Pablo Torre Finds Out - Share & Party & Tell with Mina Kimes, Katie Nolan and Patricia Mahomes

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

Is TikTok the one social-media platform that makes you feel good, or is it an algorithmic wasteland of culturally insignificant content? Are we partying hard enough? And was the pre-Taylor Swift version of Travis Kelce actually hot? Plus: second-person IG love letters to your child, a boombox-holding panda/dog... and the tragic end of Party City.Further content:Americans Need to Party More (Ellen Cushing)https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2025/01/throw-more-parties-loneliness/681203/Subscribe to "Casuals with Katie Nolan"https://www.youtube.com/katienolanSubscribe to "The Mina Kimes Show featuring Lenny"https://www.youtube.com/@minakimes Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Pablo O'Otre finds out. I am Pablo O'Ore. Today's episode is brought to you by Draft Kings. Graff Kings, the crown is yours. And today, we're going to find out what this sound is. Oh my God. Oh, my God, a nightmare! Oh, my God, a nightmare!

Right after this ad. You're listening to Draft Kings Network. We should, you know, we should do what we always do when we're waiting for Katie to show up. We should do what we always do when she's running late, which is let's talk about our kids. Let's get that out of that way. How's Nino?

How's Nino doing? What are his measurables? Huge still. I keep waiting for him to get smaller, and it's not happening. In fact, our latest way in, he actually went up to 93rd percentile. What are you feeding him? What's he, like, into food-wise these days? He's into everything, which is great.

but he eats really what we eat but I am not trying to be cocky about it because I have heard too many horror stories of and you can weigh in here obviously babies who are like parents who were like oh our child loves like you know Sichuan food and like

escargo and then all of a sudden they turn two and they only want chicken fingers so I am not overconfident I am I'm enjoying this period where we can take into restaurants while it lasts part of me, but I have no compunctions about it going on forever. Yeah, like Violet loves grilled cheese. Like that's a 99% success rate. But also sometimes you just won't want to eat it.

There's one thing I have noticed with our kid. He just likes food when it's better. Like, he vastly prefers restaurant food. We take a restaurant, he eats everything. And then when we're home and Nick, like, makes him something in the moment, like, grill some salmon, he will eat it. When we are in a hurry and we'll, like, reheat stuff, like, frozen meatballs, he'll, like, be like, mm-mm, nah, nah, which is funny because, like, I guess that

means he's, like, an adult, right? Well, it's the opposite of, like, the typical child psychology thing of, like, they like playing with the cardboard box more than they like what's in it. Like, Nino has fancy tastes. Nino is ordering, like, from the bottom of the menu up. He's looking at the prices. If I want to be clear here, I do not believe my child has a uniquely sophisticated ballot. I think, yeah, like, have you ever, like, so how do we feel about, while we're on this topic, when people do, like, IG posts about their child, but, like, long, like, dear Cassandra, you're for today.

I can't, I can't handle it. You love early Miles Davis and grilled cheese, but only with Greer. And I feel like, why are you trying to make your child sound like sophisticated, right? Just, you know. Honestly, any Instagram post that's in like the second person, I'm out of. It's a thing. It's a thing, right? You'll do it. Yeah. It's like you're a Civil War General writing to, uh, I just might be full disclosure. I may be related to some people who do this and I can't.

I definitely have few in my life. I'm nervous about putting this out there into the universe. Yeah. Everyone's like compiling like a beautifully, like intentionally. crafted and tattered scrapbook. Oh, hello. My main objection is just the positioning of your... It's like making your dating profile. I know it sounds weird for your child

where you're trying to make them sound more interesting than they really are. Like if they was honest, it would be like, dear Nino, like, you love shitting on everything. You are passionate about loud noises, right? Like, you're not like... Yes.

Yes. Dear Violet. You like bright neon colors. Dear Violet, you never wipe your hands after you eat. And you like drying those same hands on our leather sofa, which your father admits was a terrible investment in retrospect, given your personal disrespect for it. Hey, how's everybody doing? I'm dressed like Parapa the Rapa today. I was going to say, you do look like boombox holding panda. Is that what Parapa was?

