Pablo Torre Finds Out - The Doctor Is In: Katie Nolan and Dan Soder’s Final “Jeopardy!” Share & Tell

Episode Date: January 26, 2024

The third installment in the historic trilogy that is Katie Nolan vs. Celebrity Jeopardy! is a real journey. A journey through word games, organic chemistry, and love itself. Also: video game injuries, Woke Rodney Dangerfield, and not that Lisa Ann. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is. Dude, this is so fucking cool. And I'm so proud of her. Right after this ad. You're listening to Draft King's Network. I found out, can I, I don't know if it'll translate on audio. What's happening?

What's happening? What's happening? It's a laser sound that is so convincing. Can you just lean into the mic? I'm going to close my eyes. Ready? Yeah. Okay.

It's the, it's the river. It's the weird re-hurt. Get a little closer and do it one more time. How cool is that? I don't want to know. I told them not to show the magic. It's like throat singing. It's fucking laser all day, dude.

And then you want to back up a little and do your machine gun? Jesus, let me go. Do you know, white Wickelinslow? Come get some. Come get some. The voice for medalist never left me. You've never done Sam.

Sam Elliott? Yeah. Oh, God. Well, there's time. And there's a place. Sometimes there's a time and a place If you're ever up in the hills of Colorado When your dad is left

Well, there's time Time to learn voices Rodney Dangerfield Rodney's my favorite Yeah Gotta find more stuff to do as woke Rodney Wait What is what is woke Rodney

I'm telling you You don't know does it get any respect Women of Color That's far too long They haven't been getting women of color I'm telling you If gender's fluid that I'm in love with a puddle.

Of course, black lives matter. I'll tell you what doesn't matter. All lives. I got an ex-wife. I got a doctor. Dr. Vinny Boombats. Yeah. Where was the other one that we were,

like we would do right-wing Bruce Springsteen? Oh, my God. He's like, you know, there's a lot of immigrants taking jobs out here. He's like, no, Bruce. Whoa, Bruce. Brucey Bruce. Hey, my daddy used to work at the factory.

And then a Guatemalan man took that away from me. You're like, whoa, time out. Time out, Roos. Hey, I'm telling you, citizens united. It ruined democracy. All right, there's all the voices. Thanks for letting me get my voices out. You got to devenem me like a snake.

There were other topics that I want to talk to you guys about today. Um, topics that would have just set up Dan Soder to do various wrestling voices. That's my whole life, baby. Um, I was hoping you would... But unfortunately, I'm going to ruin it and just talk about my thing. Sorry, honey. I love it. Sorry, honey.

I'm your Miss Elizabeth today. Oh. Wow. That, that hits different now. It doesn't it? Now pick me up on your shoulder. No, Katie has to do her macho man. Yeah.

All right. All right. That's like if he's horse. Every impression I do is an impression of Dan's impression. I love it. Yeah. That's good. Yeah.

There it is. There it is. Yeah. It's pretty good. It's a limited fake. But yeah, let's talk about Jeopardy. Oh. I know.

Yeah. Do we have to? I thought these were only if I won. I admire that you showed up. I didn't know I had to do this if I lost. In some ways, this is the episode I'm looking forward to the month. most. Good.

Because I want to know, I can now know everything. Yeah. How did you guys watch this? Oh, we just watched it at home. Yeah. Just had dinner. We just had dinner and watched it. You know, we had a lovely meal.

We had both seen it before. We were both there. So. Katie had a good point while watching it last night. She goes, um, athletes don't have to watch the game replayed back to them. With everybody else for the first time. No, I'm just saying like, Oh, the first time.

Sports are live for a reason. This is what I was tickled by while also being very bummed. Spoiler alert. You don't have to pretend. The closest I've ever came to being a boxer's wife the next day. I think I've made that analogy with this before, but it truly felt like I was in a gown and I had a diamond necklace on and the love of my life was bleeding out of every horpus. It just felt like I was like just sitting there with like velvet gloves on being like,

Are you okay, baby? But it was fun watching it. I was in the audience for it, and I didn't remember a lot of it. I didn't think I was so locked in. So we should, as we always do, recap for people who missed. Okay. I didn't win. I lost the whole, I came in third.

I full lost the final. But this isn't something she's going to say, because this isn't something that Katie does. What? Katie was very sick. Very sick when she recorded that. And that's not an excuse. I'm just letting you know. But it's like when a hockey player reveals I've had a broken rib the whole time.

I had a punctured lung. She, I got her sick. I was very sick. I had a really bad head cold. And then I went back on the road. And Katie was like, I think the day I went to Phoenix, you were like, I'm starting to feel like, and I was like, we knew, we knew the five. finals were Sunday. And the first taping day of Jeopardyals, so the quarterfinals and the semifinals,

I had COVID that I got rid of just in time to fly. I was afraid that COVID was going to keep me from doing Jeopardy. And I used that Paxlovod and got rid of it in like four days and then had an extra day to get healthy and then flew. So this time I was sick again and I was like, no. And it did not clear up quick. It was not clear up quick. There was a nasty cold going around. When was this? November. After Spider-Man, right after Spider-Man came out. You guys have been sitting on this for that long?

Yeah. Yeah. She, and by the way, they did cut the Spider-Man thing, which made me mad. Yeah. Because it was great. And it was just, they make you, you do a lot of the interview stuff in between, you know, the like, Katie, you're playing for this charity. But you legitimately had to think, because not only was she sick, but her thumb was hurt. She had heard.

