Pablo Torre Finds Out - Share & Call the President & Tell with Brace Belden and Liz Franczak

Episode Date: July 28, 2026

The hosts of TrueAnon and Pablo Torre obtain Trump’s personal cell number and debate what to ask him. Plus: “FreddyLA7,” Nicholas Adamopoulos, special presidential envoys, America 250, Woke 2, Tom Brady vs. Logan Paul, Zohran Mamdani vs. The Internet, Lori Lightfoot vs. The Fridge... and whether you should autograph a bomb.• Subscribe to "TrueAnon"• Previously on PTFO: Six Degrees of Jeffrey Epstein, with the the Experts of TrueAnon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is. You guys have some of the nastiest strip clubs that have ever existed. Right after this. Do you have Donald Trump's number? Yeah. Yeah, I got his number. There was a news cycle where it was like some people have Donald Trump's number,

and then I realized Brace is one of those people. Yeah, I called him. He picked up. I didn't record it for the show. And I actually let a friend do it because it was his birthday. And he picked up, it was like 11 o'clock at night. We actually weren't that far from here. And my friend sort of panicked.

And he was like, hello? And it was Trump. And it was kind of like, it was a little bit sexy the way he answered. Like he answered and there was like a beat. And then he was like, hello? And he was like, who is this after another beat? And my friend in a panic did, she said he was Netanyahu. And he was on, I don't know.

Ketamine in Bushwick and he needed a ride home. I would have played it a little bit differently. No, you got to play it as the British reporter. Play it straight. And then see if you can get him answer some questions. Yeah, that is true. Can we call the president? Yeah, we can try to call on him.

Let's see if he picks up. Wait, can we just strategize really quickly? So if he picks up, we're going to go. I think you should take it. Oh, no, that's a lot of pressure. What the fuck? you're a real reporter. Because I feel like you can do like serious voice really well, whereas like listen to his voice.

You can't. I sound that this is the problem. Point proven. No, because I try to, I frequently try to fib to people in unfamiliar environment and I have to talk to people. I do try to present myself a little more professionally. And that doesn't work because I feel like I look unprofessional like genetically. And my voice is quite unprofessional. And my cadence, I feel like is.

And so I feel like Trump would. would note that too quickly. And I sound like a Muppet, so it's just not going to... Guys, no one's going to take a serious. We could ask him to comment on... So, I'm just going to interrupt both of my honored guests today, Brace Belden and Liz Franchak, because they both deserve to be taken quite seriously.

Especially since we are welcoming them both back on a very special day for their podcasts, which they co-host and which I love, called Truanon. It actually is our exact to this day seven-year anniversary. That's why I said that. It is. Yeah, seven-year itch starting now.

I'm thinking of maybe starting a sports podcast. No, we're a sports show. Yeah. We deal with sports and topics. But it's investigative sports. Yeah. It's a little different. So we do things a little different.

Yeah. The only difference, as we like to say, is that we're white. And so we do it a little bit differently. race and Liz do not call themselves journalists, as they alluded to before, as we figure out today, what to ask the president. What they are, instead, are the people I count on to both research and explain America's insanely online era of foreign and domestic policy. An era shaped fundamentally by strange festivals, as you'll see, as well as this endlessly revolving door. of arcane figures who seem too ridiculous

to go mainstream. But then, inevitably, do. You are curious, it turns out, about things that I am also curious about and things that people are going to have to realize might directly affect them. And Jeffrey Epstein was, of course, the thing we first talked about

when you were here the last time. The email release was, like, there was such a big story for, like, a month, and then I got superseded by so much. many other insane things that happen, that it feels like it happened like three or four years ago. You know what I mean? Like, there's been like four versions of the Iran war since then. Which brings us to last Friday night at the White House Correspondents dinner, because as LeBron James was busy becoming a Philadelphia 76er, the man in charge of all of these wars recalled

how his aides at one point simply stopped telling him when reporters were calling, possibly in effort to just get him to stop talking to them. I'd say, Caroline, did the press call. No, sir, no calls. I said nothing. That's over a week. I haven't received a call. So I said, you know, I'm going to give the press my phone number.