Sometimes I just feel like this is right, and then you leave the house and you're like, it was wrong. But here we are. You look like you make YouTube videos for children right now. And I pretty much, don't we all? Parapa was a dog, I'm informed. But with black ears and white, it was white and black coloring. I see with a panda.

Had like a winter beanie. Which is what completed the outfit. I did take it off before I got on camera, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were talking about our kids. Yeah, but we're done now. We promise. Do you watch Miss Rachel?

Is that what the, is that what we were chat? about? Everybody loves Miss Rachel. Miss Rachel. I'm not familiar with Miss Rachel. Pablo. What? Yeah, what are you talking about? Oh, oh, oh, oh, this is the cinematic, the Sesame Street Cinematic Universe. Wait, Katie, there's a guy in her Miss Rachel's crew who looks exactly like Pablo. Show her the guy. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Sure her the guy. He's a Filipino guy. Okay, so whenever Mina says this guy looks like you, I start off offended and then begrudgingly admit that she's right.

Right. So I'm going to Google Miss Rachel, Filipino guy. It's going to go up immediately. Let me see. Show me to me, Rachel. If I grew like a... I mean, hot, Pablo. We got to stop doing that.

That's hot, Popolo. We got to stop inventing Hotter Me's. We got to stop labeling... I'll tell people to stop... The Gary Streiskees of the world. The only person I've banned from this program for being... Hoblo. Yeah.

Hoblo. I regret this episode already. No, you don't. I have... I've missed this. We haven't done this since the pandemic. The three of us? I think so.

I mean, certainly on this show. I think we've certainly seen each other in life. Yeah, yeah, of course. Again, we talk about our kids and then you show up late and we pivot to what we're doing. Because I like to miss that part. It's on purpose. It's by design. Get that shit out of the way.

Should we start with a very visual game? Or do you want to get into some of the stories that I think we're all legitimately into? What should we do? I just did mine marrying the same outfit Hello, hello Katie Nolan host of casuals A new podcast for all of us to like and subscribe Not on YouTube yet, everybody's very mad about

I've not been invited I've merely just been waiting So Ena's booked Awkward because I'm booked I'm unbooked and unbizzy Oh shoot I'll make sure that we fix that Well that's now very sad

Katie what did you bring us I brought an article from the Atlantic because I'm I'm fancy. I'm a fancy lady who reads the Atlantic. It's about how we're not partying enough. Basically, you know, a conversation we've been having a lot is about how people don't have friends or we're not seeing each other ever since the pandemic or all these other various cultural factors are affecting how often we're seeing and interacting with our social circles. And this piggybacks off of that and says that America is in a party deficit. They cite the fact that Party City is closing, a place where you get all of your...

Which is a massive story. Oh, no, it's a massive story. It's a massive story. In fact, can I just explain how massive this story is? Because I was looking for the news coverage of Party City's demise. And we did find this. It appears the party is over for Party City. Party is over for one business that specializes in just that.

Parties. The party's over for Party's over for Party. City. The party's over for a popular supply store. And we have breaking news. The party is over for retailer, Party City. The company told corporate employees on a call today the business would be winding down operations immediately after nearly 40 years. And today would be their last day of the largest supplier of mylar balloons, disposable plates, other things that we need. Streamers. Done. Done. After 40 years. The party, you could say, is over. over. Okay, so I think this article is interesting. I will say the party city is closing as

I know. Party. It's like it's, yeah, but no. Who has ever thrown an adult party and gone to party city? It's honestly, purely the Provence of Children's events and despery bribes. Yeah, it's like goody bags. It's where you go to get all the little stuff to put in a bag that nobody's going to want. How dare, how dare both of you? Yeah, we did though. I don't know where you get balloons anymore. Only 4.1% of Americans, a attended or hosted a social event on an average weekend or holiday in 2023. This is a 35% decrease since 2004. I mean, look, there are a lot of articles now where it's like, did you know that only

1.7% of Americans have smiled this year? And it's like, fuck, people stop smiling. But this is an article that resonates because the whole notion of people throwing parties for each other has like objectively declined. It's happening less and less. And we are, Mina, you are headed to the party capital of the sports world very soon. Yeah. Super Bowl week is a big, big party week. For me, I am definitely bringing down that average because I don't go to many parties anymore. I don't think you guys can speak to your own experiences. outside of children's parties, which are beginning to happen, which is a whole separate thing.

