P1 with Matt and Tommy - What the F1 table would look like WITHOUT Red Bull

Episode Date: August 3, 2023

Look, we know Red Bull are brilliant. Max Verstappen is absolutely brilliant. Sergio Perez is... sometimes brilliant. But what sort of season would we have had so far if they weren't involved? We've w...orked it all out - and the title fight would be next level! You can grab our new merch here!Follow us on socials! You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Twitch, YouTube and TikTok. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:06 Hello everybody and welcome back to the P. One podcast with Matt and Tommy. We are into summer break. But as we promised, we ain't going nowhere. And here we are with a crazy scenario and something. We're just feeding the imaginations of people, aren't we, Tommy, that you know what, without Red Bull, we've got one of the greatest seasons on our hands.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Exactly. And it's peak summer break content. I can see all the comments now going, you know what? Like, it is summer break content. It's a bit of fun and it's just a bit of a thing to keep you all entertained during the break. I'm just going to say, a disclaimer right at the top of the show. We commend Red Bull's achievements. What an amazing wind streak that they're on.
Starting point is 00:00:57 But that doesn't mean we can't imagine life without them just for one episode. Maybe two. Exactly. I can't live every race. They can't win every race. It happens in the past, you know, we've, we've, there's talk of like, oh, you know, would Schumacher have won the title if he hadn't to break his leg halfway 39? Matt's going to go, yes, absolutely. And like, they have won every season since.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Exactly. Like, oh, what if Hamilton had never gone to Mercedes? Like, it's just a bit of fun. Lonsa won every title. Yeah, it's just a bit of fun. I'm a Maxo Stappen fan, so don't. Are you Tommy though? I want to question it. How dare you root for anyone else?
Starting point is 00:01:38 You have to be tunnel vision. I'm waving. Audio listeners, he's waving a Lewis Hamilton flag. Yeah, we've absolutely out of day. It was a max for seven flag. Yeah, but yeah, it's just a bit of fun. So don't take it too seriously. It's all hypothetical, of course.
Starting point is 00:01:58 And I'll have a little mini rant at the end because... At the end? I thought it was at the square. No, no. This was kind of what it was going to be. Like, just don't take it too seriously. But at the end, there's a bit of like a thought about like Red Bull in this season. So I'll save it for the end to cover it. Prepared.
Starting point is 00:02:19 The final thought is already locked in. Wait for Tommy's final thought. Here we go. Now, before we dive into it, we need to share a five-star review. If you want yours to be read out, please do leave us one. It helps us so much in growing the podcast. And we really do appreciate it. This one comes in from TA 8787, 87 from in the UK.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Simply lovely, mate. What a podcast. Beautiful dynamic. Lovely to listen to P1 while Rubik's cubing. I like that. I like just hearing random things that people would do. I was just imagining any situation, just like shopping. Great situation.
Starting point is 00:02:52 In the bath. Great situation. Like, wherever. Rubes keeping in the bar. Making off to Tom Bellingham. Great situation. to listen to people in that time. Right, let's begin with starting with a question from Ulis Rojas.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Do you agree with Hamilton's take that without Red Bull, the championship would be super hype? I believe this particular piece of content is about to tell you, yes. Spoiler alert. We constantly talk about how the fight for P2 is chopping and changing left, right and centre. You've had Aston Martin second fastest. Sometimes, you know, even knocking on the door, a red bull at the start of the year. Then you had Ferrari, then you had Mercedes, McLaren popping out nowhere. You know the headlines would be, can McLaren mount a championship comeback in the second
Starting point is 00:03:48 half of the year? Don't think so after SPAR. But all of these storylines would be flying off the shelves. Like you'd have Alonzo, 42 years old now. Can he win the world? Can Lance Stroll somehow make Aston Martin Constructors world champions, or will he just constantly score two points every week? Lots of storylines, eh, Tommy? There's so many storylines. Like, I hate to depress every non-red Bull fan, but it's even better than you could possibly imagine
Starting point is 00:04:18 because we've gone through it, and we're going to talk about each race, and yeah, it's wild. Okay, so lots of questions. Without Red Bull, how close would it be? who would dominate? Would someone else dominate? Would we have lots of different winners? Let's dive into it right now.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Starting with the Bahrain Grand Prix. We're going to go through it moment by moment because of course, Charlotte Clare would lead from Pohl. And that is a great start to this scenario, isn't it? It's a great start to imagining what life would have been like. I know. And your whole, who will be world champion? Charlotte, Clair.