So, this is kind of out of order, but Spider-O-W, Spider-Spiderman, too, had come out. Katie, battling technology. will be a theme of today's episode. Spider-Man 2 had come out on PlayStation, and I played it too. So they had asked me about how I prepped, and I was like, look, I've been spending my weekends prepping, like memorizing the capitals and countries and stuff.

But this last weekend, I let myself take the weekend off and relax, and I just played a video game I'd been really waiting to play for way too long. I played it for like a day straight. And it's funny is I was very excited for Spider-Rexamine. too to come out. Same. Pre-ordered it and all this stuff. And I told Katie, she didn't play the... She played the first Spider-Man.

She was like, it's all right. You hadn't played it yet. At the time, I hadn't played it yet. So she was like, I was trying to tell her in a down period of her not having a game. I was like, you should try to find a Spider-Man. It's fucking awesome. And we live in Manhattan now. Oh, no.

Yeah, you can find yourself. You can... Who doesn't look for the... Grand The Auto 4, I immediately went to the beer garden in Astoria and found where my apartment was. By the way, these are my two favorite games of all time. Number three is right-Ded Red Dead Redemption, too. As Katie and I have a lot. I just started replaying it.

Love it. Love the Arthur Morgan story. Okay, but so I played the game too much. But she got into it in a way where like, I was on the road and the game came through and she was like, I need a video game. And then she texted me and she wrote, I got Spider-Man too. I don't want to play it though because you were so excited to play it. And I go, no, you should play it. And when I say that she started playing it, she dove in and by the time I got home from the road, this was like a couple weeks before, she was already 50% of the game.

Which is insane. She played the shit out of this game. But so I realized, I played it so much that I injured myself. My thumb was red and swollen and throbbing. And I realized that I was potentially had injured myself before my Jeopardy final. So like my buzzer thumb was not working. The only appendage that mattered. It was like in a sitcom where.

For the podcast audience, you can go see YouTube and Draft King's Network. Katie Nolan's objective. Not an excuse, actually swollen stuff. What's so funny is it really was like a sitcom, you know, when someone wakes up and there's like a big event in the episode and they go like, oh no, my eyebrows are blonde. And like the whole point of the episodes that I'm hiding in it. That was Katie when she woke up. She was like, my thumb. And then I brought back the nastiest head cold either one of us had in 10 years.

Gave it to her because I love her. So sweet. So sweet. And the Friday before Jeopardy, she was like, I'm feeling like shit. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, you're all right. You're all right. Now you're a cut man.

Yeah. No, no, no, you're good. Everything's fine. You're fine. You're just like you get some sleep. You still got a champ. Get some sleep. And she flew out to L.A.

Which I do not recommend flying across the country at this time culturally with a cough. I just want everybody to know that what is the most real version of Katie Nolan is the version that you can sense who really wanted to fucking win this. Of course I did. And that's why when I was watching, I was fucking nervous. I know. I didn't know what was going to happen. I knew, I felt how much

knowing you, you wanted. And I would dare say deserve. Well, she put in the work. Thank you, Papa. Learned every country? The fact that you... Katie would come by and I'd be like, so like, what are you doing?

And she was like, memorizing all of geography. I know where things are now. That's pretty cool to me. Bulgaria. The capital? Sophia. Jesus, she's good.

The original main goal was, I don't want to look stupid. And I don't think I did, so I'm proud of that. So for people who miss the first two parts of this trilogy, one of the great trilogies in fight history. Of course. Ali Frazier,

Katie Nolan versus Christopher Maloney, in which she makes an arch nemesis out of Detective Stabler. A life enemy. Truly. And then follows it up by getting into another blood feud and defeating Stephen Weber from Wings. Who turned into a fan? Yeah, has been in our Instagram comments.

Yeah, he sent me a message and asked me if I won, but he sent it on Monday or like Tuesday morning, and I was like, I can't say. So I didn't answer, but now I have to remember to respond to him. I do now think, though, of Stephen Weber maybe watching this episode and seeing the photo of Katie Nolan's thumb and thinking to himself.

I did that. Turnabout really is fair play. It really is. It was like when Frazier used to say mean stuff about Ali getting Parkinson's, where he's like, I did that. And you're like, damn, that really is a rivalry. When someone's injured later, and he goes, I'm the cause of that pain. Katie Nolan had grabbed Stephen Weber's thumb and held it like a hunting trophy in front of all of America.

Like a predator. Truly. He said it was a god thumb, so I just wanted it to get the respect it deserved. She did the spine of Stephen Weber. Whoever above her and a tree. So no one will ever take that away from you. That's right. But I want to set the scene because you guys are at home.

You guys know what happens. You guys are watching the Stone Cold Sober. You guys are... Yeah, sure. Yeah. Stoned cold sober. Oh, there you go. I didn't realize the word play was there.

