P1 with Matt and Tommy - What will the F1 calendar look like in 2030?

Episode Date: April 17, 2023

The F1 calendar could look VERY different in 2030 with more street circuits and traditional tracks dropped. We share our thoughts on how an F1 season may look in seven years time as well as diving into your opinions.Follow us on socials! You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Twitch, YouTube and TikTok.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, everybody and welcome back to the P-Wast with Matt and Tommy. Yes, Tommy is back. After a week holiday, how dare you? I did not approve that in our holiday system. You just went to the Netherlands and had a great time, didn't you? I did. It was really good. But yeah, it's weird, though, because I guess we pre-recorded stuff, so people didn't.

There was one episode that I wasn't on, which was great. who was amazing. Yeah, it was really good. I listened to that while I was away, enjoyed it. Did you have nice holiday? I did. It was really good. Grace's first birthday.

First time flying with a baby, so that was an experience. But it certainly was an experience. Yes. Yeah, yeah. We were texting and it sounded like you were actually more stressed going on holiday than you were doing any kind of form of work. When I was there, it was good. It's the flight.

Flying is bad. And then imagine with a little person. Anyway, for me, Should we talk about it? Actually, before we do. Yeah, I know, to be fair. That's why we're looking into the future, 2030. But yes, the Connemour episode was great.

It's annoying, actually, because he actually said he would have done an impression of you, had I given him enough heads up. And he would have done like a line or two. And maybe I would have kept him. So maybe that would have been it. What you're saying is book another holiday. Yeah, if you want to go on a two-week holiday, let me know. No reason.

Anyway, today we're going to be looking ahead to what the F-1 calendar might look like. in 2030. And I feel as though there'll be a solid amount of change. By then, however, there are some tracks that are on the calendar until the end of time. These are Abu Dhabi, 2030, Miami, 2013. Saudi also the same. Canada also the same. Qatar, 232.

Bahrain, 2036. And Australia was like, hey, I want to be on here till the end of time with. 2037 being the end of their contract. Those are some long-term juicy deals, right? Minus, I guess, Australia and Canada. Not really the fan favourites that have stayed on the calendar long. It's the money treks. Yeah, not massively overwhelmed by that list.

I find it, I don't know why, but I find it weird that Australia has the longest deal out of everyone. How did they manage to swindle? When was this done? This was done a few years ago as well. wasn't like a 20-year agreement or something ridiculous. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, it's a good track.

Maybe it was due a banger. It had the banger last time. And there's always good vibes there. And there should be an Australian Grand Prix, definitely. No doubt about it. So I'm glad that one is on there, whether it's the best circuit in the world. Not sure, but that is a weird one. I mean, Bahrain is also a really long one, 2036.

And to be fair to Bahrain has produced some, some good races. I feel like Hungary also had a really long deal. There was rumours that it was going to sign a deal to like 2038, but so far, not anything at the moment. Not been confirmed for those really loving the Hungarian Grand Prix circuit. Although that is an underrated banger, isn't it? As much as on paper it looks pretty dead.

But it's pretty solid. interestingly Stefano Domenicali recently said that history is not enough to stay on the F1 calendar Tommy's Monaco fanboy is making a lot of friends

isn't he Dominicali he literally loves a statement doesn't he? In this one he said to be arrogant and believe you have a granted race because you've had a race for 100 years

to be very honest is not enough he's dropping some bombs has Monaco been on there for 100 years not quite but he's yeah he's dropping a lot

of very extreme opinions that aren't particularly pro for like he's not impressing the fans now I know there'll be the argument of all fans will just watch anyway and it's the new people you need to impress but yeah that's uh quite the statement because there's a lot of traditional circuits that people think deserve to be on the calendar and it's always a worry for people that certain races will go uh even the traditional ones that maybe do always provide good races or of got a lot of history in the sport. Dominicali's not your typical F1 CEO in my opinion.

