Pablo Torre Finds Out - Sir Mix-a-Lot Finds Out

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

He is a Seattle sports legend. Also: butts. At 62 years young, the rapper reveals how a Super Bowl ad inspired "Baby Got Back," why he was live-tweeting a Seahawks comeback at 80 miles an hour... and what happened to that viral lady grinding with him at the symphony.• Previously on PTFO: The NFL Coach and Sir Mix-a-Lot's Mercedes Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is. I like big butts and I cannot lie, period. Right after this ad. Sir Mixalot, aka, according to the federal government, Anthony Ray, it is an honor to have you on the show. I just had to go pull stuff out of my damn studio to try to make this shit work in here. So I'm in my kitchen, dining room area. It's an honor.

I didn't think this would happen. I've been chasing you. I've been investigating how to get to you for like a year, like on Twitter. And you never showed up until now. I'm not too good at social media. I can talk a lot of shit. But the Hawks. Let's talk some hawks shit.

We're going to talk some hawks shit. We're going to talk about the way in which you might be responsible for a lot of the bad shit that happened to your hawks. I want to get to that. I want to build to that. Oh, no. You didn't think you're going to get held to account on Pablo Toro finds out? I bring them good luck. Well, okay, we'll get to that.

I just need to establish that when I was telling people, friends of mine, that today I'm interviewing Sir Mix a lot, the reaction that I received is unique. I'm unique, okay. Well said. Well said. The story that I tried to get you on the show for, which you were not on the show for, which I, I still think is the shame. We can now just fill people in on this. Are you familiar with the story that I was trying to report about you and your candy

apple red Mercedes and this coach, Sherman Smith and Dillon McCullough? Are you familiar with this story at all? I do remember the car. It was a pretty tacky, pimped out Mercedes with rims and gold shit all over it. Oh, God, man. See, I grew up around pimps. yeah, don't raise your kid around pimps. But you don't remember anything about who you sold the car to

or how future NFL coach Deeland McCullough wound up getting involved in this whole tale of your pimped out Mercedes. Please tell us. The coach bought it? Oh, oh, oh, mix. There's so much you need to hear about. And I actually don't want to spoil it because it's an incredible story. It involves Sherman Smith, who was a long time Seahawks running back.

We're going to link it in the show notes. It involves future NFL Raiders, running backs coach, Dylan McCullough, and his search for his real dad. And you are essential to the unwinding of the story because it involves the car. And you're a big car guy is what I'm also, of course, realizing as I look through your life's story. I mean, Mr. Lamborghini is also an AKA that you go by. Oh, just for one song. They call me Mr. Lamborghini.

See me, believe me, we be. hitting them twisties, you know, that kind of stuff. You know, yeah. I needed to tell you that when I was in high school, I had a, we had a class called speech, and we had to give some oration in front of everybody else. And people were doing, you know, the Gettysburg Address and some MLK, right?

So it's that kind of a thing. And I get up there as a freshman in high school. And I do baby got back. And it didn't go great. for me in speech class with Dr. Dr. Caramo. Look at you now, man. You blossom. The most painful B-plus I ever received

was because I... B-plus, that's... Come on now, you're spoiled. You must be used to A's. The only A's I got in high school was, hey, what's up, man? Hey, that's all I got. I want to understand what Young Sir Mixalot was like

because the technology part of your origin story you were a tech guy before you were a music guy. That's what got me into music. It wasn't music that got me in the tech. It was tech that got me into music. If it stayed guitars and drums, I would have never gotten involved with music. But when the technology got into it, it made me curious.

So you're growing up in Seattle. You're from Central District, yes? Could you paint the picture for people who have never been are unfamiliar with what that all felt and looked like and sounded like at the time? Well, like I said, I'm a little older than you, a bit older than you. 19th and Yessler at that time was where pimps and hoes did what they had to do.

