 14.

He came in for a front wing change and then had to basically eke out the rest of the race from there. So I'm not going to really downgrade him for that. He finished 17th. It wasn't the worst place to start. Then I guess qualified wasn't great. It's a five. It's not great, but it's not horrendous. Yep.

I've gone for a five as well for Bortolato. Disappointing race, really. Sal, but yeah, really not been with it since the summer break, have they? Not, you know, they had that amazing and particularly Bortoletto, that great run of form. But not a particularly great race from him, but maybe not. not as bad as some believe. No, no. When you're forced into an early pit stop around Singapore,

when everybody who did well stayed out till like lap 300 on the media. Yeah, exactly. It tells you everything you need to know. The fans gave Gabrielle a four. Nika Holcombberg started the race in 11th, finished 20th. I've gone for a three out of 10 for Nika Holkenberg. Maybe, you know, this is a sign to keep qualifying badly, because as soon as he qualified well, he had a really poor race.

Yeah, he finally got his qualifying sorted and then, yeah, didn't go to plan. Of course, probably the only driver to have a proper major moment as well, although I will thank him because it put to any doubt Matt's prediction of the yellow flag. So, you know, as most I want to give him a 10, I'm not. So three for Niko Holcombberg, disappointing one. It was disappointing my prediction for him. Was that top 10? Was it a Patreon?

I think it was. To get a point for Holkenberg, which looked promising after qualifying, P-11. But yeah, a massively notable error from him careering down the runoff, almost collected a car as he spun round. And the front wing damage, I think,

again, he was a little bit unlucky with that one. But the error was basically the nail in the coffin for any potential points. on the table, although again, I think Salba didn't help him with the strategy of pitting him quite early. And then he basically, well, yeah, he just got stuck behind everybody that had stayed out. And it just felt like the wrong strategy call. But that being said, it is still a three. The fans gave him a three as well.

Alex Albon started the race from the pit lane after being disqualified and qualifying. And finished in 14th. I have gone for a six out of ten for Alex Albon. It was okay, made some progress. Still quite a way off the points. Did a similar strategy to signs. I think William's got it absolutely right to stay out there. Definitely helped by some other cars that were going insanely slowly to keep the pack altogether.

But yeah, for Albonne, he'll look at signs and go, yeah, actually, maybe there were some points on the table. But it's not a horrendous grade from finishing 14th because he started from the pit lane. Indeed. I've gone for a six as well for Alex Alburn. A pit lane start to P-14, nothing crazy, but certainly not a terrible race. But of course, similar strategy, very almost identical to his teammate and his teammate obviously made better use of it. So that's why it's a six. The fans gave him a six as well. Carlos Seines started the race in 18th, finished 10th.

I have gone for an eight out of ten for Carlos Sites. You know, disqualified, qualifying, started P18 of course, and got those points, made all those brilliant overtakes that I absolutely loved seeing on Twitter on Tuesday instead of the main feed during the Grand Prix when nothing was happening. But Carlos, yeah, amazing to get points. I can't give him a nine and this kind of will go based on, kind of other grades that we'll see later on, which I normally base my kind of grades on,

but still a fantastic performance from Science and what a turnaround. And I'm hoping, based on Baku and this race, this is like the turning point now where Science is comfortable in that car and he's really starting to show the driver that we all know he is. Okay, dokey. I am going to give Carlos Sons a nine because I think it was close between an eight and a nine but I am going to give him his plaudits

I believe that I'm sorry now I'm meant to go oh my God one great difference how dare you that is a massively polarising opinion isn't it an eight versus a nine I reckon if we'd seen all of them live maybe we would have felt slightly better and slightly more strongly towards

Carlos's grade but I still think it's a nine out of ten to make that much progress around Singapore again I think the strategy did you know, they nailed it at Williams, but I think Sines' pace was also really, really good, and it's not easy to still make overtakes. So yeah, to score a point from that position, I think definitely deserves a high grade. So it's a well done to Carlos. The fans gave him an 8 out of 10.

Isaac Hadjar started the race in 8th, finished 11th. I'm going to give Hadjar a 7 out of 10. Now you might go, wow, 7 out of 10 for an 11th, Matt. You haven't scored points. Guy was, and I'm going to use a very, old reference here, like Fred Flintstone. He was literally using his feet to go around the Singapore Grand Prix circuit. You could visibly see how slow he was in a straight line. How he has still finished 11th is an absolute miracle, to be honest with you. So I'm going to give him

a 7 because he definitely does deserve the plaud it's there for, and somehow not finishing last. So well done, Isaac. I've gone for an eighth out of 10 for Isaac Hadjar. I think, as you've said, he was driving around a lot of the time with half an engine, it felt like, you know, Daniel Ricardo at Monaco all those years back, but of course you can overtake at Singapore, even if it's very difficult.

