Pablo Torre Finds Out - Share & Vore & Tell with Katie Nolan and Michael Cruz Kayne

Episode Date: August 8, 2026

Sophie Cunningham brought the Riley Gaines School of Victimhood to the WNBA, and then attempted to walk it back — but not before protests, counter-protests, and all the social-media engagement that hate can buy. Also, Katie Nolan and Michael Cruz Kayne react to a troubling and unbelievable fetish map of the United States.• Subscribe to "Casuals with Katie Nolan": https://www.youtube.com/katienolan• Subscribe to "But Also with Michael and Asher”: https://www.youtube.com/@ButAlsowithMichaelandAsher • Previously on PTFO — What Is Riley Gaines Hiding? We Investigated https://youtu.be/iKUl8lkuGOc?si=nf1nnQBEppQI7BRT Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out. I am Pablo Torre. And today we're going to find out what this sound is. Tell me what Alabama's into. Is it your cousin? And is that a fetish? I'm hoping Alabama's going to go Asian. I want Alabama to be Asian. Right after this. How's your podcast going? Well, we have $50 billion. We just got a grant for $50 billion. From what? From Trump, which is fine. Like, you know, we don't care. The money spends the same. It's all green.

So if you guys are big fans of whatever I do, you can listen to my podcast, but also with Michael and Asher, which you haven't been on yet, but you will be. If you have. Now that I know where the money is coming from. Yeah. But it's not that Trump. It's a different. Oh, I should have said that.

That's from Steve Trump. Steve Trump, two peas, two R's. Trump. That's it. The rare double R. Trump. Speaking of taking money from political sources that you don't want to. admit that you took money from.

Okay. Should we talk a little bit about everything happening around Sophie Cunningham? I mean, we could. You're so tired of this topic. It just is really annoying to me that... No, there was no inciting event. There was no trans woman trying to join the WNBA. In fact, when Trump got in office again this time,

he immediately signed an executive order getting rid of not allowing any Trump, any trans athletes to play in the NCAA. So, like, we're... There's a non-issue. Yeah, in the Olympics and in the NCAA, you can't, it's all... Already done. It's all already been done. Those are the rules now.

And so now for this to become this big thing, because obviously it tests well, because obviously it does numbers online. This is a story about engagement. It sucks. It sucks because it's exhausting. And if you discuss it at all, even to just say, hey, the WMBA is a pretty inclusive space that has a lot of trans fans. And a lot of you people who don't watch the W at all,

or care are coming in and claiming to want to save and protect women's sports. Meanwhile, you're making it less inclusive and less safe for trans fans. They're feeling very attacked. They go like, and then it ruins your social media presence for a week. I haven't been able to get into any of my comments on anything because people are just commenting on everything I do that now I'm being transvestigated. It's like a, what is, it's like a, everyone's losing there. And it's also that people with the wrong idea are also in support of, like, the most flagrant women abusers in the entire world. It's like, what would have had to happen for all these big names that are usually on the other side of women's rights?

Just all banding together to save women's sports. To save the WNBA. To be able to believe that myth. Of, like, they want to save it. And also, I've, okay, sorry you. I was going to ask, actually, Michael, before we get into what I actually wanted to start our discussion with, which is a video that I don't know if it's been talked about enough. But I wanted to know if Michael's algorithm is also as saturated. I mean, we cover this issue on the show through reporting.

We've done this for years. I find it infuriating but also fascinating and certainly depressing online. Is your algorithm steeped in this in the way that ours? It's all over my algorithm. I think the two things that make me aware that it's like broken out of the normal silo in which I would think it would exist are I saw a, I don't know if this is the video you're about to show us, but a Chiron from Laura Ingram. show that said Sophie Cunningham gets called for another foul or something like that. And Laura Ingram talks ball all the time. Oh, she loves ball.

Laura Ingraham's always showing highlights. When you don't shut up and continue to dribble. When you talk and don't dribble. And so in the clip that she shows, I call the foul and Sophie Cunningham, what we're supposed to take from this is, well, the entire league hates America because this is happening. And then I also saw at some point. Jesse Waters say. Yeah, this is week three of the five covering the WNBA.