That was the stupidest thing I ever did. I'm getting a call every 3.7 minutes. Like, the one from Brace Belden's friend. And soon, relatedly, me. I do like to speak to the press But now I have the best system I've ever had It rings and just so you understand You're much better of putting your name

Because if there's no name I just I just can't do that You know I pick up everyone said well Hello I'm from Reno Nevada We're a startup paper We're calling it The Reno Express I said do you believe I'm the president of the United

Says Mr. President could I have your views Or in Iran And I just hang up I get the credit I have a question, actually, before we called the president. Okay. What do you make of Trump's comments about the soccer match? To get the red card revoked?

Yeah, not just that. Although I did appreciate that he seemed to think through his own. He was like, I know Trump is like, you know, master bullshit, but also it did seem like he genuinely felt like it was a bad call. And that wasn't a foul. That wasn't even an infraction. There was two guys running full speed that happened to craze. into each other. You can't take your foot and properly place it on somebody else's foot when you're going,

no, these were two great athletes that got tangled up. Do you want to debate Donald Trump about the red card? No, no. My point is, like, I think the call could have gone either way. I mean, it's like FIFA reps, you know, what are you going to do? But I think getting it revoked was crazy. I think it was very funny that the independent part of FIFA that had to review this and that was very above board turned out to be one guy.

to turn up the decision according to reporting by one guy from the UAE. Chairman Mohamed al-Kamali of the United Arab Emirates, the committee was neither informed nor consulted. The UAE is a top-tier relation to the Trump family's business interest and government relationships. I was like, okay, that feels maybe like it was. That's an awesome guy. do it. Super democratic.

That's one of the most impartial countries in the world, man. The UAE, it's a bunch of different Emirates all together. It's like a democracy. I mean, they don't have like a democracy per se. But it is like a sort of group of emirates, which is functionally is like the same thing

as a city council. You know? But Dubai is the mayor, obviously. Part of why I'm realizing this is very difficult, given that you have the actual phone number for the United States president, is that there is, in this very conversation, toggling between, we do maybe have the opportunity

to ask something real. But also, this is entirely ridiculous. Well, the problem with Trump, like, getting Trump to say something real is that, like, Trump vacillates between saying something like real sounding or just completely insane sounding. And basically, it doesn't matter who he's talking to. He'll just say whatever. And so he might be like, yeah, we're going to have 50,000 troops in the Middle East or whatever.

And that'll be a headline for a day. But, like, then he won't do it. or he'll do it and it'll have said something completely different. So it's like, you know, there's a certain limit to asking him questions, but I think it's always good to get a little sound bite. So this is what we're going to do. We're going to do an episode here, I think, and we can, while talking to each other and having a good time,

having the back of our minds, what should we ask the president at the very end when we call him? And if he picks up, how are we going to handle that as responsible citizens? And in my case... Content creators. And if he doesn't pick up, we can call Polly Shore. I have Polly Shore's number two. Do you really?

Yeah. I want to put this in the context of Brace's journey to America 250. I went to D.C. Now, I'm going to be honest, it wasn't on Fourth of July. When did you go? A few days before. Because I didn't go for the Fourth of July celebrations. I went for a Fourth of July celebration, which was the fair.

Well, thousands are descending on the national mall for the first weekend of the Great American State exhibits for all 50 states and six territories on full display to celebrate America's 250th birthday next week. And everybody knows, same thing you're going to a Renaissance fair to look at all the freaky little elves, same thing you're going to a fucking, any kind of thing that a lot of people go to, don't go on the weekend, you want to go on a weekday because there's less people,

more big turkey legs. Sure. I went with a friend of mine, Bobby, and we get there, and it is the worst piece of shit I've ever seen in my life. It's on the fucking White House Mall. It was like a billion degrees out, too? It was 101 degrees. It was 101 degrees.