Starting point is 00:04:56 shall look like that would that wouldn't have aged us so badly would have been like Matt you're the oracle like well done well maybe does it we're about to yeah later on he d-nft which would have been from the lead which uh yes very depressing um you would then have had a lonso with that poor start dropping back but then fighting back with hamilton and signs pulling off the the most miraculous move you've ever seen in that double left hander on hamilton and it would have just been hype McGee, as I'd like to phrase it. Yes. This is something that will happen throughout this entire podcast,
Starting point is 00:05:36 but it is funny how race is where you're just kind of like, don't get me wrong, we still all love a fight for the midfield positions or the like, topper points. But when it's for the lead, it's so much more spectacular. And it just show that like when it's for the lead, like the storylines of this season would be. absolutely insane. And yeah, that Alonzo move fighting back through the field, passing Hamilton in that way would have been Alonzo like fighting through the field to win, like insane.
Starting point is 00:06:06 To take his 33rd race win and he would have done so after, as I say, Charles Lear retiring from the lead, can you imagine your Twitch reaction? Can you imagine how I would have reacted. I would have thrown my chair out the window. but yeah, Alonso would have won, one on his Aston Martin debut, and it would have been an Alonzo-Signs-Hamilton podium. But the biggest story, I think, of anything there, Logi Bear, with his picnic baskets,
Starting point is 00:06:42 would have got a point in P-10. Absolutely, yeah, Logie Bear getting a point on the board straight away. I do love, by the way, we're just kind of going down the route of Red Bull, literally not existing as opposed to a... like being a midfield team and beating Logisage to P10. Yeah, exactly. Like, Vestappan and Perez don't exist.
Starting point is 00:07:00 It's an 18 car field now. Yeah, and obviously, just to cover like the comments, it will be like, you can never predict how different things will play out. So this is literally just removing them from the race. And then, of course, like, I'm sure we'll, like, just to cover it, of course, you know, say when Vestappen had a problem with Russell or whatever, like that wouldn't have happened. but just for the sake of ease and obviously it's all hypothetical
Starting point is 00:07:26 they're just not in and we've bumped everyone up so that's... Yeah, we can't simulate a new race can't be without us happen and embarrass us? Imagine we go through, we get like James Vals and get the Williams strategy team to simulate a whole race for us. Absolutely. But yeah, what a...
Starting point is 00:07:41 That would be a great little scenario, wouldn't it? It would. But yeah, what an opening race, a Spanish one-two and Alonzo like, imagine, yeah, he'd watch. on that first race. I mean, he's still, obviously, getting on the podium, it silenced all the critics about his move to Aston and, like, what to return. Including us. Including us. Yeah, seen that clip, but a thousand times. Thanks for sharing it.
Starting point is 00:08:04 It's a great edit, to be fair. Yeah, I love it. It's funny. It's actually hype. So, well done, Fernando Alonzo. I'm winning the first race of the season. I can just imagine Tom Bellingham on the podcast, just... You can imagine what that might have been. Like, he would have been absolutely losing his mind, wouldn't you, mate? I would. I'd have been... And it would have been my birthday as well. Like, what a dream. Jeez. Unfortunately, it didn't happen though, mate, because this is all hypothetical.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I'm so sorry. We now go to the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix. Where, once again, Tommy's losing his mind right now. Fernando Alonzo's on poll. Now, again, I can see the comments already. Yeah. He's on pole. It's a different grid box, guys. So, therefore, he wouldn't have... However, we are just doing this for ease.
