Pablo Torre Finds Out - Perhaps Our Last Hour on Earth, with Katie Nolan and Michael Cruz Kayne

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

Civilization had a pretty good run. Will the astronauts be the last ones living? Will Jordon Hudson sue Pablo and/or beat him in a foot race? Could Sam Altman be bigger than Madoff and/or complete our curse on A.I.? And is your fiancé in the Epstein files? WHO KNOWS? But we f'd around and took your questions, live. So, come with us if you want to live. So mote it be.• Vote for PTFO at The Webby Awards: Best Sports Podcast + Experimental & Innovation• Subscribe to "Casuals with Katie Nolan"• Watch Michael Cruz Kayne's special, "Sorry for Your Loss" — now streaming on Dropout TV • Further reading: "Sam Altman May Control Our Future — Can He Be Trusted?" (Ronan Farrow & Andrew Maran Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Bob LaToree finds out. I am Pablo Torre. And today we're going to find out what this sound is. So that was, that was, I think, justified. Hilarious. One of my favorite bits of humor is the end of the world. You know what I mean? That was the big open you were talking about?

It's nice to see you all in this time and place. Can I acknowledge that we were told not to talk right before this. So I had kind of the giddy vibe of a surprise party. Right. And then you, she's here, she's here. And then it was that. Yeah. So I was like getting ready to giggle and then it was that.

Surprise, big bomb sounds. So. I think this might, this might be the last thing we do together. Okay. On this plane. Yeah. But I'll see you in another life, brother. I'll find you guys in every life.

I'll find you in every life. I will. Should we just acknowledge the, by the way, Michael Cruz K and Katie Nolan, thank you for being here. Yeah. Are we live somewhere? Yeah, I think we are live. Cortez is monitoring the chat. Perakee Cortez.

What's up, chat? Update us. hamburgers in the chat, we can play directly to goose the engagement to get this thing. Boost it in the algorithm. Booster burgers in the chat. I'm not going to participate in any of that part of it. I'm only, I'm that part only.

I'm only responding to chat. No, I like responding to chat. Oh. Telling them to put hamburgers in the chat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what that is. I was convinced to not do the thing I wanted to do with you guys, which is a big investigative scheme of sorts. We're going to table that for the time being.

Okay. because we've been told over and over again on this show that we want to activate the F, the F-F-S-R-Round option, Pablo Torre F-S-A-Round. Yeah, yeah. And it happens to be that we chose that option on the day when the president did truth this. Uh-huh.

So I just want to acknowledge that in some ways, this is the worst timing for your friendly neighborhood podcast host. Who wants to read this just to bring the audio audience in when this makes sense. it to the Apple Podcasts app if, again, we don't do the thing that the first part of the sentence says. A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have complete and total regime change, where different smarter and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily

wonderful can happen. Who knows? We will find out tonight, one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world. 47 years of extortion, corruption, and death will finally end. God bless the great people of Iran. That's my fucking dog, dude. I love that guy. He rules. I don't know.

I feel like we've done a good job of going about our days through a lot of stuff recently. We had a pretty good run despite everything. But today I do think I reached my breaking point. Today, I think when I woke up and I got that push notification of our president logged on to a social media network that only he uses, I think, and said and started a truth with a sentence of a civilization will end tonight. Made me like, I'm like sick. What is going on and is somebody going to stop it? Like, what are we? What are, I feel like crushed under the way.

of like, we got to do something. But I don't know what it is. I don't know understand how we're here. So we're not going to spend all of our time talking about this because I don't want to spend our last hour on earth talking about how we need to impeach the president. I do think we should probably impeach this guy.

The only thing I want to say about it again. The part of that tweet or whatever you call it that I really am fixated on is all caps, who knows. Who knows? Who knows? And I don't want that. Yeah. I don't want that.

But it could happen. It's like, this is insane. It is. It is. It's the thing of like I wanted to zag. And then it was like, I just want the documentary that someone is making about this to not have any ability to avoid the fact that we did acknowledge that we should probably get rid of this guy. Is he talking about someone making a documentary about this podcast? Oh yeah, there's a documentarian over there.

About this? What's happening right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoa. It's also titled The Last Dance. There are four astronauts, by the way, on this moon mission. Yeah. It's cool that they're going to be the only people left living.

They could come back like Planet of the Ape style, like come back to this planet. They better be ready to repopulate. It's all whatever. And they're like, when we get back to our home planet, then they realize, oh, this is your home planet. Just like in Twilight Zone. Okay. If you say so. But I would love to be, now would be the time of any time to be an astronaut.

Now would be the time, because at least you're out there. Yeah. And yes, you are, you know, your toilet don't work. They fixed it. They fixed it. They fixed it. It was just for the first few hours, which you would hope they went before they left. You would hope they were like, hey, before we hop in the thing to go around the moon, everybody pee, you know?

And so hopefully they didn't, it wasn't an emergency. They were instructed to pee in bags, which does seem easier for one of the types of astronauts and less easy for the others. But maybe they have, they must have, by this point, they must have a bag that's a unisex bag. Or maybe not, maybe two different bags that work equally well for each. There's a mechanism you can purchase as a woman to pee outside. Like a little water slide. It's almost like a, it's like a cup, but with a... It's like a wizinator, but for girls.

What the hell's that? What's a wizzenator? You guys don't know what the wizzenator is? Sound off in the chat if you know what a wizzenator is. Hey, Chad. What's a wizinator? The Wizzinator is a device that you can purchase. Okay. That was used, I believe, and because we're alive, I got to Google the athlete's name who I believe

have you used it. No. It is, in fact, yes, former Minnesota Vikings running back, Ontario Smith, who was caught in 2005 at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport with the original Wisenator. It's a prosthetic device designed to bypass drug tests. Oh, okay. That's the part I was missing. I was like, what are we talking?

I thought it was a little pee-lege. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a fake penis, a bladder, and synthetic urine. No, that's not what I was talking about, but I would like to use that. It's, it's, I mean, I'll show it to you. We can't. No, thanks. That's fine.