And Brace, Liz, for people who aren't familiar, Brace does adventures like this. He goes to weird places. He goes to maggot things. He loves to go on safari. I'm conservative. And as an experience, as an amusement park, you are leaving a negative Yelp review.

At the America 250 Fair, there was a row of pavilions that every state was represented in probably every territory. But I didn't make it to all of them because it was a little too hot. I would say about half of the state's booths that I visited, there was no things in there. I'm going to Illinois, right? What does Illinois have?

Hot dogs. Pizza? Yeah, I actually kind of like Chicago pizza, but a lot of people don't, so I understand why they wouldn't include. What does Illinois have? The Bears? There you go. The Bears, Super Bowl shuffle.

You expect the fridge to be there. That's the one football player I grew up knowing about. I couldn't believe how big this guy. You expect the fridge to be there. Or one of these guys or someone's doing the Super Bowl shuffle or something. Lori Lightfoot. Lori Lightfoot. They're one of the shortest women in history.

Wait, you could have had Lori Lightfoot and the fridge. Can you imagine? Big and tiny. That's a classic combo. Master Blaster for Mad Max 2. There's a lot that they could have done here. Anything. Anything.

Have anything from your state there. And so you'd expect to go into these booths in every state being like, look, our state is awesome. But like, you know, you'd think like oh, Georgia, we got peaches and, you know, we got a different kind of gay guy. And like, you'd have that shit in there. But you'd go in there, in Georgia especially.

I literally was like, this is going to be awesome. People in Georgia love to have fun. Every, there was nothing. There was no things from that state. In Georgia, there was just cardboard with chat GPT with that, like, cartoon style, all the texts with Chad GBT of just like Georgia's agricultural industry.

We don't care. We don't care. Show me the peaches. Show me the peaches. Show me. You guys have some of the nastiest strip clubs that have ever existed. Bring some of them up here. This is.

They could have done Magic City. This is what I'm saying. You can smoke in there. You should let it smoke. You could probably smoke in. This is practically outside. Can you imagine if you had Lori Lightfoot at Magic City at the fucking American. America 250?

The fridge? What are we doing? What was the California one out of California? The California one was fucking dog shit. I don't even remember what was it. You got to get Gavin on the horn. No, Gavin wouldn't come near with that 10-foot pole. Too busy coming with a new accent.

What happened to the friendship? I know. Well, I go to the New York one. I'm like, New York. Many say greatest, greatest city, and then not so many people say it about the state, but some people say it's an okay state in the world. I went in there. New York State is not represented.

It is a tourist company. That it was just like having you do QR codes so that you could sign it for their fucking newsletter. It sucked. Every single booth that I went into that was supposed to represent every state in this wonderful tapestry we call the Blanket of America. I was disappointed.

There was not a single good thing. There wasn't a single good one? There was not. What was the best worst one? Samoa. Really? Yeah. They got a booth.

They got a booth. That's nice. The territory. American Samoa. Sure. Nonetheless, wasn't sure that they would get the invite. glad to hear it and there was actually

a fair amount of Samoans there and I was like huh that's cool probably not so hot for you guys huh but it is for me to set the scene if you go to a fair

the best thing about the fair is seeing the beautiful animals the biggest camel yeah oh my god there's always a camel and sometimes a zebra but they have like animals

the fattest cow in the state the biggest egg or whatever and there's rides you know there's some cars There was none of that. There was not a single animal besides the most dangerous animal of all, which is man. But there was not that many of that there either.

But there was not a single animal there. There wasn't any actual agriculture there. There was just like $18 hot dogs. It wasn't like state food. I mean, imagine how great that would be. Most state's food, it's pretty lousy. I feel like this was such an easy layup and they totally whiffed it. There was three rides, Liz.