Just the way in which he's going about it feels like he's a little bit too honest with the media about how he's feeling where previously you wouldn't necessarily get little snippets out of the Formula One boss. You just very much had very, you know, on the fence. Don't say anything until the deal was over the line. Whereas Stefan Dominiccarly is like, I don't, you need to pay up. is basically what they're saying, right? Because Monaco...

Maybe. Perhaps. I don't think he's quite as old as what Bernie was when he went a little bit. Senile. But it is interesting because I think within that statement, it very much encapsulates if you're a Monaco who paid the least out of anyone to be on the calendar, you better start finding some money. I mean, I've seen how much it costs for a lasagna over there.

Like, they've got some cash. Like, you know what I mean? That's clearly what he's alluding to there. Yeah, and Monaco has had a free pass for a long time, essentially, that they get away with certain things. There was a rumor that Monaco also annoyed the F1 themselves because F1 have certain sponsors, and Monaco, as part of their deal, are allowed to put different sponsors around the track. And one of those sponsors was a rival to a big, I think it was Rolex. are obviously the Formula One's big partner.

And Monaco were like, we're going to sell part of the trek to Rolex's rival, which I imagine they weren't particularly happy about. And it's just things like that, that Monaco probably, yeah, doing a lot where Formula One aren't particularly going to be happy with them. And then, of course, a lot of people as well don't think that it's even suitable and should be on the calendar at all.

And you're not one of them, though, Tommy, are you? You love a bit of Monaco and it's got a lot of history, got a lot of, you know, walls. Last year wasn't too bad though, right? It was something. Just need a rainstorm every race, every like Monaco race. Yes. Yeah, for sure. We actually asked you on Instagram, what tracks do you think must be on the F1 calendar? The most like response was from Apt underscore 03 who said Monza, Interlagos, Silverstone, Spar, Suzuki and Monaco. Let's dissect that. Monza. Okay. I'm a big, you know, big Charle-le-Claire Ferrari fan. As a track, is it actually that good? I'm just throwing that out there.

I don't think characteristic-wise, Monsa's actually that good, especially when the cars maybe struggle for slipstream in years gone by and they actually have struggled to overtake. You know, that one thing about Monser is a slipstream fest. I think for new Formula One, fans to understand that of all the tracks. If you looked at a Formula One second on paper a moment, what's the best track for overtaking?

You'd point Monter out, wouldn't you? But it's not. It's just not. No, because I think a lot of the cars reach pretty much top speed anyway because they run such skinny wings. DRS is actually less impactful. And then we got into Lagos, absolutely. That needs to be signed still delivered until 3,000,

the year 3000, busted. I don't know why I said it like that. God, I'm really sure on my age now. not I? Silverstone, absolutely. I remember a few years ago, maybe, was it about 2016, 2017 when there was a chance that it was getting binned off and it seems like it's now pretty set in stone. There's been quite a bit of investment as in there and stuff. Although, well, I say I'm surprised. It did recently surface. The London Grand Prix story always makes a little appearance every time there's a bit of a slow news day. So the London Grand Prix,

Yeah, I'm surprised. So we'll be releasing London Grand Prix video next week when there's nothing to talk about. Then SPAR, yes, I think it still absolutely belongs to be on the calendar. Although that is one of those tracks that's really struggling to stay on. It seems like they're scraping by year on year. It's mad because it sells out. It's really popular. I know they had the...

What are they spending their money on? Where's the money going? Yeah, they must sell a lot of chips and mayo. Maybe too much... They're putting too much mayonnaise. on the chips and they're going bankrupt. That's what it is. Okay.

The spa organizer is ferociously writing down these notes, Tommy. Then you've got Suzuki, absolutely. You know, one of the best tracks ever. And then Monaco, we'll ignore that one. The second most popular comment was from Nicolietana, who says, as much as Monaco is a historic track, it's just bad as Frank enters the room. If you are watching on video.