So that's where I came from, really. So pimps, hose slamming Cadillac goes. That's what I was around. So that kind of pushed me towards hip hop even though hip hop wasn't born yet. and that's kind of where I come from, but my mom wasn't going to let me be no pimps, so I got as close as I could to that, and that was it. And that's where hip hop comes in.

So I could talk about pimping, but don't be pimping. I want to point out because you alluded to your age and the generation you come from, and if you are in fact 62 years old, you should be selling skincare products. What is to say, my mom used to say, black don't crack. But it does wrinkle.

I want to put a wrinkle. in the story of the song that got me a B-plus when I was in high school that has been the song that everybody knows you for because I didn't realize that this is also a Super Bowl story. It's Super Bowl week, part of why you're here, has something to do with a commercial. There he is. What a happening, dude.

There's a super party animal. This name is Fox McKenzie. What the fuck was that, man? Spud McKinney. He was nodding too. There are a few things that are as 1988, 89 as what you just saw. That is a bull terrier named Spuds McKenzie that was a star, a bona fide American commercial superstar. And this is a Budweiser ad and all that shit.

I want to draw everyone's attention, though, to, of course, not just the dog, but the women in the ad. because, Mix, that is, that's what beauty was in American life. Yeah. Waf. That's a very literary description for the skinny and extraordinarily white palette of beauty standards along Madison Avenue at that point. Beauty rhymes with booty. I think God made it that way. But for people who don't remember, you were a heretic on some level.

daring to say these truths out loud when you did. It was something that African-American culture had been doing since before I was born. I used to hang out in front of the Bryant Manor and a lot of pamps would be running out there. They're popping game and we call it popping corn. But just, you know, they're just dropping little nuggets. They were sticking in my head. That's where my hip-hop stuff came from. But that's all they would do.

everybody would walk behind the chick and be like, oh yeah, that's me. And so the real question I need to ask you is, when did you know what your first line in your most famous song was going to be? I said, the first line should be simple, because at that time I was doing a lot of fast rapping and spitting and showing skills and all that. And I said, you know what? Time out. I like big butts and I cannot lie, period. Because it's true.

Your honor, I like big butts and I cannot lie. And for people who are just listening to this, you're missing out on what we're doing on YouTube because the shot, the aesthetics of the music video, are also so perfect. That was scary to me because I'm going. like, what the hell? It looks like a cartoon in here. But Rick Rubin said, trust him. So I trusted him.

And sure enough, he pulled it off. I'm sorry. Hold on. Rick Rubin is responsible for why there was a 50-foot yellow butt in that video. He was paying the bills. There you go. Hey, Your Honor, if I'm getting arrested, arrest that man first. I didn't realize that, you know, the Yoda-style character that Rick Rubin has been regarded as over time. His contribution to this piece of musical history was,

we need mix to sit in between two cartoon giant ass cheeks and rap. Yep. And you know the joke. Most of my homeboys are like, yeah, I saw your video. You look like a piece of shit. And I was like, damn, that's a good point, actually. I had on brown and black, too.

Oh, my goodness. It ain't too much much. What were your demands when you were making this video? Because, okay, Rick Rubin does the mountain range of ass. But what did you want out of your giant debut experience? Well, the whole time I'm doing the video, I'm trying to figure out, we need a scene that's going to make something credible here because I don't want to be the goofy guy that made that one big song.

So thank God I came up with a couple of other things to like the hat and the stuff of that shit. So people don't only think baby guy back. They remember Posseum Broadway and My Hoopty, and people don't realize I've gone platinum a few times. Yes. Not just once. I want to get to the Uvra because it is extensive and arguably as deep as the valley that is that giant ass crack that we just saw. But your phone number, are you aware of the legend of your phone number? I'm not even referring, by the way, to 1-900 Mix-a-Lot. Dial 1-900 mix a lot and kick them nasty thoughts.

Which unfortunately does not connect to you because I did dial it. I'm referring to the story of the guy who got your personal phone number in Seattle after you had it. Have you ever heard about this guy? I just heard about this like two weeks ago. About two weeks ago I heard about it. I'm like, okay, what the hell? Poor fella. So it's 2013.