You don't have to. So let's get into it. I wish I sent this. Oh, look, hold on. The Wizznator 5,000 comes in natural life-like skin tones. Black, brown, Latino, tan, and white. Yo, they named him that. That doesn't sound right.

They didn't just come up with like a better shade range than most makeup that comes out now. So that's good at least. Inclusive at least. Donatello or Raphael. So that is not what they used. I am being told in my ear. The chat is saying, did Jordan Hudson ever, get around to suing any of the people in that studio.

She doesn't, she hasn't even addressed me. I don't think she's ever talked to either of us. All her animosity, I believe, is pointed toward our friend Pablo. Which I do appreciate. Thank you, Queen. Yeah, she's correct about that. Right. We didn't do nothing.

We're just here to. I'm just here to go, oh my God. Wow. Is that right? Are you kidding? Wow. That's what people say on the street. Are you the guy who said, oh, my God?

Did you ever get sued by Jordan Hudson? Not yet. Although, again, time, if she's watching, Time is money. Yes. I maintain that she would be an excellent guest on this show and would be treated with the utmost respect if she were ever to participate in it. I agree. I sincerely agree and I'd like to look into the camera.

Can we pull me? Yep, there it is. Jeez, calling for his own camera. Jordan Hudson, you're officially invited back on to the show. She knows that. I think she knows that. I don't think she's like, I don't think he'd have me. Did you know that in the 160 years after the Civil War, U.S. presidents fired 11, 4 and 5 star,

military officers. And in this first 14 months of Donald Trump, the White House has fired nine of them. So the 11 includes the nine? Or it's 11 and then nine more? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The second one. Oh, this is a good, this is a good fact-checking question. We'll find out. Someone will know. Someone in the room will know. In the chat, can the chat fact-check whether Donald Trump fired nine of the 11, four and five-star military officers in the 160 years after the Civil War? Or if that number of 11 is non-inclusive of his personal. Because it's either like 45% of people or it's like 90% of people, which either way, it's still a lot of the people. But I think the, I was talking about this today with someone, that guy lives in such like a bespoke reality where like we, you know, the siloing of everybody, all of our social media, et cetera.

Like he's getting reports that are only the things that people think he wants to hear as opposed to every prior president who was getting what someone thought was the news. The important thing. He's getting like whatever. So he's doing the right thing as far as he knows. This reminds me of yet another viewer question that we got recently. Okay. We throw that on the screen. How would you rate the crowdwork on At Cruise Kane's new stand-up special, scale of one to ten?

This reminded me. I was thinking about this same question. Now, you did a little crowdwork. A tiny bit. But it wasn't a lot. No, I think, well, I think what this person is referring to is a bit, very early on the show where I say I'm going, where I ask

someone of the audience. I think this was a very significant piece of the show. I asked, I asked someone in the audience what their name is. And at this point do we have the clip? Okay, that's a little heavy. Let me lighten it up with some classic comedy stuff like

you sir, what's your name? Pablo. Pablo, very good. That is my crowd work. So that part is kind of closed. I forgot about that. You didn't. You just played the clip where he says your name.

It's absurd the way you feed into what everybody thinks you are. I think I nailed it. It's fucking crazy. I think I nailed that the setup as well as the dismount. It's crazy. I will also say that I did not, I swear to God, did not mean to call on you. What happened there is, I looked at the first row, and the first person I saw was my neighbor. We were way too close.

We were way too close to you. And then so I just went to the next row and I was like, well, I can't be searching for who to do this with. So then I just went to you and boom, there you are. Katie and I were sitting next to each other. Now there's evidence of that. And I, people in the chat are also saying that, uh... You have access to the chat? Well, Cortez is sending me what people are saying.

I like Donald Trump, I'm getting a selected version of... Send me the chat, Cortez. Of the reality that we inhabit. Write the chat on giant cue cards and press them up against the glass over there. People are saying that Katie's eye contact was not exactly that of someone who was engaged. If you listened to the episode that we did without you on, my podcast, which I've since found out you didn't even care to listen. Didn't even know if you had a podcast.

That is non-canonical. Even though he commented like probably hard hands or something on the Instagram. I think he did actually. It's exactly hard hands. Didn't even click play. I'm over here doing my makeup and streaming your show. That was my intern. And you're just like, good job, everybody.

But anyway, I had, I was looking at the one of the promo clips that you posted on Instagram and in the promo clip it cuts to an audience reaction shot. And Pablo's like looking up and smiling. and I'm like looking into middle distance. And my first reaction was, am I on my phone? And then my immediate second reaction was, we were so close to you. And you had called on him early

and that there's no chance I would have pulled my phone out. Not because I'm a good person, but because I would have gotten caught and made fun for it endlessly. So then I was like, why would I have been looking? And my best explanation was that now that I go with Dan to his shows a lot and I'm in the back listening to the comedy Sometimes I just like zone out.

Not like looking up at you. You weren't doing a lot of physical stuff. Not a lot of gymnastics in the set. Okay. And so I think I was probably just like staring into space and listening, which I'm sorry. I checked my phone during your special. I don't know. You don't have to apologize to me.

There's nothing to me more plausible then. I was so locked in that I was looking down the floor. And Pablo was locked in to the camera. I was so into what you were saying that I looked directly away from it. It was just, nothing could be more plausible to me. me. How was the reaction to the special? Do you get all the, all the flowers and praise that you wanted? Honestly, the community of people that surround Dropout, which is the company that produced this, is so, like, unbelievably supportive and positive. They seem that way, so it's nice to hear. The only negativity in there at all is...

From Katie's eye content. No, none, is that in the thread of one of the clips that Dropout posted, people are having a robust argument about veganism and they're really kind of going at each. When something just kind of takes over a clip of yours, but the notifications stay the same. So you just watch people having an intense debate that has genuinely nothing to do with the original. Every two minutes, I get an update about factory farming in a thing that is not really about that at all. At all. By contrast, what the PtFO community has asked us to look into, do we have that next one here? Oh, no. What?