What does Frank think of Monaco? He loves it, I'm sure. Propaganda. No. Monaco. I've brainwashed him. Looking at that whole list of like Monsa, Interlagos, Silverstone, Spars, Suzuki, Monaco, you'd argue that maybe only, dare I say, interlagos and Silverstone, have the races,

like consistently good quality races to back up their place because all those other tracks are legendary, amazing circuits. I want them to stay on the calendar. Do they produce the best races like Monza? Like you said, Spar. When was last time we had a Sparbanger? Suzuki was decent last time, but it was because of the weather again,

and obviously Monaco never has a particularly good race unless there's crazy weather and the cars that just seemed to be getting bigger and bigger and not suited. So they're actually, while we love those, circuits, I'd argue that maybe only into Lagos and Silverstone actually produce good racing now with modern Formula One cars, which is quite controversial opinion maybe, but I think it's a big

statement. I think if you actually take the heart away from it and use your head, I think it's hard to disagree that that's the case. And it's weird. Like, why does Spa not produce the racing? Because on paper, if this is what we're using now for this particular podcast, that phrase, is that the track looks mega. You know, it's 7.004 kilometers long.

It's the longest track on the calendar. It should, in theory, with the long straits and whatever, create great racing. But it just hasn't seemed to have delivered in recent years. That kind of leads me on because SPAR is struggling. What traditional tracks do we think will be dropped by 2030? Spa. I think, yeah, I was going to say, SPAR.

I think is going to go. soon there's talk of it fighting with kailami which we'll go into later about a place on the calendar um but they say spa is one of those circuits that has always struggled financially and pretty much since the kind of banning of tobacco sponsorship in that kind of mid 2000s era they've not really sort of is it one thing that's always mad to be in formula one is that Formula One is extortionate ticket prices. These circuits sell out. These are the circuits that is absolutely packed on,

not even just Friday, Thursday pit walks are like absolutely rammed. And then you hear that they're making losses every single year. It's absolutely insane to me. It's the Mayo. Yeah, it's the Mayo. Well, this is why traditional tracks that are struggling financially, you know take monza for example and what they did last year where they let in far too many people into that venue and caused one of the the worst experiences for a formula one fan attending a grand prix

and this is unfortunately what this kind of you know if they're not making any money and they're struggling to stay on they try different things to to make it work um it fits f1 agenda as well doesn't it that they're gonna if you can't handle it then we'll go somewhere else yeah we'll go to somewhere else where everyone has a great time and you know that while we love these traditional circuits the absolute horror stories you saw on TikTok and of people you know posting their experiences at the Grand Prix Formula One probably just be like well they can't handle it and it's unfortunate because they're traditional and amazing circuits that have been on the calendar for years and years some you know Monza Silverstone and Sparer Monaco for example have been on the calendar

since day one really. So yeah, it's a big shame, but I can't, I can't see Spa surviving forever, especially not till 2030. That's the one I'd say, I'd be not quite 100%, but I'd almost be like 90% convinced that Spa will not be on the calendar in 2030. And then the other one I'd say would probably be Monaco, because it seems like Monaco's place on the calendar there's this kind of unique race

if we go to a place like Las Vegas that offers all the same kind of glitz and glam and ridiculous ticket prices and that's the race where all the celebrities want to be there, but can produce, whether it produces decent racing, but I think even as the biggest Monaco fan,

any circuit will produce better racing because the fact of the matter is the cars aren't suited to it. Then Formula One will just go, well, Vegas is the new Monaco. Why do we need Monaco? And they're, yeah, probably make a lot more money from doing it in Las Vegas than in Monaco, especially as we just mentioned.

You know, Monaco is one of the lowest paying circuits to be on the calendar because of their heritage. I agree. I think that Monaco, with the way in which Formula One is going now, you know, we're hitting sprint races, left, right and center. They're going to increase that. They're very much going down the dopamine hits at all times during a Grand Prix. weekend and unfortunately monaco only has that on the in q3 it qualifying really in terms of um a proper

dopamine hit the rest of it is is like snooze fest if we let's be real here we're trying to yeah when you compare it to other tracks and also as well the fact is there are there are circuits queuing up to to come onto the calendar the formula one's never been in a better position for interest of other countries wanting to wanting to get involved and at that the end of the day, Formula One is a business, and we know that they are very happy to make money from different countries that are willing to pay a bucket load to be on the calendar. So they'll look at their financial statement and go, so Monaco creates the worst racing and they're paying the least.