Starting point is 00:08:55 But he would have been out of his grid spot and given a penalty. But he would have still got on to win. And then we would have actually been saying that this season is actually not very good at all. And it's just a Fernando Alonzo domination. And he would have been hated by the end of the year because that's what happens when people dominate. Now, I'm joking. But at the start, yeah, there would have been a back-to-back Alonzo victories. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:18 So if you remember, the Alonzo is. incident was actually where he came into the pits and the team touched his car too early with the five second penalty. And that would have happened where we'd have got, at the end of the race, Lonzo would have won again. Then we'd have found out that Russell actually won. And then they'd have protested it and had it overturned. So yeah, changed. It would have been a change for the Twitter. Sorry, X would have been like then. Oh, the controversy of that if it had been for the win. It'd have been a lot more spicy, wouldn't it? And instead it was just kind of like, oh, Lonzo's got the place back. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:52 Alonso, all this Alonso dominant, it's so boring, isn't it? I'm getting sick of this video already, to be honest with you, mate. I can see why you've done this. Oh, it's so crazy, Matt. Trust me, we should talk about this, and it's just Fernando Alonzo. We now go to the Australian Grand Prix after an Alonzo-Russell-Hamilton podium at Saudi, where Russell leads a Mercedes-1-2 after starting on pole, but then catastrophe strikes when Russell has an engine failure while in contention for the win.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Yeah, that would have been, again, like it's all these little dramas of the season that are like, oh, that's a little, and there's a lot of these throughout this way, kind of like, oh, that's a bit crazy. But when it's affecting the championship and the lead and things like that, like the storylines would be insane.
Starting point is 00:10:44 You certainly would. And of course, we had that insane restart chaos thing where no one had grip, and that would have been Alonzo being punted by signs. But what position would that have been for, Tommy? That would have been probably, I think, second place maybe. Yeah, because Hamilton was leading. But funny you mentioned that.
Starting point is 00:11:05 We mentioned about your reaction. My obviously now infamous reaction to Holkenberg being fourth, Holkenberg would have been third. Imagine how much I'd have gone absolutely insane for that. And he'd have been in the podium spot. They'd have red flagged the race and then he'd have lost it. Imagine the pain of that happening. So now I understand, you're actually a Nikolkulke-Henberg hater and you just wanted to
Starting point is 00:11:34 take away that podium in this hypothetical scenario. Yeah, I love, as I've learned from Twitter or X, I absolutely, and our YouTube comments, I love and hate every driver in equal measure. Look, and that means we're doing something right if we do. love and hate every single driver because it means that we are straight down the middle, maybe. I don't know. But yes, Hamilton would have won that Australian Grand Prix ahead of Alonzo and Lance Stroll
Starting point is 00:12:00 would have somehow managed to get a podium finished despite ending up in the gravel before that red flag, I guess, countback that we call it. Holcomberg would have finished P5, which would have been an amazing scene, but then not as good as scenes as if he'd finished P3. And then the championship standings after the Australian Grand Prix would have been Alonzo on 69 points, nice. Then you had Lewis Hamilton 55 and then signs 32. So right now, three races in, you can see the headlines.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Alonzo versus Hamilton. The two Titans. Who will Hamilton get his eight? Will Alonzo get his third? Oh my God. You can just, you can see it now. You really can. Yeah, wild that those two would be, yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:45 locked in a title. fight and they are very much locked in the fight for third, which is slightly less exciting, but it's still cool to see Hamilton and Alonzo racing wheel to wheel. Have all of these included the fastest lap points as well? Yes, they have. Wow. And you, oh, come on. That's unbelievable from you.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Okay, cool. So that is how the championship stands going into Azerbaijan, 14 points between Alonzo and Hamilton. And this is where, look, I come into my own. This is where Baku, all of a sudden, this is where I start to get a bit of momentum. Ferrari, are they back? Because of course, LeCler, we don't even need to delete Red Bull. He takes pole in both the sprint and the real race because he is the goat.