You could break it to Katie that Dan is parentheses technically in the Epstein files. And I assume we're talking about Lebitard. we are not okay what's up uh what's going on what is what's happening is it that somebody was wasn't there a thing where they were looking at shows comedy shows or something let's let the evidence decide it's not this is bullshit what you're doing yeah uh okay so it's Jeffrey Epstein to from we don't know but it's two Jeffrey Epstein it says this forward comedy seller david tell comedy underground life shout out David tell uh this place is great you'd love it with a smiley face and it's the comedy seller lineup, I assume, for that night.

And I bet in there somewhere is Dan's name. Are we going to scroll down and see Dan's name? I don't think so. I think they're going to attempt to scroll to others. Oh, here we go. Whoa. Damn. There he is.

Damn. What does it feel like to be engaged to someone who may have made Jeffrey Epstein laugh uproariously? It's tough. It's a tough. It's a tough. It's a tough thought, you know, but I do think Dan really likes to make anybody laugh.

And unfortunately... Speaking on behalf of Dan. Yeah, if I may. Dan said that he values all of his feelings. fans, especially Jeffrey Epstein. All fans matter. That's right. That's exactly what he said. Quote him on that. Dan Soder, all fans matter, especially Jeffrey Epstein. Did you guys see in the Epstein files where they talk about the Black Eyed Peas?

I didn't look at these things at all. I know what's in them. I don't know. I don't need to see it. I don't know. Are we all digging through them? I was thinking of a friend who is. One of the black eyed peas? I wish. Oh my God. Apple. Is it Apple. Ah, nobody knows him. That's my mind. He's the Filipino one. What are you nuts? Of course.

He's the most known one. Who are the other ones? How do you even say Apple da app? Yes, Apple D. I believe it's Apple Dap. Pronounces almost as if there's an apostrophe. And then Will I am. And then Fergie, who are we missing?

Oh, the Matrix guy. Yeah. Might be Matrix Guy. It's like, it's his name. It's like, hmm, hmm. That's the way. That's the syllables of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Short syllable letter. Taboo. Taboo. Couldn't have been more wrong. Matrix guy. But they talk about the black eyed peas. Okay, what I was I say is that I have a friend who, who is reading the files

just like leisurely. I have nothing to do the next few hours I'm going to just dive in and read the files so if I see her I'll be like what you do today

and she'll be like I went for a walk the files for a couple hours went to the gym that kind of thing and she drew my attention to the fact that the black eyed peas

someone is really trying to get Galane Maxwell to listen to the black eyed peas and that's just kind of a fun thing that happens just a fun wrinkle some things in the obscene files are like kind of

sure and I and I would be more inclined to be interested in them if the rest of it didn't make me want to. And absolutely fair. I think that is totally fair. You know, so I'm doing my best to avoid all stuff that makes me want to. Because it's a lot, I have, it's a tough time to be depressed, you guys. Is it?

It's just not, like, it's not chill right now. It's not looking out of the world and going like, it's going to be okay. I feel, I guess it's probably worse. Everything feels really heavy and shi. I think it's fair to say also that like, as the Epstein files are concerned, just being in them is not proof of anything. Sometimes people are just in it because they got recommended because Jeffrey Epstein has friends that are saying like, oh, you should look at this cool thing. Yeah.

Yeah. Why are you in there too? Yeah, of course. There he is. Isolation play. It isn't Kobe's taunts or humiliating viral videos that have made this the toughest year of Jeremy Lynn's life. Do you remember writing that? So this is allegedly, this is like a roundup of, this is a flipboard email that Jeffrey Epstein.

Remember that? board. Yeah. I wrote an article about Jeremy Lynn. My man. I'm going to say about Jeffrey. I was going to say about Jeffrey. About Jeremy Lynn. And what seems to be completely innocent, like just email, is admittedly undercut by the fact that it's above eight perfect getaways with outdoor showers.

So wait, what am I looking? This is in the files? Someone in Jeffrey Epstein's circle. I think his flipboard account got me, my writing in this. I see. writing in there. Fun. Did it get the fact that I on Facebook have DMed Jeremy Lynn probably 400 times?

I haven't in the last few years, but he used to post Facebook stories. He doesn't anymore. But when he posted Facebook stories, I respond to the stories being like, go get him, man. You know what I mean? Just stuff like that. On purpose? You're doing it. Oh.

No, just little positive affirmations for my boy, Jeremy. Ever hit with the hard hands? Yeah, he never hit me with anything. No response ever And, you know, more prior to him. I wouldn't have either if I were him. But I was just trying, you know, hey man. You're out there.

You're out there in China. You're doing it. As a lady who's been on the receiving end of those when you post a story, one person responds all the time with little messages. Yeah. That's like such a nicer version of it. Okay. It's less scary.

It's nice to know what happens to other people too. But just to confirm, you are reading all the things. No, not anymore. No. Not anymore. I'm not allowed to. I got to read books instead. I got to trying to stay off this thing.

It's in her lap. The phone that has the article about Sam Altman on it. Yeah. And I thought I got really deep into that article. Well, we have another question. We have another question. Okay. Oh.

Oh, here we go. Thoughts on Sam Altman, more to possibly find out question mark. I do think that if you haven't read the giant New Yorker article that is co-written by Ronan Farrow. I've read 40,000 words of it, which I think is 4%. I thought was more than enough. And then I found out it's, there's a lot more. Yeah. We've talked about this.

I think on this podcast before. but when you're scrolling in the little cursor, you go like this. Yeah. The little cursor goes, you're like, I'm not going to get to the end of this. I don't think. I'm going to try. And so much has happened in the little words I've read. It's like, well, I must be towards the end of this article.

And it's like, you, girl, you haven't even started scratching the surface. Yeah. The quote that I think we can just like pull out for everybody to just like not read it but get the sense of is, quote, I think there's a small but real chance. He's eventually remembered as a Bernie Madoff or Sam Bankman-Fried level scammer. End quote. Yeah, I was focused in on that, the quote about him being a sociopath. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I think if it's Bernie Madoff, it's going to be like Bernie Madoff for the whole economy.

Yeah, because he really did. Yeah. It's bigger than that. Which brings up, I think, our, this is a thing that I think we have some culpability for. Me? Yes. Oh. Well, me and you and not Katie.