Right. And I have to say, I am done. I hate the WMBA. I mean, I don't mind women's basketball. My girls play basketball, but I don't want to cover women's basketball. I don't want to be a WNBA analyst. We get paid to have an opinion about everything. And this is something I don't care about.

Every time I open up the rundown and see the WMBA in it. I feel like Jessica must feel every day. We have to do this again, really? This again. Someone wore a T-shirt at a WNBA game. I remember when they were throwing dildos. Remember that was funny.

That's his news story. This isn't a news story. Okay? It doesn't matter. There will not be a man in the WMBA. We don't even cover the NBA. Why are we covering the WNBA? This is ridiculous. I feel like boycotting this segment. The most

honest expression of what any of these people actually feels, which is I don't actually care about the thing I'm supposed to care about right now. Which I almost respect. I hate saying that. I've never had more affection for Jesse Waters than in that moment where he's like, I can't even pretend to give a fuck about that.

As the father of daughters, I don't give a fuck about women's sports. To go out of the way to say I have two kids who both play girls basketball, but I hate the WMBA is crazy. And then if I may also take issue with the Chiron. What was the Chiron? The T-shirt that was worn just said trans kids belong, I believe. The Chiron said, Coach takes shot at Sophie Cunningham with T-shirt. All they did was actually make trans people feel more comfortable.

They weren't taking a shot at Sophie Cunningham. It's bizarrely refreshing, though, to get the old-fashioned, I don't give a fuck about women's sports take because what's currently happening is that the engagement, the incentives on the internet have led to all of these people, I mean, certainly ruining everyone's general ability to talk about the WMBA, which is happening on the internet. But also, to your point, they are creating victims here,

but it's not Sophie Cunningham who is being victimized here. It's not Riley Gaines, who took a photo with Sophie Cunningham, who's being victimized here. It's using women's sports to get engagement. It's gross. And Jesse Waters is the one guy who's like, actually, perhaps I'm too rich to give a fuck about this, actually. And I'd rather that than let's protect, let's band together and protect women.

The amount of people have told me, you hate women. And I'm like, how are we here? The Sophie Cunningham quote is, men don't belong in women's sports. It was a quote in an ESPN story that then was asked about in all these interviews afterwards. And what she likes to clarify is that I never once said that I hate trans people. I'm here to extend love. But her whole language around protect women, protect young girls against biological men, what it does, as we chronicled in this Riley Gaines investigation that we did,

is it echoes the manufacturing of victimhood for female athletes who were born that way to borrow their language that must compete against trans people, even though there are vanishingly small numbers of trans people playing sports, and therefore suffer what is the equivalent, according to Riley Gaines' own rhetoric over time, the equivalent of being assaulted, having violence waged against you. It is the criminalization of trans people in sports. And if you want to argue, this is just the little soapbox that I just need to hop on here. Please. If you want to argue that there are advantages to going through male puberty that are hard to undo,

even with an exhaustive regime of hormone therapy, which is what would be and had been previously required in the Olympics in the NCAA, you've got to go through a whole year of injections to even be allowed as a trans person to compete in women's sports, right? Even if you say, even after that, there are still these advantages, you're bigger, you're stronger, that are hard to completely undo. I get that argument. It is complicated to scientifically create a rule that,

equalizes the playing field if you went through male puberty. That is a discussion that is complicated, but there are rules that you attempt to solve it. This, though, is not a discussion about the rules. It's a discussion about saving girls from trans predators. And that's where the manufacturing of victimhood comes in because there aren't actually those victims. I think that's tricky about it also is men shouldn't be allowed in women's sports. its face, you're like, yeah. So as someone who believes in the rights of trans people, you're at a deficit.

You're starting from negative because that's a sentence where it's like, well, yeah, LeBron James shouldn't be allowed to play in the WMBA. Of course, an argument to be made that... Men are better at sports than women is the most ancient argument that men love to make. Yes. And moving anybody off of that is this total red herring that winds up being the door opening to and those same men are now praying on your girls.