I think it's very fitting. I know this didn't happen through the whole race, but you saw on one of the only moments we saw an overtake live, where we actually saw Fernando Alonzo go past him and it really did look like he was driving, you know, an F2 car. So...

Hero of the race as well, let's not forget. Fernando Alonso, exactly. So I think had your, I know as if but some maybes, but had he, you know, had a working car, I think he's comfortably, you know, up there with challenging Alonzo for best of the rest. So I think it's a, you know, it seems incredibly high to give it eight for an 11 out of 10, but his car wasn't working. And I think for him to have even almost be in the points is a really impressive thing. So yeah, got to applaud him. The fans, they don't care. Six out of ten for Isaac Adjar.

Liam Lawson started the race in 12th, finished 15th. I have gone for a four out of ten for Liam Lawson. I think a disappointing race weekend. Two crashes, of course. I know it's practice, but Dents is confidence going into the weekend, had to repair his car. And you look what Isaac Adjadjar could achieve. in that racing balls and obviously Liam Lawson's car was working during the Grand Prix and yeah,

he, Liam has shown that he can be on Hajjar's level now. He's, how do you know, he had a brilliant, brilliant performance last time out in Baku, but this was a really messy weekend at a time when, you know, the pressure is on about whether he keeps his seat. So yeah, a disappointing weekend for Lawson. This one very difficult to grade because of the two crashes in free practice, which you have to downgrade because it is costing the team. I've gone for a five out of ten for Lawson. Without the crashes, it would have been a slightly higher grade potentially.

He was doing all right in that race. He was ahead of Signs. He was going the long strategy on the mediums. And then there was like a one or two lap window between Lawson pitting and Signs pitting. and Signs was able to come out in pretty cleanish air to go and attack, whereas Lawson got very much stuck in the train of stroll, Albon. So I think a little bit of luck, and Lawson was maybe, and with a shout of scoring an outside, you know,

a point in P10. So I've gone for a five because that didn't happen, and obviously those crashes as well didn't help. But it could well have been a little bit different for Lawson. I will change you to a five then. This is what drive rating is all about. You've convinced me with that. that little bit of knowledge about the pit window.

So, yeah, fair enough. I will go. Obviously, I've given Hadjar quite a high grade as well in an eight. So, yeah, I'll change it to a five. Okay. I love this. It's like a little auction or something going on here. The fans also gave Liam Lawson a five out of ten.

That's one, sorry, we're getting one hour of sleep, Tommy, just for a quick second. How you can give Hadjar one grade higher than Lawson, though, that is pretty deft. Oh, you haven't got the fans? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah. That one hour's sleep. Oh, Tommy is going to come for you. Ollie Bearman started the race in ninth, finished ninth. Oliver Bearman receives.

Gosh, it's a difficult one. Is it nine? Is it nine? Is it nine? Is it a nine? Is it a nine? Is it a ten? Oh, gosh.

It's a nine out of ten for Ollie Bearman. Close to a ten, as you can tell by my. deliberation and weird squeaky noises that I made. A brilliant weekend from Ollie. Don't think I can quite give him the perfect 10 score, but still brilliant in qualifying, made it into Q3, completely, it has to be said, I hate to say it,

because I love Esty Bestie, but trounced Ocon in qualifying and then just delivered a really solid race from there, of course, had that contact into term one as well where his race could have absolutely been curtains, but he was fine. and settled into his own race, finished on his own, and a couple of points for Hass. So nine out of ten.