And so you press play and you guys are... I press play, watch it live. What are you guys watching for as Katie Nolan's face appears right next to Lisa and Walter? from the parent trap in Abbott Elementary and Mo Rocca from CBS this morning and The Daily Show and yeah, other things that involve

guys wearing bow ties. Boatine enthusiast. Your mentality is what? Watching it? Yeah. I mainly wanted to remember because I didn't remember anything. I remembered there was one block so between a commercial and a commercial

where I got like nothing. Were at all the questions I remember going, what are these? I don't know any of these where I just felt like they were speaking a different language and then I think I got one right at the before the commercial like right at the end and then was like Jesus but what's crazy is watching obviously we we're all witnesses you know that's what that's what but when she was taping it was it's interesting to watch somebody rewatch it and kind of know what happened but not in what order because we're like

she's saying she knew there was a block and there was a block but she was watching and she was like, I think this is the block where I don't get anything right. And then it cuts to the primary coverage. Like, that, okay. Two questions in, David Murr's up in our . Good evening. We're coming back on the air because ABC News is now projecting that Donald Trump will win the New Hampshire Republican primary based on our analysis.

I remember watching this. Mewer. How do we say his name? David Mure. He's been around for so long and I still am like, Mour. Mure. I remember taking my remote. Because they cut in with breaking news coverage of the New Hampshire.

Now, if you're watching live, primaries. Katie got a notification that up in Boston they had cut a little earlier. So she was like, oh, shit, they cut to primaries. And I was like, no, no, they haven't cut here. So maybe we're safe. And then two minutes later, they cut. And we're like, is this it? Is the episode done?

Is this the Heidi game of Celebrity Jeopardy's? Yeah, it was about to go, it was during commercial break. So we knew when it came back, it was going to go to Katie. who she's playing for, kind of a little, you know, banter with Ken. But before that, in that block where she thought she missed anything, she actually did fucking awesome in the first block. I don't remember her doing as well, and she doesn't remember her either doing as well. I was like, well, I was actually doing okay.

And at one point, I'm like, at the couch, like I had never seen it. I was like, look at that. Look at you, a little scientist. We should remind everybody that the way this begins, it has me marveling at Katie Nolan's thumb. College level history courses for 200. Vassar offers Cold War America, a history course from 1945 until the fall of this European landmark in 1989. Katie.

What is the Berlin Wall? Yes, it is. Damn, you're good on that buzzer girl. I practiced. We'll come back with more Celebrity Jeopardy right after this. You'll get it, though. It'll come around. She's a fickle mistress.

My favorite. That was my favorite. That legitimately got a big pop out of me in the room. I don't remember. when you're filming it, that they keep the first thing you say before they go to break. So I just was making small talk

with my new friend Lisa Ann, not the porn star. Got a lot of tweets about that, which I was like, guys... Many are saying. Make sure the joke wasn't already made before you make it for the 50th time. But anyway...

But that was the biggest pop I got because that made me... That was the most Katie thing I saw. I just wanted her to feel better about it. Because she's being nice to someone while doing funny. So it teaches me to be nice to my opponent. Mission accomplished. You were also,

though holding your hands in a different way. You had your hands down, like Muhammad Ali, actually, like would lower his hands, like, confident. And so I'm thinking, buzzer technique. I read a book. And by the way. Somebody called me out on it.

Yeah. Somebody said, you can tell she read, I think it's called, like, the technique of the buzzer or the buzzer of the... I forget. I got it on my Kindle, and whenever I buy something on a Kindle, I don't see the cover. I forget what it's called. So I apologize, but it was written by one of the... Like a Jeopardy Champion guy. And it says that after studying...

He made like a makeshift buzzer of some sort and found a way to study it and found that the best way is to minimize the amount of muscles that go between not touching the button and touching the button. So that you aren't like having to move your arm and activate a whole series of motions. A kinetic chain, if you will. You're just pulling. You pull your thumb back on the button. So are you, your arms are straight? You hold one arm. I mean, I'm bending so that you can see.

This is definitely a graphic animated gift that someone's going to make something out of it. you're holding the arm, whatever arm you feel more comfortable holding the clicker in, and then you're just one motion. Can you explain it to me in self-defense teacher tone? All right, so what you're going to do, I've got it here. I'm holding its weight here. Yeah, there it is. Now if I pull this down, bam.

Bam, bam. I'm buzzing in. I love that. I let go on self-defense teacher. Turn out of ten. Always turns into Emerald. Oh, no. Well, we do that with our dog right.

We lay in there with the dog. When she used to wear like her little vest instead of a collar when we had her on like a little harness and he would have to put it on her to take her for a walk, he would always talk about it like he was suiting her up to jump out of a plane. He was like, all right, now this here is your shoe once you jump. But we also do self-defense mechanism, self-defense teacher with Myrtle where I'll have my hand around it. And I go, now see my hand is free right here. You're going to grab this hand and you're going to bend it over, choking the dog. So you nailed it with the bugger technique. So.

With cuddles. I was extraordinarily. optimistic after seeing that that's how that commercial break was entered, because shortly thereafter, we get to this. Uh-oh. Lissanne. What is The Handmaid's Tale? You got it.

Mo. Who is Willa Cather? Good for 500. Liseanne. Who is Edvard Munch? Good for 500. Mo. What is Paris?

That's the capital. Lysan. Who is Melville? Yes. Lisean. What is Dune? Right. Lysan.

What is Dunkirk? Right again. Rodrigo Prieto was behind the lens for Greta Gerwig's Barbie. and this 2023 Martin Scorsese drama. Katie. What is Killers of the Flower Moon? Yes, that is correct. Apparently none of you had the four hours

to see Killers at the Flower Moon. So a whole segment basically has passed, Dan, in which Katie has not buzzed in. Got one answer. That was a whole run. Yes. And so Dan Soder in the crowd is what? Well, I've realized I'm outnumbered.