A law student named Jonathan Nichols had been. move from Iowa to Seattle, and he was looking for a new number, area code 206. So I went into the Verizon store. I just picked the one that was the easiest to remember and went with it. And within a few weeks, months, I started getting random texts or voicemails for Anthony or mix. And then I started to think maybe he was pretty successful because they were from Maserati dealerships or Lamborghini dealerships. And then I started getting demos, YouTube demos, saying, hey, Mix, we should work with this guy.

And to all these folks, I just said, wrong number and you got the wrong guy. I couldn't put two and two together until my phone was blowing up with happy birthday messages. And a lot of people referencing Baby got back and saying, happy birthdays from Mixla. And I was like, no shit. So I just Googled him, and I'm like, sure enough, that is his birthday.

His name is Anthony. And some of the ladies started sending me text messages from around the country, different area codes. And the funniest one was this one lady sent me a picture in a mirror with her backside showing and saying something to the effect that I still got something that you like or you can't not lie. Oh, God. I was hoping he wouldn't say names. Oh, God, man. Okay. I'm embarrassed.

That's crazy. And I responded with wrong number, and then she sent me another. Her response to that was sending me another selfie, full frontal, and says, remember me now? I just need people to appreciate that Jonathan Nichols could not be more the photo-negative of Sir Mix-a-lot in terms of just his general vibe.

I feel bad for that guy, man. I think he basically said, if I'd rather to translate, he said, whoever owned this phone had hos in different area coats. I was a little loose back then. The thing that he sent back, by the way, because Jonathan, God bless Jonathan, because what he does is apparently, He's with his then boyfriend at the time, of course,

who took a photo of Jonathan's face and sent it back to the interested party who had reached out to you. And she called me right away and was mortified. I'm so sorry, baby, I'm so sorry. And I told her not to worry about it. And I wasn't going to do anything creepy with it. And I deleted the photo. But that story was the funniest to just be me as a gay guy

getting a full frontal from random women around the country. Well, I wish I had his phone number because if you get any more full frontals, I'll take them. Forward them right to me. Let me shut up because I'll take that literally. Just as a general curiosity, how has it been over time to be the face and the voice of butts? Tell you the truth, man. If you're about 40,000. Now, you're a Baby Got Back fan.

Yes, I'm 40 years old exactly. If you're older than that, you go to my deeper stuff, right? So I get a lot of people that hate Baby Got Back. They go, fuck, man. Man, you under, man, they act like I'm underestimating myself, right? It's like, no, no, they like where I'm spitting, like lock jaw, all those songs where I'm just flying through them, right? But everybody likes Baby Got Back, and people say, well, you should tell people to stop interviewing you about that song. I'm like, you think I'm fucking ignorant?

You've got to be, crap, man. That's like telling Bill Gates don't talk about Microsoft. No, no, no, no. No, that's my cash cow. But when I tour, when I start spitting, they like, and that's what I really grew up doing, Baby Got Back was just a funny idea that I, thought would be offensive, and that's it. Where should they start? On the list of songs that Sir Mixalot wishes people knew that he also made, what's number

one on the list? I mean, if you look at the numbers, the numbers are scary when you see that it's challenging. Some of the songs are challenging Baby Got Back for plays. Yeah. I mean, look, my hoopty, we're back in your car, it turns out. And it's a real car. It's a real car I actually had. Yeah.

I call it Exorcist Pute Green. Which takes us, by the way, to another music video involving a different car, because now we're talking about beepers. Seattle, in this era, right? Because it's late 80s, early 90s. Seattle, outside of your aesthetic cinematic universe, which we're now painting for people, we're talking about grunch, right? In sports, it's Ken Griffey Jr. and Gary Payton and Sean Kemp.

But musically, it's... Pearl Jam, Sound Garden, Allison Chains, and Nirvana. That was like, bye-bye to rap for like four years. It's, nah. It wasn't no big deal. I love grunge. I love the dirtiness of it, you know, the way it sounds, the way it's played. I love the, I wish they did more seven-string stuff, but they didn't want to sound like metal.