It's always men and girls. That's where it became too transparent to me to being messaging. Because it's like girls shouldn't have to play against biological men. And it's like even if in this scenario they're trying to describe, if that were to happen, it would be boys. It wouldn't be men. Everything that they do in these conversations is exactly that, to put you on your heels and to make a person

who doesn't have time to think about this too critically to go, well, yeah, that makes perfect sense. 80% winning issue is the trans sports debate. It's why ads were made about it during the presidential cycle. It's why this continues to get engagement and gets hammered by Republicans who otherwise don't have time. as Jesse Waters very candidly observed to give a shit about this otherwise. It is so much based in the erasure of what they would like to do is

tomorrow wake up and there's no trans people. And where I get frustrated is I go, that's not how the world works. Once someone shares with you their experience and what their human experience on Earth is, for me, I feel it's our job as a society that's supposed to function to figure out how to make sure they feel safe and seen and addressed and that they have access to all the things that humans get to have access to. And I just don't think you can block sports and go, you can't have this. I don't think that they want trans people to not exist.

I think there's nothing better for Nancy Mace and Donald Trump, etc., etc., than the existence of trans people because that for them is like an absolutely perfect target. There are relatively few of them. It is something that's completely poorly understood by me included. Yeah. So for them, the issue being on the table is gold. They don't want it to be solved. They want the issue always on the table, even though you can't afford your groceries.

We're at 50 frickin' wars. It's let them yell at trans people. It's let them you'd kick. But the reason your factory got automated and your grandpa lost his job, is that some kid in Nebraska someplace thinks that maybe his life could be better in some way that has nothing to fucking do with you. And the vanishingly small number of athletes in these states across our country, it becomes clear when all of these states,

they tried passing bills and many of them have succeeded. And they were literally looking, if you go and do the reporting and go read the reporting, all of these state houses, all of these local legislatures are looking for the athletes to serve as the face of the problem. And in many of these states, they could not find anyone because that's how few of them there are. And that's how, by the way, afraid many of them are. And so the thing I want to focus on is not the argument of who is stronger, man or woman, because that's the landscape that they love to fight the culture war across. The argument is, where is the victimhood that you are alleging? Where is the criminality?

that you are alleging. In Riley Gaines' case, you saw over time in interviews that she did with Fox News and Outkick and Tucker Carlson, all of these people, you saw money flowing into her bank account from these nonprofit groups that are here to save women's sports,

and you saw her rhetoric change from, originally not calling the villain in her story, Leah Thomas, the swimmer that she tied for fifth with in the NCAA Swimming. championship. She tied with that? Yeah. Yes.

I forgot that. This is why it's just perfect, right? It's like if Leah Thomas didn't exist, you would have finished. Leah Thomas won. In my memory of that story. I could see why you'd think that. Yeah. If Leah Thomas didn't exist, Riley Gaines would have the exact same finishing spot,

which is fifth. And I say that to say, over time, originally, Riley Gaines' position was not this is akin to sexual assault. This is the Larry Nassar meme I'm going to post, in which I analogize myself to Simone Biles. It was not that. It was about the rules and who's allowed to compete in this division, how unfair that was, which is, again, an argument that begins to be like an actual policy question. And you can argue about that.

But over time, it becomes the allegation of criminality. And in the WMBA, most obviously, there literally are no trans athletes. Everyone is still stuck. on the Juana Man theory of what it is to be trans in America. And I hesitate to report this news, but Juana Man was, in fact, a fictional. What? A fictional film. And then today I saw Sophie Cunningham come out and say, like, hey, the WMBA media is so good

at covering everything except the basketball. I think that there's so much good going on in the WMBA. I think that basketball is being played at the highest level to ever been. I think our team in specific, we are breaking history right now with the amount of points that we're scoring on back to back to back to back to back games. I think the Minnesota game, there's just so much distraction. I think the WMBA media, all we ever do is cover everything except basketball. And it's like, what are we doing?

There's so much. Like, you can talk about other things. I think those are great stories. I think it shows fans, you know, who people are outside of the court. But I also think we got to keep the main thing, the main thing. And I think when it comes to the Minnesota game, I think there's so much distraction. But like the matchup between Miles and Kelsey. was phenomenal. Our team, I mean, that game in particular was a great game. And so I think that

there's a lot to be said. And I'm going to let people just do the speaking for themselves. But for me, I want to get back to basketball. It's always been about basketball. That interview happened in February when I was asked a question. And so for me, I just want to, you know, make sure that it stays, the focus stays where it should because people are playing at such a high level. Why does everybody want to talk about everything except the great stuff we're doing on the court? I would like us to focus on the on court stuff that we're doing here. I stated my opinion and I'd like to move on. And to that I say, and sort of to your point about how much do we think she knows,