Yeah, when you look at it like that, they've not got much hope, have they? It's sad because I think as soon as it goes, the haters or even just the more like, Monaco's rubbish, will actually realize, oh, actually that. I don't think they'll be crying. I won't cry that Monaco will leave the calendar, but I think there'll be that small part of me that will go, oh, that is a bit sad, actually, because there's so much history there.

And we've both watched Formula One for many, many years. But as a newer fan, maybe they won't mind as much because they haven't experienced as much of the history that went on there. Yeah. And I've always been blinded by the fact that the first Monaco race I watched was an absolute banger and it was carnage.

And in theory, Monaco should be that race where one little mistake costs you, which it does. But the problem is Formula One drivers are just too damn good now. And the cars are on rails. And there are the odd mistakes that get punished. But, um, Chalaclet. Yeah.

Max did it as well, didn't he in that year where he'd been to in FP3 and missed a good chance to win a race. So they do punish mistakes, but not quite. The very first race I watched at Monaco was 96, where only three cars finished. I remember thinking, oh, my God, this race is amazing. And then never again. But the problem is as well with Formula One in its current state is that there is so much thought around tire wear strategy and so on, that Monaco just breeds this ground of everyone waiting to the last minute to pit. It's a fuel saving kind of.

Yeah, just toodling around rather than if they were at 100% absolutely caning it round, there would be so many more mistakes and so much more drama, but we just don't see it. Well, like Alonzo, there's that graphic, isn't there? Where Alonzo, I mean, classic Alonzo was, he knew he wasn't going to catch the top six and was doing laps so much slower and he was, they were completely the opposite of the circuit. They just know that no one's going to overtake. And why would you pit? Because as soon as you pit, everyone else just pits and they're going to stay ahead.

So yeah, it's a tough one, but yeah, it's not looking good for Monaco, I'd say. But I do think that maybe an interlagos will survive. Silverstone, I think, will survive despite all this Monaco talk. Monza, maybe if it's not a Italian street circuit by then, and same with Suzuki. I think Suzuki will probably stay. Let's bring Imola into this, because of course, that's returned to the Calais. but I don't see it potentially staying. If we are going along this route of new circuits,

I can't imagine, I don't know the exact figure, but that Imala is paying one of the top dollar to be on the calendar. That could be another one under threat, because I can't believe it's back. I can't believe it's back. If you just said in 2019, that Imola would be back on the calendar as like,

not even just like the COVID calendar that we had, that it's now kind of stayed around, it's crazy. It just doesn't feel like it would be it's proper old school. I love it. I think it's a really cool, a really cool circuit.

But yeah, it is surprising. It's not really fitting with the newer circuits that we've seen, which seem to all be street tracks. I also want to throw into the mix, Catalonia,

I think it's gone by 2030. Alonzo will have retired unless signs is winning championships, will there be enough interest? Yeah, probably not. I think they might still have a Spanish Grand Prix, but I don't think it'll be in Catalonia because it's just not a track that anyone likes.

No, it's not for a cool country like Spain that has two amazing, like well, has many amazing cities, but you know, like Madrid and Barcelona are really exciting cities. And they're just not, yeah, there's talk of Madrid street circuit. But that is also opens up an interesting conversation of what, what circuits would be on the calendar based on certain drivers because obviously the Netherlands, we've said it so many times that Zandvort,

realistically, it's not a suitable circuit for modern Formula One. And it is there simply because Max Verstappen is in Formula One. And my word, like F1 is booming there. I mean, the amount of stuff I saw when I was over there on holiday recently is crazy. Like so many people in like Red Bull caps and Red Bull merchandise. It's just, it's like fever over there for,

for F1. It's massive. But if the Stappen retires, what would he just drop off? Hopefully it'll still be here in six years. I hope so. But he's obviously talking more about that he might retire early. And if he does,

does Zandvoort literally just like the year after they do maybe one more year without Max and then it just goes off the calendar. You'd like to not think so. But then I suppose you have to weigh up what Formula One will be like in 2030. Because right now we're in a boom. period, it's amazing. But if Verstappen wins the next five titles by a thousand points, is it still going to be booming?

