Pablo Torre Finds Out - Share & Risk & Tell with Jay Jurden and Katie Nolan

Episode Date: July 9, 2026

Why were Taylor Swift's wedding guests and celebrity Knicks fans assigned "risk" scores inside Madison Square Garden's secret VIP database? Who was the karaoke MVP at the wedding afterparty? And would you rather test-drive the "most potent weed beverage known to man" ... or Bill Simmons' colonoscopy? Plus: Guy Fieri, Shaboozey, Polyp George, The Mike Vrabel Sliding Scale of Chivalry, The Blandino Tier and fogging the glass of exclusivity.• Read the follow-up story at WIRED• Previously on PTFO: We Got Inside Knicks Surveillance — and MSG's Deep State Is Stranger Than You Think• Watch Jay Jurden's "Yes Ma'am"• Subscribe to "Casuals with Katie Nolan"(Pablo Torre Finds Out is independently produced by Meadowlark Media and distributed by The Athletic. The views, research and reporting expressed in this episode are solely those of Pablo Torre Finds Out and do not reflect the work or editorial input of The Athletic or its journalists.) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is. Tobin McGuire is a munch. He's an eater. Right after this. How's everybody doing? Sorry that I'm late. I came straight here. Straight here from a meeting with my agent.

Where they gave me a Guy Fieri Waterloo Shelter. What? Can I see this? Apple. Apple. And I said, I must try that. Waterloo. Considered making an apple prize. Great American hero Guy Fieri. Yeah, isn't he?

He's good, right? I haven't heard anything from my food network connections. Oh, of which you have many, I assume. Yeah, listen. You're all over the place. I could ask Padma. I'd be like, Padma is Guy Fierry a bad person? Damn, she's cool.

Did Guy Fieri insurrect the capital? But I don't mind if it's not. Right, I just don't want to lift it up and have you be like, no, that's too high. What did you Google? Was Guy Fieri there on January? very sexting. You know what? Talk about some dinners, drive-ins and dives.

At the Capitol, insurrection day? Let's see what it's all about, you know? Oh, let's see. On the air. Smell it. Oh. We're finding out what Guy Fieti's. Listen, I like it more than you.

It smells like, I guess it's the cream, the al-a-moat. It smells like cream soda. Zero-calorie. It's cream soda. Yeah, which I don't like. Oh, wow. I know. Apple pie cream soda.

I know. And let's see, let's taste it. Okay. Oh, no. It tastes like gum. Oh, no. So you'll hate it. Oh, no.

So I know you'll hate it. First we lose to Belgium, now this. So you brought things to sample, and there are so many things that I was contemplating doing with you guys here today. I'm excited. One of which is, in fact, a drink to sample. Let's go. Wow. I love to have a sip.

I love to have a sip with Jay Jordan. Oh, wait. I might be changing my memory. What are we doing? High Rider. Is this weed alcohol? Wait a second. Read it.

High Rider, premium THC spirit. Oh. Berry infused appears to be the flavor. And then 100 milligrams per serving? Listen, I'm very excited about this, Pablo. Let's go. High dose, zero proof, gluten-free. I don't got no shows tonight.

Let's do it. Let's do it. I got a dinner I'm supposed to... 100 milligram. per two-ounce shot is the math that is presented by the endorser, which led me to bring this to you, who happens to be former pro basketball player, which is how he is introduced on the ad, Greg Oden. Greg Oden. It says first time consuming THC, we suggest starting with one of our other high-rider lower-dose products.

Absolutely not. I have bad news. I have very bad news for you. I'm off the weed. What? Okay, so this is, I'm very actually devastated about this. I'm off the weed until at least Thursday, unless my psychiatrist is watching in which case, then I'm off the weed forever.

That's great. My psychiatrist gave me a drug test to, I assume, make sure I'm taking the medication I get prescribed because a lot of people don't and then they resell it. They sell it to me. While doing the drug test, she said, ooh, this tested positive for marijuana. And I said,

And I went, uh-huh. assuming who cares I'm high I'm high right now I'm like of course it did and she said well I you know that interacts with your medication I don't feel comfortable

prescribing to you if you're and I was like well I've been this should put your mind at ease I've been smoking weed since you've known me so it shouldn't be an issue the interaction hasn't occurred and she said I I wouldn't be able to keep prescribing you

your medication if you continue to smoke so I've been pretending to not smoke weed for the last month in the hopes it'll get out of my system so I can test clean so I can get back to smoking weed. I've been not smoking for a month. I can't blow it for this. So just to give the backdrop here, Greg Oden, and this is first brought to us by awful announcing Ben Koo on Twitter. Shut up Ben Koo. Greg Oden is a spokesman for most potent weed beverage known to man. It's 100 milligrams per shot. Most weed drinks are 5 to 20 milligrams per can. This is basically the

ever-clear version of weed drinks just date. after a judge in Ohio reinstated their legality. And the producers in the other room are saying, Hey, Jay. Yeah, I can't wait to watch Jay drink this. Come on to a chat. The producers are saying, hey, Jay, I can do the tiniest baby shot,

but I don't need... You could taste test it. Yeah, I can taste test it. I don't need 100 milligram. Nobody does. The people who need one... Doug Benson, Doug Benson here for this.