I am with. Rebecca Feph, her manager and friend. And we are hanging out. We're the support staff. We're there. And then around us is a group that's there with Lisa Ann. And Maraca's husband is on the end of the aisle with us. It's us three.

And then everyone around us is there with Lisa Ann. So when Lisa Ann starts going on this run a little bit, much like in sports fandom, when the other team's fans start getting a little rowdy, you start getting a little rowdy. And the question, the daily double comes. Yes. After this run. Yep. Not only does the daily double come, but I want to make this perfectly clear.

It's a, I know it's a geography, because it's in the category was things that rhyme with Katie. And the second, I saw that the double, that the daily double was geography. I reacted. And Katie's the only other person in the world that saw this reaction. I reacted the same way I did when we went to the 49ers chief Super Bowl. and Fred Warner gave Patrick Mahomes' first interception of the postseason where I stood up and went, that's what the fuck I'm talking about.

And when I saw it was geography, I went, let's fucking go. It's what you are if you reside in the small emirate nestled between Iraq and Saudi Arabia. What is Kuwaiti? You would be Kuwaiti, yes, and you're in second place. And then she got the Daily Double and I reacted too hard. I went too hard in the pain. I was like, let's go. You heard her say Kuwaiti.

Yeah. I knew I just lost your shit. The second I knew she was going to get the daily double, I was so f***-hyped, and they did not like that. You can tell with just, from the energy, they did not like the fact that their friend's opponent, husband, whoever I am, is being,

I showed up with a big K painted on my chest and started doing that kind of shit. Like, I got into it. Because I knew how important this was to Katie. I knew she was sick. I knew her thumb was dinged up. Okay? I'm over there in my ball gown with my diamonds on and my lace gloves clapping.

Every time she gets punched, I was starting to get rowdy. And then I had to do at a commercial break through a little damage control. Because it was pretty obvious that I was like... What is damage control? Hey, guys, how nerve-wracking is this? It's legitimately small talk. Just making the most transparently... Dan's very good at small talk.

Forced small talk. Get stuck in an elevator with this guy. He can seem like he's interested without seeming too interested. Has it been 10 minutes or 40? We don't know. We've been talking about small talk. I wanted to bring it together because I did feel like I overreacted. The tension ratchets up.

And there's this one moment in double jeopardy where you objected to. Yes, because it's not a lander. And I did too. Let's fucking watch this shit. I still think it's erroneous. Wacky fed obituaries for 600. Not mobituaries. Here we go.

Funeral services for this line dance will be held on the nearest cruise ship. Featuring a special performance by Los Del Rio. Katie. Oh, no, line dance. Oh, um, okay, sorry. Time's up, I'm afraid. Lisa Ann. What is the electric slide?

Also incorrect. That's the Macarena. That's the Macarena. Los Del Rio gave us the macarena. That's what I thought, but that's not a line dance. You know what's so funny is that is absolutely the corner talking to the judge after a pay eye, where he goes, I wasn't holding.

Like, you can see on the can. cameras when they're like talking to the line judge i wasn't grabbing the jersey if i can describe it live um and i don't think this is going to make any sense but when you're hearing a clue and it's live it maybe it maybe it's my 80d but you really just hear a couple words and you try to take those words and make it into something and i heard los del rio right that's what yeah and i knew that's the macrana it was stupid i shouldn't have gone back to line dance i should have just said it because either way i was going to lose the money i'd already buzzed it i should have just said it and i should have just said it I think something in my brain was like,

oh, you're going to look real stupid. If you say the macarena is a line dance, everyone's going to laugh at you. So line dance itself. Line dance made me go, because Los Del Rio, I was like macarena. Yeah. And then I went, oh, shoot, line dance.

Did they have another song? And instead of that, I should have just said, Macarena, but I didn't. We are playing this under protest. Yeah. Line dance, just according to dictionary.com, or the Oxford languages here, a country and western dance

in which dancers line up in a row without partners and follow a choreographed pattern of steps to music There's an erroneous choreographed pattern of steps to music Somebody argued to me that when you do the Hey, macarena and you jump and turn That that makes it a line dance

And I get it, I could see that Again, the fault was my own I should have just said macarena I clearly knew it and I clearly second guest You know it's crazy? When you just did that It fired me up to do the macarena I don't know why

I'm like Just go through it right there? And when you just, when you like did it, you go, and then you put your hands on your head. And then you go, uh, uh, I was like, dude, I don't know why. No wonder that thing caught on. It's like smelling gas at a gas station. You're like, what is that? What do you know about that?

I used to know about it. Dan has no sense of smell. Sorry, go ahead. She acts for rubbing in my face because I'm disabled. Oh, that's right. It's not disabled. I am disabled. If you lose a sense.

I guess technically, yes. Wait, so what we're saying is that gas being a thing, one would huff for Dan Soder is a Soder Fact. Now, she thinks it is. He speaks on things he doesn't know. I know what gas smells like. No, you don't. I had a sense of smell.

You act like I've never had a sense of smell. I've had a sense of smell up until I was like... 12? No, like 30. I don't know. I don't trust that. He says that, but I don't trust it. I truly think COVID knocked it completely up.