There were rides. They weren't rides. They were exhibits. They were all by defense manufacturers. Like a Raytheon tilt-a-world? Yeah, it was a Raytheon. There was a, no, it was a Raytheon tunnel that you walked in. And I was like, these guys have bagillion dollars.

They're going to make an awesome ride. They could have done something cool even with that. Like, imagine if you had a ride where you could get on a drone, and then you went like, and it was like one of the like swirly-whirly things. But you could like sit on a drone. That was like the seat that you were on. Like, that would have been so cool. A missile autographing station where you could put your name,

on a bomb. When did politicians start doing that? They always do it now. And I'm going to tell you, no matter what the conflict, that's not going to look good in like 30 years. That's going to end up in like a textbook or something.

So like, don't, if you were a senator watching this and they're like, you're on the junket to anywhere, don't sign the bomb. What about, though, the celebrities? Millie Van Daly was supposed to be there. Cancel.

There's only one of them left. Canceled. The only person that performed was Flo Rida. Okay. They had Janine Piro was like at the, at the fucking... I mean, she's the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia. But I mean, she's like a star.

Yes. She's got some, you know, star power. Of stage and screen. Yeah. Yeah. She is, I mean, because she was a fake judge on TV. Yeah. It takes some, like...

She's like a real fake judge and a fake real judge. Yeah. She was there. She was like doing a mounted patrol to make sure that no one was scraping the, the fucking... Reflecting pool. I went into I went into the Capitol but they were on recess

and I did go to John Federman's Sure You know it's a closest one gets to see that's seen Bigfoot Or like some other kind of like Talk about the fridge I know oh my God Those two collabing

I want an oil painting of that Oh I'd probably do some sort of sexual AI image At home when I make this But he wasn't there I don't know where he was At the therapist's office So I didn't really see

any celebs when I was there. It was actually a pretty big disappointment. I feel like the whole point, though, is there are all these characters. And when there are these big events that are advertised, whether it's America to 50 and the accompanying UFC thing, which I'm so crestfallen to report,

we were denied credentials to. We were. Yeah. I texted Brace while you were bringing life into the world. I was like, hey, would you ever have interest in covering the UFC fight? Yeah. And he responded to immediately and enthusiastically, and we were denied credentials.

That's crazy. But I guess my point is... What has happened to this country? I know. I actually would have loved to cover it in ways that are... You're pretty good friends with Connor. McGregor. Yeah.

Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go way back. I have his number. We're going to call that later. Of course, of course. But I guess what I'm saying is all these events have been marketed and sold in such a way that I associate

these Trump world characters with them, and for instance, most recently with this World Cup thing, are you guys familiar first with like the character of Freddie? Yes. They turned that boy out. What?

Out into the country. Freddie, L.A. 7. He was a total phenom. My mom was a big fan. She was like, look at this. Look at all this content. Look at this sweet, anonymous German character. emerged on Twitter to tell all of America how great we are.

He loves Pizza Hut. Correct. He was kind of like, who was that Nazi fellow who flew to England to surrender quite early? Stop. A little like that. He went to another country, tell him you're so great, taken to the capital. Rudolph Hess. Rudolph Hess, Mr. Hess.

So he was like a young boy. We don't know. I mean, his face has been obscure this entire time, but one of the things he was given was this tour of the White House, and of the Washington Monument, and of the interior of our government. They let him get in the reflecting pool. They let old Freddy in.

Thanks to this character, Nick Adams. And Nick Adams is familiar to you guys because, of course, he's one of these figures that emerge online. And once again, you are left to decide, is this satire,

or is this the most genuine thing we've ever seen? but his title, I should just clarify, I had to write it down, is Special Presidential Envoy for American Tourism. That's so awesome. And excellence, isn't there something that's like, and excellence? Oh, sorry, sorry, special presidential envoy for American tourism, exceptionalism, and values. I love that. He should draw a triple salary.