Starting point is 00:13:30 It doesn't matter. That's the only thing, isn't it, that I think this year that they've been beaten, is it not, in any kind of session? Has anyone else been on board? No, Hamilton Poll, of course. Yeah, Hamilton Poll, hungry. Yeah, so it's been very rare, isn't it? It has been very, very rare
Starting point is 00:13:46 because you've been frauding your way to points every single week by going for the Stapp and Pole. And as soon as I do it, I don't get a point. So, of course, LeClerre then manages to convert a sprint win, a head of Russell and Signs, and then goes on to win the Azerbaijan Grand Prix as well. Back to back little victories,
Starting point is 00:14:05 a full points hole. And I'm loving a match right now. Yeah, and what a finish it would have been because Alonzo was less than a second. He was slip streaming LeCler to the line. Yeah, well, look, no, but what I would say there, Tommy, is that LeCleard a lot in the bag.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And, you know, I know that we're going like for like and all it's just Red Bull. No, this is one point where I'll step in and go, LeClearned at least 10 seconds more race pace there to really extend that advantage. I mean, can we just imagine you on the Twitch watch along? Alonzo, like, slip streaming LeClear to the line to deny him victory. Like, me and you,
Starting point is 00:14:40 how we'd have had a bit on that. And Science P3, again, like, it's insane. I feel like Science is on the podium every race in this scenario. It's really weird, and he's not got a podium this year. Well, that is, yeah. LeClau's had three, and Science has had big fat zero, which is...
Starting point is 00:15:00 It's a theme throughout this that a little science loves a podium in this. P3s. Okay, we now go to the Miami Grand Prix. And, you know, we get back to again Fernando Alonzo. He's back again. Boring. He wins comfortably.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Ahead of George Russell and Carlos Sines, we're then questioning, is this Aston Martin dominance good for the sport? Have they spent $5 billion? Is it, you know, is it going to be ripped away from them at the end of the year? My theory of the fact that they had spent $5 billion and were just on some sort of like, you know, banter year where they just get spoken about a lot, Alonzo wins a lot. Everyone feels that emotion.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Yeah, it gets ripped off at the end of the year. year, but we lived and breathed Fernando Alonzo winning lots of races. So I felt like that would have actually been a kind of quite accurate theory at the time. Yeah, we shall see because there are talks of potential budget cap breaches again, which actually are. Yeah, I guess last year still technically they were probably building into this year and so on. So we'll find out. But yeah, interesting. That could be a tasty little chat when that eventually comes out. So yes, Alonzo, as I say, ahead of Russell and Sines. Sonoda finishes 9th, which would have been his fifth consecutive points finish.
Starting point is 00:16:15 He'd been in the points every race. Because he loves an 11th place, doesn't it? No, bless him. Yeah. So well on Yuki, on some consistently good performances. And then as the title stands after Miami, again, Alonzo dominating. 118 points plays Hamilton's 83. And Carlos Sines is currently sitting there in third place, 68.
Starting point is 00:16:38 points. Science loving it, like bagging all the podiums. Hmm. Yeah, still not seeing LeClaire in this top three, which is really quite upsetting. We now go to the Monaco Grand Prix, and this is where we really start to question what's going on, because Alonso would have had a lights to flag victory to extend his title lead. So boring, isn't it? I mean, to be fair to you, mate, at this point, I am getting bored. You know, like, what is this trying to say, everyone listening is going, but you said this was crazy, but don't worry, Aston fall off, as we know.
Starting point is 00:17:14 But he, at this point, extends his title lead on Hamilton. Estaban Ockon has an amazing P2 ahead of Hamilton and P3, which then leaves the championship standings, Alonzo 143, Hamilton 99, signed 74, and Russell 74,
Starting point is 00:17:28 still not seeing Leclair in this. I know. He'll arrive, maybe. No thoughts on Monaco? That's all you're going to say? Yeah, it just, it's funny that... And we would have been there as well. Maybe, no, maybe this...
Starting point is 00:17:45 Actually, no, we wouldn't, because we were on the Red Bull Energy Station. Yes, so Red Bull doesn't exist. We would have drowned and died. Oh, no. And that all the people that hate this video are happy because we don't exist either. But thank you for the view. Oh, dear. But yeah, maybe this is...