What was your relationship like with Nirvana? You know, it's funny. We cross-pass. Hey, how you doing all? We'll see it the next show. But I never did a show with it. them. I have a song called Swas, and I mixed it with Smells Like Teen Spirit on the chorus. And I did it in front of them, and I thought they were going to be like, fuck off. That's what I thought

they were going to say. But they loved it. So I'm like, whew. So I'm like redo Baby Got Back. I don't know if I'd be that calm. I don't know how you would best remix Baby Got Back, but you've done, in your catalog, you've done a lot of, like, genre mix. You've sampled, we will rock you into Black Sabbath, metal stuff, right? Mud honey pops up on another track. Yeah. Yeah, well, you know, I was bused, right? So I lived in the CD, but I was bused to the north end going to Roosevelt.

So I was exposed to metal and all that stuff back then. And I didn't give a damn if you were black, white, frog. I don't care what you were. I just, if it was cool, I'd listen to it. I've never heard someone say black, white frog with the frog community, finally getting representation. Right. The green guys got to get it.

But speaking of creatures that know how to use their legs. That motherfucking beast quake. I know we're going to talk about it. We got to. We don't talk about that. I'm shooting your ass. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Let me tell you something. That right there. was hood shi. Marchand, my dude, my dude. I ain't a lot. Last time I saw Marcia, we were at something, and he was associated with the Sounders.

And keep in mind, these guys had on ties, they were drinking wine. You know, Marcian, you been, motherfucker, come on, get it, come on, come on, give it up, give it up, give it up, give it up, what's off with you?

I'm like, God, damn. But you can see that the guy, Guys of whatever the company, the Sounders people, they didn't give a shit. They were like, huh, that's Marchand, no problem. And what I'm saying, back to that touchdown, the end of it. Oh, the best. Oh, yes.

When he flipped and grabbed his ball sack and said, eat this, motherfucker. Ooh, you can beat that out. But that, I don't care with nobody. It's arguably the greatest moment in sports history. If you were to argue that, I would say, yeah, that makes sense. And the Richard Sherman tip, the Richard Sherman tip, and he, oh, we. The immaculate deflection, yes. And what was weird about him, it was like a polar opposite Richard Sherman going back and forth when he's like, yeah, he's good, he's good.

Don't never put that motherfucker on me. Talking about you. You should have been wondering for someone there. They, fuck that shit. Then he walks over to him and goes, And he wondered why he got his hand knocked. That's like shit. That's some psychological shit right there, man.

Let me go walk up after I just called him everything but the child of God. And I'm going to call him a bastard in his face and then shake his hand. The thing that I have to get to, though, is, of course, the curse of Sir Vicks a lot. The curse. The curse. There are lots of curses in sports. Chris of the Bambino. Steve Bartman with the Cubs.

Lots of curses out there. This one is now my favorite one because it's Super Bowl Week and your Seahawks are playing the Patriots. But this, to set the scene here, we're going to the 2013 playoffs. And the 2013 playoffs,

you guys are playing the Atlanta Falcons. What do you remember about how this game was going when all of this? I don't remember. or shit. Nothing. I don't know what you're talking about.

Let me jog your memory, sir. I knew you would. It's a tough game on the road. Marshawn Lynch. And by the way, Matt Ryan, the Dawkins quarterback, of course, he's doing great. 20 to nothing lead for the Falcons.

And at some point, I suppose, right around this moment, actually, at the Real Mix logs on to Twitter Quote I'm driving home through Cali and this game has me pissed road rage time

you're in your 2012 Infinity QX 56 ring a bell Oh yeah I have another one too outside I bought a new one good truck In this one

it was road rage time and I mean fourth quarter down 27 to 7 Seahawks coming back Russell Wilson Earl Thomas Interception 9 minutes left

and we have to triangulate this okay the time of your posts against the game clock because at this moment you tweet quote driving hard and stressing out with a photo

of your odometer, which is touch in 80s. Oh, my God. Which was not legal then. It's not legal now, actually. But it's just the emotional roller coaster. You tweet again, quote, OMG, a zillion exclamation points, biggest road comeback in playoff history.