Children's parties, though, I got to say, and Pablo, you could speak to this more. They're really adult parties because I guess that. You've seen in L.A. as such. Everybody now has to go to every party. That's different. So when we were kids, it was like, ooh, like a big, like who's invited? You got to invite all the kids. Now everybody's got to go to every party. Everybody gets a trophy, yeah. Which means every weekend, you just see the same parents and you sit around drinking beers at like 3 p.m., watching your children.

just like rip each other apart. And I got to say, I love it. My husband and I were talking about this. We're like, this is the dream. We're just sitting around making small talk with like a set designer from Pasadena, having some, you know, hard seltzers, eating their home state tacos.

I love it. But the Super Bowl thing is a big deal for me because I don't go to like late night drinking type parties except for like three times a year at the Super Bowl, the Combine and the draft, which are unfortunately in succession. So it's like a very intense, it's like the closest thing in my life to like those Alabama sorority rush weeks where by the end my liver is like, because I'm so unused to partying that hard. My philosophy on the children's birthday party, first of all, either you got to make it under an hour or like an hour or less or it needs to be equipped for parents to just hang out and talk.

And I am so appreciative for these like, what do you? what do you call them? Like these like bouncy floored like, oh, you can have the kids just like run around, like tornadoes and then we're done. Yeah. And then we're done. But the thing about like the party as an institution is that it seems like

even the young people are wondering. There was again, the anecdotal evidence here six months ago on Reddit. Someone asked one of the quote, saddest questions anyone ever seen on the social platform, which was quote, did anybody else think there would be more parties? question mark, end quote. And the way we grew up and the movies we see,

yeah, I feel like that's, that's, it feels like that is not happening in the way that the TV shows had promised us. Yeah, like, I feel like in my ideal world, it's, in a lot of ways, it isn't like this, but it's like madmen, you know, those, that party he throws where they've got that, like, remember in that era, the, like, sunken-in living rooms

that have, like, the little step down, and everybody just has a good, cocktail. Yeah, and it's just like sitting and chat. That's my dream is if socializing men, everybody just came to my house and we just sat around and watched and talked and mingled. But I also just feel like, and maybe this informs what's happening, or maybe this is just my mental illness. But I feel like inviting somebody over, especially in New York City, is a cop out by me. I feel like it's me being like, won't come to my house? It's like, no, of course they don't. They're in New York City. They want to go out to a bar or a restaurant.

restaurant or a, and I'm like, well, I just come over to my house. A hundred. And, like, sit around and watch, like, sports and control the volume ourselves and, like, order some food and hang out. But that feels like an, I don't know, that feels like a cheap. It's like, get up. Get dressed. Leave, Katie.

Get out of the house. But I would love if people, we, I'd throw a party every week if you guys would come over. I would come over. I love house parties. So, but, okay, so the house party, I should say, I grew up in New York. Not a fucking thing.

Not a real thing. So much about New York apartments that they're too small to have people over. And so my view of like the house party really was just like, when I got to college, I got a sense of like, oh, this is what that's like.

But I never actually experienced or hosted anything or attended anything like that. Never, never. No one's parents were back in the driveway and we had to rush to, there were no driveways. There were no driveways.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I grew up in a major house party high school culture. Not that I was invited to many of them. You have to throw them. Your parents have to go away. You have to throw them. And then everyone shows up and they still don't talk to you. That's my experience.

They're just here for the house. Speaking of that, they're just here for the house. Once, one weekend, when I went to Washington, D.C. to be a presidential scholar, my parents went with me. And my brother famously through like the biggest housewoman. party our town had ever seen at our house. And it was like the kind of house party that people talk about for years. Like da-da-da. And he, so my brother was a lot of cool with me. He took photos of everything in the house. He hired professional cleaners. So we come home and it's like nothing

has happened. So my parents come home from this like nerd thing I went to with me. And we're walking through the house. And my mom, some of times she's just like, something's off. And she noticed, like, the smallest, tiniest difference, something had been moved, and my brother cracked immediately when she called him out on it. I recently did wonder while I was just unable to sleep one night recently. Like, could I recreate my entire living room from memory? No. I could not.