I don't think so. And then it starts to tail off. So it'd be 20 races in the Netherlands. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, that is fascinating to think about. I'd like to hope for all the Dutch fans there that it wouldn't just disappear as soon as Max goes. But that is crazy to think that Max might retire by 2030, considering how young he is.

But he might have broken every record under the sun by then. so we will have to wait and see. So we went on Twitter and asked what new tracks you would like to see by 2030. Rayman here says, I would love to have a German Grand Prix again, especially with Audi entering the sports, and Merck essentially being a German manufacturer. It's interesting this one,

because I think Hockenheim actually came out and said that they would love to be back on the calendar, but they just can't afford it. And that's the problem with these circuits. I'd love to see Hockenheim back on there, Nürberg ring potentially, you know, when they used to swap between them each year,

and now that we just don't have a German Grand Prix, which is crazy to think that it doesn't exist on the calendar. But I would love to have it back. It makes sense, but they just have to find the money. But also the German, you know, Formula One is still really popular in Germany, but it's strange to me to think that we've only got one German driver on the grid right now, and it's Nika Holcomberg, who probably doesn't have many years left

and is not in a top team. I think back to, I think it was 2011. I remember there was a famous picture of them at the German Grand Prix and there was loads. I think it was Vettel, Rosberg, Michael Schumacher, Nick Heidfeld,

Timo Glock, Sertil. So yeah, over a quarter of the grid were German and now we've just got one who you could argue, is quite lucky to be on the like his career many thought was over anyway so he might have been in a situation where there was no German driver and you've got to think by 2030 I had a look before we did this podcast there's two German drivers in F3 non in F2 is they really well there'd be a load of Formula 1 fans in Germany screaming for a race are they going to sell out like a Zandvo

when they've got no one to root for and no one in the sport because they need, you know, they can't just sell out from the hardcore audience. They need some booming interest as well. And maybe it would take a bit more than Audi entering Formula One for there to be like a big boom in Germany again for there to be a race there. Hey, we are seven years away though.

That they could be in F12 right now, not that there is an F-12, but you know what I mean? There's a lot of years for, yeah, literally could be in carting right now. So, yes, but they're going to have to have some German talent by 2026, 2027, so it's starting to crop up on the radar if Germany potentially comes back onto the calendar. But I just don't see it happening, really, because it just seems like the money isn't there at the moment, which is crazy to think. Norton Harvey comes in with Kyle Army or Cape Town,

street circuit. Oh, another street circuit. Why don't you add another one in? Kyle Army, absolutely. I am all aboard that circuit being on the Formula One calendar. I think there's something going on around about now, sort of like, in recent times where Kyle Army is essentially being assessed as to whether or not they can actually host a Formula 1 Grand Prix.

Of course, they have to gain that Grade 1 circuit license, which I don't think they have right now, at least it hasn't been announced that they have the grade one license. That's essentially how it works. You have to have a grade one circuit license to allow Formula One to come to your venue. Grade two, it basically means you can host anyone but Formula One essentially. But it's an amazing circuit. If you haven't seen it, it is unbelievable. It's a really cool circuit.

It's been on the F1 calendar before, but they've modernized it a bit. Yeah, but I believe you're right. it is currently grade two, but they're trying to get it to grade one to toast. And I'd love to see it because Formula One, however much, it's easy to complain about, oh, there's too many races over here or over there, or loads in America or loads in the Middle East. It is a world championship. And I think there should be a race in Africa.

So this would be a great thing to, you know, have a continent like, like Phil, like another kind of race in a different continent. I'd much rather Kailami than a Cape Town Street Circuit. I think everyone would rather an actual proper purpose-built track. I don't know if I was a bit confusing there when I said that Kailami is a grade two, which means they can host anything but Formula One, not Grade 1. They need to get Grade 1. That's essentially what needs to happen.