Shout out comedian Doug Binson. He put a crazy straw in this. He'd go to town. Maybe Nick Swartson. We're building the Mount Rushmore alongside Greg Oden. So far it's three faces. It's Greg Oden, Nick Swarton, and Doug Benson.

I'm thinking about the people who can handle this. Now, see, Dan might be able to, but Dan famously doesn't drink, so I don't know if a weed drink would cross some sort of a... He probably doesn't. Yeah, because all that time in Colorado, he was just around it, too, kind of passively... As always, Dan Soder. As always, Dan Soder.

Yes, sorry, I should say. Because there are many times where I'm like, in bed, I turn to Dan, and people go, she's sleeping with David. Dan Levitard? As someone who dosed Levitard with the tiniest we'd comey at my wedding and watched him go on a journey of self-discovery through our wedding photos. Yeah, he would not react the same way. That is, first of all, that is hilarious.

That is funny. Secondly, I will taste test it. Yes. I will do the tiniest taste test. We have shot glasses provided by High Rider. All right. Thanks, guys. Why does it have to be milky, first question?

Yeah, visually, for those who are only listening, it is. Yeah, I just want to say, look, if we're looking at color and viscosity, happy belated pride to me again, you know? This is better than the alternative we were going to do as Jay is getting ready to taste test. The alternative was to investigate Bill Simmons's colonoscopy. Yeah. People wanted the footage, I heard.

I mean, he heard about the Jalen Brown trade while having an actual colonoscopy. The quote there, this is the other. alternate way to start the episode from Bill Simmons, friend of the show, quote, so when this trade happened at 320 Pacific time, I had a camera in my ass. Nice. And I had Paul George being rammed up my asses. He did say that. And I was like, where is he going with this?

That is not PG-13. No. That's our right. And we did request from Bill Simmons. The footage? The video of the inside of his asshole, isn't the podcast enough? Do we have the footage? No, come on.

We're saying no? All right. I'm hearing that's a no. Oh, thank God. Okay, it does smell like berries. It better. It does smell like berries. Now that's 20 milligrams right there.

There's a, okay, the first notes, weed. Yeah. The first note is weed. It's weed forward. There's a little bit more weed And then Children's Mediciney Oh

It's that berry Yes Flavor It tastes like something you would put in A syrupy Right Like a robatusin Tones vitamins

Adjacent I think you're gonna have to mix this With something I think you're gonna have to like Put this with like a seltzer or something Because once again Okay Oh

Well No It's not getting better, but it's not horrible. And that is something that Greg Oden can co-sign completely. Yeah, Greg Oden, I'll say this. It's not the worst thing I've put in my mouth over the past couple of months. Nice. It's not the worst.

Put that on the bottle. Yeah. It's Photoshop that, put that on the bottle. And I guess I'll get high from this later on. Who's begging to get high from a drink? What's the market for this for one shot to, knock you on your ass from weed. I'm about to go in for my colonoscopy.

And I got to get right. Well, you know, it is probably. You want that third eye. Fully open. Dylated. That's what you need. Imagine. No, what if you boof this?

And that's when you put it inside of your asshole. That's when you put it in Bill Simmons' asshole. That's right. Like Paul George. What if the camera footage is Paul George? A little Paul George Dancing around A very different product

A very different endorsement God that's funny Oh my I didn't So one thing about On Twitter The Jalen Brown trade Happened

A little bit We're a little bit We're a little bit We can talk about a little bit Katie We can't just talk about This weed All the time

On Twitter A lot of people Were being like He's being Traded because he's too Revolutionary I was like, well, okay, he's, he likes the Twitch stream. He's not really, like, seizing the means of production.

He's not going, he's not going to, he's not like going to. Well, he is seizing the means of producing his own live stream. He's not going to, like, the NBA Players Association and be like, we got to do this kind of stuff. He's not like, actually, I don't think he was being that crazy. I just think that, like, sometimes, especially with the way media and sports intersect right now, is that if you say anything, everything, everything, that happens you after that, we do get to say, that's why they did it. We could say, oh, that's what happened.

And it might not have been the case. I think that one fundamental issue with Jalen Brown was the Celtics had this decision when they were like, all right, so we're going to end up disagreeing with how much this guy thinks he is worth over time. Yeah. And so is this going to get harder or easier? And they decided, let's give Katie Nolan a bunch of fun draft picks in Paul George. A bunch of fun draft picks?

It's like two, four picks and they're not soon. Wait, was Katie mentions the trade? Is that with the official? Yeah, I actually got traded. I got traded away. Oh, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. Oh, we do have a colonoscopy video. Let's roll it.

What is this about to be? If it's the from the bathtub, I swear to fuck God. Oh my God. Oh! Oh! Oh, my God. ...goal back through a normal healthy colon that's very well-prepped. And you see this bump that...