No. I could not. No, my memories are shit. Oh, so the point, my point was, partying. We need to do it more? Well, that's the takeaway from this article, is that, like, if we all threw two parties a year, That's the action item. America would be in a better place.

Yeah, lucky for you. My birthday is next week. So get started. Are you going to have a party? I don't think so. I don't know. Look, I haven't worked in a while and I'm working a bunch now. So I'm like, I don't know, if we're going to have a party, it's just going to have to happen to me.

I'm not going to be, I haven't put any thought into it. But I technically was born. I do throw myself a birthday party every year. You should. Everybody should. I think it's like an excuse to bring your friends, even if they're not all friends, with each other necessarily. It's like a...

This is my favorite part about adult parties if I'm the organizer is watching people from different worlds speak to each other and like very... Yeah, that I enjoy that.

Are you renting like a venue? Some... I have in the past. I'll get like a room at a bar or... But we do house parties for me a couple years ago before I got pregnant.

Rager. Absolute rager. I've never been to a party yet. I was at a wedding. recently with Mina and she got hammered. Nice. I love that. Irrelevant story.

It's entirely relevant. It's the one topic where it is relevant. No, it's not because it's not. It wasn't really a party. It was a wedding. Weddings are different. Weddings are the ultimate party. But it's like they're not really,

they're a separate thing. They're their own thing. One thing I did, by the way, that tells you that you have no evidence. Had you know she was hammered? Because I was talking to her. And she was saying. And she said That's not how I sound

Damn slurring No, no If anything I am incredibly nice And overly compliment They can't stop my homes They're trying to go too deep They're not able to do too deep

No no no no no What? That's a horrible impression First of all Secondly, if anything I was like Pablo you're doing great Everything's great

But we don't say it enough. I really do love you. I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud. I'm sure it was closer to that. There was a lot of slurred positive reinforcement now that I think about it. That's great. That's ideal.

People would pay for that from Mina Kahn. Mina, what did you bring us clear-headedly to discuss today? So it's not one story. It's obviously just more like a broader news story that's being written about a great deal. But I am curious to hear guys' thoughts on the TikTok ban, which as of this recording, TikTok is available because the president of the United States signed an executive order, basically delaying the ban, pardon me. It's unclear to me, even after reading about 20 articles, what is legal and what's not in terms of whether or not he can actually stop it,

because this was something that Congress passed a law, the Supreme Court. By the way, like, just to, for folks who haven't followed it, I guess I should lay out, the reason why Congress did so is this belief that a foreign government shouldn't control, like, a major U.S. media outlet. It's less about actually propaganda and more about their ability to collect information, and you can collect a whole lot of information on people based on TikTok usage. And the crazy thing that happened, too, is like, we live in a world which Congress doesn't agree on anything. The Supreme Court doesn't agree on anything. It was like unanimous, right?

So both sides of the aisle were like, yeah, this seems bad. The Supreme Court was like, yeah, this is probably a bad idea. So just that's the backstory for people to know. Full backstory. It was Trump's idea originally. Exactly. Sorry, I should have mentioned that. When he was the 45th president.

Right. And then 47, very much indiscreet. Now he saved it. Yeah. Well, and so now he likes it because, and he's asked about it, he likes it because he's like, young people love it, and I'm popular on there. A reporter asked him at a press conference, why did you change your mind about TikTok?

And Trump's quote was, Because I got to use it. And remember, TikTok is largely about kids, young kids. If China's going to get information about young kids, I don't know. To be honest, I think we have bigger problems than that. We do have bigger problems. I mean, not wrong, not wrong. Yeah, well, actually,

Also incoherent. Well, that, for me, that was kind of like, in some ways, my experience of this story over the last week was, I was a little, first I was a little bit put off. I'm like put off by the fact this was like the biggest story in America on a moment when things that I felt were much more significant were happening, other executive orders, other things. But, you know, I think as I've kind of read more, or not read more, but thought more about it, I do think setting aside the legality aspect of it, I would like to hear your guys' thoughts on, I don't know, whether you think it's like a bad or a good thing, I guess, if it goes away. Katie? Yeah, I'm... You use this.