You said it was smoking. That was why it was smoking. Because he used to smoke and then breathe it out his nose. Which is... It's a fucking badass. Sorry, I'm a fucking bad. Insane. Also, started smoking at an age that'll make you gasp. What, what?

12. Yeah. Still playing with action figures. Hell yeah. And smoke. I got to say, so fun. That's pretty badass. The joke from your special that I found very funny was that he would take a break from his action figures and smoke. Yeah, I got to figure out what's going on. I love it. I love smoking cigarettes.

Please make a non-cancer causing. Yeah, make them good again. And then I'll be right back, baby. Maybe I'll be right back. We go to Triple Jeopardy. We do. We do. As one does.

And the category, I want to be inside of my head for a second here. Sure. Because when this category, blank and blank gets revealed. Yeah, like, dude. I'm thinking to myself. Word category. Anybody who's watched, Pablo Tori finds out, knows that Dan Soder has declared Katie an amazing word category player.

She is. And I'm like, she's going to nail this. And so here's how that went. Let's go with blank and blank for 1,200. Answer there. Now it's a chance for you, Katie, and you'll be wagering from the lead.

How much will it be? I'm going to wager $3,000. Okay. 3,000, here's your clue. Blank and blank. Used together, these words are synonymous with intrigue and secrecy,

and they sound much cooler than poncho and knife. What is cloak and? dagger. You got it. You extend your lead. Great. Great stuff. Yeah, what was your thought process as you're trying to clearly like taking a beat to figure out how

much money am I wagering on this? Nothing. As I'm doing the, I'm gonna wager. My brain's just going 7.3, 4, 5, 16. All of it. None of it. None of it? Zero. I want a zero daily double. I would like to say that I was going,

carry the one and if I do this then I can I don't... You're just... I'm not strategic. Doing the back in your brain. I would like the lesson from this all to be that the least strategic person on earth is me and I wish I had more of that in me so that I could then

do things like I don't know, figure out what I should wager in situations like this or in Final Jeopardy. But instead it was just like what am I comfortable losing I guess? What is like I won't be mad at myself if I get this wrong? So I didn't want to do like 10. I didn't want to do all of it because I knew, if you remember, my first daily double was

Puse, I think, and I got that wrong. Like, there have been daily doubles that I think I'm going to get right and I get them wrong. So I didn't want to like wager. What's wrong? No, I was asking, was there a like triple jeopardy of the semifinals? You got all three daily doubles. You did a true daily double. You did five and then you did five. Was there any, obviously the difference is you were coming from behind in the semifinals. But now you've got the lead. Did that change the betting strategy that much? The easiest daily double bet I made was my all-in, which you would never think.

But I was so far behind and I needed it so bad that I was like all of it. This is my only chance to catch up. This time when you're in the lead, you're like, if I go all of it, I go to the back of the room if I miss it. And if I don't do enough, which I then later found out I didn't. So I don't like that part. I don't like where it's up to me. It's the reverse Kyle Shanahan.

Katie Nolan with a lead. Yeah. I don't like it. In her own head, the opposite of 49ers coach, Kyle Shanahan. Yeah. Because you don't want to squander your lead. Right. But you could, I could have pulled way ahead, but instead I was like, I don't know.

And so things tighten. Yeah. Mo Rocca, Nails his own daily double. He goes all in. He went all in. Unapologetic. He said he wanted to make it a good game, which you did. Well, I want this to be exciting for people.

Mo, do it. I'm going to, I'm going to do it all. Whoa. I'm playing with the charity's money and I feel really irresponsible, but go bigger, go home or get shunned by society. You're doing this for the people? Yes. All right, for the viewers out there. Here's your clue, Mo and I'm Just Ken.

In 2023, this documentarian released his latest film, a four-hour series examining the rich history of the American Buffalo. Who is Ken Burns? That is correct, yeah. And you just put the evening. Wow. $21,100 for Mo Rocca. God bless he did. I love the 90s, too.

19,500 for Katie Nolan. Lisa Ann Walters, 13,800. Headed into Final Jeopardy, and you know how this works. Before the first commercial break, they reveal the category, and this is what they said. All three of you with very,

very respectable scores, but it's going to come down to this. Here's the category you'll be making your wagers on, folks. Oh, God. Literary cliches. The clue is coming their way in just a moment. We'll be right back. Words. Words.

Words. And I stood up in my living room, as aforementioned, knowing that this is the mediest fastball category. I looked over it, Dan, in the audience, because I was like, all of it? And he was like, all of it. So I was like, okay, let's do it. Katie, you had nailed animal idioms. I know.

You are, no one has been, I don't want to rub it in. We should just play Final Jeopardy. Yeah, go ahead. We are about to crown our Celebrity Jeopardy champion and give away $1 million to their charity. The category's literary cliches. Let's reveal the clue. Many mystery fans blame The Door,

a 1930 Mary Roberts Reinhart novel in which a servant kills a nurse for this four-word cliche. 30 seconds, players, good luck. Lisa and Walter will begin with you in third place, but with an impressive $13,800. Thank you. What four-word phrase did you write down?

I love this. The butler did it. That is correct. I apologize. So obviously, I didn't get a right. But wait, I love this. The butler did it. Lisa, Ann, you're going to add to that score.

What did you wager? Almost everything. Wow. $27,500. And for the moment, you're in the lead. Katie Nolan had second place with 19,500. I love it. Did she know the Butler did it?