That's three jobs. That is three jobs. Mr. President, it is the honor of a lifetime to serve as your special presidential envoy. for American tourism, exceptionalism, and values. The United States is a nation that since its inception was destined for greatness. And the story of American greatness is the most captivating, exciting, and inspiring

in the history of the world. Exceptionalism and values you're doing? Damn. But this, for people who don't... Talk about inflation. Who've never seen any of these words in this combination before. or Nick Adams himself, how would you describe what his general sort of deal is?

I feel for him because he's a content creator at heart. And so that makes him one of our colleagues and we should get that you know, let's put that at the, you know, right at the front. So we can only be so critical because we're all in the industry and that's how that all works.

I am not sure exactly how much of his fingerprint is on all this stuff. But it does feel like, more and more of a concerted campaign. Yes. Especially because as like, I feel like you and many other people have covered the, it's funny,

like after, you know, we're, what, a week out now from the World Cup? Yeah. I was reading someone say like, oh, for all of the criticism, it all went off, like, without a hitch. You know, it was all great. Everyone, you know, we did it. We did it. And it wasn't so bad. there was no chaos. And it's like, well, actually, if you read the foreign press, it was a bit

different for everyone. And I know that because, like, you know, my husband's Brazilian. And so he's, like, reading everybody and all the commentary from that. And for international journalists that were covering the games, they were shocked at a kind of way they were treated by the Americans, everything from DHS all the way through what they were able to kind of, like, access with the players and the teams and so on and so forth. And so you compare that to then how well, I think, the Americans domestically controlled how the games were covered. And you got to say maybe our boy is actually doing a good job. Well, what Freddie got as this special invite to Washington, D.C. was an American-style lunch, a bonin tomahawk rabbi from robust American cattle from the heartland, comma.

Golden Maha approved beef tallow fries, comma. onion rings and hearty bone-in chicken wings, M-Dash, all paired with the coldest domestic beer our capital has to offer, end quote. And Nick Adams, the figure here, we should point out that he himself is an American citizen as of 2021. Hard fight. He originally is from Ware Brace. He's from Australia, which is a lot of people don't know what Australia is. It's like a worse England out there. And for some reason, it's near, like, China.

Well, not that near China, but it's closer to China than England is. They have a whole word, word, rather, for where it is. Antipodian. What? Yeah. Well, I don't actually really know what antipodian means. It's just something that people say when they're describing something that's Australian. Belonging to the area diametrically opposite oneself on the earth and a colloquial term for residents of Australasia.

Yeah, there you go. Australasia. So he's Australasian. And he was a precocious young man who became. a city counselor. And then his kind of big thing was they wanted to kill all the pigeons. And, you know, I'd like to hear him out on that. But he didn't, I don't think governed very effectively.

And then transitioned to being a motivational speaker because he got cancer when he was four. And let me tell you, you had cancer when you're four, you don't remember that. I'm sorry. You don't remember that. You weren't really there. Your parents did most of it. I know that you were there. You were pretty conscious.

We don't really start four. my memories until we're about five or six. Mercifully. And I got to be honest. If you're four, it's sad when a four-year-old has cancer. I'm not denying that. But when they're older, they'll be like, I had cancer that day, you know? Nick, by the way, real name, Nick, I think it's Atomopolis, which is crazy. Nicholas Adamopolis, born in 1984. Is he Greek? Yeah, there's a large Greek community in Australia. It's for some reason. Nicholas Adamopolis. Nicholas Adamopolis. Can you say that five times? Nicholas Adamopolis, Nicholas Adamopoulos, Nicholas Adamopoulos, Nicholas, but I worked for Greeks. That's true. I didn't say it five times. But he became a motivational speaker, which I think is one of the