Oh. Hell yeah. What the heck. Love the way this sounds. More of this. So, on Halloween. people who are in the chat may remember this. I see where we're going.

Throw burgers in the chat because Michael Cruz Kane was dressed as a burger. We invited a literal witch to the studio and I was dressed as a tree, I think. Remember the witch's name? The award-winning witch.

Oh, man. I wish that I did, but I don't. Lexa Rosette. Oh, of course. Village voice. I liked her very much. Award-winning witch. Michael had to suggest

and we decided not to curse a specific person, but rather an entire technology. So with this dramatic music playing underneath us in our post-production edit, it will be there. What do we need to do? Oh, goddess, Fortuna, we ask you to protect the fate of mankind

and to turn the fortune of AI cause it to slip up and fail so that it cannot harm humanity. So mode it be. So mode it be. So mode it be. Do you guys want to add any words to that? May humans masturbate the old-fashioned way. Amen.

And that's beautiful. That is beautiful. So-mote-be. And, you know, may humans reign over technology. and not the reverse. So mooted B. And what are we saying there? So mode it be?

I believe it's moat and I have no answers for you on that. So moat it be? I'm just saying whatever that gal said, I'm going, that must be right. So moat it be. Can I also something else about that episode that I may have never talked to you about. At the end of that episode, that which, not derogatory, not actually complimentary. Lexa, Rosie Ann. told us a very specific way to dispose of the shit that she gave us.

So we had created a beautiful list of ingredients, which is brew of sorts. Yeah. And she said, this has to be disposive. I think like at the base of a tree. And I'm leaving the studio. And these guys are like, let's just pour it in the, I'm like, no, no, no, no. No. So I ultimately did not see what happened to that stuff.

But if anything goes bad with this AI, I think it's totally possible. One of these dudes just threw it on a toilet or something. You know what I mean? Like Ryan Cortez. Why didn't you take it down to a tree yourself then? You were leaving the building. I don't want to be. I didn't want it.

You're already too late for that. I'm not the one. So moat it be. So moat it be. You got to take the stuff outside. It had already. It had been. The moat had been already.

You guys are reckless ones on here. I'm just saying that. We're going to remember. We're doing an investment. Pablo will find out about that. I think it's working. Could be. Or the opposite. It is hard to tell whether AI is being undermined by our spell or is taking over everything and in fact is succeeding.

What sucks about all of this all the time now is that it's either the biggest deal on earth or a bunch of nothing. Everything now is either like, wow, the president either just said he's going to basically nuke a country or he's just talking and nothing's going to happen and it's just to manipulate the markets or it's like the entire economy is wrapped up. an AI. AI is coming. It's going to take all your jobs. Or we don't actually have the tech and they're scrambling to keep. Everything is like, I just feel like so quickly, we knew what stuff was and we knew like that is that and that's a, this is a table and it will always be a table. And I just feel like now everything is a question mark, which makes it harder to have any linear thoughts because you're like they can't, you can't build anything on. You're both looking to me like, I'm no, no, I'm with that totally. Okay. The way that I feel, the way, no, I'm with. I'm with.

Okay, it's okay. It's okay. I'm just a tough day. So mod it be. So mode it be. So mode it's. The way I feel in that is I was reading an article about a woman in Tehran who's talking about like, you know, how scared she is. And she's like, I think Donald Trump has lost his mind. And they were basically asking her, what are you going to do?

Like you're going to move out of Tehran and where, like, where will you go? And she's like, eh, I mean, what am I going to do? I'm just kind of here. Here's where I live. There's not really a place to go that feels safer than this. So this is where I'm going to be at. And that's kind of my mind. perhaps non-productively is like, well, this is the world that I got.

No, I mean, I have been trying to make my world small, but that it just feels very selfish and it's also not good podcast discussion. But it's been like if this is, if this is how it's going to be here outside, then like when I'm inside with my dog and Dan, we just like do a lot of like, I don't know, telling each other that we love each other and like hanging out with our dog and like smiling and making each other laugh. Doing puzzles. Doing puzzles. I gave you a puzzle. Can I read you guys another. quote from the Sam Altman story. Please, sir. Because I think the whole thing of it's either the biggest thing or it's also maybe nothing.

Yeah. It brings us to a part of that piece, which is specifically resonant to viewers of this program, perhaps people who've been watching and listening since November of 2023, when we brought up something that I will quote this article in discussing. Quote, it was announced that Altman had joined the advisory board for Neum. Oh boy. A city of the future that Mohammed bin Salman hoped to build in the desert. Sam, you cannot be on this board.

The policy director who now works at Anthropic recalled telling Altman and was on to say that basically he was unconcerned with the moral consequences, mostly about whether he could get away with this stuff, allegedly. Neom, a city of the future. Katie, do you have any brief way of explaining what Neum is? was supposed to be supposed to be Okay so when I brought it to you It's because I had seen a commercial for it Or something

Yes there were commercials all the time It was promised as this city In the desert In Saudi Arabia I believe Were you over there when you saw the commercials Or where were you? Why would I have been over there? I don't know

The comedy festival Maybe No No No the It was here It was during A sporting event

Which is why I brought it to Pablo because I was like, they advertise during sports. I do this to him a lot. I keep sending him, he gets us. I'm like, figure out who runs this. I don't know what this is. I want to know. But the Neon was like it's supposed to be like a high-tech city.

One of the aspects of it was something called the line, which was going to be this big, long, I don't remember how many miles, a city that had like, you know, again, the outside visual of it, it just looked like a wall, but inside it was this, obviously not real, but it was like a sprawling ecosystem with greens and a high-speed train that would run from one end to another. You would live there and go down to the train,

and then you'd go to your job. It was a self-sustaining city in the middle of a desert. In fact, I just need to clarify, Katie in no way, Michael, is exaggerating because it was advertised as this. What is Neon? This is Neon. Or here, to be more precise, in the Northwest. of Saudi Arabia. But Neum is more than a place. It's a home for people who dream big.