Oh, my Lord. That polyp up looks like Adam Silver's head. Pallop George? Is there anything there? Polip George? I think there's more there than anybody was expected. Wow. Oh, they're going to take that out.

They're going to take that out, send it to Boston. Oh, my God, what is this, Pablo? What are you showing us? What snuff film is this? I feel like we got to blur this in post. I don't know. This is, I mean... This is not something I needed today.

They're drying it nicely with that little pipette, though. It's doing a good job. surrounding the bottom piece of that polyp, we're going to now close that snare and the patient feels nothing of this as this is being done. Whoa. Are we seeing the pallet removal in real time?

Yes, we are. Yes, we are. Pablo, is this from your dad? Where'd you get this? This is from the American College of Gataranterology. That was like you guys showed us a pimple about to be popped but not popped. If we were going to see the lance around the thing,

I'd like to see the actual removal of the polypum. I thought the most graphic thing in the day would be the c*** weed drink. I really did. We haven't even hit our first break yet. And we went straight down in there. So I should say, for the record... Why aren't you drinking any of it? I am doing journalism.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I tasted it. And it hasn't nothing... I should say that Bill Simmons said, quote, I think that violates some sort of HIPAA rule, end quote, when I asked for his colonoscopy video. Mm-hmm. Actually, technically it does not

because he's not a doctor. So if Bill Simmons wanted to send you his colonoscopy video, that wouldn't violate HIPAA at all. That would be a different kind of violation. You can tell him I said that. It would be a different. And tell him I didn't fall for it

when he said he was at Taylor Swift's wedding. I saw everybody last night going, Bill Simmons still got it. He convinced us he was at Taylor Swift. No, he didn't. It was so obvious he was lying. What are we doing, everybody? Reading comprehension.

I saw someone last night who was at the wedding, I think. Nicky. She was. She was at the end. She was doing some time at the stand. And I walked in and she was on stage in the upstairs room because she was running to a different set. But also her, she looked great, very funny stuff. She looked very normal. She didn't talk about it. So I have also, I've been doing some, some reporting. Or are you finding out? I'm trying to find out. Who's there? Okay. Just like what it was like. Who's your favorite person on the guest list? Oh, I don't know. I have one and I think it's shared by others. Who? Ooh, Dean Blanino. Oh, yeah, okay. I brought him up because I was like, who's the fuck?

Do you know who Dean Blandino is? No. No. No. Fox NFL rules. Used to be the head ref for the NFL also dipped his toe in stand-up comedy. This is. He did?

Yes, he did. He did. Has a tight five? But former, former. He may have. Not associated with the league anymore. He's now a former ref. No, I know.

If he were still current, would it be allowed? I don't know why not. That's a great skin. Can reps go to wedding? I don't know It'd be weird to invite one, certainly Because then you're kind of like, hey man Yeah, everybody's my way

Yeah, yeah, yeah The minute they're mic'd up Hey man, I brought you my way It shows how bad I am with conflicts of interest Now in sports where I just go like Well, everybody can do everything I don't see why that'd be a problem You can't

I don't see the issue, Jay You can't bring her out Like Sean Hoculie was at Taylor's wedding Yeah That is a massive That would actually make a lot It's kind of like inviting the entire hosts of Good Morning America to your wedding.

It's like, why would you do that if not to have them discuss your wedding? And I mean, they closed off all of the garden except for all of the pictures that we saw on the inside. So who was leaking the stuff? Have you discovered this? I also feel like it's AI. Like, I don't know if anything is real or not. There's a bunch of fake stuff.

But then there is some stuff that's real. I think so. What is real, according to my ongoing reporting, is that this thing went to, like 5 a.m. Whoa. And there was karaoke. Okay.

In that room is crazy. Because if you get up there and you're not a singer in front of all those people to sing. And I was asking like, so who's, who was like the karaoke MVP? And the response was besides Taylor. Okay. Of course. As you should, respect for the bride.

Apparently Fergie was awesome at karaoke. I don't believe that. I believe that. Wild Orchette Fergie, back in the date, not All-Star Furgy. If Fergie, if she was in her right mind and it wasn't the, Star-Spangled Band, I think she probably crushed it. If she wasn't doing flips. She has that amazing video of her doing flips when she's singing.

Isn't that Pink's thing, though? Yeah. And now she gets to host the Tonys. Katie, did you, when you were observing how Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey did their wedding, were you inspired? To plan my own. No. To invite a thousand people?

To invite entire morning show hosting. Apparently, it is the easiest part is to get that guest list up. It runs away from you very quickly. And so I have. had certainly thought about like, okay, when Dan and I get married, like, where do we cut it off? A lot of Dan's closest friends are incredibly famous people. Same kind of, I guess. I've got some famous friends, although not famous enough to get us into a party, it can.

No. Katie and I were in France, and we're fogging the glass of exclusivity. We were trying to get in to watch the France match. Nobody was showing it. And then they were like, we can't let people like you in. Whoa. I don't know what that means. He has a Pulitzer.