my most generous reading to Sophie Cunningham is to be like, maybe she didn't know what she was dipping her toe into when she dipped her toe into it. But I feel like you, as a woman, a female athlete in sports, you're a little late to the conversation. You should have a basic understanding of the issue and know that this was what you inviting in to the W. That as soon as somebody holds the door open for this, especially an athlete, a current

athlete on a team that has their star, whether Caitlin Clark agrees with a lot of the stuff that's projected onto her or not, that's what she is associated with. And Sophie Cunningham was glad to hold the door for them. And once they're in, there was no way that this was ever going to go any differently. And meanwhile, Sophie Cunningham is being a UFC ringer.

with an actual guy, Katie, as you pointed out on your show, Dana White, who himself is on tape slapping his wife. So one of the things that happened, and this is where I want to establish that we're a show that wants to discuss such things with rigor and consideration for some of the most, again, threatened populations in America. Also, I want to get to the fact that Sophie Cunningham's feet became a phenomenon.

I mean, that's so predictable. Oh, because she took her shoes off to be a ring girl. This is where I mentioned that feed have been in the sports news cycle recently. Monica McNutt, getting a pedicure on ESPN. And Micah Parsons on Brian McFadden's podcast recently saying this. All right. Last question. Where does this thing about you that few people know? I have a foot fetish. A foot fetish? You like toes?

Yeah. Okay. All right. I mean, that's what you asked. Wait, how do people feel about that? I love it. He's just putting it out there. Look, I like feet. We have come so far, I think, as a country where Micah Parsons is just like, guess what I'm into? Feet.

He probably gets a million DMs a day from all kinds of people. At least he's narrowing down. And that's just hit me and like, a-o, make those feet. This is what I'm looking for. Do me a favor. Can we make those feet? I will say, I noticed, you know, the internet obviously gave us all the chance to find community where before we may not have found it, where you could go, oh, I didn't know this many.

now I can connect with anyone anywhere who's super into, let's say, Spider-Man. And I think just as a lady who has existed on the internet that people talk to whether I want to hear what they have to say or not in my mentions on various social media platforms, I will say I right away noticed that the foot fetish community found each other and felt emboldened and empowered to speak their truth. They have never been a community that has, and I'm not. even saying they should. I'm just speaking the facts that have shown any sort of shame towards their... They organize quite publicly. Yeah, and they'll be very like, excuse me, and I've even had people be very kind and respectful in telling me about their foot fetish where they're like, hey, would you ever, would you ever be open to letting me see your feet? If not, I'll leave you alone.

But I just wanted to let you know, and you go like, you know is the answer. No, I wouldn't. But I just think in a world full of scary and all the different types of stuff, that somebody could be into and foist upon me. When they are into my feet, I go, all right. Put that in the campaign ad. You know, it's like, hey, at least it ain't poop. You know, it's like you're not asking me for my poops. This takes us, I believe, as we examine the world of sports in which, of course, Rex Ryan was...

All right, also a foot guy. Have you watched? Have you not seen? We just showed this to Isabella on my podcast recently. So Dead's been found that they were like, we think this you... Oh, sorry, you got something you're doing? I'll stop. No, I just want to...

I was going to give them the tree tops of it. I think we should show him the You have it? The toe tops. Can I help you with anything? Oh, no, I'm sorry. I was just resting for a few minutes. Oh, okay.

There's no car trouble or anything? No, none at all. I'm sorry. Okay. Oh, you don't have to put your feet in. You can leave meth. Can I smell them? Oh, come on, Rex.

Oh. They might have been very sentimental. Oh, did most men like to do a lot of things with those feet? I forgot that we were doing a cosplay. It's very funny. You took a clip from Boomer and Carton. Can you explain who that was? So that's Rex Ryan's wife.

And a Deadspin commenter, I almost think, was where they got the scoop on this. They found that there was a YouTube... There's a YouTube user account that was uploading videos of a woman that appeared to look like Rex Ryan's wife. And then they heard the voice in the video and they went, I'm pretty sure that's That's Rex Ryan, which we can all tell. I believe that's New York Jets then coach Rex Ryan. And it was, yeah, basically they had been publicly uploading. What was the name of the account?