Starting point is 00:18:07 Maybe in a weird scenario, dare I say this is the only... This is like the race that actually could potentially be more boring than the IRL one because you don't have a fight between Alonzo and Verstappen and there's not the jeopardy. And Alonzo just takes a boring win. And because he'd have won pretty much all the races, we'd have been like, oh, okay, cool, Alonzo's won. And then we definitely would have been questioning,
Starting point is 00:18:33 does Monaco deserve to be on the calendar? Yada, yada, yada. So yeah, interesting stuff. And then we have the Spanish Grand Prix up next. and Carlos Sines would have taken a miraculous pole position ahead of Lando Norris and Pierre Gerslie. What top three that is? That is a very good top three.
Starting point is 00:18:52 However, no conversion as Hamilton would have had a comfortable win and securing a Mercedes-1-2 with Russell in P2. Yeah, and another podium for Science. He's not had any, and he's had one in, I think, every race bar two so far, which shows that he was bagging consistent points with like P4s and P5 to the start of the year. So yeah, crazy. Still not seeing Leclair anywhere.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Yeah, he's still not there. That's really quite depressing. So title leader Alonzo, only fifth, which means, and I'm not going to read this out because I'm not going to run Burgundy at Tommy, but you said that then Alonzo closes the gap to 28 points to Alonzo. So Alonzo is fighting himself in this championship. But of course, that's 28 points.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Hamilton is behind. Alonso now, so nearly within a race win. So lots of hype going into the Canadian Grand Prix, where Nika Holkeberg would have been on pole, which I think is absolutely worth all of our imagination that we've been using to really sort of generate this as a real thing. And then he'd have lost it with a grid drop. Oh yeah, maybe not that part.
Starting point is 00:20:04 But the scenes, the scenes that would have happened. Yeah, insane. So then... Another house pole. A Hasse pole, but not a poll, because as everyone knows, if you don't start from pole, it's not a pole position. Okay, it does not go down as a poll statistic. Charlotte Clare has 20 polls, okay?
Starting point is 00:20:21 Thank you very much. But then, obviously, Nico, not starting from the front. It was Hamilton, who would then take the lead from Alonzo off the start. Oh, my God, the scenes! The two title rivals going side by side. You know what I mean? There's a lot of that. But then Alonzo gets it right back from him during the race
Starting point is 00:20:38 and takes the win away from Lewis Hamilton. Oh my God, the scenes. Hamilton and Alonso, yeah, like locked in a title battle. It seemed to be fighting around the leading positions every race. But hanging on to the back of that fight would have been George Russell, who slammed it into the wall and he would have been in a podium shot. He did, yeah. And we would have been saying, look, he's there or thereabouts.
Starting point is 00:21:03 You know, he could have mounted a championship challenge as he, you know, gained some momentum. but no, Russell crashes out. But then, you know, that's a big move because Charles LeClerc gets himself on the podium to join Alonzo and Hamilton. And all of a sudden, I'm wondering, is it championship back on for Ferrari?
Starting point is 00:21:20 Well, spoiler alert. Yes, because next. Yeah? It's a sprint weekend, and we know how much Ferrari love a sprint weekend. Come on then, let's go to the Austrian Grand Prix. Oh, yeah. Top three in the sprint.
Starting point is 00:21:33 It would have been signs stroll to Alonzo because Leclair was reasonably washed, I remember, in that. Yeah, that's just reminded me actually that I'm not putting the sheet, that in the sprint that would have meant that Holkenberg would have led at the start. Because he was second, wasn't he? Yeah. So, yeah, exciting times. How dare you forget Nico Holmberg?