Yeah, I've gone for a nine out of ten for Olly Behrman as well. Absolutely brilliant drive. I will say that I think it was actually his best drive of the year. Just brilliant all weekend. But I can't give him a 10 when we've seen, you know, Carla Seitz, Niko Holcomberg, had your gap, get podiums this year, not saying that Oli Beerman needs to be a podium, but it is a ninth place, but it's still a very, very good grade and it's a very good nine because, you know, he is, like you say, trounced his very experienced teammate

and, yeah, really starting to see some great stuff from, from Olly Behrman. I think he was really, really impressive this weekend. Hell yeah, the fans gave Olli a nine out of ten. Esteban Ocon started the race in 17th, finished 18th. I've gone for a four out of ten for Estaban O'Ockon. disappointing one you know when you see what what ollie bearman was able to do in that car you do wonder how much

you know without without sounding like lewis hamilton in 2020 how much like o'con is like experimenting with all these crazy strategies and setups and things but yeah he just can't seem to get whether that's the case or he just can't get qualifying right at the moment but yeah disappointing race for Ocon of course the more experienced driver and yeah just just didn't work out for him we talk about crazy strategies that was probably the least crazy strategy of all in this

Grand Prix pissing on lap 30 for mediums and being like cool I'm done that had an Ocon crazy strategy written all over it from P17 and they didn't do it didn't do it yeah Estaband needs to pick up is qualifying for sure I have gone for a four out of ten for Esteban Ocon. His teammates showed what was possible in the car this weekend. And I'd like to see Esteban mount some kind of charge again because he has had a few, a couple, great results this year. It's come more from the race than it has qualifying.

But it would make it a lot easier if he could start a little bit higher as we saw with Olli this weekend. The fans gave him a three. Franco Colapinto started the race in 16th, finished 16th. I am going for a six out of 10 for Franco Colapinto. He, of course, beat his teammate once again, which is going very much under the radar at the moment. He was running in a pretty good sort of 12th, 13th position towards the end of the race,

but then fell away with pretty large degradation for that wheelie bin that he's driving. So I'm going to give him his credit there that again he beats Pierre Gazley that I know Pierre obviously started from the pitling and had qualifying issues but once again Franco I think does deserve these kind of comments so I've gone for a six. I have gone for a seven out of ten for Franco Colopinto. I know some people would be like oh my God how can you give a seven for finishing 16th But they've already written that at least six times.

And I will explain my working, not that people will listen, they've already made the comments. But remember, we're biased and they're not. Exactly. So yeah, Alpine, worst car on the grid now. You know, they're woeful. They're miles behind in the Constructors' Championship. Even Pierre Gasly, who we all know is a great driver,

struggling massively. And Franco has outqualified him again. four from five now I know I know he had the issue I know he had the issue but he was ahead of him before before so and yeah it makes a great start up into 13th and yeah

I was convinced that when he pitted for mediums very early I was like well why ever earth are they gone for a two stop he's going to struggle with tyredeg there that's a crazy strategy and he's going to just have you know finish easily dead last but instead you know 16 there's nothing to write home about

but he's beaten two Sal Buzer Haas and his teammate. And, you know, how I do my grades is I think about that final table where it tells you everyone, you know, and what their points score is and stuff. And we've discussed this and feel free to write in the comments if you would prefer to maybe next year try something like that where we grade drivers from one to 20 and we can give a bit more of a kind of grading system like that. But if I look at other drivers, I'm going into a massive tangent here, but I'm explaining my seven. If I look at other drivers like Alex Albin, right, he's finished 14th in a Williams, which is a decent car.

And he's finished behind his teammate. And Colopinto has finished 16th in the worst car on the grade and finish ahead of his teammate. And I can't give him the same grade. So it's a seven. One hour Tommy is really diving into the law of this F1 driver ratings. Okay, perfect. The fans don't care, mate. They literally don't care.

Of course they don't. Honestly, that could have been an email, mate, honestly, to be honest with you. Because the fans gave him a five. Pierre Gasley started the race from the pit lane after having quali issues and finished 19th. I've gone for a five out of ten for Pierre Gasly. Yeah, just it's hard to grade someone based on how it's, is it like woeful or is it just the fact that their car is the worst? And I think it's the latter that their car is terrible, of course. unlucky in qualifying

to not be able to finish his lap and have that issue but Alpin are just in struggle town anyway so yeah it's not great

but I've gone for a five for Gassley either way I've gone for a five as well starting from the pit lane obviously puts you on the back foot and he finished I know a few positions behind Colopinto 16th versus 19th

but he was right behind Ocon and Bortoletto at the end of the and four seconds off Colapinto around a track that we know is very difficult to overtake in the worst car on the grid. So yeah, that's a five from me. The fans gave him a three. They reckon that Pierre Gasly should make that steering wheel steer in qualifying. And they don't like the fact that Pierre Gassi didn't fix it on the fly. Lance Stroll started the race in 15th, finished 13th.