And then less than 30 seconds ago, Matt Ryan, the Falcons, and the radio broadcast kind of tells a story better than I could. Seattle bringing pressure. Matt's going to throw. Gonzalez, the catch. 35. Tony tackle, 31.

They hit Tony Gonzalez, the great tight end. Matt Bryant, the kicker. And it is. Good. With eight seconds left. And you tweet again in your infinity, quote, oh no, no, no, no, no, no. Now that's why I should have been a news reporter.

That gives you a depth in that. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That's what I was saying in my car. Then the curse continues. Fall 2013, you remember this game? Colts? No. You don't remember your Seahawks getting a kick blocked for a touchdown, taking a giant L?

It didn't happen. Yeah. Never happened. You remember a couple weeks later, you're down 21 nothing to the bucks at home? No. Here's the thing that happens in that game, right? And this is what we are told by sources close to you. No.

Your brother has a suggestion. He says, what if you got the fuck out of here and stopped watching this game? I do that. I'm serious. I'm superstitious like that, man. I think it's my fault.

So I just walk out. Based on the evidence so far, that dump was. was never more necessary because you go to a movie. Do you remember what movie you saw, by the way? No, hell no, man. I'm too old if you remember that. It's fall 2013.

You get back from the Hunger Games, Catching Fire, I can only presume. And the Seahawks come back and they win. And then you're kind of feeling yourself because a couple weeks after that, you're back to watching your favorite team and they play the Cardinals and they lose again. And so now you have, I presume, a pivot to make here. What's your new strategy? I cut back on my watching. I really did.

I'm telling you, even the Super Bowls, I look, and then I go in another room. You know, because I think it's all my fault. If they win, it ain't me. But if they lose, it's me. And I think all my homies always, they tease me. They'll call me, if they lose, they always go, man, what the hell was wrong today? To this day, I'm the reason they lose. but not the reason they win.

Ever. You finally get into Super Bowl 48. It's a Legion of Boom. It's Payton Manning and the Broncos. And 43 to 8. Where were you on that Super Bowl Sunday? I was on tour. I was on tour.

I was on tour. I'm telling you, man, if I watched those games, I'm telling you, I bet you if I yelled right now, like I yell when the Seahawks are playing, especially in the playoff, you'd hear me from where you're at, especially if something goes wrong. God damn it! And I act like I'm the coach, of course.

But this strategy, you being the absentee coach, works because the next year, Super Bowl again, 2015, I presume now that you feel like you've been exercised. No. Feel like you've been exercised. I'm going to tell you something. This game coming up, I'm going to watch the intro. I'm going to watch the halftime.

I'm going to watch the beginning of the third quarter. And I'm going to watch the end of the fourth quarter if they're winning. If they're not winning, I'm not watching the end of the fourth quarter. I'm going to, because I know everybody that lives, I'm not even going to say where they're at, those bastards that live out there and where the bad weather's at. Oh, yeah. Fibem. All of them.

All my friends that live on the East Coast hate the Seahawks. I wake up sometime and just send a mass email. Fuck off this morning. And then, you know, they give me the middle finger, bitches. But the point being that if this game isn't going great, you might be back on the road.

You might be driving somewhere, road raging. I really get nervous when I'm watching live. But I'm going to, I got some guys coming by, and I'm going to tell you what they're going to do. All my friends, they make me leave the room. Leave, dude. Leave, dude. You're fucking it up. Go in the studio, make a song or something. We're in 2014, Mix.

It's the Seattle Symphony. And can you describe what the fuck is happening at the Seattle Symphony? I don't know. My manager is something else. Let's just say. I think Ricardo could talk a person onto a cliff

and actually say jump and they would do it. Which explains how you finally wound up on the show, incidentally. Yeah, there you go. Because he, after you hit the ground, you might be dead, but he'll make you a star. I guarantee you.