Starting point is 00:21:52 You said you come across like you're a fan of it. I told you, I hate and love it, apparently. I hate and love it. So the sprint, whatever, you know, LeClau's not there. Signed, Stroll, Alonzo. Well done, good stuff. But the main race, Charles Leclair, domination. And this is where I would have been arguing
Starting point is 00:22:08 domination is good when it's Charlotte Cloe at the front. I'm obviously kidding, but he would have won that race in Austria ahead of Norris and Alonzo with Lewis Hamilton, our nearest championship rival to Alonzo, only managing P6,
Starting point is 00:22:25 which then meant that Alonzo almost two wins clear again of Hamilton in the title. Yes. Looking like Alonzo is, yeah, quite clear in the title and Hamilton's dropping back. But then we get to the twist, the British Grand Prix.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Twisty Poo McGee, here we go, the British Grand Prix. And McLaren come out of nowhere. McLaren front row, Lando Norris, on pole ahead of Oscar Piastri. We're all going, where the hell has this come from? Is it too late? Are McLaren back? after being gone for quite some time as opposed to Ferrari being back
Starting point is 00:23:06 potentially a little bit last year. The mid-race safety car comes out puts Hamilton P2 behind Norris and they have two Brits a battle side by side for the victory at Silverstone. My goodness me. That would be a clip played for 100 years.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I think it would be a race that would be remembered for 100 years. It would be one of the most iconic British Grand Prix ever, which again kind of goes back to the point that battles for the lead, like, hit different. And it was still incredible to watch Hamilton and Norris fight. But the scenes, if that was for the win,
Starting point is 00:23:49 would have been absolutely insane. Unbelievable. With Fernando Alonzo, only managing fifth, the podium would have been Norris, of course, taking the victory ahead of Hamilton, and then Piastri gets his podium, come on! Which of course helps Hamilton to close the gap at finishing head of Alonzo,
Starting point is 00:24:08 but the most important thing once again, Logi Sarge points. P6 and P9 for Williams. William's all of a sudden, are they entering the conversation? Could Loki Sarge mount a championship challenge in the second half of the year? Our video after FB1 at Silverstein
Starting point is 00:24:24 would have been, can Williams fight for the title? Yeah, what a wild. wild season. And then, yeah, Norris taking his first win at Silverstone. What scenes. The scenes of that would have been unbelievable. Max first up on, why do you ruin everything? I'm joking. I'm joking. Max, you're doing great. Hungarian Grand Prix now. And Hamilton takes poll. Well, he took pole. That's real. That's real as well. Yeah, it's real. Let's accept that that was real. That happened. The real thing counter in the videos. Ticked over to three.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Three, yeah. Hamilton taking poll from Lando Norris in the second row, Piastri and Joe. Norris, again, beating Hamilton to victory with Oscar Piastri picking up a nice little P3. And that would mean the title leader Alonzo finishing seventh. And Aston Martin, all of a sudden falling off the edge of a cliff and they're the fourth best car. Alonzo narrowly above the race win, actually, to be fair, race win and fastest lap, 26 points. clear of Hamilton in the championship after the Hungarian Grand Prix. Yeah, and I'd particularly be getting a bit nervous that, yeah, Aston might have fallen off a cliff and is Alonzo
Starting point is 00:25:40 after looking like he's going to dominate this championship, looking like the momentum's shifted, and a bit like what seems like many championships with Fernando Alonzo, particularly like when he was at Ferrari, like getting away from him. and yeah like what a twist like after the British Grand Prix Alonzo's spoken about it like you know it might be tyres or something like that that's helped McLaren catch up and Aston Martin struggling
Starting point is 00:26:12 and yeah like the season kind of turns on its head with the form really right we now move into our final race of imagination and reflection Belgian Grand Prix and this is where again come into my own Friday to LeClaire takes a poll position for the main race? Technically would have happened, did happen, just saying. You know what I mean? Took poll? Everyone he took pole.
Starting point is 00:26:36 He got the statistic. Check it, 20 polls. Max would have changed his imaginary gearbox on iraicings at a home. Exactly. And then on Saturday, Oscar Piastri would have taken sprint pole and then won the sprint, which would have been a rather sensational moment, I believe, for Oscar and McLaren fans. Gassley would have finished P2 and signs, again, with a nice little P3. He just sneaks in every single time in that third spot.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And the title leader, Alonzo, would have spun out the sprint? Although, would that have been a big thing. He would have been running down in about 15th anyway or 14th. So it's not like it was a massive deal. But, of course, points missing for Alonzo once again. And then into the main race, Charlotte-Clo wins. out of Hamilton to win from pole Hamilton gets the fastest lap point
Starting point is 00:27:30 and Alonzo somehow manages to fraud his way to P3 which would have, yeah, again, that would have been a serious damage limitation headline. Yeah, and of course this is where the whole thing comes into a bit of jeopardy because obviously Hamilton would have got a penalty of crashing into an imaginary Sergio Perez but we'll ignore that.