It was crucial to note that the YouTube user's name is I have pretty feet. Yeah. And so what this appeared to be was her own account posting such videos for the community. You know, it's like fetish content. That's why it's like, how did this video wind up on the internet? She posted it allegedly. She's posting it for other people to look at her own feet. That's what the Deadspin story has established.

If I had to guess what would it actually happen there, it's that Rex Ryan thought he could put things on YouTube and other people wouldn't see them. It was 2010. It was 2010. I do think they didn't realize that his voice would be identifiable, which is kind of crazy. And of course, you would have to be looking at foot fetish content on YouTube

and know what Rex Ryan's wife looks like in order to even flag that. So I could see in an earlier version of the internet where you'd go, we're safe to do this. No one will know. But this became such a thing. And again, you can read the New York Times or the ESPN, the coverage of this, because he was the head coach of the Jets when this happened.

Mr. Ryan, did you and your wife make the footage videos? All right. Well, you know, obviously I knew, you know, these questions, you know, this question's coming and things. It's, you know, this is a personal matter. and I'm not going to discuss it. Can you confirm if that was you and your wife in that video? Again, you know, this is a personal matter.

And, you know, I hope you can respect the fact that I wish not to discuss it. Is it taking your focus off the team? Perfect for a Pats fan, honestly. Katie Nolan, 4.97 on WikiFeet, for the record, Sophie Cunningham, 4.81. Why don't you look yourself up? What do you got on wiki feet? I think that's... Yeah, no results.

My feet are monstrous creations. It's not cute. What's happening down there? It's interesting, because I thought I saw that you do have a wiki feet. That is... Pablo Tore's feet now... Wait, is that five stars? Let's look at those two pictures.

Are those pictures of your feet? Are those moments that you had your feet out? You're on wiki feet, bro. Whoa, is that or is that not your foot, Mr. Tore? You're up there, bro. How dare you catch me with allegedly a beer in hand? Ew, is that your foot? That how...

Sorry. I feel like that's a totally normal foot. Do it is that your foot? Find a new sland. This is that f***ed up. I generally find feet. Feet are not an attractive body part to me. Not, sorry, I want to make sure I'm hearing you right.

Not an attractive or not unattractive. That's not someone. No one actually left this. A woman like five, but a five, nevertheless, somebody wrote. A workman like five. Sorry, workman, sorry. Oh, I didn't look on, sorry, men. Dot wikifeet.com.

Oh, why do you guys get your own thing? I have three votes. Three votes. This is the, this is the, one of them's me. I gave you a zero. This is the WNBA of WikiFeed. It's the men. com.

The person who posted that, their username was the Wallfeet Journal. The Wallfeet Journal. That's the Wallfeet Journal. The review is a workman-like five, but a five nevertheless. Workman-like. Just grabbing rebounds, guys. He's a man who knows how to use his feet. And wait, that's not even on wiki feet, that's on men's wiki feet.

That's on men.com. Because gender segregation is also important in the world of feed ratings. Yeah, that's exactly right. Laura Engram would find it very upsetting if your feet were on the other wiki feet. That's right. How does that feel to be objectified in such a way? Honestly, I'm kind of into it. At a five, at a five, you'd got it.

You'd have to be into it. If any person took any... Gorge his feet, it says. If any person took any picture of any part of my body and the internet was like, this is a perfect score. I don't care what it is. Great. So the reason I bring this up is because, of course, we hear our Pablo Tore finds out,

really fetishize data and evidence. And so what we have for you is a national survey by the adult video site Clips for sale. Sure, sure. This is the last available data that we have, but it's a state-by-state top fetishes list. Ooh, fun. All 50 states. Okay.

Okay. Now... This is like they're aggregating, like, search terms or whatever from me? I believe this is Clips for Sales, proprietary, uh, exactly, search database that they are then ranking to give a sense of what Americans are into. When no one's looking. When no one is looking. Or maybe they are looking because that's what they're into. What counts as a fetish?

What makes you cross the line from like, for example, I think feet are attractive. I personally don't, but let's say you do to I have a foot fetish. If you would be interested in watching someone give someone a foot job, I think you have a foot fetish. Whereas if I were watching a clip that were something I were into and a foot job started to happen, I would click away. Because I'm not into it. None of the states in our union on this list have as their top fetish feat. Weird. Then what even are there?