And so, yeah, it made me nervous about our guest list. And I was like, maybe we should start writing it down and seeing who we would invite and who we wouldn't. And then leaking strategically. Because it's that, it's that like, that first circle, second circle, that third tier is when it starts to get. Right. They call it the Blanino tier. Yeah. I've seen Blanino not getting the invite to Arnep schools, I'll tell you right now.

Was the Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey wedding tiered? Were there people who got bad? There are people who had great seats and people who had okay seats. Where was Mike Vrabel? That's what I'm asked. Did you see the video of him getting in the car with his wife? No. If you're PR for that situation, you would be going, okay, so you and your wife are going to be at Taylor Swift's wedding.

People will be taking videos or whatever. Just make sure you show a lot of, what's the chivalry? You're very chivalrous. Oh, look at my wife who I love. Your jacket on the ground. Totally. But instead, it's a video of just him walking, opening the door of the car and getting in. And then her trailing behind him.

Okay. And that entire saga, there were, so once again, online, because I know so many gay people who also like football, some of them were like, hey, man, let, hey, just let people cook a little bit. And then some people were like disgusted to a degree where I was like, well, okay, you can be mad and you can voice your opinion. But now I'm starting to think you've been wronged. And that's why this is so upsetting to you. It's very public and very messy. But like at this point, if you go to a wedding, you do kind of have to put on the best front. Yes. Yeah. The take that I had is I've been in this very specific car-related circumstance, Mike Vrable. I have gotten into the car first because my wife- Oh, Pablo.

Clarify. You cheated on your wife? No, no, no, no. Clarify. I have cheated on my wife. I got to get a reporter. We've all been there. Allegedly, I should say.

I got to get into the car first because my wife's going to climb over a seat in a dress. Yeah, totally. Here's the thing. Had you and your wife just very poised? publicly gone through something? No. And so you would think at least fake it, overly fake it. Meanwhile, Diana's getting hounded on whatever cruise ship she's on.

Everyone's just taking pictures of her and her children. I'm sending them to TMZ. And Frable's like, I'm not going to hold the door for my wife. TMZ really turned everyone into a rogue photojournalist. Ugh, yuck. Which, I think, why'd you want to curse? People got mad. She probably can't leave her house.

still people online it's like here's a thing the the way the internet has become so segmented now it's like you can be served the stuff that makes you mad i know i personally actively go i'm going down a road that's going to affect my algorithm let me pull back i'm clearly being served this because they want me activated and angry but there are people who are not doing that work and so they're being served this stuff that makes them angry and because they never refuse it they just double down on it. So there are communities online that really think that when the NFL season starts back up, like all of the things Diana has, they wanted her vote taken away for the NFL awards, there are communities that are fully still every day posting about this drama.

What? Like, when is the NFL going to take action? And it's, they're not rooted in reality, but those are actual people that are alive that are still this invested in this drama. You know what those people need. Yes. They need some high rider very infused premium THC spirit. High dose. Zero proof. Gluten free. How are you feeling, by the way? Anything with this? Yeah. No. What if you did a little bit more? I can't drink any more of the weed. And I'm gonna keep calling at that. Come on. It is that. It's crazy. It's crazy. I'd be doing it with you. I genuinely, I feel bad. I would be doing it with you. I just. No, no, no, no.

That bitch doctor. Won't let me have any fun. At one point she goes, why are you smoking weed? And I just looked at her and I said, because. Because. What do you mean? Why? You got to have a reason?

Oh, my God. Sometimes I want to watch it invincible. I don't know. So I can relax at the end of the day. And then you also did the Elphaburon in response. And you get super high. She's wearing green, folks. That was perfect.

Oh, thank you. It was also falsetto. I cheated. All right. I suppose that I should acknowledge that part of the through line in all of this is that we are living in something of a surveillance state. Yes. We're always being watched. And as we discuss Madison Square Garden and this wedding and watching who's going in and who's going out, I do want to point out that what I have been reviewing here without your knowledge is an exclusive first look at a new story that is publishing on the same day as this episode over at wire.com.

because we collaborated here, Pablo Tori finds out, on an investigation into the deep state of surveillance at Madison Square Garden. Oh, yes. Yes, I've heard about this. Co-written by Noah Shackman,

the story does detail that there was a trans person at the center of at least one chapter of that story. And so this follow-up reveals the existence of a database. And this database is part of a much larger trove of documents published last month by a hacker collective. so I'm not co-signing the hacking or the hacker collective, but they're known as shiny hunters.

404 media was the first to break the news on that hack. And the VIP list that has been released, I do want to share with you guys. And I should also, for legal reasons, read from Wires' new article, quote, a class action lawsuit claims that this spill of private data was a byproduct of Dolan's growing surveillance state. A representative for the garden did not respond to a request to comment,

end quote. And we hear a public tour finds out, reached out to MSG for a previous episode aforementioned with Wired, and they gave a statement that the magazine's reporting was, quote, built on false misleading on unverified allegations, including claims drawn from lawsuits filed by rapacious litigators. And quote, repatious. Rapacious.