most awesome jobs you can ever get. And there's video of him doing, I watched one yesterday of him just like in like a fucking Red Robin or whatever, like some kind of like luncheon thing. And he was just talking about this cancer. I'm like, well, it was. I wasn't really like... Do you think that he had to go into, like, deep into analysis to, like, access those memories? You're like repressed memories? Yeah. You know what's crazy is I had memories of getting my tonsils taken out, but my parents were like,

no, you didn't, that was your fucking, it was your brother. They gaslit you? They gaslit me, and guess what? My tonsils are out. Those were real memories. And that was like, I was like three or four when that happened. So I guess I had to give him some credit there. But he became a motivational speaker and, like, vaguely tried to be a manosphere kind of guy,

but he's, like, not, like, enough of a player. How would you describe? and visually. That's such a great question. I think he kind of, he's got a little bit of thumb face. Because it's got, he's long in the face a little bit.

Yeah. He's not a handsome man in the traditional sense. I mean, that's fine. He sort of does look like a piece of wet meat. Like, you know, like a baloney. He's a little baloney-ish. I would say something thicker. Well, like, pre-slice baloney.

Yeah. Like if you, or if you poured, like, water on like a, like a dollar store steak. You know what I mean? He looks like a wet dollar store steak. And I don't think that's a bad thing. Oh, the only reason I ask you guys to do the exercise for those who are just listening and not watching

is because he had styled himself over time into the paragon of what it is to be an alpha male. Hooters is a wonderful family establishment. And I, for one, am absolutely sick and tired of it being defamed, deriving. introduced and mocked, used as a tool to stop men being men, used as a tool to stop there being alpha males in our society. And has written numerous books.

The book about his quest for immigration is called Green Card Warrior, colon, my quest for legal immigration in an illegals apostrophe system, which Donald Trump has since called a, quote, must read. Also, he wrote a book called Alpha Kings. Yeah. I first encountered him in my Twitter feed. He posted about his butcher, and one of the lines he wrote is, quote, I love watching Mario handle my meat. Well, that's pretty alpha king of him. Pause. Oh. And about golf, quote, a foursome with the boys will be the most fun you will ever have in your entire life.

So I do like sports. I follow this thing called Outkick. And Clay Travis, I believe the guy's name is. our good friend and colleague. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crazy to be named. It's being like being named Clay, it's great. It's like being named no disrespect to anyone out there. It's like being named dirt or mud, you know?

It is kind of like being named mud. Or sand. Yeah, that's actually kind of, that's like a sexy, mysterious woman. Consider that. But I watched him on an outkick Alpha Male podcast. It was released two years ago, very HD. And he's basically just talking to a quite overweight gentleman who is presenting himself as Alpha.

and he was like, I would have, if I still got tattoos, something happened, if I still got tattoos, I would get a tattoo that says toxic male on me. And they were both sort of like agreeing with that. I would get a toxic masculinity. What body pot would you get it on? Well, everyone needs to see it, so probably my forehead. I feel like it needs to be maybe a nice toxic down on the side, maybe take the beard off a little bit.

Because it goes back to the same thing. Being a, quote, man, an American man, or the American way of wife man seems to be so threatening. I think there's a lot of people who sort of outsource their social media strategy to like you say the most outrageous things, whatever, like funny things,

you get attention, then people like sign up for your shit. Very gay things. Yeah. But this was where it was confusing to me. I was like, oh, I think this is a bit. But you get to a world in which the guy who said, we got to get all the pigeons out of Australia

is the special presidential envoy for American tourism and exceptionalism and whatever and he has a video in which he is calling for what, Brace? He is calling to eat pigeons. You know, pigeon is eaten in many parts of the world, and I think you can eat anything. But he does have a video of him in Egypt, which also, by the way, being the minister for tourism or whatever,

what a gig, right? Because you just go and you just visit other countries. and he's eating pigeon. Beautiful. Absolutely nice. Very great texture. Tastes a lot like chickens. So I'm currently looking for more meat.