Bigger than that. That's more like it. It'll be a hub for innovation, an entirely new model for sustainable living. The vision for a new future. In fact, that's how it got its name. But what will be there? There's Oxagon, a thriving city at the crossroads of the world, where advanced manufacturing will enable industries of the future. Trojanah, a year-round mountain destination. Just remember to pack your skis when you visit. Or a skiing is not your thing. There's always Sindala, one of Neum's many beautiful islands.

Perfect for some R&R. And a line. A 500 meter high, 200 meter wide, 170-kilometer-long city in the shape of, well, a line. No roads, cars, or emissions. And everything its 9 million residents could ever need within a 5.5. than it walked. No, regular stuff. I mean, that's like post-apocalyptic is what it feels like.

It was sold as an investment in a different type of energy. I think it was something like they had noticed that obviously most of their wealth came from an unsustainable type of energy. And so at some point, they're going to have to take a step towards the future to coming up with other sorts of renewable energy sources. That's how it was sold. At this point. Yes, at this point. They've abandoned all. They actually, remember they said there was going to be a bunch of, like, world sporting events, not big ones like the Olympics or anything, but like maybe like a beach soccer tournament or something.

They had given it to that fake city that wasn't even built yet. They were like, yeah, they're going to have the 2032 or something crazy. At this point, I think it might just be a data center. Yeah. So according to the Financial Times, this very ambitious project, this was one of the crown jewels of the crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman. It, yeah, has been significantly downscaled and it is likely to be converted into a hub for data centers. Hell yeah. Woo!

Dude, a tightening liquidity after a decade of massive spending and subdued oil prices, which are definitely going to get better on account of us. Again, just to quote, the earlier president, yeah, the whole civilization dying tonight, never to be brought back again, possibly. So wait, was it understood that the money from Open AI would help to fund this? So there was just kind of like a... Yeah, what was it go over that relationship for us again? It was that he would be on the advisory board. And what is that? What is that ever?

You are asking questions that I don't think Sam Altman himself necessarily asked as rigorously. The blip over there at OpenAI is what they call it, right? When Sam Altman was removed because the board members decided that originally they had said that somebody of like high moral standing would have to be in charge of what they're building. Because listen, if you're going to build something ambitious, like AI is supposed to be, it's intelligence that will exceed human capabilities, it has to be in the hands of somebody who can be trusted with that sort of tech. And so I think what I remember hearing is that the board agreed that he was not that guy, that he started to show signs of being concerning.

He would lie a lot. He was characterized as both this very special combination of people, please, but guy who was lying all the time. Right. And so it was a, which you know, they're not always mutually exclusive. And so it was like a, so they removed him. And then through some miraculous power play, he makes his way back in. Not only that removes the people from the board who had been initially started the moving of him. And so then he's just, you know, back.

Because it seems like what, there was no catastrophic event that preceded him being removed. No, it was just them going. this guy seems kind of fucked up. We have always said that if it's a guy who seems kind of fucked up, we should get him out and put somebody else in. Then they took action towards doing that. And then because of the effect on like markets and business going like, well, if Sam's not in charge, we don't want to be in charge.

And then he got everybody to sign that thing that said they wanted him in charge. And then he comes back in charge and immediately goes, well, I don't want to be in charge if these people who tried to oust me are here. Which I guess kind of makes sense. I guess. But it's also like at what point do you go, yeah, well, that was their chance to take out the guy that wasn't right to hold the button, and now he's going to hold the button as tight as humanly possible.

I just, I don't know. I guess I just wished that if these evil people were going to be in charge of all this important tech, they'd at least be cool and have good taste. And they all just seem to be damp and weird. It's not going to happen for you, bro. It's not going to work out that way. None of them are ever like, whoa, at least he's cool. But I don't, I guess I just don't believe that it's going to work.

I don't believe in AI. I don't think, like, I think some, it will make some things incrementally. more efficient and better in some ways. But most things, I think it's like souped up Google and that's really kind of it. But then if that's the case, then our economy's going to crush. Yeah, yeah. That's what I think is going to happen. So either way, where fucked?

That's my favorite part. That's what I think is cool. I think coding has already been basically fundamentally replaced by AI in many key aspects. But the whole promise of what it is, it's in some ways the best advertising is the apocalypse because it's so impactful that it will create potentially the apocalypse. and what if, in fact, reality is that, oh, no, it's just underwhelming. But another problem, even with coding, I know you're trying to move on. Even with coding.

I sense that you want to not talk about this. Even with coding, like, someone's going to have to be, have accountability for when the AI f***es up the code, you know what I mean? Which it will do. It's going to make a mistake. And so. What makes you think that somebody will have to be accountable? Well, just like, who are you going to blame?

When it does the, when the hospital's all, fucking the power goes out at all the hospitals because we, you know, we let. Immigrants, I would guess is who they'll blame. If I had to make an educated guess, it would be immigrants. You might be right. But it feels like at some point there's going to be a human that is going to take all the shit for that. And it's almost. It's going to be a while before it's the guy at the top.

It's going to be like some dude in the middle who's like, you're the A.I. You're the overseer. And now that AI is doing coding for 7,000 projects that used to be done by 7,000 people, you're the one guy who has to oversee all 7,000 of those projects. And you can't do it. It's not possible. As always, I want to reiterate that our house theory, our house clubhouse leading theory, is that AI is in fact 60 Filipino guys. Yeah.

I love it. And to those guys, Salaman. Yes. By the way, I was late in getting to this, but someone in the chat said, quote, my uncle had a Wizinator that he would share and had makeup to alter it. Wait, in case what? Oh, because he would share it. Yeah. Yo, what?

So what? Hey, Doug, can I borrow your Wizzinator? That's going to be a no. By your own. We do have to get, though, to the aforementioned protagonist, arguably, of the shows we do together. Do we have the latest from Jordan Hudson? No, what? Really?

We have to. Oh, no. Who would win a foot race, Pablo or Jordan. Well, I've never seen her in a flat shoe, I don't think. Yeah, but she's an athlete. No offense to my friend. But she's done like a bunch of flips and shit. I know she could do that.

Yeah, but his cab. are... But that's genetic. It could be... There might be any muscle in there. Sometimes the Filipino just had these secretly thick-ass calves. You're like, what is that good for?