So I have a- Maybe it's because they don't have to use a porn site to find what they're looking for, as I said. That's a very good- YouTube and just look at ladies bare feet. That's a good confounding variable in this. Oh, we're going state by state. Tell me what Alabama's into. Is it your cousin and is that a fetish?

I'm hoping Alabama's going to go Asian. I want Alabama to be Asian. Alabama, their top fetish is pedal. What? And this one... I don't like that. I don't like that. One is foot-related.

I don't like the root. According to the independent. Spell that. Spell petal, please. Petal like a bike. That's right. That's right. It's a P-E-D-A-L.

pedal pumping also referred to as revving and cranking is a new sort of clean, monotonous niche porn that is taking over the web with a big American quote redneck following. What are you talking about? It's, what is it? Using your foot to smush. Smush them with your foot.

It's repeatedly pressing, oh wait, no, that's the actual. Spin this way, I'll show you. Come on. This is, according to now, a GQ article. Okay. Um, pedal pumping. The sight of beautiful women's feet, whether naked in tennis socks or nylon and sneakers or high heel, stepping on the gas and doing so repeatedly, vroom, room.

Wait, so pedal. Too niche. This is too niche. So pedal is a subcategory of foot fetish. I think this is a very specific, yes. I think we should have just called this foot. So Alabama is into feet. I had never heard of this.

Pumping pedals. Feet, pumping pedals. Grum, vroom. Right. Why do you keep saying, room? riding on your schwin maybe. Quote, room, vroom. Okay, so that's Alabama. That's Alabama.

And then I hate to ask this because it does feel insensitive, but is incest a fetish? It certainly does. Show up on. They don't make videos of incest. Almost every video pretends to be incest at this point. I'm sorry, Michael, to break the news to you. No, wait, wait, hang on. What I think, are you talking about, are you talking about step siblings?

Because that I feel like it's one of, that's a thing, but that's not incest. We need to go through this because I feel like your sense of purity here. I'm not, I'm just not aware of the subcategories. You're saying step siblings don't count. I'm saying if I had to zoom out from step siblings, what would you call it? But the whole reason it is incest. Yes, totally. But the whole reason it is step siblings is so that they can't say it's incest.

Right, but they're also not real sibling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's some. I think there's some people who would probably be probably mean into it. places because they want the like, oh, they're... I'm not going to Google this, but I would be very confident in betting that, in fact, people are just into the most definitionally biological forms of incest. Well, and just the, like, two hot kids that are at the same house, their brother and sister, and oops.

Florida is into that. Is into tickling. Oh, come on, man. This is the most popular... We're doing a snake draft. I hate being tickled so much. I think there's something that I feel like, one of the transitions between being a child

and being an adult is once you like actually, to me, cut this shit. Yeah, it's like, don't fucking touch me. Because as the little daughter of a family that was, you were always like, there's no way out. Ritikilers. I would always just yell, I'm going to pee. Yeah.

And then you would be. And then at some point I would start pee. That is another, it's a different state. Don't touch me. That is a very different state into that. I'm going to pee. Michael, you're the next draft pick. Who do you select?

Oh, okay. I'm going, uh, I'm going to go out, West. I'm going to go out West. I'm going to go to Utah. I want to see what the Morms are doing. Utah is into balloons. What the fuck? This is like a random word generator. Like boobs? Are you talking about? A type of sexual or sensual interest where people find arousal, comfort, or excitement in balloons. Those who share this interest often call themselves Lunars. Love that. I love a cute name. What is this a list of a list according to the website, clips for sale, of the top fetishes.

Top meaning what? You're telling me that more people look up in Utah. More people look up ballooning than, I don't know, boobs? Well, I don't know if boobs are a fetish. That's a bit mainstream. Kind of crazy to say. I think boobs are, we're all into boobs. Sorry, I'm a lunatic.

Well, that's what they should call themselves, actually. So, damn. Importantly, though, the state of Montana is into Mormons? Is into breast? Expansion. No. What is expansion? Sorry, I didn't mean to yoke-gum.