But the Seattle Symphony for people who are in familiar. I mean, we're talking about a stage with a Grammy-winning orchestra and a crowd. Don't forget. Don't forget the woman in black.

The woman in black is an internet character that deserves to be spotlit. Did you... God damn, I was heavy. I lost like 50 pounds since then. I was going to say,

you look like a different person. When people describe a post-racial America, I think they're describing this YouTube video. Probably, man. I was like, like I said, oh, damn I was big. Could you paint the picture of like what is happening, how this all came to be? So I come out.

And keep in mind, I'm terrified, because this was a opera music. I mean, that's what I was in the middle of. And I'm like, oh, my God. And everybody's sitting there. Some people are holding sheet music. They're cellos in the background. Yes. Yeah, yeah, cellos, violins, whatever the hell they are.

When the song starts, I'm doing it, and I'm terrified because I'm thinking, I'm not going to get any crowd participation at all. And all of a sudden, the girl in Black, up and everybody they just said okay and what blew my mind look at the orchestra yes look at that they're that man the orchestra by the way it is in a silver factory look at that the orchestra is exactly what you're imagining an orchestra would be everyone has like white hair very proper all dressed in black themselves by the way and yet the foremost conductor of this performance of this musical climax is not the conductor it is the woman in black who is front and center

And has, has the confidence mix. When I first saw this, I was like, oh, this is a plant. Sir makes a lot, planted this woman. Everybody said that. I wonder if she's still married because she had a ring on. We're going to try and locate the woman in black, the follow-up investigation. But what you're saying is that once she got on stage, people organically, authentically swarmed the orchestrated. and got on stage two.

It was not planned at all. People say, man, you had to plan that, plan that. But when she got up, I didn't say anything because I'm looking at, you know, the people in charge like, hey, is this cool? And they're like, keep going, keep going, okay? That's when all just started getting up. I was like, that. That, and you're hopping up and down. I mean, it must be, look, I don't want to be presumptuous here.

But that feels like a thing that you may have dreamed of or acid dreamed of or hallucinated at one point. Like, that's fucking wild. Literally, five minutes before I came out, it was, oh, oh, like, what the hell is this shit? And then all of a sudden they started and, wow. I was like, damn. I like the idea that you're kind of the least informed person as to what is about to happen here.

If I had knew, I would just say, you know, no, no, no, no, no. Now, the homies might see this, and I won't be allowed back in the hood no more, you know. But, nah, everybody liked it. But this is where I just got to jump in to level with our audience here for a second because several minutes ago,

right underneath the service of this episode, without our honored guest having any idea what we've been up to, we here a Pablo Torre finds out, got the idea to furiously start searching for the woman in black on the internet right now while we were interviewing Sir Bixelot. And so not unlike that viral moment from the Seattle Symphony, which has been viewed more than 15 million times on YouTube,

I can just promise you, this was not planned at all. And yet, shockingly, the lady in black, despite being herself out on the road somewhere, actually got back to us, like, right away. And what she told us, suddenly inspired me to call an audible. In fact, we're going to pause right here

because we have a special guest that we have just contacted. And she may be familiar to you. Can we please route the Lady in Black? I don't think she ever told me her name or anything. Oh, my God. This is hilarious. And she's in her car. Yeah.

Can I formally introduce Sir Mixalot and Sean Bounds? Do I have that correct? Yes, but I'm Martinez now. Okay, well, then I got to thank you for saying that before I started saying some bad shit. I don't mean bad like bad. I mean bad like good. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I was just in Seattle.

I live in Texas now. And I was looking for you at the Seahawks game. We were just watching, Sean, the video of you rushing the stage and becoming an all-time internet legend. And here you are again. Could you give us your perspective on what that evening was like? because people have accused you, of course, of being a plant for Sir Mixelot. Right. I don't think that old school dancing that I was a plant.