Amman Birdie underscore comes in with more street tracks, including London. One more in the US too. Ideally, we'd want Turkey and Malaysia back, but sadly I don't see it happening. no street more no more street tracks please yeah i can't deal with it anymore this person's answered the question of what do you think i mean they've answered it correctly of going yeah yeah yeah what do you think because they're actually using their head and going i think it will be this more street tracks because there will probably be more in the u.s there'll be more street tracks and a lot of people including myself would like to see turkey and particularly Malaysia back but it's not going to

happen. I really don't think it's going to happen. And all my word, just I need Sapang back in my life in Formula One just to see it. Can we just have one more race? Just one last time. We didn't even know at the time. I don't think. I don't think it was built up as this big thing that like this is the last race. It just kind of happened. And such a good circuit. And it is one that's really suited to modern F1. I think it'd be amazing now with the new cars as well. And I just need to. I just need to happen. But everything you see from there, every time we mention it, we get people from, you know, Malaysia and that part of the world that say, guys, it's just not going to happen. I know it's great for us to say, well, they've got a circuit. Why can't they do it? But just the

situation over there, it's not going to happen, which is sad because I'd love to see it, but it's hard to disagree with this guy that street tracks is probably going to be the way that it's going to go. I hope not. Unless these street tracks are actually wide enough. But the problem is, I think the way in which Formula One is going is we're going to Las Vegas. We're going to these places that they're trying to fit a Formula One Grand Prix at a place rather than a country saying, oh, we'd love to host a Grand Prix, where would you want to go sort of thing. It's that formulae mentality, isn't it?

Yeah, it's fitting into a venue or an area. We need it to be. You know, rather than going, this place would be amazing. Oh, it needs to go here. And that is even the purpose built circuits like Abu Dhabi or even China. I do like China as a circuit. I know you do as well. But it has had its criticisms of the circuits are built around things.

It's got to incorporate certain things rather than actually just build a good circuit like Sapang. Just put Sapang, draw out the map, pave it somewhere else if we can't get into Sapang. If a country wants to bring a wheelbarrow of cash to the Formula One circus, just build Sapang or Turkey. Just one of those two. Malaysia sells Sapang to, you know, I'm sure a country in the Middle East would buy the Sapang International Circuit. Lift it up. You just get it on it, fly it over, and we'll just drop it in the desert. I will have a race there.

Oh, it's probably not even the most far-fetched idea either, is it really? And we just need Bernie's like sprinkler idea to have the monsoon season of Malaysia to like throw that into the mix. Look, P1, fixing F1, one step at a time. Yeah, that is a, that's a great idea. Love it. I guess this kind of poses the question that is Formula One going in the wrong direction now with the street tracks with, okay, the odd venue, as you say, the Abu Dhabis, the Chinas that were fitting into. something but if we do this every single time we go racing does formula one then just become this this parade this advertising show of landmarks around the world because surely that would then

affect the integrity of the sport yeah it's there to be a tour like a you know a tourist thing of like visit azabijan or visit you know abu dhabi or visit whoever rather than kind of Formula One, we'd love to have a Formula One race and it'd be really exciting. So the street circuit thing as well, we did a poll and oh my word,

F1 fans and don't want more street tracks. So 9% of you wanted more street tracks. That's Tommy and his burner accounts. 49% said keep it as it is and 42% want less street circuits. So actually that's not as aggressive as I thought it would be in terms of get rid of the ones we currently have.

But of course, that's more leaning towards the Baku's and the ones that actually have potential. I think if it was, do we want to see more circuits like Monaco on the calendar? I think that would be swayed a lot more into no. Yeah, fair. But, yeah, 9% saying they want more street tracks. How many do we have right now?

How many street tracks do we have right now? So let's start. Okay, so Bahrain, no. Saudi, yes, one. Australia's technically, well, so that's two. Azerbaijan, three, Miami. Four. I'd count that as a street track.