Because I've just had mostly rice so far and a bit of skin. It doesn't look particularly good. No disrespect to anybody. I'll love. But making a reference to his own history. And he says, I love pigeons. It's weird because there is a bird in Australia that does attack people. I've been attacked by a bird in Australia.

Magpie is a bird in Australia. believe they're called. They're quite vicious. People have to put googly eyes on their bicycle helmets to scare them off. They're really vicious creatures. But he goes and they eats pigeon, and it's like, well, who is this for? You know what I mean? Apparently, it is for the highest levels of the federal government. He was going to be made ambassador. Right. So it's important to point out that he got the title of Special Presidential Envoy, which is a thing that the president can do without any congressional, senatorial approval. You can just give these titles out.

Here's the headline pro-Trump influencer Nick Adams dropped as U.S. ambassador to Malaysia. Adams' alpha male posturing and pro-Israel comments set off alarms in Malaysia a Muslim majority country, whereas sympathy for the Palestinian cause is widespread. Yeah, yeah. A bit of a miscalculation when you spell it all out, I guess.

Yeah, you'd think they could just find one guy that they'd be like, well, maybe not Nick Adams. But maybe Malaysia is like it was a reward Because oftentimes ambassadorships are rewards So like big donors or friends of the president And I'm like that's kind of like a crazy job For someone like Nick Adams I think that's when most

Can't you see like everyone in Like in the administration they're probably like Ah give them Malaysia who cares about Malaysia Like not knowing anything Or like this would be so funny If we give Nick Adams Malaysia We're going to troll everybody or whatever And it's like this would really trigger people

By the way you know who the US Special Envoy To the United Kingdom is? Who? Mark Burnett The Survivor Producer? The man who produced The Apprentice and Survivor.

They're like, this guy loves Islands? Why do I know that? And also the guy who Donald Trump clearly has decided to give some sort of reward to as the guy who

made him perhaps a television star. That's what we're going to ask Trump. We've got to talk about rewards for the little people. What does he think of Survivor now? Because it's a bit woke, no? I mean, Survivor just did season 50.

Jesus. What is this? What are we on the Ringer podcast network? We can't talk about this. It's not that I got to be honest. You're winning Survivor Season 50. I'm not impressed. They should make people survive in the city

in an urban environment. You should have to move here with just a dollar in a dream in your pocket. Live in a little fucking studio apartment. Work at a blank street. Yeah, I was going to say, you got to be a barista. This is new survivor. Maybe a little bit of owner fans on the side.

You live in Bushwick, bitch. I feel like the president is going to really dig that idea. Yeah, I think that this should do that. One of the things that you've raised is this fundamental question of, is this administration aware of the bit? Are they in their attempt to troll themselves perhaps being trolled in ways that they don't calculate? Or is this entirely something that they're in control of? Like, where are we on the sincerity meter?

with this administration. I do think a lot of them are very, very aware. Everything is very, I think, every act seems very conscious of itself as an act. Whether that is this kind of like jokey, is it gay,

is it not kind of influence their stuff, or if it's like more brazen, like insider trading shit that is happening. You know, like... Right. I think that's all very, very much, we're here,

know we're here, you know that we know what we're doing here. And it's all, you know, it's all very much aware of itself, I think. Which makes it a little scarier. My question then, maybe even more than like for the administration is, do you think that Nick Adams himself knows whether this is sincere or not? I'm not sure it matters, to be honest. At a certain point, the final output is like the only thing that matters, you know? I think that like, as, we, you know, get further and further into this journey that is everyone kind of being educated on social media? Yes, that's what this whole episode is, by the way.

But just like thinking about this moving forward, like, I think it's only, like, no matter who is in power, whatever party or whatever, like, everyone is going to get so much, it's going to be just naturally so much more online as, like, you know, people in the government. As we move forward, everyone who wants, like, younger and younger people in office, you know, for some good reasons, for some who cares reasons, in my opinion, they're all going to be more and more influencers. The only way out of this is through. There's nobody outside of this anymore, especially in the government, which means that, like,

as online millennials and then later Gen Z, people get in public-facing government roles more and more, they're going to be influencer theater kids and that is going to change the shape of our politics and we're only at the like very early point of that with the Trump administration, I'd say. Trump admin, they are so extremely online. Yes. But it can only get more online, unfortunately.