You among us are clearly the most power user. And I have like 9,000, like, disparate thoughts on it that, like, don't all... So, number one, I think a lot of the narrative about TikTok is, like, it's just stupid dances. And I feel like we are glossing over a lot of the... value that TikTok provides. Like, I feel like people were very, oh, I don't use TikTok. I'm not a child. I'm not dancing on the internet.

And it's like, sports ball. There's a lot of people who like run businesses on TikTok. There's a lot of like interesting commentary on TikTok, musicians that you would never have heard of that you know now because of TikTok. Like it's, it is what it is. It's a social media app. it is a center for brain rot, but it is also, like, it's, it has,

let's not, like, paint it with a broad brush and say that it's just, like, garbage. Like, it's, they all are then in that case. Do you agree that TikTok and its popularity is rooted in this branding, that it's the one social media app where you actually tend to feel good? Like, that seems to be, it's joyous, it's fun.

I think the comment sections in my experience tend kinder. I think when they, They are mean. They can be very mean. But I do think my first reaction when I first started scrolling through TikTok was that, like, whoa, the comments are like hyping this person up instead of bullying them. I will also say it's a place where, like, I know that the government's issue with it, mainly, as you said, Mina, wasn't the propaganda aspect of it.

But it is a place where you can hop on and share your opinion. And it's possible your opinion is being influenced by these opinions. that are being put out there by people that have nefarious means. You can see how it could be used as any media could be used to spread propaganda effectively. Right. So, like, part of my understanding was that TikTok in America was very different from TikTok in China. And that we got the version that is far more brain rotting than the one in China. And that, to your point about, like, is it corrupting its user's health in some way? I can see the argument there.

That made sense. When it comes to, like, privacy, though, which is another big plank in this sort of argument, it just feels like nobody cares. Yeah. Like, as much as it is on paper, a really important priority, nobody cares. Yeah, I think kids were born into a world where that's everything. They just watched an inauguration where the owners of all of the social media were with the president. Including the TikTok CEO. Right. And you're like, okay, so the government's always got my data.

Kids care so little that when they got rid of TikTok for a few hours, they downloaded an app officially owned by the government of China to replace it. But, Meena, the whole thing about like kids, it's also adults who just, I think, are like, we are so far gone. Yeah, like, we're not losing sleep over this. And so who's actually fighting for the banning of this thing other than people who are worried about, you know, the Chinese government from a governmental political perspective? Well, that's the other side of it.

So, yeah, I think most of the legal case seems to be about the kind of data collection side, but the other side is like, you know, the Chinese government is involved in these things and they have influence over their companies and there's been a lot of studies about whether or not that's affected the actual content put out on TikTok. And I found a lot of it to be pretty convincing and incredible, by the way. I guess for me, to go back to kind of what Katie said about, like, just setting aside, again, the data side, let's just kind of cut to like, is this a net good or not bad. That's kind of what I'm thinking through. And in Pablo, you hit on something, which is, I think, a point in his favor, which it does seem like a more positive place in a lot of social media.

I guess for me, I kind of have two thoughts or two ideas in my head at once, one of which is, I think, you're right. Like, there is a lot of, like, actually, like, lovely content on there. You know, I've watched things about parenting and cooking and science and educational things. So it's not a wasteland devoid of culturally significant or enlightening content. It's there, right? But I am still so profoundly uncomfortable with the fact that so many people get, not just their news, but how they feel about major events, stories, public figures, to your point, is dictated not by facts, but by an algorithm. It's by what's popular.