Lance Stroll is going to receive a whopping. five out of 10. Thank you, Lance, very much. Just down the middle. One of the shortest interviews I've ever heard from him after qualifying. And he was basically just clinging on to hope for a safety car in the middle of the race. And that never happened. So 13th, when your teammate has very comfortably finished eighth,

maybe even very clear. I did get, sorry, Hamilton to finish seventh in the end, didn't he? but eighth on the road it's yeah it's just another kind of meh on to the next one for Lance I've gone for a six out of ten for Lance roll I think it was yeah not not the greatest weekend but I think

Aston Martin really failed to deliver the car that I expected them to have around here they didn't look It was a pretty good car no It wasn't great no I wouldn't say it was great Alonzo literally finished best of the rest by a country mile Yeah but he qualified 10th is what I mean it's still a six I'm not giving him a 10 I know it wasn't the grade I was questioning

it was no no about astermart and not delivering a car which I think I don't think the I don't don't think they were like comfortably best of the rest like I thought they were going to be I didn't know very much in the pack yeah I see I see yeah course it is we'll get on to him later but yeah Lance 13th probably you know like not quite in the points um it's not absolutely woeful but it's also not not better than a six, so I've gone for a six. 35 seconds off his team, mate, crazy. Right, the fans gave him a five.

Fernando Alonzo, started the race in 10th, finish 7th. We'll just let Tommy go now. Right, just everybody sit back, relax and enjoy the fanboy. 10, done. Well, that's not going to look great on the edit, is it? That's not going to look great, is it? Come on. Okay. Look, Fernando Alonzo, a mega, mega drive.

I don't, yeah, I expected Ashton Martin to be 10. Because the answer's going to be fuming with you. It's a 10, of course there we go. That's it. That's the, give us some energy, Tommy. It's like someone's a 11. It's a 12.

It's a 15 out of time. Yeah. Fernando, brilliant drive. I very much expected him to challenge or be best of the rest because the Aston Martin was best of the rest. I don't think they were. He did very well when I don't think the Aston had particularly great pace and qualifying to get into the top 10 in qualifying.

So to then basically make his way to, you know, the front of that best of the rest, then have that horrendously slow pit stop, which should have just completely ruined any chances of him being able to get points really. And, you know, Fernando Lanzo being Fernando Lonso just does Fernando things and just drives past everyone drops absolute hilarious team radio messages and yeah brilliant brilliant drive and I said this to you and maybe this will get into Hamilton later but in a in a championship fight that's been far too friendly I'm glad to see Hamilton Alonso still beefing after 18 years that's that's over seventh place over seventh place yeah that's the sport I love yeah that's the

why I love that. Yeah, we love to see it. For me, Fernando Alonzo gets a 10 out of 10 as well. I, as I say, I kind of disagree with the level of which Aston Martin and the car that they had underneath them, they've already shown that the high downforce tracks are where they definitely can perform much better. Their efficiency and low downforce tracks, just as shocking. And as we've seen, at places like Baku and Monza, that being said, Alonzo, should he have still finished eighth or seventh, obviously, after Hamilton's penalty with that 9.2 second pit stop. I thought it was done.

Of course, I good surprised him this weekend. And when I saw that, I was like, ah, he's going to struggle to get a point now. But he just flew through the field, not that we saw any of it. But we saw the replays on Monday morning, and that was great. But a brilliant drive from Alonzo. And I sincerely hope that he gets back towards the front. I just, we got that snippet, as you say, of the team radio. I need more of that.

I need just. And then Hamilton going on Instagram afterwards with his little sketch. And dropping a really modern one foot in the grave reference. Yeah, yeah. Like old school British humour. That was about 40 will understand. Yeah, but I saw it and I was like, that is absolutely amazing. 10 out of 10 from me, the fans gave him a 9.

They think he should have got out the car and fit the wheels quicker himself. Oh, Tommy, don't call our list. Come on. Take that back. I know you've had one hour's sleep. Come on. Wait, hang on. I'm going to look at the grade and I'll tell you who's pathetic

and I'll credit the people that gave me to them. Oh no. Tommy unleashed on driver ratings. That's fine. 29.8% of you are goated and the rest of you. Right. So you've just slandered 71% of our listeners. That's great. Right. We might have to mute Tommy from here on in. Moving on to Kimmy Antonelli. Started the race in fourth, finished fifth. I'm going to lock in a 7 out of 10 for Kimmy

Antonelli. Ah, goodness, gracious me. Like, I know that we're celebrating. And seven's like a, you know, a good grade. It's good. Like, well done. You showed some pace. Showed some potential.