And the answer is, sometimes nothing. Did you see UNC basically did it again, by the way? They hired their basketball coach, and it's a coach with pro-experience and not a lot of... Michael Malone. You guys heard this, right? He's dating Jordan Hudson. Whoa.

Crazy. It all comes back to Jordan. She is, for the record, a national champion. and cheerleader. I think she would stomp your ass in a race. I'm saying it. I mean, this was last month.

What does it say? Gold Digger got hashtag pay. Hashtag gold digger. She does a lot in the captions. She does a lot with hashtags. She's writing in a way that like she's got a dedic. It almost reminds me of,

God, what was that girl's name who went to those schools abroad? And she Caroline. Calloway. Yep. She's got a little Caroline Calloway to her. where you're just like, who's this for? What did she?

What were we, what did she win? What was that? The gold digger got paid. I have no idea. But that's, you look to the caption to go, what was the name of the event? And instead you'll just find Pablo's name. She won the National Cheerleading Championship for adults. That can't be what it's called.

Hell yeah. The NCCFA. National Cheerleading Championship for adults. It got to be. ones of contestants in that. Her cheerleading squad is named Code Black. And yeah, it's a national cheerleading championship, guys. I don't know.

I don't know what's complicated. And congrats to her. I don't have any issue with her doing this. This is great. I would like to see that race, though. I would pay for the race. I think she would win. I do, I do too.

I'm no offense to you. She is, you know, I know there's a question mark and a shroud of secrecy around. I do think she is younger than you. I know at least she's younger than you. Yeah. And she's going to be full body fitness. She's probably running every day. She's been working out.

walk home, which is a long walk. I do. I do love a walk. You can, you might be here on a walk. If we said, look, who's going to walk the furthest? I bet you would walk farther. Yeah. Can we turn our attention to the other person that we've been looking into at North Carolina? Of course. Of course. General manager. Oh, Jesus. Michael Lombardy. What do we got on him? So I want to shout out foyer ball. This is David Kavucci. Good fellows. His Italianness has been officially called into question. Aye, aye, aye. Because this is how he tweets about the movie. Good fellows.

Good fellows. Thanks. You made me want to watch Goodfellows now. It is crazy to call it. You need to watch Goodfellows. What was he? What, in what world were Peter Schrager and Kay Adams talking to each other in December of 2016? And Lombardi came swooping in.

Oh, was he at Fox at the time? You got to chime in. You need to watch Good Fellows. That's absurd. That guy is not on earth. There is more. Great. Love that scene.

ironic that Chris gets shot in the foot in Goodfellows and turns tables in Sopranos. You watch, Kay? All right, dude, there was a character limit, but that wasn't it. He had room to speak in a understandable way. If you haven't seen The Goodfellows, I think you might enjoy my cousin Vincent.

It's also supposed to be a pretty good flick. There is more. He can't keep saying Goodfellows. Much like in the movie Diner, Femi is going to have to pass a test before we commence. Not the Colts test, rather a Sopranos godfather, Goodfellow's JFK one. He can do it, right, Femi? I don't know. I don't know. This was in 22. Good fellows, that should be illegal. By the way, this is only an opportunity for me to say on the

side that I think that Joe Pesci is the greatest actor of all time. Not a bit. I think he's the best. Cool. Number one. Your faith could never. Because of which role? Okay, you got all the movies that that guy doesn't know the name of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then you got Home Alone. Something for the days. Then you got My Cousin Vinny. Yeah.

This guy's, look, and I know he's playing a similar character in all these movies, but are you going to get My Cousin Vinny laughs and you're going to get Casino out of the same guy? Yeah. Robert De Niro's trying. Robert DeRos tried his whole life to get my cousin Vinny. He can't do it. He can't do it. He's great, but he can't do it.

I feel like Michael Lombardi, we need to devote an information. entire episode to that. Good fellows? To the fact that he's... He's Italian. Wait, so did you find something out about his last name and your findings out? Well, it has been previously reported that he appreciates or benefits from the fact that people think he's related to Vince Lombardi.

But that is his real last name. That is his real last name. He just has no... He just has no... Yeah. Yes, he's the good fellows of Vince Lombardis. I made him Irish and Jewish at the same time. Perfect. Didn't, like, didn't Joe Thaisman change the way you say his name to because he wants, right, right, right, right, right. So Joe Thysman, former quarterback, Heisman. You got to tell me. Yeah, he knows that. Grisly, grizzly leg accident from the, from L.T. right? Does L.T. heard it? Did Lawrence Taylor? I think so.

Oh, look who's telling. Look who's what now. Yes. That feel good? I feel good about that. North Carolina alum Lawrence Taylor. Mm. That's right. It's right. It all back. Full circle. Okay, wait, the story is that Joe Thiesman. It was how you're supposed to say it. But he changed it to Thysman because it rhymed with Heismans? He was doing a Heisman campaign. Wow.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did he win the Heisman? No. I don't think so. Would that work? Do you think if I changed my last name to like Mosker or something? Let's find out.

So I could win an Oscar? Michael Cruz Mosker? Michael Cruz Mosker? Okay, yeah. I'll try it. But if it didn't work for him, I'm not doing it. But if it did work for him, then I would. That's why it's funny.

Ladies and gentlemen, Pablo Flobel Prize. Something like that. If it worked, Pablo would have done it by now. Yeah, that's true. We're getting incoming interest in another familiar character on this program. Wonderful. It's the greatest hits. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Cleetus. No specific question, but I hope you guys dial in Cletus. Cleetus. I love Cletus. Not the robot from Fox NFL Sunday. Yes, not former Mike Lambertie colleague. That is, yes, exactly.

And you should have heard those two in the games. getting coffee in the break room. But that's spelled like cleat. And this, Cletus is not that. It would be forgivable if Cletus, the robot, thought the movie was called Goodfellows. Yeah. That would be allowed. Oh, that would make sense even.

Cletus, this Cletus, has been leaving us voicemails. Our Cletus. Our Cletus. Has been leaving us voicemails all year. Yes? Hey, Pablo. This is Cleetus in the Voslora. Man, I was just wondering something after watching the TV a lot.