And that's where I really feel like it's something. largely a net negative. And that to me kind of outweighs the good things that I'm saying. Katie, like the whole thing about we're going to lose all of this stuff, what would you have missed the most as you were contemplating TikTok being at least temporarily banned? If I'm honest, if I'm completely honest, I think what I would miss the most is hearing other people's drama, drama that does not affect me, but that someone else is really, fired up about. I would miss that. I would miss getting face-toff.

I've watched a lot of TikToks where I feel like I'm FaceTiming with somebody who, I don't know, and they're telling me a juicy story. And yeah, sometimes you're like, I don't really care what this is and you scroll away. But there's like something to like an average American TV. It just feels

like, and obviously everybody's putting on some, they're presenting some sort of a something so I'm not saying everyone's being authentically themselves. Yeah. But it was like where you hear from just people. Anybody can upload. Anybody can upload and it can get enough traction and can go.

I could just bump into the experiences of regular people scrolling through my phone. So wait, did it feel like that though? Is that part of TikTok's whole thing? Is that unlike Instagram where it's like tied to your, to some real account, like TikTok was sort of a more open field of video meritocracy? No, I think there probably was mechanations to it that I don't understand. put up a banger of a video, it's going to get out to more people and more people will see it, no matter who you are. So you could be a big account. But like my TikTok algorithm didn't have

any of the, like, TikTok influencers that I know of through like people talking about TikTok. But it had like just like, like, Lola Young. I don't know if anybody knows her. She's a musician that I love from England. I never would have heard her music if I hadn't had TikTok. I found Dochi on TikTok forever ago. Like that's just like, uh, that's where I like find stuff. The music is discovery. Yeah. But that question mean of like, what can you not get elsewhere? Like, what is this doing that the other places that we're all subscribed to in ways that make

us think we're all so far gone on privacy that why do we even care anymore? We have so many of these apps. Like, that part. Like, is there a unique argument for what TikTok was able to cultivate? I think Katie just made it, right? Which is like the idea of like regular people surfing a wave and that discovery you would get from seeing someone who either was just very funny. sometimes not intentionally or maybe had some kind of artistic talent that they never would have

found a platform for elsewhere. And I think that's all true. My problem is sort of that it had become sort of overtaken by one, the fact that so many people started treating it as a business and are just selling you stuff or just, you know, shoveling shit. And the fact that, you know, it has replaced a lot of traditional media in functions that I don't think it's capable of or prepare for it. But that goes beyond TikTok, of course, Pablo. That's, you know, all of social media as a news source. So I think it's just, it still does great things,

but it also became everything for people. And I think that's not a good thing. Yeah, I think that it's hard to say that this is uniquely harmful, even if it is maybe uniquely compromised by the government that had sort of co-signed it and exported it to us. But I guess the question is, would you rather have newspapers or this? Newspapers? This is where I would insert that song that you said you were going to find.

I think he's going to play something. Fair enough. Do you want me to play it? This is my other favorite thing about TikTok that I will miss when it goes away, which is the universal experience of playing a TikTok you love for everyone else. You guys are out of your mind. If that's not catchy to you, you're out of your fucking mind. That's a banger.

That's a banger. So our producers, using sophisticated artificial intelligence adjacent technology, did a bit of scouting. They found some faces from around the NFL playoffs and the outer regions they're in. And we're going to see what it's like when some people look like, I don't know. What is this? What's the way I want to say this? What's the way I want to say this?

So confused by this game. Show the first photo. Like once a year, somebody puts out NFL quarterbacks as women. Right. And then it just immediately turns into who's the hottest. Yeah. We're hot or nodding. The female versions of a variety of men involved in the NFL.

Because I looked for that list that Mina had referenced. No one had done it. And so we were the change we wanted to see in the world. Mandy Reed. Yeah. Andrea Reid. Candy. That's probably Candy Reid.

I'm not getting a candy vibe But she look friendly to you Yes Yes Yes She makes those seven layer bars That have the chocolate chips And the coconut

And the yeah yeah That's what she brings to the bake sale And she always makes more than enough Like it's a good amount of bars I think that she has lots of things That she has recipes for That have numbers in the title, like a six-chise macaroni.

Right, a five-layered dip. Andy Reid famously makes like a six-chise macaroni. Do you not know this? What we got next? Oh, my God. Here we go. Looks the same. Speaking of precocious.