No. The doctor is in. I'm afraid not. Half credit? Half credit. Half credit. So we're not going to be able to accept that. Oh, you wagered everything. Dropping you down to zero.

Big wager. Big wager, Katie. That's my favorite. That's one of those Katie moments of the whole time. You know the Butler did it? He did it? I'm so sorry. He did not.

He wagered $20,000, knocking him down to $11,100. That eruption that you heard, not from Lisa, but from the crowd, was exactly like, remember that third and 14 when the chiefs picked it up against the Niners, and everyone around you stood up and clapped? I was like, like, I was just like, oh, yay. The butler did it. Speaking of which, I'm sorry to. Has never just, I never would have guessed it.

I didn't get that either. For some reason, I was focused on the nurse part of it. And I went full peanuts because the doctor is in. It's from the peanuts. Lucy's sign. But I couldn't think, I was like, four words, nurse. For some reason, I did not focus on the word servant. And I think that's because I don't like to use terms like that.

Oh, my God. You'll never have a Kelloggler as a servant, you know? I think of them as my contemporary. Donald Trump. Who is going to scrub your toilets? No, but it's, so I just, it didn't. And then people were pointing out to me that, like, after the Malcolm Butler

Interception in the end zone, there was merch that said Butler did it, and I'm like, I didn't even, it didn't even... That's also an obscure, like... Nothing. Not to me. It shouldn't be to me,

but I did that never... Right. You know, there's something that you just... And now I bet I'm gonna see that phrase everywhere. Because it's just never really registered with me, and now it's gonna be the only thing I see.

I'm gonna come home and turn on a black light and all over our walls is gonna say the Butler did it. The Butler did it. I'm like, oh, I will be murdered and it will be the butler who did it. It'll just some, this is all going to be part of an arc. A guy delivering you room service is going to give you PTSD.

Yeah, it's a lot. Just the psychology of you've just lost and your emotional temperature goes to where? Honestly, and I don't want to just sound like I'm saying this. Honestly, I think if it had been Mo, I would have been like more upset. Mo upset? Lisa Ann was just so sweet. And she was really smart and she played the game really well. She was super stark to win.

The look on her face when she won. She almost started crying. She did. She cried. Yeah, she like had tears. The way she like gasped and was like, ha, ha, ha, I'm in the lead for now. She did not think at all that she was going to win. And so when she did, I was shocked that Mo got it wrong.

And I just was, I was really happy for her. She multiple times was like, my mom was such a big job. Champion and that clue I knew because of my mom. It really was a moment for her. And she was very sweet and just so excited about it. It was, that was fun to watch. And I'm also shocked. I was mad and very...

Yeah, I have you as like the Dallas Cowboys fan who's punching his television. Yeah, I don't get that angry. I get like, when people I love Luz, there's, it's different than cheering a team you love. because when you're cheering a team you love, there's frustration, but there's a distance because you don't know that team. You don't know those people. You just cheer them on.

When it's someone you love, there's a connection, so there's an immediate sadness, followed by an anger, and then back to sad. It's a sad sandwich. You just got, the bread is sad in the middle, the meat is angry. And you're like, damn it,

but then a swell of pride. Give me a sight of pride. Because I was just like, and the first thing I said to her, I was like, you did so f***. Yeah, what's the post? game like how do you when do you guys get to it was honestly very i felt the same not exactly the same but i felt pretty close to how i felt after she had won the semifinals right was i was just like

i kept trying to tell katy like look how cool this is look how cool you are you just did so fucking awesome and you almost want it you missed one big question that cost you the game but you were fucking in it and you were in it to the end and that was i was just very like and still am we were watching last night. I was like, this is so cool. I'm so proudy. I kept like hitting her and high-fiving. Like I wasn't there. Because we love Jeopardy. We watch Jeopardy. It's a thing that we, that through the pandemic we got into, certain characters, we just RIP Trebek, you know, not liking Jennings as the host and loving them now as the host, getting to meet them, all that stuff. Katie's arc on the show, beautiful run. And something that it was like one of those things

where just as her, you know, fiance, I'm just like, dude, this is so fucking cool. And I'm so proud of her. And the way she busted her ass, like, to learn before the finals. It was just awesome. And it was like,

we learned it was Mo Rocca, and it was kind of like, oh, shit. When I found out, I was like, okay. Yeah, when we were like, nothing against Louisiana Walters, we were like, you were excited, but when we both found out it was Mo Rocca,

it was like, you're fighting, you're fighting Tyson. I should say, when I got admitted into Harvard University, yeah. I went to the admitted students gathering and the person who spoke was fucking Mo Rocca. Really?

Yes. Oh, really? He was the literal vision of like, the smart guy. Yeah. He's like stereotypical smart man. Truly. That's why Katie staying in it and doing as well as she did? I was like, come on.

Oh, it was like. Bob, you're unbelievable. She's just the best. I'm the most bummed that I didn't understand Final Jeopardy wagering so I could have gotten more money for the Association for Women in Sports Media because I think $100,000 for them is going to be a lot of money. They are, I didn't want to say this on TV even though they told me to. The charity has been since the pandemic.