Starting point is 00:27:49 But it's just like you say, it's carried on like we've just shifted the points up and yeah, Alonzo Alonzo and Hamilton really are locked in that title battle and at this point Alonzo's won five races Hamilton's won two races
Starting point is 00:28:08 Lecler's won three races and one sprint Sainz has won a sprint Norris has won two races and Piastri's won a sprint. Quite a lovely season eh So going into the summer break Alonzo would be leading the title from Hamilton by just 19 points.
Starting point is 00:28:25 So the full top 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. The top 7 would be Alonzo on 230, Hamilton on 211, Leclair on 151, Russell 144, signs 139, Norris 107 and Stroll 83. So all to play for is how I'm reading that.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Yeah, definitely. I mean, even, could argue even like someone like Lando Norris if his form and McLaren keep doing well, still half the season to go. 123 points behind Alonzo. Will he win? We'll have to find out
Starting point is 00:28:57 in our second half of our imaginary season. Mercedes would be leading the constructors on 355, despite not leading the drivers. Aston will be on 313, and then Ferrari will be on 290. So that's pretty close.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Yeah, close title. Quite telling of how Lance Stroll has performed. Yeah, you're right, though. It is interesting that maybe when their second, third in the title, it's not as important, but I think, you know, if it would literally be costing Asimuton, the Constructors World Title, I think the conversation would ramp up even more, which just shows that, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:36 you slip under the radar a bit more when you're not at the front. Absolutely. And that pretty much wraps up our imaginary season without Red Bull. Now, well done to Red Bull for doing what you're doing, because we are witnessing history. we have to appreciate just how well they have done and how badly everyone else is doing in comparison. I actually read a thing before doing this podcast where they were lifting Apo Rouge
Starting point is 00:30:03 and costing potentially half a second a lap. Shout out to break for looking into that. I think Red Bull probably have another second in their locker that they're not even using. So hence why this is even more important to imagine them not here. Yeah. You're right there. We have to commend them for an
Starting point is 00:30:21 amazing season. Like I said, I read out all those different winners. And the reality is, the only winners have been Red Bull. Max completely dominating. And when Max hasn't won anything, Sergio Perez has won. And yeah, like I said,
Starting point is 00:30:39 I did say I was going to kind of cover off those comments of people being like, oh, it's so disrespectful to Red Bull and stuff. But kind of, no, it's just a bit of, one, it's just a bit of fun and just enjoy a bit of like, like it's just if and i think if anything this whole scenario shows how even more impressive red bull are because you look at the changing of it's Ferrari then it's Aston then it's McLaren then it's Mercedes yet red bull first first they haven't changed so it just shows how even more impressive and you know everyone in that team fair play you know they don't have a day off
Starting point is 00:31:21 Max doesn't have a day off. They could quite easily be resting and being like, oh, you know what? We don't need to worry about pit stops because we're 20 seconds up the road and then bam, 1.9 seconds in Hungary or wherever it was. Like, they're unbelievable. And yeah, I think it's just fun to look back on this season, but without them because we want a close title fight. Like that is what Formula One fans want.
Starting point is 00:31:49 But, yeah, we can commend. them as well and they've done an unbelievable job so fair play to them they can be uh incredibly proud of themselves and they're going to like end up making history like it's an unbelievable run it we could quite possibly see the greatest season ever from a team yeah a clean sweep is very much on the cards as much as we might not enjoy it too much as uh fans that want to see competition but look they've done an amazing job uh well done to red bull it's just a bit of fun bit of a twist bit of a turn bit of a bit of craziness and that's what you expect from
Starting point is 00:32:24 us at P1 so that was Tommy's final thought very well comprehended thank you that's that the word I don't know anyway thank you so much everybody I hope you enjoying the summer break we will be back for lots more content we've got predictions and we've got
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