I noticed stuff. why do women shave their under arms and why are they are they is that a societal thing or is that men forcing them to or is that women just liking to do that it seems like it's bad for them like there's a lot of pores and stuff and i just wonder if that's like a societal thing and should we should we not act like that's gross when men don't do that and i mean i don't know it's It just seems like it's kind of backwards. And, of course, I'm married and all that. My wife, of course, does. But I just wouldn't want to feel like she has to for me because I don't really think I'd care. But it seems kind of selfish if that's what society is putting on women to make them do it, where it seems like it could actually have adverse effects on their health.

And maybe we should give the women a break and just let them be. you know, so I'll hang up and listen and I... He's having a feminist awakening every single day. Like, he's sitting in Navar, Florida by like a swamp. They have swamps. What's there? Let's say swamp. Like reading the feminist mystique or whatever.

That's right. He's reading bell hooks. Yeah. Another thing. Yeah, here's another one. Do you remember what Cletus does? He takes the cooking oil, used cooking oil from restaurants and gathers it and sells it to people and they turned it into fuel or something?

A job that was last. Sorry, Cletus. That was pretty close. No, I think that's right. It's the job that was last in the news because of another Fox colleague. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Mark Sanchez.

Yeah, yeah. Who got in a fight with that guy who was doing that. Whatever came of that. I don't know. Our investigation into that continues, I suppose. I do like that Cletus is married and I was like, let me ask Katie. Let me, let me ask Katie what's up. You think that was for me?

I think that was explicitly for you. No. but I think he knows that you're our in-house woman. Girl? Jesus. You're the in-house woman. Jesus. Allow me to speak for all of us.

Actually, just let me check and make sure I'm even on the, yeah, they're mostly shaved. I think it's societal, yeah. It's like it was seen as like a beauty standard thing. And look, you can not. You can choose to not, but almost every time someone notices that a woman doesn't, it becomes the like leading headline about her. Is it, oh, shave her armpits.

Is it, doesn't it feel like it was, maybe, I'm not sure if I know this or if I'm feeling it, but that it's like a Gillette thing, a Gillette and like, whatever, 19.

The same way with like, diamond rings and engagement, the way they like tied it to it for marketing. They were just like, if you don't do this, you're disgusting. I believe it. I believe it. This is,

I got less of a problem with this. It's these I want to talk about. This is, no, your full leg. It's so. much, it's 50% of your body. Yeah.

And we're supposed to shave it all the time. It's just, this is like, whoop, whoop, done, whoop, whoop done. That's the sound you make when you do it, right? Yeah, this is, uh, this takes a lot of time. And it's all of your skin. So if you have, like, sensitive skin, you're dragging around. Imagine if you're, you had to do your face, but it was your whole bottom half.

Although I would say as my particular genetic makeup makes it so I don't actually have that much hair. So, but I understand what you're getting at. Oh, I got. I'm a centaur. What's that? Smooth up top. Yeah, but down below it's... I'm Italian.

So I am entirely covered in hair. In fact, parts of me that seem like they're not, it's because we were early adopters to laser hair removal technology. My mom had a friend who was practicing. I was like 12. And she was like, let her zap by your face. Katie Nolan was in the Weapon X program for laser hair removal.

It hurt back then. My friend is... That's not a practice. situation. And they put numbing cream on it and it did not work. I got blasted most of my spots. And it's all, I'm so hairy. It has fought back. And I'm, and it's coming back. Sweetie, let Linda practice with the laser on your face. So it is. It was, yeah, there's a lot of, like, protective technology. Follicular healing factor. You're running around the house, hiding behind the couch and she's like trying to shoot lasers at you. That was it. That was mostly it. It hurts so bad.

We do have another follow-up inquiry along these lines. Please, more Cletus. From Cletus? Please, I only want to talk to Cletus. Hey, Pablo. This is Cletus from Navar, Florida. I was watching the TV other night, and I was just wondering, are women more constipated than men?

Okay. Because I ain't seen one men constipation commercial, but we got all these women on the TV commercial, so I'm about how they're constipated, and here's what you should take. for it. And I'm just wondering this is our fault, you know? Like, is this

a recent problem? Or is this men making women more constipated by putting pressure on them? I don't know what's going on, but I appreciate you to find that a little bit. All right. Now, that's not a phenomenon I'm even aware of.

Me neither, but I'm not... It sounds like a woke way to ask if women are full of shit. I have seen, I think, a commercial but I don't remember if it's a man or a woman getting into a hot tub. They're getting into a hot tub where there's a bunch of like attractive other people in the hot tub with them. And they're kind of like, ooh, I can finally get in here because I'm not worried about taking a shit. I just took a shit. You guys don't know what I'm talking about?

No, but I believe you, it's not your fault that it's weird. Have you seen the Colagard one where two women are like hitting on the anthropomorphic box that you're supposed to put your shit in to send off to this company? It makes no, the things mowing the lawn and they're basically going like, wait, the box is mowing the lawn? It's a box that you put your shit in. Why are you hitting on it sexually? This is the non-invasive prescription adenstool DNA test. Holy cow.

You're like, what is even the messaging here where she's like, I love the way does your yard work. The box of shit? What are we talking about? But do women get constipated more than men was the question. Yeah. And I don't. I do like that Cletus is turning to us.

and not Claude or chat GPT. I agree. He's looking at the world through a critical lens that maybe he's been, you know, awakened in some way. And he's like, wait, hang on a second. Why are we? It's like, what is it called? Pink tax?

Pink tax? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. All the products that are both men and women use if they're designed for women. It's like, oh, this is a little more. Why is a woman's razor cost more than a men's razor? What's going on there? That's Cletus.

I bet you there's one of those from Cletis. I can't wait until Cletus asks us why they only use blue liquid in periods. commercials when they... That's a fair question. Because what the fuck? I remember it was like revolutionary a while ago. Somebody like used a different... I don't even think it...