I know a lot of businesses have been struggling. They took a real hit from, you know, campuses going online and all that. And they have been financially struggling. So I think that like this money can really, really help. And if you're listening to this and it matters to you as well, you can also donate because I think they'll take any money they can get. But I do wish that I had gotten just a little bit more money for them. And instead, I was trying to get them the million and ended up getting them because I went all in less than that.

But what are you going to do? I think you did a really good job of explaining to America what his organization was in a real way. And also, I think you persuaded everyone in America that it's a worthwhile cause except for Christopher Maloney. Yeah, he still thinks it's dumb. Yeah, he still fucking hates your guts. Damn, Stapler's out there on the streets. I still believe in Lyme disease for him. Tick that box, you know what I'm saying?

Mm. So, you know, we did it. We did Jeopardy. It happened. And I think this sets me up for a nice redemption arc. Yeah. Also, Poach. I still take issue with Poach not being correct.

Hey, maniacs. Should I boil my lobster or do this to it in a basket, which I've heard gets the meat mortenda. Katie. What is Poach? Sorry, no. What is steam? Steam, that's the better fortile word.

The one syllable... It was best word of words. It was five-letter words. And it said it's a way to cook lobster that makes it more juicy. And I said, P-O-A-C-H poach. And the answer was steam. I'm also just interested by like how people reach out to you. Okay, so let me say the hardest part was leading up to it.

I saw a lot of people, one of them is bookmarked and I have to actually send this guy a Venmo today. I saw people say like, can't wait to watch Katie. and take it all tomorrow night. Like, I know Katie's going to win. Some guy said, I signed up for Hulu and have to pay because the week trial is up and I want to watch you win the final. And so I'm just like, I lose. You just want to say, like, don't do it. I lose.

But you can't because you sign a very big NDA. That's like, don't tell anybody anything. And so people just kept being like, can't wait to watch Katie. Don't want to kill it tonight. People, I'm going to try out of this glass, by the way, we're like, so what do you know asking me? And I'm like, I don't. I authentically don't. Katie has said nothing.

Yeah. And so it sucked watching people root for you when you know you lose. That's when I said the thing about athletes is like they get to at least experience it when it happens. They don't have to watch everybody watching it. Like I saw people throughout the episode be like, oh, she's got this in the bag now. I can go to bed or something. And I'm just like, uh, I don't. But afterwards, everybody has been very, very nice.

Everyone was like, you did a great job. I like that you went all in at the end. There have been a couple people that have been like, you should have wagered exactly this amount. That would have been the way that you would win if he got it wrong. And I'm just like, my brain doesn't work like that. My brain does not work like that. Also not helpful right now.

I know. Like I, it's like. Yeah, the wagering thing this morning was bonkers. I'll do that next time, I guess. Oh yeah, that situation I'll definitely be in it. Totally. I'll take this into account when this exact situation. Thanks for the numbers.

But everybody's been really, really nice. And which is good. I really did. I had so much fun. And I think I realized when we were filming the final that like, Jeopardy is a game that's very hard to replicate outside of literally Jeopardy. Like, even when we play it at home

and we have to set the rule of like, do you have to wait till he's done asking the question before you can say the answer? Or do you just like yell it out? The buzzer system is so complicated that there really is no, like, let's play Jeopardy at home. I've since learned that every Jeopardy clue ever and its answer, or question, I guess, is available.

They have like a website that keeps track of every episode of Jeopardy, what was asked, what was answered, all that, which is very cool and I use it all the time now. But it's very hard to do that. And so I'm like, this is an experience that I've wanted to be able to participate in that I'm only going to get to do these three times. So I might as well enjoy it, have fun doing it. Like, I got to play Jeopardy and it wasn't some party where somebody made up the answers

and had to. There's a guy right now cutting construction paper listening to this. He's cutting blue construction paper to do the things. He goes, well, that's what I was going to do this weekend for my birthday. It's still, like, you can do it, but you just don't have the technology to do the like, but it's just, I don't know. I really loved it. It was really fun. It was, I don't know.

In hindsight, it was cool because I guess a lot of people thought I was stupid. And now they don't. There were so many people that were like, I didn't know you were smart. I'm like, that's crazy. But okay, I've been talking down barrel for a lot. Most of my career, I think a lot of people assumed that things were written for me, which just then brings up a whole new bunch of frustration. Which leads me to a charity that I want you to know about.

W.S.M. Women in sports media. Not stupid. Very smart. Oftentimes write their own thing. Believe it or not. They let us do the typing and the talking. But no, it's just really fun. It was a really fun thing. I know it was make a wish. I know, as everyone has been pointing out to me in the internet, that Mina and Pablo would both beat me probably. I would like to say that what I found out, watching a wish, Katie Nolan play Celebrity Jeopardy is that she would have wiped the fucking floor with me. I don't know. Not no. I mean that. That's not just the thing that I'm saying. It was

really legitimately impressive. It was my sport. It was sports for me. My buddy Joe called me and he was watching at home and he was like, he had it paused. He was watching the semifinals and he called me. So when I was in Kansas City. He goes, I'm watching the semifinals with Katie. I think I could take her in Jeopardy. And I had to do this real moment where I go, Joe, I love you. You're hilarious. One of my favorite people.

Who is this? Joe Alexander. The guy that I did comedy with that he left, we're still friends. Joe Bo. Joseph Bo. But he, I was like, she'd kick the shit. I go, we watch Jeopardy every night. She would fuck floor you.