But yeah, yeah. So I had jammed to swass growing up. I mean buttermilk biscuits. I mean, Square Dance Rap. Come on. I mean, I've listened to everything. And I actually worked on Broadway, on Madison and Broadway. And it was just a blast.

It was such a beautiful moment, and Sir Mixoan, I hope you think the same. I mean, I really, it was a beautiful moment, and, you know, it wasn't staged. It was real life, and that is what is lacking, I think, today. I mean, this was the real deal. I have the arthritis in my hips to prove it now. Boy, did she, she made the house come down. Really, she was bigger than the song itself. No, no, no one could be bigger than that song.

Come on. But it was so beautiful and so darn fun. and I'm so glad to finally to finally meet you, you know? Yeah. Well, you know, I had went to a celebration of life that day. That's why I wasn't all black. Whoa. And they have, yeah, yeah, they dubbed me the lady in black with back.

Okay. Wow. Wait, so just to briefly recap, so the lady in black with back went from, and my condolences more than a decade later. You went from a funeral to that? Well, a celebration of life, yes, for a co-worker that I worked with on Broadway, had passed away. He was an older gentleman, but, you know, nonetheless, such an awesome guy.

That's why I was wearing black and everyone else was wearing all that color and everything. Oh, my God. I wonder if he was kind of remote controlling you from heaven and said, go up there and shake that ass. Just do it for me. I always wanted to see it. I'm so glad I didn't wear my spanks that day because, man, it just, I mean, it just went big, didn't it? It was just so crazy. It was just out there. I was in Florida and they were showing me that, did you see this girl? Do you, what, how did I not see her? What are you talking about? People, did you see her? What's it been like to be the lady in black with back in the year since then? Because again, this is a wildly viral video. Oh, oh, oh,

goodness. Well, when it first happened, to be honest, it was really a beautiful thing. People were reaching out from really all over the world and talking about how important it is to love yourself, to live in the moment, to love your body. I mean, it turned into such a beautiful thing that, you know, you just don't know when you're just doing fun things, you're not thinking about that. But honestly, I mean, I just, I'm back to my normal day to day life. Nothing crazy. Except this. This is awesome. What a beautiful surprise. I was on my way back to work. Oh, my God. I didn't expect to find out this much today on Pablatori, find out. But uniting the two of you is it's a dream that my teenage self could not have ever imagined.

Well, ditto. I mean, this is awesome. Like I said, I've been listening to you since Swas. And you look great. You look really great. It look really fabulous. And I'm happy to have really met you. And I really want to thank you for all your music and bringing so much joy to everybody. I mean, it's really uplifting and fun. And we need to have more fun. Probably one of the most popular videos that I had anything to do with on the Internet. I just, I cannot believe that.

I mean, well, you are a superstar. And I'm, like, in awe and so excited. I hope my street cred goes up again. Oh, yeah, here you're in. The Crips and the Bloods, they stop fighting each other just because of you. I hope when you do come to Texas, you look me up. I'd love to meet you in person. Oh, that'll happen because I do have a tour coming up.

Good, good. I'll be ready. I love that this happened while the Lady in Black with Back was in her car. This has been an episode largely about, it turns out, cars. And so I'm going to let you go back on the road. I'm going to ask you, do you have a Super Bowl prediction, Lady and Black? Are you kidding? Seahawks all the way.

Oh, the way. Thank you both for participating in the most absurd Super Bowl preview episode that a technically sports show has ever done. Yeah, we knew it the whole time. Thanks, guys. What a treat. Wow, thank you. No, thank you. Pablo Torre finds out is produced by Walter Averoma, Maxwell Carney, Ryan Cortez, Juan Galindo, Patrick Kim, Neely Lohman, Rob McRae, Matt Sullivan, Claire Taylor, and Chris Tuminello.

Our studio engineering is by RG Systems. Our sound designed by Andrew Bursick and NGW Post. Digital Strategy by Bailey Carlin and Andrew Northern. And our theme song, as always, by John Bravo. We'll talk to you next time.