I honestly think he could have finished second this weekend. But he overdrove, overdrived, overdrove. Overdrove. The car in qualifying. And that just essentially put him on a massive back foot. I liked the move he put on Leclair after he knew LeCleur had break issues. I didn't obviously like it because he went past Charlerclair. But you know what I mean.

but to finish 35 seconds, I think it was at the end, off your teammate, when he had looked so good in practice and on the, it just looked like he was there. George said himself that Kimmy was literally faster than him at the start of the weekend. So it's one of those where you go, good enough, learn from it, but there is a ceiling there. And it's quite far away than what we're actually seeing right now from Kimmy Antonelli. so that's why I've gone for a seven.

Yeah, definitely. I've gone for a seven for Antonelli as well. I think he would have absolutely bitten your hand off for a P5 a few races ago when it was in that massive slump. And you think P5 should be a fantastic result. This is exactly what he should be doing. But unfortunately for him, he did look so quick in the practice sessions.

And even, you know, the Q1 and things like that. And it was like, okay, he legitimately could be right up there in qualifying here. and even after starting fourth, you know, loses a place at the start and then he found himself battling the red wheelie bins. So, yeah, not good for Anthonyville. To be fair, wheelie bins don't have breaks either. But, look, Antonelli, oh, yeah, just

is weird to be like quite a low grade for um well i'd say low grade seven same as colopinto being his teammate um so you know just more context on that one sorry stop giving context to other grades stop it you sound like the comment section i do um yeah it's it's it's disappointing for for for for kmi because it's a what might have been but it's still a positive because he's had two good results now um back to back and that that he just needed that confidence based didn't he really He did. He did. You know, you look at the drivers he's beaten, both Ferraris, who both did not have brakes. And then you look and you go, you know, it's, it is a seven, but it's a- When Russell's so comfortably won, yeah.

Like, I think it's, but obviously he's a rookie, so, you know, you take these things into account. The fans gave him a seven as well. George Russell, started the race and first, finish first. It's a 10 for George Russell, a brilliant drive, faultless, fantastic. two qualifying laps. Yes, we're seeing quite a lot of races this year where maybe a good majority of the work is done on a Saturday to win these races, but can't take it away from him to still deliver in very difficult conditions.

He looked absolutely ruined at the end there. Really long race, no respite, because apparently we don't have safety cars at Singapore anymore. And yeah, a fantastic drive from George. Give him his contract. Well, he's going to have one, isn't he? One way or another. Give him the length of contract that he deserves.

Of course, I've gone for a 10 out of 10 for George. He just, when the car is there, these are the kind of performances that George puts in. And it is scary to see in some ways. I'm like, oh no, another driver that could definitely win a world championship before my favorite driver. But look, it's, you can't take anything away from him. Qualifying was sensational, two laps within seven thousandths of each other, and then looked completely and utterly unbeatable in the race as well. Max did get close, but George didn't make any mistakes.

He lost four, almost four kilograms of weight by the end of the race. And you could tell that that race was tougher for someone like George, who I can absolutely relate to of not particularly liking. heat and to still not have that lapse of concentration, which can so easily happen. We saw it last year with Lando, who was very close to crashing from the lead. I think being in the lead is probably the most difficult one as well, because you're not chasing anybody. There's the mental strength, I guess, to just stay within your own brain and just being, you're concentrating for 62 laps. It's a phenomenal job from George. The fans gave him a 10 as well.

Yuki Sonoda started the race in 13th, finished 12th. I've gone for a... Oh dear. I think it might have to be a 4 out of 10. It's a 4 out of 10 for Yuki Sonoda. I was going to give him a 5, but it's like pity grades. I'll give him a 5 because he's in the Red Bull. Or give him a 6 because he's in the Red Bull.

But it is a 4 out of 10 performance. He got lapsed, didn't he, by his teammate? Like he was so far behind qualifying again, just nowhere near Max. He had a terrible start as well and just put himself massively on the back foot. So look, I'll go for a four. Sad to see. And again, like Baku was a little bit of a flash in the pan, but also we kind of said, didn't we, when we saw Baku of like, wasn't as good as the result would suggest.

and clearly his struggles have doubled, tripled as he head to Marina Bay. Yeah, I've gone for a four as well for Yuki Sonoda. I know, you know, the bingo of he's in the second Red Bull, which is, and it always makes it difficult to rate, but he's been in that car for a long time now. I appreciate it is, you know, everyone's been struggling in it. But he actually, you know, qualifying 13th, if he makes a great start, moves up a couple of positions. He's on for a point and it's looking like a complete different race.