And then he went, man, all right. Yeah, because I'm watching it. And I'm like, dude, you just have no idea. I watched Jeopardy with her every night. She would smoke me. Like the amount of answers. He could do it too. The amount of answers that she would.

The amount of answers that she just has, and we're not talking about celebrity jeopardy questions, because obviously they soften, they nerf them a little bit. But like when we hit certain topics, dude, she's on top of it. She's very good. And then there's other topics where I'm just tap out. Yeah, but that's Jeopardy. Plays. I don't know what about.

Oh, composers? Classical composers. Would you get that? That was rough. Mo Rocco was on top of it, though. I got Tchaikovsky. You did? It's one, like, very famous, very popular.

There's certain subjects that we both know to guess one or the other. Ansel Adams with French. photography, Chikovsky with composers or... I know Chikovs. You keep saying that. I did know that one. I took dance history in college and Swan Lake is a ballet. You told me that it was a complete guess.

No, I didn't. You're lying. There's also in Jeopardy lore. There's, I forget what they're called. Pavlovs, which are like, if they say this Swedish physicist, those two words together should bring up a name for you. And people study those, which I think is really smart. Does this change how you will watch Jeopardy going forward?

The first, so, okay, one thing they don't tell you about Jeopardy is that your wrong answers or the ones you miss will haunt you forever. I was going to also ask that. What are you most haunted by? Appetite for destruction, not getting that in the semifinal, that hurt my feelings. One dance by Drake, not getting that in the semifinal hurt my feelings. And like, any time those things come up now, like if somebody plays that song, I'm like, ugh. Which isn't its fault. It's my fault.

but I'm just like, ew, turn this off. Like everything you got wrong or everything you didn't buzz in on but you had right, like those things are just gonna haunt you forever. When we first came back from the final, from losing the final, I think we took some time off at Jeopardy. I don't think we watched it for like a month.

Weeks? Yeah, we have a backed up DVR now because we didn't talk about it. We didn't like address it specifically like we're not gonna watch Jeopardy, but like because he loves me and as a sweetheart, it just didn't, we watched other stuff during dinner. And I think it was just we needed a break.

I needed a break from like, oh, here it is, the thing I just really wanted to win and I lost. Let's watch it again. But now we're back. We're back into watching it. And I still love it. You keep, you know, if you lose the Super Bowl, you keep ESPN off for a couple weeks.

Just for a couple. Yeah, you don't want to hear the... I don't want to see the parade coverage. Just trying not trying to see that stuff. But look, I think in general, culturally right now, we're in a place where it's not cool to take an L. So I'm proud to take my L.

Took a great L. And to say that I worked hard. I had fun. I think I did... I've seen a lot of people say that I've got a new fan. Unfortunately, I've nowhere to direct them to right now except this podcast.

I don't have any... Welcome. But I think... I'm proud of the way that I performed and I also feel like if I were to get another shot that I could go at it again. So I'm...

So you are formally calling out Lisa and Walters. No, no, I loved her. To come to Pablo Torre finds out... Do you're a real champion? You're a brable champion. Can I say something that happened after the taping that I thought was really cool,

which was Michael Davies pulled Katie aside while they were doing the post-game interview with Lisa Ann. You know the trend right now in sports that got losers of football games of bowls or of championships. You see the one player stand out there in a school union and watch the trophy celebration. In someone else's confetti. That was Katie.

Katie was standing there. I wanted to listen to what she said. This is Kevin Durant, James Hart, Russell Westbrook, arm in arm watching the Miami Heat. Yeah, she was just sitting there with confetti coming down. watching it. She had her hands on her shoulder pads. You know, she had her mouthpiece in her helmet. And she was just sitting there watching.

And then, like, you know, equipment guys were coming up and patting her going, you had a good season and she's just sitting there watching. And this is a really cool thing where Michael Davies pulled Katie aside. And I was with, you know, Faf Katie and I were together. And he showed her she had the highest percentage of buzzes to completions. She had the highest shot field goal percentage of anyone in the tournament. producer of Jeopardy, Michael Davis. Michael Dave is the executive producer of Jeopardy.

Highest field goal percentage in the tournament. Book it. Pretty big. Big goddamn news to me. Thanks, honey. Yeah. The real, the real Gotham. Yeah, dude.

It was this one. No God, no masters. Just thumb. He's got some real talents, Michael. Yeah, man, that was, I'm very proud of you. It was fun. It's over. It was fun.

It was over. legitimately. Thank you. Proud of you and grateful for letting us chronicle your engagement through the lens of a network game show. Truly, though, thank you for letting me come here and talk about it. Because I think if all I had was like a Twitter to just like respond to people, it would be a mess. And being able to come here and kind of like decompress, it's really helpful. And, you know, thank you to everybody who rooted for me.

It was very encouraging, even though I knew what happened. It was nice to see. Yeah, I just got to say that that relationship makes me happy. It warms my heart to know that Katie Nolan and Dan Soder are there for each other like that, just as my production staff is for me. And I want to thank them here. Michael Antonucci, Ryan Cortez, Sam Daywig, Juan Galindo, Patrick Kim, Neely Loman, Rachel Miller-Howard, Ethan Shrier, Carl Scott, Matt Sullivan,

Chris Tuminello, and Juliet Warren. Studio Engineering by RG Systems, Post, Post, our theme song by John Bravo. We will talk to you next week.