But what we have here today, as we go deep into this reporting, is new insight about the extent to which MSG has labeled its, frankly, loyal celebrity fans with a risk score. Whoa! And reportedly why. We are now presenting this level of detail about the 39,540 or so entries in the so-called talent database. 39,000? Which tracks bold-faced names and business technology, politics, media, and sports, along with their guests.

Wait, so none of us made it because they didn't reach out to me for comment. Charles Oakley, is he just on a piece of paper by itself that says, no! Is that? What they have here in this system is about 400 celebrities assigned a risk score. And if you're wondering, what is the scale like? Yeah. Well, the first, and we'll start in... Least risky.

Exactly, right. It's called just flag. You're flagged. Okay. The least serious. It's an indication to discuss the VIP with a supervisor. And then you go up one level and you get to actually a tier on which five of the publicly identified attendees at Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's MSG wedding were marked.

This is low risk. Ooh, ooh, I want to guess them. Okay, so these are people who they're in the MSG system, but they were also invited to the wedding by Taylor or by MSG? Well, they were, I believe, invited by the happy couple. Okay. And congrats to them, by the way. Yeah.

I'm so happy that they finally get to f***. That's beautiful. That's wonderful. Yeah. People don't wait no more. Her music, she comes out, her music is completely different now that she's finally. Taylor Swift sounds like the weekend now. That's what everyone said.

What the fate of Ophelia? Everyone was like, oh, you don't get it. He's really fucking her. Now we can get, Taylor, if you're listening, I know she listens. You know, if you want to win me back, make some nasty-ass music. Make some city girl music, Taylor Swift. Make some fucking strip club music. That's what I want.

Make some polyp excising. Yes, totally. Yeah, some in the butt music. In the butt. Okay, so five guests that were invited are the second tier of risk. So who has been marked as low risk among the approximately 1,000 reported attendees at this wedding? Ice Spice. Okay.

New York. I love that. Good for her. Because she's been kissing tomm, why. You see that? What the fuck is that about? What the fuck? Yes.

Allegedly. I'm learning from Pablo. Her rep says they were sharing a vape. Oh, I like that. But that is not what that looks like to me. Also, Toby McGuire, you vaping in 50? Toby. He's doing a lot of 50.

Toby. Toby McGuire with Ice spice. That's like a super New York thing to do. Yeah. Kick up with Ice Spice. Yeah. Can you imagine kissing Ice Spice while you're upside down? See?

That's what I'm saying. They should have done that. If you're going to kiss Spider-Man, at least come out of them. At the white party, that's what's up. Man, good for her. Can you imagine that sentence? five years ago of like just Ice Spice and Toby McGuire kissed at Michael Rubin's white party. Watch this. Even crazier. Imagine knowing this sentence, Tobin McGuire is a munch. He's an eater.

Allegedly? Allegedly? Organic webbing. It's all over the place. Okay, so Ice Spice is low risk. And when we say low risk, again, it's kind of a misnomer because it is the second level of risk in the system. Ice Spice was at the wedding. Okay. Selena Gomez. Okay. Risk. Yes. Why is she risky? We don't know.

She's brand safe as hell. No, I know what it is with Selena. Because if Selena comes, then Benny Blanco's going to come and then they're going to have to blur that because you don't want to put that in front of the kids. Don't know about I need to see all that all the time. True. Benson Boone. Yeah.

Speaking of guys who flip. Yes. Yes. Once again, a risk. We don't know. He tumbles for you. Yeah. I should clarify that what we do know about the list as,

as a concept is that this is what Wired Magazine says, according to a source with knowledge of the matter. They say that Garden Security has performed a social media sweep for prominent people looking for complementary tickets to games. Free takes. If you're a celebrity

and you're marked with a risk score, even as a low risk, it means, quote, you've done something in the publicity world, the social media world that has caught the attention of the wrong people, end quote. And so this talent database has entries dating back to December of 2012. and includes updates as recent as early June of this year.

Whoa. So prominent people are looking for complimentary tickets and they do a full social media colonoscopy. They're so famous that is the sweep just like their music and their movies? We cannot speak to their judgments. What did Benson Boone tweet back in the day that his old tweets are coming back up? Yeah, I feel like... Or what Instagram posts caught the eyes of...

Jim Dolan Security Force. This is crazy. Who else? Michael Strahan. Flagged. Oh, all right. Thanks for what. And the fifth member of the Swift Kelsey 5.

Actor Mariska Hargate. Wait. That doesn't make any sense. Nick's royalty Mariska Hargat. Now here's where I would agree with James Dolan. Okay. Would be if they flagged her because. she spent a lot of time with the Lakers,

and I would be annoyed by that if it were my team and you were coming in here being a Knicks fan and you were like just five days ago rooting for the Lakers. Well, one of the things that you learn as you go through this list is that a lot of the super fans from like the parade, they got tagged as low risk,

the second highest of the rankings. So, for instance, E.D. Falco, also on there. Okay. What? Tracy Morgan, also on there. Well, that's because every time Tracy Morgan, talks, he threatens to him in somebody. He always like, you know, I don't pull out.