But he dropped all the way down to 16th. Did he even qualify 30? They qualified 15th because of the two williams. Of course. Yeah, yeah. So even got like a good kind of boost up the grid from that and then drop those positions immediately with a poor start. So yeah, not good from Yuki.

at all and really disappointing because we all hoped that Baku might be the thing that changed but it doesn't look like it unfortunately. No, the fans gave him a five. Max Verstappen started the race in second finish second.

It's a nine out of ten for Max Verstappen. It's a very high nine. Maybe again you know him him, it seems like him and George are these two drivers that they're almost like they can deliver like a really, really good weekend,

but because they're in like cars that can win, you feel like they only get tens when they win. So yeah, and I do think that had you put the perfect lap together, and not say, I don't think the Red Bull was like clear, but I think, you know, pole could have been possible with a really, really good lap.

Not with Lando Norris there, mate. Well, exactly. Very true. But, yeah, he did very, very well to hold on to second. It looked like very early on that I think it would be like almost like a minor miracle him finishing second. It looked like it was going to be fourth and all over it and the two McLarence would

just be inevitable. But instead, he held on and eroded the championship lead again. It's funny as well, isn't it? Before I get into my grade, I wonder how our, obviously, after the main race podcast, it's our initial thoughts, isn't it, after the race? You know,

you're thinking, oh, it's maybe not enough. You know, it's not enough of a dent in Oscar's lead and things like that. Had Max won the race

and Oscar finished second and he gained a singular point more, I reckon you'd be there like, championship's on. Yeah, that's so true, actually. You know what I'm saying?

It's so weird. Yeah, it's that mentality, isn't it? Yeah. Because then you also have the argument of like, I find it ridiculous that everyone keeps sharing

the, the thing of how Max can win, it's always like, well, if Max wins every race and I was always like, well, Max isn't going to win every race. But if he had won three in a row,

you'd be like, well, maybe. But second, oh, championship off. Yeah, exactly. Okay,

my grade for Max for Stappan, I am really torn between a nine and a ten. I really am. I can see arguments for both. God, it's tough. Look,

I'm going to have to go for a nine. But it's a very high nine. I think that it's, again, it's a brilliant weekend for Max to hold off Lando the entire race at Singapore, it's hard to

pass but he still put himself in that position with a brilliant qualifying question mark of course over that second lap would he have got pole wouldn't he have got poll you know there's people flying around telemetry screenshots and things that you're like people can very easily just make just share it and be like well Max would have got pole look at this

it's yeah it would have been close but I'm going to go for a nine it's still a brilliant weekend it's just yeah George Russell's one the race and maybe not absolutely everything was got out of this weekend. But it's so close, right? I could easily give him a 10 and people would probably question that as well. So the fans gave him a 9.

Lewis Hamilton started the race and 6th finished 8th. I am going to go for a 7 out of 10 for Lewis Hamilton. Yes, he finished 8th, but he had no breaks and was going to finish 6th. although may well actually know fifth to be fair with Antonelli and the soft tire choice was was a very good choice from Ferrari and from Hamilton I guess it was sort of it helped with the fact that he had such a massive gap behind him that he could do something a little bit different

but then sadly of course his brakes went which I do not think he is at fault for I don't think he's at fault for corner cutting either I think everybody every single driver in that same position was going to do the same thing no one's going to pull over and be like all right race done one lap from the end And so yeah, I've gone for a seven for Hamilton. He was looking good this weekend in comparison to Leclair. I was concerned.

And I'm quite rightly concerned. I think Hamilton was very much on the pace of Charles this weekend. So seven. Yeah, gone for a seven as well for Lewis Hamilton. Ferrari are so difficult to grade this year because they are in this kind of no man's land now where they're looking like the fourth best car, but they're ahead of the midfield and they're just spending the entire race just hoping the car doesn't disintegrate. So yeah, I think Hamilton looked all weekend like he had, you know, he was on Charles's level and

sometimes better than him as well. So if he continues, if he continues what he did here, you know, all those questions about, oh, has Hamilton got it anymore, he's washed, all this kind of stuff, it goes completely out the window because I think he looked much stronger this year, but it's still not, not, you know, this year or this race? Sorry, this race. Sorry, I know that I just to make sure. Tom Bellingham says Hamilton looks strong this year. Yeah, yeah.