Is that not augmentation? Breast expansion fetishism is a sexual fetish characterized by pronounced sexual fantasies involving, usually, a woman or sometimes a man whose breasts enlarge. They enlarge. Oh, as you're going. While you're looking at them. There's a political, wait, there's a political. This was a political scandal recently. Who was that guy?

Yeah. Who was someone's husband? Yes. But I don't think he was into the enlarging. He was into. But they were balloons, so he was kind of a. Does he qualify? A lunatic, as we say.

This Byron Gnome qualify, husband of former DHS Secretary of Christine Nome because, no, sorry, his fetish was bimbofication. Oversized fake breasts and cross-dressing. So we've got. I am disputing the accuracy of this list. We see that. There's no way. That is noted. Let's try Hawaii.

Hawaii is into vore. What is the, what is vor? What is? How is it that we have to look up every single one of these? I like picturing one PTFO listener going like, they're about to do my thing. That's exactly right. They're finding out about my things, my interests are overlapping in a way.

Somebody's about to click subscribe so hard. The computer snaps in half. Press that bell icon because Vore is a rare sexual fantasy about swallowing someone, being swallowed whole, or watching it happen. I could get into that. swallowing a person whole, like the way a snake eats a mouse. Yeah. Doesn't that make you feel a little?

Yeah, I think like... Sexy? No. No? You don't go like, what would it be like to get that mouse? So, voraphylia is... Florafelia? Vorapelia, V-O-R-A-R-E-P-H-I-L-A, is a fantasy centered around the erotic or psychological desire

to be consumed by or to personally consume another person or creature. Of course, yeah. But it's sexual, is what you're saying. Yeah. For these proud residents of the state of Hawaii. Clips for sale is counting the people who Google or who go on clips for sale. A site I've never heard of to be honest. And they say, yeah, we're doing incredible promo for Clips for Sale.

I'd go to Clips for Sale. And people in that state are searching for so much that it's the number one fetish. Vore is the number one fetish in seven states. Bull shit. This is horses. I'm getting a correction. Eight states. Arkansas,

California, Georgia, Hawaii. You're going to make me look this up. Missouri. I don't like this survey. I'm starting to wonder. Vermont. Whoa, why putting it in me? Yeah, it's a new, it's a Ben and Jerry's flavor now.

Yeah, Bernie was way into. You're going to make me go home and look this up. Michigan. Now, this is what I wanted to know on the Utah thing. When we found out that Utah's wasn't like a Mormon-related, I wonder, is there a state whose number one fetish is the Mormon stuff? Because I know there is specifically Mormon. Yeah.

I'm sure it's also receiving votes, but I don't have to let you answer this question, but I have to go back to the VOR thing. What am I watching a video of? A video of what? Oh, good question. Someone being consumed or doing the consumer. How? How are you watching that?

It's a fantasy. Is it cannibalism? You're like we're pretending I'm cutting the version of me? Unlike cannibalism, Boer is strictly fantasy-based. They thought of that. Sorry, they thought of that. So soft vore. Yeah, soft vore means the swallowed individual remains alive and unharmed inside the predator.

Perhaps Jonah and the whale situation. Sort of like a Pinocchio again. Another, these are all Pinocchio. Let me tell you, his nose grew that day. A lot of the Old Testament people were considered vorarophiles, I believe. Hard vore involves digestion or fatal harm. I still... That shouldn't be available on the...

I am no closer to knowing what... I'm looking at when I see a video of this. And I know. Oh, God. I forgot I was going to you porn, so obviously was going to see what I just saw. But I'm just trying to. I think they're mostly like, no. It's like cartoons.

I see. Sorry to show you that with your son here. But Pablo did it. It's Pablo's fault. I told my son, I'm like, you know, you have an opportunity really to be involved with the podcast. It's like really prestigious. Yeah, yeah.

And here he is. And it's like, we're looking up different, every state's favorite porn. What else? What else? Oh, please. What's Massachusetts? Wrestling? Okay. All right. Most search for it. That's what they're saying. Most search for chastity in Nebraska. What? I mean, there's so many things I have questions about, but I really hesitate. Is that Kansas doing face sitting? Yeah. Shut out.