It kind of is. I don't know. Is it a street track? It goes past the NFL thing, doesn't it? It kind of feels like a street track. Four, Monaco, five, Spain, Canada. Canada is one. Canada is one.

Yeah, yeah. It doesn't feel like it. No. Hungary is not one, is it? British Grand Prix, no. Belgium. Dutch Grand Prix, Italy, Singapore, 7. Singapore next, yeah.

That's it. Vegas. Vegas, sorry, yeah, Vegas as well. Eight. And then it sounds like maybe Qatar eventually will become a street track. And there's also talk of Saudi, maybe even wanting another track, that they're building a purpose built. circuit in Saudi.

So yeah, there's going to be a lot the Madrid, the talk of Madrid, potentially wanting to host a race. So I had someone mention, and this is totally wild to think that this never happened because it was on the F1 game, but Vietnam never happened.

They had the circuit ready to go. Yeah, it was at Hanoi. Hanoy, yeah. And it's, you know, saw a lot of people saying, oh, that was actually quite fun on the F1 game. So weird to think

that a circuit was built ready to go and then when the kind of now we're kind of going back to other circuits now COVID has calmed down to a point it's not it's not come back just

what is it doing? What is it? As it just turned into a car park like what's gone on? Right. What a strange amount of investment. Get Sopang! Dig it up. Place it off time. No, but they have a circuit, Tommy. They have a circuit, ready to go. I'd love to know what's actually going on with that.

We might have to check that out and see... That's going to be our answer to everything when it's like, spar under threat, get Sir Pang, dig it up, place it in Belgium. I don't think they have the money spa to do that. No, Belgium, sorry, to do that. Less Mayo. God, you really are learning a lot here with P1 with Matt and Tommy, aren't you, everyone? I hope you have enjoyed it.

Before we go, let's make a brief. prediction on the number of races we think will be on the calendar in 2030. 28. Really? Yeah, I reckon. Oh, yeah, that's a really good shout. I'm going to say 26. I feel like there will be a point where the F1 drivers go no.

No more F1. And I could genuinely see them taking a stand against it. If the A and F1 announced 35 race season for the F1. or 2030 and they'll just be, no, that's too much. I think of all the people, I reckon it would be Max just happen to do it as well. And I think that would be such a... He's the champion.

That would be such a like big statement for, yeah, if he was the reigning champion and who knows how many titles he'll have by then, that he goes, nah, not doing 28 races and 16 of them are sprangy. or whatever by imagine like the shockwave through F1 that that would that would create be massive. I could see that happening though. I could genuinely see that being the way goes down. And I think people, drivers say they will boycott.

I think it would be easier to, it's easier to say it than do it. You know, we've seen it before at circuits where they've kind of said, oh, just boycott the race then. But you kind of, you know, it's their livelihoods and they're there to race. so it's difficult. But yeah, I could see 20, 27, 28, which should be insane. It would be unbelievable. Let's know on social media or in the comment section below.

How many you think there will be in 2030? And if there's one particular prediction you have of a crazy circuit that will join or be kicked off the calendar, Tommy, final thoughts? My final thoughts are I can't stop seeing 2030 and thinking, that I will be 40 years old, which is a very scary prospect. I will be in my 40s. Oh my God.

Yeah, but Tommy, you look 12, so it's fine. It doesn't matter how old you actually are. I think you are defying the universe and how aging works. So how old will I be? In seven years' time, I will be 37.

So, yeah, there you go. But you'll be 40. God, will we still be doing P1 with Matt and Tommy then? Hopefully, hopefully you'll all be here still as well. We'll be there, enjoying. the Sepang International Circuit in Belgium with our chips with less mayonnaise on. To be fair, I'll be P1 with Matt, Tommy and Grace at that point

because it'll be eight, aren't she? She'll have no wheel, yeah. She'll bring some sensible opinion to the podcast. Absolutely. Well, thank you everybody for watching and listening. This P1 with Matt and Tommy podcast on the 2030 race calendar. We'll see you very soon for another piece of content whilst we wait for Formula One to come back.

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