One of the more popular politicians on the left, which would be Zoran Mamdani, the mayor of New York City. I mean, so much that popularity resembles the popularity of an influencer, right? Like, people love watching this guy's short form video. He is constantly making content and he is very good at it. Exactly.

There was a lot of writing right after he won and sort of the surprise upset about how, like, Democrats now need to adopt this model. But I think everybody knows that to some extent. It's just some people got the juice and some people don't. Totally. You know?

I'm just glad that all of these people who are varyingly competent at content creation are now also being able to access information that can be monetized. Yeah. I have a question because now I want to bring this just quickly to some sports stuff. Because I think everyone, I think,

most people really dislike the kind of like player podcast stuff, which is just like going to become more and more and more natural. I mean, some of it's fun, I guess. But the point being that like... Michael Porter Jr.'s online footprint. All roads lead back to Michael Porter Jr., But no, there's been this, yeah, this surge for those who are not familiar.

And, like, podcasts being hosted not by humble content creators who were born this way, but athletes who decided that this is not slumming it, but actually... Like, we are the media. The goal is to, in the case of Tom Brady, the most divorced man on our... I was going to say, looking rough there. Oh, my God. But just, like, making content with Logan Paul. That's awesome.

Like fake slapping each other. Why did Tom Brady slap me? Did you see that, bro? Was that the football thing? It was as a result of it. He was pissed at him. And, dude, listen, we see Tom all the time now. Well, not since the football, since the game.

But this dude always wants smoke. Like, he is, he's, dude, angry guy. He's an angry guy. In the case of, by the way, BFWR mentioned LeBron James and his agent. Yeah, I want to talk about that. They all have podcasts. And the goal is, in fact, to never go away. It's to never retire.

It's to become more visible by creating content forever. But this is what I'm going to say is that like imagine now Congress more and more, they're all going to have podcasts and content that they have to like do themselves too, right? I mean like the Gavin Newsom show. Michael, Michael Collins's multiple shows in which he more and more and more and more and more. You know, but like Katie Miller's fucking podcast where she just interviews like her husband's friends or whatever. But when they're all millennials, it's going to be so different. We're going to have a president with the podcast within the next two terms.

Just ran down my spine that we've only begun to see this. I think we have to call the president. Let's call the president. Are we going to ask him if he's going to start podcasting? I can just do speaker or do you want the number? Let's do speaker. Do you want calling from my phone? He's picked up your phone before.

Do you think he's blocked it for that? Hell, no. Do you think Donald Trump knows how to block a phone number? Could you imagine? He dictates his truths. That's a good point. He's not going to pick up. Well, give me that number and we'll bleep it out as you tell me and I'll enter it into my phone.

5-6-1. Yeah. Why you got to bleep it out? Yeah. It's the president. It's public property. Four. No, no, not four.

Really? Yes. No way. That's crazy. That's a custom number. That's a custom. That's a custom. That's a vanity license play.

That's a custom. That's a custom. I can't like you don't have this. I know. Believe me, I was embarrassed to know that so many people did, and I didn't. But now he's in my phone. We're going to call up President. I can't believe he just has a phone that you can call.

It's ridiculous. It doesn't seem right. So I got to... I guess that's democracy, huh? I do have a 917. Please leave your name, number, and a message after the town. Hey, Mr. President, this is Pablo Torre. The host of Pablo Torre finds out we are taping a live an episode with Brace Bellden and

Liz Franchak from Truanon. And we wanted to ask Mr. President if he has... an opinion on this has been Pablo Torre finds out a Metal Arc Media production and I'll talk to you

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