Shut out. I love that. And Louisiana. As is Louisiana. That's right. And Maine. Okay. Well, that's different. A lot more, you can sit on a mouth with a lot less. Are we sure that CPR isn't someone just frantically trying to find CPR? Instructions. Help me! They're on the wrong... The state of Wyoming. They're in Wyoming on the wrong website.

What is Sissy? Great question. I'm guessing a man being dominated or something? So Sissy... Hold on. I have notes on this. Cissification is right? The Sissification of America.

My voice sissified while I was saying Sissification. Yes, of course. Cisification is a practice in dominance and submission or kink subcultures involving reversal of gender roles and making a submissive male take on a feminine role, which includes cross-dressing. So a bit kind of like the Byronome's... stuff. A sissified breast expander.

Not to be confused with Sisyphus, of course. Correct. Hey, what is smotherbox? Oh, I'm so glad you asked. Smotherbox, great state of Maryland. What is this podcast that I'm on? A smotherbox is a BDSM piece of furniture or structure in which the head of the sub

literal head? Well, let's keep reading and find out. It's placed in a fixed opening so that the dominant can sit on top of or over the face for controlled smothering. Oh, smother me with your, but I can't move. can't get away. It's a form of breath play and face-sitting that can only be performed safely within strict agreements and under constant supervision. Yes, and that's all of this. That's all of this. Except for a fart.

You must have enthusiastic agreed upon consent. Far you can do whatever you want. Far you can do whatever you want. Yeah, not sexually though. Yeah. Wyoming into CPR, notably, Maryland into smother boxing. I mean, real yin and yang. Yeah, yeah. They should really... Ball busting, I'm guessing is just punching someone on the balls? I assumed it was just being like, hey, you loser. Ball busting, in fact, is a form of... I bet you're going to cuck, aren't you?

Look who's late? Yeah, what the fuck? Ball busting is in fact a form of BDSM and cock and ball torture where a person drive sexual arousal from applying controlled pain, pressure, or impact to a partner's testicles. And who am I to say I'm not into that? I've never tried it. You know? I thought I knew a lot about fetishes until today.

Until right now, I just... We're right here right now. There are 50 things I've never heard of. We live in a vast plurality of interests. And we... And that's beautiful. And... I believe when they settled on e pluribus unum, this is what they were thinking of.

Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? They were thinking of... From ebony and diaper and fart and face sitting and smother box, one. The moral arc of the universe bends towards... Cunning. Yeah, that one. Yeah.

Pretty much. What did we... All of it. What do we find out today? All of what was just said was new to me. Yeah. I found out that I'm going to... to go home and try and figure out what Vora Rhaelia is.

I think I found out I'm not into anything weird enough. I think I need to be, I need to start branching at, wow. Huh. That's actually my first modeling job, and I'm actually really proud of this. Because the guy to my makeup was super cool. I have that, um, the bracelet that I like. I like this one because it looks like you could be trying to go undercover and being like a movie seat and maybe they won't notice that that's actually my face looking up at them.

It's kind of a massage table vibe. Yeah, yeah. But reverse flipped the other way. Yeah. And also weird massage wasn't anybody's most searched fucking thing. Nothing remotely close to something you would have asked. That I would go, oh, I recognize that and understand. No state was foot.

Not one of the states was foot. There was sock. There was sock. There was pedal. There was pedal. I'm counting that as foot. I'm just saying there's literally no way that any state has more people searching vore than foot.

It also feels like maybe they controlled for that or they planned for like everyone's number one was foot so we deleted foot from the top ten actual searches we just canceled. Are you saying if this was a rigged election? I think we need to look into it a little bit at least. I'm just saying. I'm not ready to take it at face value. We're going for a complete and total shutdown of clips for sale.

Yeah. Are people sending mail-in votes to clip for sale or how does it work? Have they counted that? Because that's mostly, that affects one party. in general. Yeah, what about if the military wants to vote in clips for sale? Isn't that there right? Right.

Smothering the voting box. That's right. Pablo Torre finds out is produced by Walter Averoma, Maxwell Carney, Ryan Cortez, Juan Galindo, Patrick Kim, Neely Lohman, Rob McCray, Matt Sullivan, Claire Taylor, and Chris Tuminello. Studio engineering by RG Systems, sound design by Andrew Bersick, Digital Strategy by Bailey Carlin and Andrew Northern, theme song, as always, by John Bravo. and we'll talk to you next time.