Every Tracy Morgan interview, he's talking to everyone. He did threaten to impregnate the Statue of Liberty. Exactly. Because he's old school. He don't pull out. Katie, I don't know if he knows. He's old school. I didn't know he doesn't pull out. Even Ben Stiller got flagged.

So everyone has some form of risk, I would assume then. Who's spotless? Who has... Well, no... No Timothy Shillamy? Did he not go to the wedding? I don't think he went to wedding. Let's go to medium risk. Okay. Oh, we get, I didn't know. We're going up. Nice. I like this.

Me too. This is a fun game. What if you took another tiny sip? It's some left in here. Being legally advised by the producers behind the glass to say, don't do that, Jay. Oh, don't take another little sip. Okay. Well, you know. He did, though. Hey, it still tastes like weed. Nice. Medium risk.

The actor, Lily Allen. Whoa, okay. And her ex-David Harbor. Actor? We're doing an actor? We're going She's a singer. Yeah. Actress. Do you don't know who Lily Allen is? I believe she's an English singer-songwriter and actress.

Oh, okay, fair. I mean, what was she in? Probably, like... But that husband, that husband, that husband, he's high-risk. Yeah. That husband? Well, they have a risk for a while. He is a medium-risk.

He is a medium-risk to her. That's crazy. That's crazy. If she's medium-risk, he's high-risk. You get David Harper in the MSD? He's going to try to f*** everybody. Allegedly. Morgan Wallin.

Yeah, that's high-risk to me. That's high risk. Don't invite him in it. I can't believe how many people are just loudly like I love Morgan Wallen. I thought we were, I thought we shamed that out of society. You put a microphone in front of Morgan Wallen. He's saying some stuff. You put a chair on the balcony in front of Morgan Wallen.

He's throwing some stuff. Medium risk. Higher risk for Morgan Wallen. And that's a hot pink center is medium risk. That's crazy to me, Morgan Wallen. Condé Nast, Chief Content Officer, Anna Wintour. Oh, yeah.

Medium risk. That's crazy. Imagine being like Anna Wintor and Morgan Wallen are the same risk. Now, here's the craziest one to me. Mm. Is, I think this is, this is shocking. Fat Joe. Yeah.

Shocking, let me explain. Shocking because he could not have been more complimentary of James Dolan during this whole next championship run. I believe he compared James Dolan to Batman. Don't do that. He was so, so effusive about how awesome Jim Dullen has been to him. And what apparently, according to Wyatt's reporting, apparently the reason why Fat Joe was flagged is because of his connection of one of my favorite people in both the world of music and in podcasting,

Jada Kiss, who had been critical of Dolan in the past. Oh, so being critical of James Dolan can get you higher up on this list. Absolutely. Okay. That's what it. It's not actual connections to crimes or anything. This is entirely, apparently, yes, a scan of what you've said in the past and your posts. One quote that is relevant to our understanding is, quote, it seems like he's always happier.

He being James Dullin, always happier when the team sucks. That's what Jada Kis said back in 2020. So us doing this is already putting us. We're never going to get it. This is how you know I've never requested. I'm either not considered a celebrity or I've never asked for free tickets from MSG because I'm at the top of the list of this.

We're never getting free tickets after we keep talking about. I've never said a nice thing about him in my life. I couldn't find a nice thing of a nice thing of said. I wouldn't do a shot of High Rider together? I will say that Jay Jordan is wearing a Knicks cap. Yeah, yeah. And as our own scan of Jay's social media accounts has indicated. Very pro-Nx.

You did write recently, quote, One exclamation point. Show you dicks, son. Yes, nice. Please. Happy pride. Happy pride.

That's why I said it. You also wrote, in all caps, fuck James Dolan. I did write that. That did happen. Oh, oops. I forgot. Probably in the, hey man, you looking so handsome sense.

I'm trying to fuck James Dolan. This is sad what you're doing. Yeah. I don't like what you're doing. I'm terrible of me to put that. What was that? On Twitter or something? Yeah.

All caps, you say. Yeah. Okay. Do we have the screenshot of the tweet? Because I feel like that could be AI. Have we talked about this? You said it shortly after James Dolan's White House visit announcement. Oh, okay.

That's, yeah, I mentioned it. You also said, quote, I think it's beautiful that everyone in New York City loves the Knicks almost as much as they hate James Dolan. I did say that. That did some numbers. That did well, I think. And don't blame him.

Blame Barry. Blame the high rider premium THC spirit. It wasn't me. It was the Greg Oden juice. Blame it on the ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, rider. He said, fuck, James Dole. Oh, sure. Sure.