Well, we'll find out in the overall ratings at the end, won't we? You will. Yes, there we go. Okay, the fans. My brain's shutting down. Yeah, I know, I can tell. We're nearly at the end, mate. Well done.

You're doing great. Hamilton, the fans gave him a seven out of ten. Charles LeClair started the race in seventh, finish sixth. I've gone for a seven as well for Charlerc. It was kind of maybe this is this is Shal because you expect so much more from him that you're like, oh, starting seventh and finishing six, it's not great for Shal.

And I was tempted by a six, but then I watched the video of him basically lifting. and coasting the entire Grand Prix and it's just not it's just not fair is it for Ferrari and this is me the non-ferrari fan saying this that you know you you want to see them battling they've got two fantastic drivers and you and you don't want to see and it must be so so demoralizing to just start a race and know that it's immediately like right we're doing this we're lifting and coasting. It can't be fun at all. So yeah, it's a seven for Shal. I've also gone for a seven out of ten for Charlotte. How do you grade two drivers, one with which their brakes exploded

and the other one was having to lift and coast the entire race? It's not like they're even being unleashed to show their full potential. Now, if I was a Ferrari fan, I'd be, you know, absolutely devastated to watch the drivers struggle out there. But obviously with Max, my boy, you know, out there doing really well. I joke. It's full-blown, full-blown depression at this stage. I've lost all hope.

All delusion has gone down the toilet for Ferrari this year. They've got no new parts. Nothing's coming to the car for the rest of the year. They are stuck with their brand new philosophy for 2025, which, Tommy, you were absolutely correct at the start of the year. Congratulations, Ferrari have been a flop. I mean, that has aged so well. Yeah, yeah, and not like I said with my chest that Ferrari would be Constructed Champion.

And in fact, it was McLaren with six races to go. But it's a seven out of ten still because I think Charlotte Clare did a pretty good job for what he had to manage. And that's all I really have to say on the matter. It is just sad to watch. The fans gave him a seven as well. Oscar Piastri started the race in third, finish fourth. Well, this will not be controversial in the slightest. this I might just not grade

I think that's probably easier I'll just say he had a race McLaren very good be a very McLaren of it Let's just keep it fair Piastri and Norris Not applicable Okay so Oscar Piaastri

I am going to give him a 7 out of 10 Because yes he qualified Just ahead of his teammate Lando 3rd and 5th respectively It was very close About half a 10th I think Between the two of them

Oscar then The move the move happens. Lando's slightly out of control. Gets budged wide. But I'm judging the seven slightly on more just the rest of the race. He looked like he just wasn't able to get close to make an overtake. Lando was on the back of Max for 30-odd laps.

And you think about the amount of time you lose sitting behind a car in dirty air that close. So I'm kind of judging it on potential pace. It's very difficult around Singapore, isn't it, to kind of really get a gauge. but fourth for the championship leader in a McLaren that I absolutely am convinced was still the fastest car this weekend especially in race trim just purely from what we saw with Lando and how close he was behind Max but for Oscar it was a it was a confident settler but it was nothing more than that after Baku I've gone four

so this is so so difficult I think it's tough isn't because it depends if you look at the Norris Piastry thing and go well he was barged off the track Yeah, yeah. Things like that. But the stewards deemed it a racing incident. It was a racing incident. Like Oscar did get passed by Lando. So yeah, what were you going to give, Tommy Oster?

I'll go for an eight out of ten. And it is a low eight. I'm on the fence between a seven and an eight. And it kind of the context appears when you go into the next grade. But yeah, for Piastri, you're right. It's more, it's like a decent confidence boost. I said this in the main podcast. there are still little worrying signs that Piastri is not maybe on the best form.