This is almost identical to male c. Also named C.J. C.J. Works, I think. Catherine Jane. Catherine Jane Stroud. I'm getting high school musical. I'm getting a sunniness in her eyes. I think this person likes to dance in a group setting.

I think she's cool. I'm getting that we didn't slide the slider over far enough. I'm seeing too much CJ Stroud in this woman. This is it. This just looks like CJ Stroud. Yeah, the eyes are a little different. I think they probably gave her some lashes or something and maybe made them a little bit more like up a little like we do with our makeup,

whatever that's called. But this is still just C.J. Stroud to me. Was the hair change? Was the hair changed at all? I think a little. A little bit. I mean, just turned into a curl. Pablo, this is this thing on Instagram and TikTok that many that women use were all, it's like a filter is where you just get lashes.

And that's what happened here, right? It's like, it'll have, they always have names like light makeup or just a touch. And then you put it on, you're like, whoa. Yesified. But that, this just looks like CJ's job with lashes. Yeah. What's next? Oh my God.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we know this person. Right? Okay. So this brings me to an interesting memory that I feel like everybody has forgotten, which is, do you remember when Travis Kelsey shaved his beard and America was like, is he actually hot? I don't remember this. No, I have memory hold this. Nobody remembers this. One, like, this is pre-Taylor Swift, obviously. I was going to say, the way that Travis Kelsey was pre-Taylor Swift, I think, is also being memory.

hold just as a personality-wise. He did host a reality show. Yeah. That seemed less likable than he is now. Yes. Yeah, this person's name is Samantha. I knew that right away. I looked right at the picture and I said, oh, Samantha?

So that's, I know that doesn't rhyme with any of his name in any way. But that's a Samantha, if I've ever seen one. She's a coach of a women's high school team. Field hockey. Mm-hmm. Or softball. Yep. Part down the middle.

This gal has a big smile, but she's a bully. Wow Mina's encountered Samantha before This girl Yeah This girl Pointed out in front of everyone That my Doc Martins

Were not real Doc Martins They're from Payless Damn The stitches are the wrong color Damn What stitches, Katie? What stitches? What's next guys?

Oh my God Oh my God Oh my God, hard to look at So Who is this? That's This is This is

Senator Elizabeth Warren That's um... Snuck her into this. What's his name? That's what's his face? Pablo say his name. You're so close. I cannot tell.

Shares a first name with someone in your life. Yeah, Dan Quinn. It's Dan Quinn? It's Dan Quinn. Yeah. That's Dan Quinn. God, that's so funny. That's like a...

Yo, Dan Quinn is a milf. Can I just say that? I'm into Dan Quinn. Oh my God. So hot. I've seen this. So hot. Yeah, I'm gonna go the other way on that.

I'm gonna go on that. All of them are hot. That's not for you. You don't want to bang Patricia Mahomes. Patricia Mahomes is a little too eager. Eager? I'm getting, I'm getting, getting eager, thirst. Is this hot male Mina?

Because this is going to fuck me up. So the reason this is remarkable. Zoom into the face if you can. This is my brother. This is straight up. My brother is straight up. Huh. Interesting.

Like. the thing about that theory is that... I love that outfit, by the way. We didn't superimpose your brother's face onto your body. That's actually what the technology gave us. Why did it do that great thing on her shoulder then?

Yes, it is. Hold on, is that true? Why did it do that thing on her shoulder? Yeah, everybody behind the glass... This is... Mina, this is the AI. This is not... No, it's not. This is...

Literally took a picture of my shut up. It's not. Katie's walking up to the screen to evaluate. It's weird because her right ear is her is the left ear. It does look like you cut a picture and put it on her. Oh, it's her hair. It's trying to... For various reasons, this looks identical to Isaac Kimes.

Which, for the record, I'm not saying. Mina said it. And that's the best part. For various reasons, perhaps it's our shared DNA. Perhaps that's the reason. I've done this. We did this back with H.HQ and we did the male version. I looked a lot like Isaac. I remember. I don't think I would look like my brother at all. Well, let's see. Oh, boy. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. A nightmare.