Jay, why did you tweet, quote, Shabuzi Nigerian ass and said shit about ice? Three question marks. Yeah, that's true. Questions that need to be asked. That's true. You could have asked him that in person, for that brand or whatever.

So, I mean, I've just, I've started to realize, that my power on Twitter. Say, what's making you laugh so much, Pablo? What are you fine? What'd I say? There are people still playing that goddamn Shibuzi song in Texas. I'm gonna scream upside down

smiley face. This song is what? What is that song? Three years old? What is that called? Oh, Tipsy. Oh. Which is, was already a song. He deep-fried Jayquan's song. So he deep-fried it and put some Nashville hot chicken seasoning on. it. And then he wanted to pretend like it was his own song. As much as I love interpolation and

covers, it's the same song. I agree. I think a lot of people do this now. Yeah. For people to do that. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Hey, man. Yeah, I agree. But, you know, shout out James Dolan. I could never respect Shabuzi. The man only got famous from a country fried version of a J-Quon song. Thank you. Who said that? Is he wrong? Is the question? Like, was that wrong? No. Yeah. Controversial maybe, but wrong. You also have a paragraph you wrote after Shabuzi got the People magazine. Hot Guy Summer Issue. What I say?

What I say? This is one of the worst covers I've ever seen in my entire life. It looks so ridiculously Photoshop to the point that it would be funny if it was intentional. Also, Shibuzi, you have to get your team to approve final images. This makes you look bad, period. It does. Just a series of, like, actual. That's good advice, actually.

Get your team to approve the final. Look at the image. The image. The image. Show Katie, the image. He looks like he's farting. That's what it's... It's bad.

His eyes are like half-close on it. They send you final edits of things. You go, do the one where I have my eyes open. Do the one where it doesn't. It's probably... I'm a little teapot. Can they team up and get Shaboozy the Foolsy out of you, please? Yeah.

Shibu-Zoosy the Foozy. Just just... I said it. Returning us to... The high risk? Yeah, yeah. High risk. we have three names.

You'll maybe notice that there is a shared commonality and the three names they're available to share with you. They are Freddie Gibbs, okay. The baby and a boogie with the hoodie. Okay. I could not sound less comfortable. Well, now I'm seeing only rappers.

Yeah. I'm hearing the names of only black adult men who happen to be rappers. Whatever the case may be. I don't know, Freddie Gibbs, a boogie with a hoodie, Nick's fan. Freddie Gibbs, I don't think Freddie Gibbs is a Knicks fan. Who else was the other, who was...

The Baby. The Baby is definitely a Charlotte Hornets fan, famously. Yeah. So, I mean, I don't get the... Is it just a celebrity? The baby actually recently opened up a chicken and waffles restaurant in Charlotte. That's what I'm saying? He's from Charlotte.

He's a huge Charlotte Hornets fan. I don't understand why he would... He's... I mean, if he comes to the garden, he's usually going to be rooting against the Knicks. Or he's just going to be kind of neutral. Well, high risk. Didn't he have a...

Yeah, he had a bad situation where one time at a concert, he kind of like, he told everyone that, I don't know, sucking dick was bad. Is there still a duh baby and a little baby? Yes, yes, famously. Okay, I just want to make sure... Thank you for getting me caught up. Of course.

The quote from DaBaby was at Rolling Loud. If you didn't show up today with HIV AIDS, any of them deadly sexually transmitted diseases that'll make you die in two, three weeks, then put your cell phone light up. Well, up goes my cell phone light up. You continue. Ladies, if you're a f***le like water,

put a cell phone light. Now, wait, hold on. Okay, my phone's going down, I think. I have this point in it. I don't know. It's me sheepishly in the back. Wait, all right. Water?

The baby is making us play, never have I ever? Water doesn't really smell like anything. It smells like berry infused. Yeah. Mine sounds like flowers, so I guess I'll take my phone down. And what's the, he continues? Yeah, and then he gets to, fellas, if you ain't sucking dick in the parking lot.

Ain't sucking dick in the parking lot. Put your cell phone light up. Put your cell phone light up. If you ain't. Oh, you're not smoking in the parking lot. Well, obviously right now, none of us are selling in the parking lot. My cell phone is not. There we go.

Hey. That was minutes ago. Now, is he against the parking lot or the gay? It's like he didn't specify. I think he probably is. against the gay. I think the parking lot, for some reason, he wanted there to be an immediacy to it. Because it can't be like, if you've never, right? I guess. Also, he said, ladies, if you're a p. Smell like water at Rolling Loud, when everyone's outside in that heat, a lot of cell

phones going down. I should say that there is another level, which isn't technically on the scale, but is labeled very definitively as do not hope. Whoa, do not host. So these people will never get complimentary tickets. They always have to pay for their tickets. So according to the reporting, one name, for instance, is comedian and longtime Nick's obsessive fan, Adam Pally. What?

Not to be hosted. He's so nice. You know why this is because of Comtown, clearly? Or maybe because Adam's in his journalist bag right now. Oh, no, you're thinking of Adam Friedland. Adam Pally Not all Adams Hashtag

What's the name of the show? Happy endings. ABC, my good friend Adam Pally. Adam Pally. How could possibly Adam Pally Wait, does Adam know this? Do not host. I don't know if he knows this.