He's not an absolutely horrendous form, other than Baku. But this is, you know, a few times, I think it's, what, three of the last four now, Norris has beaten him. So, yeah, he, of course, is right to be aggrieved by the turn one incident because it was very aggressive. It wasn't very papyrals. It wasn't very papy rolls at all. And we've said there's so many times the two things can coexist that you think it's a racing incident, but you also think Piastri is well within his right because he was probably super, I'm giving in the benefit of the doubt at the start as well, that he was probably more cautious because it's Lando

and he thinks, well, nothing crazy is going to happen here because we have this papaya rules thing where we have to give each other so much space and it's all got to be lovely and fair and stuff. So for them to get barged out the way, he's probably like, well, yeah, like he's miffed. But he didn't, you know, I did expect more from him to kind of catch up. Of course, he had the slow pit stop again from, you know, McLaren at this time it was his turn. But yeah, it's a low age. Two seconds behind Lando and it was a three second. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Should they have swapped? Is that, is that racing? Is that part of racing now? Is that papy rolls or not? I don't know. obviously we're joking

the fans gave Oscar Piestri a 7 out of 10 Landau Norris started the race in 5th, finished 3rd I've gone for an 8 out of 10 for Lando Norris as well again for me Lando is kind of a

higher 8 but not enough of a difference between the two of them to give a difference in grade, this is just my opinion to give a difference in grade between the two of them. I know crazy, right? God forbid!

I know that it's different to everyone else and not every single person has the same one because that would make this series incredibly boring. But I actually will say forever that I am glad Lando finally got his elbows out. Yes, it was clumsy and a bit messy. But I want to see some championship fight from him, and we did see that. And yes, I think it was borderline. And I can see why Oscar's annoyed.

But he's going for the championship. He made an aggressive move. But I can't give him a whole grade higher than Oscar because for me, Oscar, you know, was quicker in qualifying and they were very close at the end of the race. So, yeah, it's a close, but eight. Okay. for Lando Norris, I have gone for an eight out of ten, so I have gone for the dreaded one point difference

because that is massive in driver ratings. But it's more like a 7.8 for Oscar and an 8.1 for Landa. You know what I mean? I think Lando was slightly better, especially in the race this weekend. Yeah, he didn't deliver in qualifying as well, but he had a fantastic start and undid any qualifying woes within the first three corners.

Yes, his move was clumsy, but it was a racing instant. it's racing, sometimes they touch. They touch Martin. And I genuinely think that Lando did the right thing to just send one. Like he has to. He's behind in the championship. And I will also lord the fact that he went for something again.

And also it's not, it wasn't, I do, I do completely agree with Lando here that when he's kind of saying that like there was a lot of room on the inside. It's not like he's absolutely gone for something completely ridiculous. You know, Canada, he held his hands up because it was a ridiculous move to go for and he went for a gap that wasn't there and crashed. But this, you know, the door was open to go for it. And yes, you know, he got caught out by Max and made the collision. But you absolutely, you know, see why in that situation he would go for it because he's trying to win a world championship. And it would make absolutely no sense for me to sit here and say, I can't believe Lando went for that move

when we have criticised him. So much for never going for it. But not going for a move. Not being Max Verstappen. And every argument I've seen about this is like, if that was Max, everyone would be saying like, it's penalty, it's dirty driving. But I also, and maybe some people would, because people will always say that on Twitter. But I also think a lot of people would go, this is why Max is Max. You know, while Oscar and Lando are maybe a bit more cautious.

Max barges everyone out the way and, you know, makes the move and stuff. And Lando finally does something like that and then gets just as much criticism. So, yeah, like, I'm glad for this championship that that has happened because it's going to make it much more interesting as, you know, to watch it. Yeah. Hopefully Lando has subsequently deleted papyrals in one fell swoop with that move on that one. And if not, Oscar Piazsche Willem, I'm sure. Oh, yeah, for sure. So, yeah, 8 out of 10 from me, the fans gave Lando an 8 as well.

So who is our P1 for me? My P1 is George Russell a perfect weekend. It has to be a 10 from me. And not much more to say from it. I look forward to George Russell winning Las Vegas. That'll be the next time Mercedes turn up. And, yeah, George is my P1. indeed easily george russell even though fernando loneso was brilliant and also got a 10 um george russell was just

perfect um you know what what's what a weekend from from him well i say what a weekend what yeah yeah what a weekend not friday because friday was terrible but who cares about friday not me yeah he's he's definitely managed to delete any friday happenings with a ridiculously dominant weekend from saturday onwards right that is it thank you everybody for tuning in to this f1 driver for the Singapore Grand Prix. Next time will be Austin. Looking forward to that one. Tommy, what are your final thoughts? Yeah, I say I don't care about Friday. I will next time because it's a sprint and we all know how fun that makes driver ratings and subjective and more difficult so we love to see it. Yeah, so tune into that one. Can't wait for it. See you in the

comment section in a little bit and yeah, lots of love. Have a lovely off week and we will see you soon. Bye! is a Stack production and part of the ACAST created network.