Look at, look at him. Look at him. I see. Jimmy Garapolo. Yep. Thank you. We're getting some top notes, some top notes of Garapolo. That's a big win for you. Thank you guys. There's, there's, you know, some, some, some, make her jacked. Some Ricky Martin. Some are saying. Looks a little bit like Henry Cavill.

Wow, that now what is a lot. Now that I'm looking at it. Katie? This is weird. Sebastian Stan also, people are saying. Many are saying. But you're a Chad. I mean, this is, you're incredible.

A Tetra giga Chad. How does this? compared to your brother, Kevin. I mean, I'm actually, I kind of see it more than I've ever when I look at my brother, and I'm like, we don't look alike. I kind of weirdly do see it here, but not a lot. Not a lot. But a little, more than I usually do.

Do we have another angle on this that we can examine? It's also the same haircut I had my whole childhood. It looks incredibly. It's what it looked like for my childhood. Incredibly natural. Okay. Now, that's, I'm dating him. Wow.

That's Jimmy T. That is Jimmy. This guy. This guy, Keith Nolan, loves and deserves the finest adult film star to join him at dinner. Yeah, that's right. He wears a deep V and a necklace or two. Not bad. Okay, that's Dan as a lady.

Okay, girl. Yeah, what a sweetie. Look at Myrtle. Mertl looks completely nonplussed. It's her birthday, by the way. Happy birthday, Myrtle. Happy birthday, Myrtle. What if the technology did it to Myrtle too

And you just couldn't tell a difference It might have I think Dan looks cute I think he looks like the Not the lead but a supporting character In like a teen movie like divergence or something Like one of those movies about like the world has ended And we're all teenagers what do we do?

Oh my God A teacher my third grade teacher I'm not just saying this But like if you were to split screen this With Melissa McCarthy It would be pretty I think there'd be similarities. Pretty. Pretty. Pretty much the same.

Is that what Dan wore that night or is that not updated as well? Yeah. Did Dan wear that blouse with that jacket? She's like, look at me. Oh, my God, Pablo. Damn. Are you the hottest of all of us? I look, I look, again, Katie is a predator. We're learning. But, objectively speaking, you know, you want to protect this.

you want to protect this vulnerable creature bright eyes whole life ahead of her I think she looks sweet sorry I won't be saying anything further so as not to incriminate my that's a beautiful woman

I watch her do dances on TikTok she looks like my primary rival for valedictorian high school we're both doing you know extra studies to try to jack up our DPAs. I think we should probably stop doing this now.

The visual segment on the audio medium? Probably. This was a successful podcast. Yeah. Great. What I found out... Out of your minds. What I found out at the end of today's episode,

a Pablo Tori finds out a show about finding stuff out is that I will never take lightly Katie Nolan's vulnerability when showing us a TikTok. I know. It's a university of popular. Sorry, I'd prefer to save journalism instead of whatever the f*** that was. News papers. It's owned by Jeff Bezos. You think that the Washington Post is better.

It's owned by Jeff Bezos. They didn't endorse a political candidate. The worst is when you play one that you're like, this is so funny, and then you play it in front of group of people and they don't. It's in a whole episode of that. Yeah. This is unfortunately a recurring and genuine phenomenon. Okay, what about this then?

Listen, we all, no, don't do it. Why? I got to go, guys. I have to go do NFL stuff. Why is there a dancing small white child in front of Kendrick Lamar? I feel like. Bye. What'd you find out before you leave?

I found out that Pablo did not go to a lot of parties. Did I really find that out? Because I could have guessed it. All right, bye guys. Okay, very good. Bye, Mina. Love you. Pablo Torre finds out is produced by Walter Averoma, Ryan Cortez, Sam Daywig, Juan Galindo,

Patrick Kim, Neely Lohman, Rob McCray, Rachel Miller Howard, Carl Scott, Matt Sullivan, Claire Taylor, Chris Tumenello and Juliet Warren. Our studio engineering by RG Systems. Our sound designed by NGW post. Our theme song, as always, is by John Bravo. And we will talk to you next time.