They used red. People were like, whoa. The scientist ran screaming from the room. Oh, wait, it's red like that? What the hell, dude. It's red like that. It's also got chunks in it. What were you saying?

Oh, ladies and gentlemen, this segment brought you by chunks. Wake up, guys. Grow up. We've had to deal with it our whole lives. You think we aren't horrified the first time we see that? We're in middle school. is already not going great for us. Okay? And then one day you go, I'm falling out of me.

What was the other stuff you had? Anyway, you were going to say, Pablo. I'm falling out of me. Everything is a nightmare. Life is just constantly going, about something or another thing. Or a third thing. Hold on, let me just see.

Important to note. Are you calling Cletus? He always just sprinks this on us. be funny if he's not calling Cleas. He's just calling. Put it on speakerphone. It doesn't sound like it's on speakerphone to me. We can't hear that. You don't hear it on the microphone? No. Take the, unplug it and push it into the mic. Poblatorie one. Cletus! Cletus, can you hear me as well as Katie Nolan as well as Michael Cruz Kane?

Hi, Cletus. We're good, Cletus. We miss you. I miss y'all too. Hell yeah. A little brief sin of fame in the panhandle. That's right. I think it's still going. You're famous to us still. We listened to a couple of your messages just now. Uh-oh.

Cletus, can you paint the picture of where you are right now as you continue to be our Florida Panhandle correspondent? Florida Panhandle taking a grease container to somebody. Nice. Trying to figure out what I'm going to cook dinner for my wife tonight. Hell yeah. What are the options? I don't know. I mean, I'm probably going to do like a Greek bowl.

Saute some chicken breasts. and do some Greek rice and some avocados, some feta cheese, some aloes, tomatoes, tomatoes, cucumber, and a green onion, and put some pepperini's on top of it and call it a meal. Yum. That sounds very helpful. Can I ask the question? My question for you, Cletus, is what's the division of dinner preparation in your home? What percent of the time are you doing it?

And what percent of the time is she doing it? My wife works harder than I did. do much of the cooking because although she's a great cook, I just try to make it easier on her. She's a nurse, right, Cletus? She's a nurse? Well, she's a director of nursing. But yeah, she wasn't, she's still a nurse at heart. Yeah.

And I'm a chef in a former life. We used to have restaurants in Alabama. And I'm a certified chef, so she lets me do it because I enjoy it. She cooks and it's great, but she doesn't enjoy it. My wife is a nurse also, Cletus, and I know the grind, so I'm also used to getting food on the table for my wife who works much harder than me. Respect. Yeah.

You're just saying what he said. Why don't nurses get the whole first responder discounts that everybody else saves lives kids? Yeah. I wonder about that. When I was banging my pot and pan during the pandemic, that was exclusively for. for nurses. That's who I was thinking of when I was leaning out my window. Exactly. We just forgot about them now. Yeah. That sucks.

My wife's a, she's a really hard worker. She's very dedicated. Well, Pledas, we love, we love, we love that you continue to embody what it means to be the ideal spouse of a Filipino person. And. Well, actually, my wife's not Filipino. Well, she's a nurse. So technically, I think. My son-in-law is Filipino. Ah, okay. And, you know, y'all call on birthdays.

It's weird. Who's birthday? Who's birthday? He's birthday. And it's my grandson, Eli, he's too today. Oh, Eli. Happy birthday, Eli. Happy birthday, Eli.

Elijah Garcia. We're going to teach him how to play basketball or something where he can be on the Filipino national team. Yes. You don't have to be that. You don't even need to be Filipino. The Philippines made Andre Blatch, former Washington Washington Washington Center. Isn't Javelle McGee on the Filipino national team? We passed legislation to make those guys members of the national team.

Well, I'm just catches the spirit of the Olympics. Maybe I don't know what we'll train him to do, but I just want to go to the Olympics and represent the Philippines. I would love nothing more than that, Cletus. Because, Cletus, you know, it also occurs to me that in your capacity as professional guy who deals with oil, you're also now our oil correspondent. How do you feel about potentially the end of the world tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern? There's a lot of people down there that did. We just went to Disney World this past week celebrating my grandson's two-year-old birthday. And I didn't see one Make a America Great Again at.

Where have they gone? I mean, is it they're embarrassed? They lose their hats. On the panhandle, we're, it's pretty red down here. And everybody has just kind of pretend like they ain't got a part of this now. And I won't let them forget. You know, I used, I'm still a conservative person as far as money. But as far as everything else,

I say live and let live and you should just love your fellow human being and I just don't know what's happened to these people. I mean, you know, when you elect a madman, you got to stick with him, go down with the shit. They're not doing it. I have a thing he's going to taco out tonight, but I hope he does.

I do too. I mean, I just, I made all the awful stuff he says, it's awful. I, well, only a crazy person. He's already crazy, but this stuff is 20th Amendment for the, to me. And I just, I would, Pablo, I swear you'd be such a good president of the United States. Chill out, Cletus. We just started at the committee to elect Pablo president.

I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I was with you the whole time. I can't let you do this. It's either Pablo or Stephen A. Smith, those are your two choices. Oh, no.

That's who you get. No, I just Katie, I mean, you have a cabinet position. Yes. That's not a good idea either. Secretary of Chicks. Jesus Christ.

Secretary of coolness. Hell yeah. Secretary of Coolness. We create a new cabinet position. Cletus, I should have told you that you're currently live on air. On YouTube.

But I also, very good legally, cleared that hurdle. And also, thank you for providing us a note of, for me, personal hopefulness that I didn't have when we started the show. It is true. And we love you, Cleetus. Thank you, Cleetus. Happy birthday to Eli. And thank you for your endorsement.

I do approve this message. Don't that part, no, but the rest of it, yes. Yes, sir, yes, sir. I'm always here for you, Pablo. I mean, always. Oh, yeah. I enjoy. I listen to Katie's show.

I mean, it's all good. And, uh, Katie, like, when you first started on Lovetard, I was like, oh my God, she is so funny. I get, I think we'll probably wrap it up now, though. You get the end music? What it's the end music? What it's like? This has been Pablo Torre finds out, a metal arc media production. And I'll talk to you next time.