Adam Pally is a higher risk than Morgan Wallen. Yeah, okay, yeah. Do we have other do not hosts in here? We have iconic hip-hop producer Pete Rock. Okay. Who's a fan of the team according to his Instagram account, but nonetheless, do not host. And then I want to show you the next name on screen

because it is actress model Julia Fox. Julia Fox. Well, I should say that, so in the spring of 2020, do not host. Julia Fox, a good court side in this allegedly quite revealing outfit. By early April, she was barred from getting complimentary tickets. Not really that revealing to me. They got mad about this?

This is merely the timeline assigning motive is very difficult. for legal reasons. Good, Pablo. Really good stuff that was. I'm confused. I did see a game where, but this was at, I guess, crypto arena where Lizzo had her booty cheeks out

and she got to sit, Corset. Is it because the cheeks might have been out a bit? Yeah. Julia Fox can't have the cheeks out a little bit in MSG? She's got a coat. You can sit on the coat. Yeah.

You can sit on the coat. I imagine she's on the risk list because she speaks her mind. That's hard. is a, and if you're just listening, we will say she's got a brief, a full brief on the bottom, a white brief, and then on top a high neckline tank. Yeah. And so it's, and there's a little bit of midriff showing between the tank and the brief,

but she's also got a huge, what appears to be some sort of a fur, big bird, yellow coat. Yes. I would not call this very revealing. Now, I'm not leaving the house in a brief, but that's me. There, okay, so the bottom section, is very underwear-esque. And so is James Dolan that conservative that this would be too revealing of an outfit? A question that should be phrased as a question.

I'm impressed, though, because this list, if you say or do anything, you will never get the complimentary tickets to the game is basically what's stipulated. This is the people who MSG felt the need to monitor. Okay. Because maybe they're not going to do what we want them to do in exchange for the things that we might give them. I feel like every time you learn something sort of about fame and celebrity and what it means to, like, move up through the ranks of the entertainment industry, you go, high school again? I know. High school again?

It's lists all the way down. This is a burn book. This is signing yearbooks. This is passing notes in class. There is also in this talent database an interesting other feature that we should describe. Yes. Because 93 entries are marked as LGBTQIA. What?

Wait, can I just say pretty nice from them to include the IA? You wouldn't have thought that James Dolan would know that. They said, come here, James, for a second. What are we going to do about the intersex and asexual? All right, make sure they're on theirs. Just make sure they're also discriminating. against equally biased, allegedly. Is Julia Fox labeled as LGBTQIA?

She should be. Here are some folks who are. Okay. And they're all out before you read from this. No, that's not out anybody. Phoebe Bridgers. Yeah? Yeah.

Gieces Emily. Say the letter. Yes, the letter. Okay. Geese's Emily Green. Okay. It's Ricky Martin. Okay.

Ricky Martin, yeah. Is it just so these people get prioritized announcements about Nick's Pride Night? I bet not. Is it? That is an amazing. It's a sweet interpretation. Okay, but, okay, so the MSG labels some of these tiers as LGBTQIA. They have 93 entries are marked as LGBTQIA.

That's a lot. That's a lot. I don't like this. Pablo, they don't have a pink triangle next to the names, do they? Not to our knowledge. Okay, good. I think that labeling them, and the history of what they did to that trans individual.

Now I'm starting to see some weird stuff. The lists and the existence of such secret lists and how many people are on them and what they're following. I think they raise at the very least follow-up questions from people who might want to deeply care about how your favorite sports team thinks of its fans. Now, are all of the arena's panopticons or just Madison Square Garden.

Sorry, I just found another J tweet. Yes, right, I kind of love this. The reason I don't love Taylor Swift is because, truthfully, I only have room for one messy white woman pop star in my life and her name is Aubrey Graham. Yeah, yeah, that's true. About Drake, that's beautiful.

That's funny. Recently, I even said Drake is, he's Taylor Swift for so many boys. So true. Releasing three albums and every boy's like, you don't understand the impact this has. This has also been said of Shane Gillis's Taylor Swift for boys. Yeah.

Oh, my goodness. That's, well, stadiums at the same time, everyone's kind of like in and out of their relationship. Damn. That's good. Hmm. What would I say about Taylor Swift today? I'm happy she's married. I want to, where's she on this list?

She's not, she's not risk at all? If nothing else, it seems like she is above all of us. Did she have to go to James Dolan to get his blessing? To marry the stadium? Oh, here's something that I can report, I guess. James Dolan was at their wedding. Well, yeah. Well, yeah.

What did he sit with the ICE detention center guy? Because I've been wondering who that guy had to share a table with that guy, and now it's starting to make a lot of sense. Who among us hasn't invited an ICE contractor to our wedding? This has been Pablo Torre finds out. a Metal Arc Media production. And I'll talk to you next time.